23 May 2025 22:00:18
Can't remember who it was that asked me about Elliot on my last post about outgoings but this is what I've been told.
He doesn't want to leave and Slot doesn't want him to leave either. The problem is game time. Slot sees him as the perfect understudy to Salah, especially in the subtle change to the system Frimpong brings. He wants to play more and that can't be guaranteed, even tho he can cover other positions.
There is no shortage of suitors and a deal around the £60m mark (£45m + addons) is what we would be looking for, if he decides to leave.
23 May 2025 22:13:07
Elliot isn’t a winger or a midfielder he’s a number 10. Until people who run things understand that he’ll never make it.
23 May 2025 22:42:42
If we get Wirtz let him go. Money back into the kitty to add a CF or DM. Still skeptical but this might be our best transfer window in my lifetime.
23 May 2025 22:57:10
Well if Slot sees Elliot as an understudy to Salah, he'll play about 20 minutes all next season.
Klopp didn't rotate Salah and Slot generally rotates even less than Klopp did.
23 May 2025 23:39:32
I doubt he would use Elliot as a winger, never seems to play like one when he is played there. Just a change of role, plus the whole positional fluidity thing makes it not beyond the realms of possibility he can play there peg leg. Yet as SR says he won't get many more minutes than he did this year. I'm of the opinion he should go, its best for all parties because he deserves to be playing.
23 May 2025 23:56:36
Wouldn’t people rather keep Elliot and move on Jones? Elliot is the younger player and could still develop into a really good player. Jones has not really kicked on for me and slows attacks down, more inconsistent than Elliot as well, he’s also the older of the two.
{Ed078's Note - I'd keep Jones, though I know that's not a popular view.
24 May 2025 00:09:18
Not for Ed I think Elliot’s ceiling is higher given the same game time jones has been given.
{Ed078's Note - but Slot plays Jones more than Elliot.
24 May 2025 03:06:28
I think Slot favours Jones due to his positional flexible utility, whereas Elliot is a Number 10 due to his physical attributes and struggles elsewhere on the pitch.
Personally despite the above, I'd love him to stay and be part of the squad but if Slot isn't going to rotate very much, then I can understand him leaving.
24 May 2025 03:22:01
I think Slot sees something in Jones that he doesn’t quite see in Elliott.
{Ed025's Note - i dont know why WDW, it must be because hes a Scouser, because he is absolutely crap as a footballer mate..
24 May 2025 04:29:29
Keep jones all day. Has physicality and can press. Elliot can do neither. When you need a body to come on with 20 mins left or even start if someone is injured in the middle of the park Jones is a much better option.
24 May 2025 06:38:21
Elliot is no winger he can’t run! He won’t get much game time the club and himself know his career stagnate if he stays the lad wants to play and will only happen elsewhere.
24 May 2025 06:44:38
That’s not how read into it, for me it Looks like Elliot’s days are numbered, he wants to stay but has spoken with Slot and realised that he has to leave for the sake of his career.
24 May 2025 07:45:34
When we bought Elliot (and Carvalho) I did think it was a bit strange. We didn’t play with that type of player in the team. I assumed Klopp was maybe going to slightly change the system to accommodate the 10 type players we had acquired. This never happened and therefore…. the players are better off elsewhere.
Jones fits in to our system and is versatile, so I would rather keep him.
24 May 2025 07:52:02
The Fields, that seems pretty much word for word from what I read in twitter yesterday. probably accurate too.
24 May 2025 08:04:46
I forsee a raft of outgoings, generating over 200m.
CK - 30M
Gomez -35m
Tsimi - 15m
Elliott - 45m
Morton -15m
Endo - 20m
Doak - 23m
Diaz - 70m
Jota - 40m
Nunez -65m
over 350 there plus whatever the budget was - so i can belive Akira that another highly priced player is joining on top of Wirtz.
Some of the departing players squad place can be filled via the youth team, but it does mean that we will need to buy more also.
