25 Mar 2025 15:31:21
I agree with you Davey. Trent's legacy will remain intact. His leaving is like one of those worst kept secret jobs! We are going to really miss him. There is no one around who could imitate or replace him. But I thought the same about Jurgen, ha ha.
We await Isak to announce he's leaving newcastle or have I already missed that?!
25 Mar 2025 16:18:45
Whilst I will be gutted to see Trent go this isn't going to be a suprise. Trent owes liverpool nothing and he has to make his decision on what's best for him. Better players have left in the past and we've moved onwards. Similar to the Gerrard situation when he nearly went to Chelsea because he wasn't offered a contract when he thought he should be. Maybe taking it for granted that a local lad would never leave. Just a pity on timings and a possible title which makes everything very difficult.
25 Mar 2025 16:19:17
you'll be waiting for ever then!
25 Mar 2025 16:57:31
Ed’s, I do wonder IF, the contract negotiations are all completed and all signed, Here’s my question, would a new tax year (April), have any bearing on the situation?
If all get a raise but it isn’t triggered until new financial year, then back dated to beginning of this season under “Bonus” on the budget (or any other way to offset the wage increase, loyalty bonus etc), is this a possibility Ed’s?
Just trying to think out side the box with little knowledge of the financials.
Hope it makes sense, I’m thick as **** at times lol.
{Ed001's Note - I doubt the tax year is relevant mate. For starters, neither Mo nor Virgil are being offered pay rises, so why not sort their contracts now?}
25 Mar 2025 17:07:53
How can you say Trent owes Liverpool nothing? that is absolutely shocking! He is a multi multi millionaire playing football for his boyhood club. The Club made him, he has been here since the age of 6. He is nothing without Liverpool.
25 Mar 2025 18:27:38
He’s given the club everything for the past 20 years @Kurt. Get a grip.
25 Mar 2025 19:07:47
Is there any chance that these rumours are untrue?
25 Mar 2025 18:49:09
Hi Kurt I respect your opinion. Trent is his own man, he has been paid the going rate and performed and won trophies for us as part of a team. His contract is up and he gets to choose where he would like to work, just like you and I would. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean he owes the club and the fans. Liverpool have made him what he is but he still has the right to decide his own future like anybody else. He could have been a multi millionaire in any other top flight team, that's just what footballballers get paid which I don't agree with.
25 Mar 2025 19:16:04
Good luck to TAA. I think he's making a mistake, not leaving, that's his call but going to Madrid, Its a hole of a place and there is no way Madrid will play the Trent way. He'll be expected to be a RB and that's not what he's good at. It'll be an adventure and an astonishing payday for the lad. Made for life!
Now, the more important and more exciting part of the whole story. I'm excited to see if Slot will go with Bradley and what that means for how we line up and play. Change is good and come October. I already forgot the name of our last RB. LMAO! Rob Neal Kelly Steve Nicol Phil Jones or something :-)
25 Mar 2025 19:17:41
I agree Kurt all this he owes the club nothing he has won everything here he was part of a team that won trophies but he was paid millions of pounds so was paid very well to do a job. But the club put years into making him the player he was for the years from when he joined. He has had this planned and all the nothing agreed yet is just because he does not want the backlash from the fans but for leaving for nothing he will not be remembered fondly just like Mcmanaman.
25 Mar 2025 19:22:28
Let’s be honest here, this has little to do with how Liverpool have handled the contract renewal. If he wanted to stay then he’d have signed already. It’s clear to me that he probably wants to go and has made that clear to the club. I don’t hold it against him as such but to leave your childhood club for free when you’d normally expect a significant fee for a player of his quality then that’s definitely a kick in the teeth for the fans and not the behaviour of someone who would probably see himself as a Liverpool legend. He’s more Owen than Gerrard.
25 Mar 2025 19:22:53
I think he actually owes the club a lot as well as Klopp for brining him through and nurturing his development.
That being said, I don’t think that’s a stick to beat him with.
It’s been a mutually successful relationship which has bought trophies and success to him and the club.
We move on though.
Over to you Liverpool (and the new recruitment team) to prove you can sign top players, I remain unconvinced but optimistic.
25 Mar 2025 19:51:36
Kurt you're talking nonsense. It's no secret I have no like of Trent but you're mistaken if Trent wouldn't have got a career at a smaller club like Everton.
25 Mar 2025 20:04:24
I say good luck to him genuinely, it should be a great life experience and place to play football for him.
J1970 is spot on in terms of how this has played out in the last twelve / eighteen months though. Once it gets to that stage and a contract is offered it’s the players decision not to sign, it’s not on the club .
Even if we’d tried to sell at that stage RM and Trent would have driven down the fee to derisory levels, or waited it out. We perhaps could have offered a deal two years ago, or a longer deal originally but it’s all ifs and buts now.
