17 Sep 2024 17:52:29
A few old faces from L4 are intimating that Trent will be leaving for RM.
Can the lack of movement on new contracts really be down to club incompetence, as some say, or is there more to it?
17 Sep 2024 18:35:38
Originally I suspected the players were waiting to see the ambition of the club after Klopp, or basically waiting to see if we fell off a cliff under Slot.
But when you hear Salah and Virgil coming out in public and stating they simply have had nothing off the club in terms of Contracts.
Then you just assume it’s another Hughes disaster and he’s once again, Failing at his job like he did in the window.
17 Sep 2024 19:01:16
LiverpoolFC8- I can't see how such a well run business could make such a grave error as to allow a 100m+ talent to leave due to incompetence.
Trent has been getting some stick about his defending, and has seen how well Jude is doing over there and has surely has his head turned.
Its a once in a lifetime opportunity for him and his family, and who could blame him? Mcmanan has been welcomed back to L4 after his move, so why not Trent?
17 Sep 2024 19:08:41
This should've been handled a year ago and wasn't. Poor from the club to allow this situation and arise, imo.
17 Sep 2024 19:20:39
Terrible if true. Can't believe they didn't sort this out before the summer window, worst case if he wasn't signing we could've sold him. amateur hour.
17 Sep 2024 20:01:39
Trent will leave.
17 Sep 2024 20:47:37
Trent is not a guaranteed fit for Real in my opinion. In L4 he is one of the top players, but Real do have a decent RB who defends really well.
Real do like a Bosman, and would pay more than us, but surely we have to do everything we can to get him signed up for life.
17 Sep 2024 21:55:40
A friends opinion -
I have zero trust in the owners on contracts. Wouldn't put is past them to think Trent is nailed on to sign, then to try and save 2 years increased wages by doing the deal early.
They didn't reward players with deals after the PL win. Had Salah, Mane, Firmino all expiring in the same year. Its the US attitude to players and contracts.
There's no ambition or drive left.
17 Sep 2024 22:20:19
Trent will stay.
Great assist from him today too, and a reminder to the fans who has written him off last season and wanted Bradley to replace him. I think his defending has been much better this season too.
17 Sep 2024 22:23:22
Comedy gold ihis.
17 Sep 2024 22:47:46
Any idea what a ‘ Mcmanan’ is?
18 Sep 2024 01:28:33
So, have I got this right? Trent’s contract is up next summer and people on here are hearing rumours that there has been no discussion with the club?
Amazing, next people will be saying that we need to buy a defensive midfielder too!
18 Sep 2024 02:10:25
If Trent decides to leave, the blame should be put on some of the fans too (I'm not suggesting you lot are one of them) . I'm sure you all still remember how much sticks some of them threw at him when he wasn't on form. And Trent is a really young bloke. Been in socmeds, blogs, and highly likely this site as well. I'm certain he is well aware of this.
I have a few mates who are one of them. Trent should be sold. His contract shouldn't be renewed, coz no clubs would want to pay the huge fee Liverpool might ask, its ok for him to leave for free. Suddenly now they started to say different things, like Trent is irreplaceable etc etc.
I get it that he wasnt playing well previously, and he seems to be playing well currently. But he was phenomenal, right? He was one of the players that made most of us fans finally able to see Liverpool lift the League title, right? And CL too, right?
Ok sorry for the mumbles. YNWA!
18 Sep 2024 02:40:23
"more to it" seems to be in the eye of the beholder and what you're predisposed to already believe has happened.
18 Sep 2024 05:20:10
Faithinworks-I just don't believe that business incompetence is the reason for any of whaever is going on.
18 Sep 2024 07:06:24
Like a football equivalent of the Jeremy Kyle show.
18 Sep 2024 08:02:02
I was over in Liverpool in Aug / Sept last year and was told by a friend who s connected with the club but I wouldn’t say is part of management decision making position but was told that TAA was taking Spanish lessons. I mentioned it when I got back home (Australia) and mentioned it again at the turn of the year as we headed into the Jan transfer window.