24 May 2025 08:33:36
Not sure why the clamour to get rid of Elliott or Jones tbh. Both are young, Elliotts only turned 22 last month. They are yet to get anywhere near peak age. there's plenty of games where you can play either and still be massively better than the other team. They love the club, are home grown, if they want to be part of our journey in any capacity I'd be more than happy to keep them around. It's not all about we can get X amount for this player to spend on that player. It's good to have players who love the club, will run through a brick wall for us and don't expect to be play in every game. there's still a chance both could be starters in a few years.
{Ed025's Note - yeah...maybe for Norwich or Ipswich..
24 May 2025 08:34:21
Jones a crap player? Blimey Ed025, Jones is a baller mate, quality. He’d be Everton’s best player by a distance.
{Ed025's Note - honest he aint RR, more of a decent Championship player for me mate who has dined out for years on a goal he scored in a cup game against us, if he wasn,t a scouser we wouldn,t be having this conversation..but thats just geography, reminds me of the late Ray Wilkins who forged a career out of passing sideways and backwards but never really effected many games, all just opinion i suppose but i think hes really poor and you do have some excellent players...but he is certainly not one of them..
24 May 2025 09:16:21
We’re not getting 20 mill for Endo.
24 May 2025 09:27:03
I think Jones is better than championship but not title challenging starting 11. I do agree that the scouse connection is keeping the wolf away from the door! I’m happy for the lad to be part of the squad because you need players who are happy to be bit part players and he can do that role and cover a few positions but as a regular starting option I’m just not in board.
24 May 2025 09:30:43
The problem is that in any team these days you can’t have passengers, we used to call them luxury players.
Defensively, Elliot is a passenger. The team can’t press effectively with Elliot on the pitch because he’s too weak in the tackle and has zero defensive position sense.
Elliot can be a decent squad player to come on late when we are camped in the opposition’s half and he doesn’t need to defend but as starter he leaves us wide open to the break time and time again.
If he wants to play he has to leave.
24 May 2025 09:36:55
Evertonians, in general, don't rate our players so its no surprise you don't rate our young fringe players ed25. Some of our fans expect superstars to come in and sit on the bench. My personal opinion is you need these kind of young players who love the club in and around the team. Whether they kick on enough to become starters who knows but they can definitely do a good job against most teams and won't kick up a fuss if they don't start every week.
{Ed025's Note - i do get that Kopite and yes as a player who wants no more and is happy to sit on the bench as a career then keep him, i get the impression he sees himself as more than that though mate...big mistake on his part..
24 May 2025 09:40:33
Just a note on Jones only getting games for us because he's a scouser, do you really think Slot or even Klopp are that sentimental? Slot and Klopp are both managers at the pinnicle of the game, if a player starts its through merit, not through sentiment.
24 May 2025 10:01:19
Agreed with you ed25 Jones is crap. Average at best, if he wasn't at Liverpool no-one would be saying sign him up. Lower level prem player at best. I'd be keeping Harvey instead of Jones alday long. People saying Harvey won't get minutes. Did he not score and assist last game? Salah is going to have to manage his game time even though he is a model professional in the bracket of Messi and Ronaldo. Give Harvey more time. We don't know what slott has in mind next season yet. Honestly believe Harvey will have a very big future and hope he manages it with us and we'd regret it if we sold him. Jones on the other hand nah. Should of been sold 2 or 3 seasons ago.
{Ed025's Note - im with you Magico, but as we always say its about opinions mate..
24 May 2025 10:06:17
Did curtis get player of the tournament in the Euro under 21s? What position did he play? He’s good player in various positions but doesn’t get the chance to play just one and get brilliant at it. Him Milner and Gomez have been godsends to the team over the years. Him and Gomez on the bench cover nearly all the outfield positions. Versatility his there biggest attribute keep them both.
24 May 2025 11:44:42
I’ll never forget Curtis goal in the FA cup when our kids beat Everton’s first team.
Absolutely world class.
{Ed025's Note - you cant live on one good shot every 10 years though Ron..
24 May 2025 14:55:27
We also aren’t getting £30 million for Kelleher. Seriously red tinted glasses with those valuations.
24 May 2025 15:19:12
Well he's worth over 20mill Irish mate. I think it's a fair valuation myself 30mill.