25 Mar 2025 20:50:32
Thanks God this TAA saga is finally coming to a conclusion! Let’s hope Trent finishes off the season in style and gets to land one more title before he leaves for pastures new.
Let’s all just have some perspective, the lad wanted to leave and is getting a nice sign on fee for his troubles. For me Trent is a good player but talk of a legacy is a bit steep, I don’t think Trent has done enough to hold a legacy, that’s not me being bitter but I just don’t see a lot of the hype in Trent, he is a good player who was part of a great team and I would be happy for him to remain but legacy talk I’m just not on board with.
25 Mar 2025 20:57:27
I hope he crashes like most of the rest who have left. Leaving for nothing is disgracefull. He loves himself not the club, hope he never plays for Liverpool again. Bradley should be back soon.
{Ed025's Note - thats not Trents fault Mark...look higher up the ladder mate..
25 Mar 2025 21:14:56
2 biggest clowns telling me to wind my neck in for saying trent owes the club a lot? are you his brother (agent) in disguise? how pathetic this world has become.
25 Mar 2025 21:24:37
That’s easy to say ed. Of course the club take plenty of the blame but if he really wanted to stay he would. He shouldn’t spout nonsense that he loves the club. How can he pass up the chance to win number 21 and become a true legend and be in Liverpool’s all time first 11.
He’s let down his legacy and has let down the supporters. It should mean more to win one more League and another European Cup than winning 10 at another club. He should have signed an extension with a reasonable buyout clause.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think thats down to him Mark, listen mate he is just an employee who is moving to another workplace and different environment, dont take it too personally the club and the team move on...its always been that way..
25 Mar 2025 21:50:59
We have both seen betters players leave our clubs than Trent but for me he should never leave on a free and then claim to love the club and the City. He can’t have it all his own way.
25 Mar 2025 23:16:59
Trent’s a really talented guy, very good player at his best.
Three or four years ago when he and Robbo were in their prime they redefined the fullback role for us where they became the main source of assists. We haven’t had a better attacking duo in the last twenty years even if defensively they’ve been lacking for parts of this season and last.
Part of that’s tactics, part of its been form and injuries. It’s a shame we didn’t get a fee to help the rebuild, but that’s how RM work and he may not have got the move without it.
I don’t put him in the same bracket as others who’ve left on frees before, I get why he’d go. But I wouldn’t say he’s quite the great either.
26 Mar 2025 01:54:57
@Kurt, genuine question. What does somebody who has been at the club for 20 years and who has contributed to the club winning multiple cups and a PL championship actually owe the club? I ask that in the context of the club agreeing to the terms of the contracts he has signed over the years. As has been said he is an employee of the club and he is entitled to agree a contract as an employee for another club if he wishes. He isn’t a slave . It’s normal to be disappointed and even saddened when a player leaves a club but the club will survive and may even get better, who knows.
26 Mar 2025 06:54:33
People who think Trent owes the club and should therefore stay etc are just short sighted in my opinion.
100% the club has helped make him who he is, but he is the one who has made it happen and put the effort in.
In anyone's job as they get experience and progress and get promotions, does that mean they aren't allowed to leave their job ever and have to stick with the same company? After all they wouldn't have learned all they did and got the promotions without the company. al absolute rubbish.
Also don't turn on a player and say he's rubbish and wish him unwell at another club - that's bitter and childish in my opinion.
I respect his decision, wish it was the opposite but will always be grateful for what he's done (that Barcelona corner in particular) .
For me the more concerning thing is that it was so much the harder decision to leave (in terms of fallout) and being from Liverpool and still going, kind of makes me nervous that allm isn't quite right at the club higher up. Equally I could be wrong and he wants a new challenge - to which I say fair enough, good luck and wish him well.
26 Mar 2025 07:04:37
Ed i get what you say about being an employee. But that's thinking logically whereas there's nothing logical about being a fan. We fans pay hundreds if not thousands a year (depending on how many kiddie fans are in this house) on glorified t-shirts, flights, hotels, tv packages and match tickets a year which is crazy yet when somerhing like this occurs were told to think like Mr Spock. Fans are right to feel aggrieved at how this has played out.
{Ed025's Note - i agree FM but lets not put all this on Trents back, he is moving on and wants to try something different and for me there is nothing wrong with that, the problem for me is that he is going for nothing when you should be getting a high fee for him to reinvest in a replacement, that is on the club mate..
26 Mar 2025 07:44:08
Agree edd025 but it’s on both Trent and the club that he’s leaving for free. He’s played a big part in going on a free, probably because his agent has told him this is what suits Madrid and in turn will give Trent a huge contract. I have no issues with him wanting to leave, especially if we win the league and he wants a new challen but to run a contract down as a local lad stinks .
{Ed025's Note - its just the way things are in this modern day football Ecogsi, there is no such thing as loyalty now mate its all about greed and the lust for money, him being a local lad is just a stick to beat him with for me..