I have absolutely no idea if what I was told was / is true or not but I would say the person who told me usually has both oars in the water. Perhaps it could be the case that Trent didn’t want (last year) and doesn’t want (this year) to negotiate a new contract. Just idle speculation on my part.
18 Sep 2024 11:41:37
Trent's a great player but if he doesn't want to sign a new deal he doesn't have to. Equally, if he didn't want to leave this summer just gone because he knew running his contract down would be the best way to get a move to Madrid, that's also absolutely up to him. Hughes can't force him to stay or go on Liverpool's terms. Nobody even knows for a fact what is going on with this situation, yet a loud minority have absolutely hammered Hughes and Trent about it for months. Personally I'm just going to wait and see. If he stays, great. If he leaves, step forward Connor Bradley.
18 Sep 2024 12:36:39
Correct, MK. You're right mate but why wouldn't he want to sign a new contract? I do get it, the idea of RM must be exciting and all that but at the same time he hasn't been even offered a contract, that in itself is rediculous.
If he leaves on a free because of that then it's crazy. I wouldn't blame him for moving on, who can? none of us can but we can point the finger at the club because so far they've made no effort (that we know of) to keep him. It's different if 6 months ago he went and said 'yeah I want out' but we'd of heard about that. He's a local lad loyal to the club and yet here we are buggering about with his contract, it's rediculous.
Added on to this, if we lose Trent, Salah and VVD on frees then it'll be disastrous for the club, we'll suffer. I just get the impression these new fellas were brought in to decrease the expenditure. Probably way off, I know that but it certainly seems that way to me.
Where is the ambition? where's it gone? you keep your best players and sign new ones to improve positions or for cover. We've done bugger all and it'll show eventually.
I understand it's all speculation at this moment in time but it's still wrong what's gone on here.
18 Sep 2024 12:59:07
@Salah, you can only keep players if they want to stay.
18 Sep 2024 13:38:27
"Bon Voyage" and "Close the Door" on ye way out! is what Shanks would have told him and any other "Big Time Charlie" who does not want to play for LFC. He's not the First and he won't be the Last!
Any "Bosman" type transfer is only of benefit to the player's pocket and the Club he joins Coffers. The most patronising thing they portray is Denial and playing the Innocent Victim in it all, be a Man for once and either confirm/ deny the rumour which is only going to Snowball, personally I would not go as when Ancelotti goes (and there are murmurings) there the next Man Utd after Ferguson left them, ye future will be more Successful with the new "ARNE-celotti".
Bye, Bye Trent, LFC will still Survive "Thank God".
18 Sep 2024 14:08:51
If Trent wants to leave then drop him to the bench and concentrate with Bradley, no point flogging a dead horse. If he leaves on a free he’ll be another Micheal Owen for me.
18 Sep 2024 14:10:32
WDW, I agree mate. But why would he want to stay? He's not even been given an option to stay which is why I'm saying what I'm saying mate.
18 Sep 2024 14:33:00
Can’t see Trent leaving on a free as a local lad. Surely worst case he will sign a short term deal with a fair release clause so the club can get some money for him. I am starting to think he is on the way though. If he wanted to stay it would have been done by now - simple what do you want and club pay it conversation would have happened.
{Ed002's Note - I am afraid it doesn't work like that.}
18 Sep 2024 14:35:46
why wouldn't he want to sign
he's young and has options
He's entering his prime years and may want to experience another culture while he can still play at a high level
He's won everything at Liverpool
New manager come in and may want to assess himself what the next 2-3 seasons may be like
He could move to warmer climate
There's a winter break in spain
His family may be keen on a new experience out of merseyside
If it is Real Madrid, he has a good friend there already
just something top of mind.
Not sure why people keep asking "where is the ambition" and the like.
I mean are you just going to keep on asking that until they've re-signed? It seems like a position you would take once we know the outcome not something to keep moaning about while it's getting sorted.
18 Sep 2024 15:48:35
This thread just gets better and better.
I wonder what brand of glue 007 has been sniffing.