26 Mar 2025 08:41:31
To be fair I'm not at all somebody who ever grumbles about Edwards and the like, but ed001 told us years ago that Trent was always ready to sign a contract if it had been put in front of him at any point before the real Madrid courtship began. Within the last few months he saw that we were messing around and not making him a priority, and then Madrid stepped in to make a case. So in a way it was on the club for assuming he would sign anyway and that we didn't have to worry about it.
26 Mar 2025 08:42:24
Grino as far as I remember macmanaman was never signing a contract and was common knowledge he was going to Madrid on a free, that doesn’t bother me there was honesty in that, Owen strung the club along forcing a cheap sale but Trent there’s been nothing, he’s a player who stated he wanted to be captain and stay at the club, for me it’s what stings.
26 Mar 2025 09:10:03
Messing around and not making him a priority? C'mon now, is this Love Island or something? A contract has been on the table since well before Xmas. Real probably told him last summer to run his contract down so they'd get him for a song, they were in no rush they had carvajal.
26 Mar 2025 09:28:52
Has a contract really been on the table since Christmas? I highly doubt that. From what VVD and Salah said, the club didn't even approach them until well into Jan. It would be safe to assume too that the same applied to Trent. The club dropped the ball here. They should have opened talks with them all much earlier, especially since they all were seemingly keen to sign extensions. If Trent had his sights on RM from the very beginning, he would have signed with them immediately in Jan when he was able to. If he had only done so now, just a mere three months until his current contract expires indicates that he was still keen to sign with us but something between Jan and March persuaded him otherwise.
26 Mar 2025 10:01:17
Firstly Drac i suppose we can't assume anything. I do seem to remember a contract offered last year. Secondly they've been in talks for months and months now with the 3 of them, that's different to offering a contract. You only offer a contract when both parties are even on the same planet in terms of what they want (for instance there were rumours of trent wanting 350k a week which "IF"true was never going to happen) . And on Trent not coming out publicly in Jan when the could have. does the last two dayays not show you why he didn't do that?
26 Mar 2025 11:06:25
Ed025, I 100% agree that it's about greed. I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who makes more in a week than most dual working families earn in a year.
{Ed025's Note - Yeah Stone its a different world now mate, the money these players get is obscene....and they still want more..
26 Mar 2025 13:47:23
I wish TAA well, I’m not that sad to see him go though. Very good player, but poor defender, his offensive abilities more than compensated for his defensive shortcomings. Over the years, it was obvious better teams targeted him, and the space he left when he forayed forward.
I trust in Slot, this saga has been going on since Slot joined so he and the recruitment staff have had a year to plan the rejigging of the team. A new high quality creative midfielder will help to offset the loss of TAAs input going forward.
From TAA perspective, it must be very exciting swopping Liverpool for Madrid, but the pressures will be immense. He certainly won’t get the understanding he gets at Anfield if he gets shredded and RM lose.
But if it was me, I’d jump as well. It’s a short career and I wouldn’t want any regrets like Roy Keane that he didn’t go abroad and test himself in a different league.
{Ed025's Note - i wish him well also D-day, but dont give me that old tosh about its only a short career for these top earners mate, they earn more in a year than most of us earn in a lifetime..
26 Mar 2025 14:32:12
He won't last 1 season as a starter at Madrid. As soon as the other teams start isolating him and picking off his glaring weaknesses the fans will turn on him and then he's ****ed.
26 Mar 2025 19:24:06
Whilst I agree the wages are obscene, it’s a bit lazy to say that correlates to anything related to duration of career. Maybe it could be argued that at a better club to get better treatment, but at best, most players careers, and earning power is in significant decline at the relatively young age of mid thirties, so yes Ed025, a footballers career at the top is relatively short, and even shorter if they decline prematurely due to loss of form or injury.
{Ed025's Note - im saying if they sign a contract for say 3 or 4 years D-day, an average prem player would receive around 6-8 million pound mate and thats without bonus,s and endorsements, thats enough to live a fantastic life and your kids and their kids would never have to work ever..
26 Mar 2025 19:46:57
Does that mean it’s a long career? TAA could be paid a vast wage at LFC, but he may think that now is his opportunity while he is at the peak of his powers, he may not get another opportunity if he passes now and RM sign another quality RB.
I’m struggling to see who you are linking wage to length of career, he probably has millions in the bank already, maybe you have some insight that his decision to move to Madrid is purely a financial one, have to admit I’ve seen no indication of that. Seems to me the lure of playing for RM is greater than that of his boyhood club, you might let us know if there is more to it.
26 Mar 2025 19:51:26
Take his passing away he’s not even an average defender. Wand of a right foot but terrible at doing the job he’s meant to do.
26 Mar 2025 20:38:12
Maybe the lad just wants a change of scenery and a different challenge. He may, for a long time, been happy at Liverpool and wanted to stay but people can, and do, change their minds. Good luck and best wishes for the future Trent.