18 Sep 2024 16:26:11
If the club hasn’t yet knocked on Trents door re contract, that’s poor if correct, yet Trent has an agent I imagine, so surely his agent would have contacted the club and discussed what is going on I would have thought.
18 Sep 2024 19:32:19
Can’t go on much longer though, he either buys into slots management and ideas for the future or he decides that he wants Real Madrid…. If it’s the latter and decides he’s walking out on a free he gets dropped to reserves right away and Bradley takes his spot, hope he doesn’t want to go, barring a little petulant behaviour when being subbed he's been superb for this club on and off the field, but if he has no future loyalty to Liverpool then I won’t have any support for him anywhere else. And why should he hold Bradley’s future back. Come on Trent it’s decision time.
18 Sep 2024 19:56:09
I actually agree Magico, sign a CB and play Bradley and Gomez at RB.
18 Sep 2024 20:20:47
@Salah, how do you know he hasn’t been given an option to stay? The club might have approached him or his agent to ‘test the waters’ and been told that the lad thinks it’s time to move on. I’m sure that informal conversations happen all the time. Point is we don’t know that he or his agent haven’t had (albeit informal) discussions with the club .
18 Sep 2024 21:12:46
My friend knows Trent’s dad. Not very close but knows him to chat to. He doesn’t live in Liverpool.
Even though I’m skeptical, my friend doesn’t even entertain the possibility that Trent will leave.
Gives me some reassurance, mind you my friend never entertains the idea that Liverpool ever face a tough game ?.
18 Sep 2024 21:34:13
What we do know is that the club has allowed its best 3 outfield players to all get within 6 months of being to walk for free. It’s incompetence at best.
18 Sep 2024 22:46:08
I personally think Trents time with Liverpool is coming to an and and I couldn't be happier.
Don't get me wrong I just feel he's served his purpose and is now hindering the development of a player I feel should already be playing in his place.
Bradley has the potential to be really special and should be playing way more than he currently is.
18 Sep 2024 23:51:33
If you think Bradley will ever be better than Trent your mad. We need to keep our best players it’s simple Trent is a special player they don’t come around too often and he is s local lad. He should be offered a blockbuster new contract and be given the captaincy once Virgil leaves. Of course common sense is quite a rare thing within the professional game. And was definitely not used in this situation along with Mo’s and Virgil’s. It does feel like penny pinching from the club rather than doing the right thing.
18 Sep 2024 22:29:24
Ed001 has always maintained that he's not the sort to just leave his boyhood club that he supports, maybe he just wants to be paid on par with the clubs high earners or seeing what it looks like with Slot in charge? He's a great player and it would be disappointing if he left on a free, but it's not like he's a 1 in a million generational talent. Over the years Robertson has been just as effective down the left side whilst possessing far less natural talent than Trent, and cost £8M from Hull. If he leaves, he'll even I'd all 3 of them leave, we'll replace them just as we have every time out big players have left. Hell Coutinho was 'irreplaceable', until he was replaced, and Suarez, and Torres, and Owen and Fowler and so on and so on. We'll be fine either way.
19 Sep 2024 10:26:09
If players leave there’s an opportunity to find other stars. Though I hope Trent, VVD and Salah stay for at least one more year. Would give the club more time to plan and for people like Hughes to get their act together.
19 Sep 2024 12:56:36
How about we wait and see?
20 Sep 2024 16:48:04
The owners will set annual targets, including for financial return, and will appoint people they expect to deliver on them. So while they’ll be hands off on the day to day decision making the flexibility around what we can do contractually will be limited. Partly by the owners overall value expectations, and partly by financial sustainability rules. They’ll also be looking at value in the market, and how cost effectively we can replace whoever goes.
The three players will be wanting massive deals. I’m not saying we can’t get something done and shouldn’t have the ambition, but we are constrained. I expect if the players are reasonable we can get two or three done, but if they want us to match Real Madrid or other offers it won’t happen. VVD is probably the most likely to stay, I think Trent is the most likely to go.