29 May 2025 12:55:49
Bryan Mbeumo under consideration should Isak be impossible. ?.
29 May 2025 13:11:37
Should add I’m not sure there’s any truth in this as he’s not really an out-and-out CF, just passing on as another rumour. Decent enough player but not sure he is what we need.
29 May 2025 13:13:06
Can't see that myself, to be honest. Where did you get that from Jr?
Given the versatility of the forwards we either have and are definitely not going anywhere this summer (in Mo and Cody - ignore the Bayern nonsense! ) I would strongly believe that we are after a specialist striker this summer. We hopefully have Wirtz who can cover all 4 forward roles, and Mbeumo plays in Salah's position, not up front.
I do, however, remember someone mentioning whether Salah could move to CF, but I don't understand why you'd take the world's best RW (well, in the top 3!) and move him to another positon?
29 May 2025 13:18:45
This is looking like ‘one of those windows’.
As Rafa would put it, I wanted a sofa and they bought me a lampshade.
From Isak and Wirtz to Gyokeres and Mbeumo.
Pitchforks ready!
29 May 2025 13:18:57
I have a couple of scout friends, one currently working for Sunderland and the other Newcastle. Just something one of them had heard over the weekend.
29 May 2025 13:32:40
Ron, I don't understand what you are saying? What makes you think that we aren't getting Wirtz? The transparent RM mouthpiece propaganda?
Don't buy the bollox!
29 May 2025 13:33:36
Are they washing cars, Jr?
29 May 2025 13:41:41
Not sure I get you Rigsby, but they are certainly not washing cars. ?.
29 May 2025 13:43:47
I don’t remember anyone from Liverpools management saying we are after Isak or Wirtz.
So why would we be disappointed if they don’t join?
29 May 2025 13:44:38
He is primarily a RW but can also play CF. The guy scored 20 goals with an xG of 12.3 making him the biggest xG overperformer in the PL. He also had 7 assists and is only 25. I would say he ticks most boxes so I don't think it is a horrendous shout.
That said I would still prefer us to sign a more recognised CF/ ST.
29 May 2025 13:55:54
I theorised Salah moving to cf.
Not for any othe reason but to save his legs and energy as he gets older while still enjoying his exceptional talent to both score and pass.
For the record - love Mbuemo. See a lot of similarities both playing style and career to Mane.
No idea if we will or should get him though.
29 May 2025 14:01:39
Zed - so we just believe some random names on a rumours page?
No disrespect to anyone but you pick your poison and no official word has come from anyone.
It’s the slow inevitability of it all. One week he’s all but signed he’s just on his holidays (sorry, I’m not having that) and the next week Madrid are trying to hijack it.
We know how this drama unfolds. He’ll go to Madrid, otherwise he would have signed for Liverpool last week.
29 May 2025 14:02:03
Agreed Shipley. Maybe under consideration due to his versatility.
29 May 2025 14:16:10
Rigsby means cub scouts I think.
29 May 2025 14:26:41
I'd be happy with Mbuemo, I think he'd be a good addition.
29 May 2025 14:30:53
My son is doing some clever maths with the xG data, I might come back with more details about Mbeumo.
29 May 2025 15:23:56
Some posters have stated only recently they only want World Class Players signed, the more the better everyone would say, and who could argue, but what a waste if that was LFCs transfer policy today and in the past as it means we may never of signed or seen: Keegan, Rush, Dalglish, Souness, Torres, Suarez and Salah and many many more.
Some posters want the Moon? I am sorry to say they haven't made ladders long enough yet!
29 May 2025 16:01:23
Apologies I missed the Scout pun, snowed under at work and had a sense of humour failure ?.
29 May 2025 16:05:18
1jj seriously? do you honestly think LFC are going to divulge their current transfer targets to the whole footballing world to know about!
Liverpool Football Club will only reveal a signing when all the transfer paperwork is legally signed on the dotted line,
good custom and practice my old boy!
29 May 2025 16:20:35
The xG Data was also used on a certain Darwin Nunez one would suspect
The Data when the player actually leaves LFC is much more important than the Data on him when he arrives.
Players don't play on laptops, calculators, or an abacus etc they all play on Grass/ Artificial Pitches, always have done.
29 May 2025 17:14:50
"Zed - so we just believe some random names on a rumours page? " - Ron, no but I am believing the swell of reports coming from lots of different site that he is coming.
The RM gaslighting has just started up in the last 24 hours and all the reports are originating from RM sympathetic sites, just like the Bayern rumours about Gakpo have just sprung up too.
Its part of the dance!
As you say, each to their own, but I am very much choosing to stay excited about our first 3 signings, who I expect will be confirmed in the next few days, and stay excited about who else will join them.
29 May 2025 17:18:02
007 - with respect, scouts do talk to each other. My friend who works at Newcastle (also watching Mbeumo) mentioned that LFC had a rep there too, presumably for the same player. Nothing to do with LFC disclosing their transfer targets, which I didn’t state. I said he was under consideration, and the rest is just common sense. We are also still trying to sign Isak if possible, but that’s been widely known for an age. Hope that clarifies.
29 May 2025 17:38:19
What you want is a player who scores often but either meets or is under is xg (if using that metric) if someone over performs xg it suggests he's having a 'lucky' season and will likely score less next year.
29 May 2025 17:49:36
To all those playing down the Madrid links, please ask yourself why he hasn’t signed a multi-million pound contract to Liverpool yet?
Because he’s on his holidays?
Sorry that’s pure fantasy.
He wouldn’t interrupt a holiday to sign a huge contract? Do me a favour.
His agent is using us to flush out interest from other teams and it seems Madrid have obliged.
Otherwise, he’d have signed already. It’s Caicedo all over again.
29 May 2025 18:12:23
Pipe down Ron, let’s see you come and eat a large slice of humble pie when he signs…. You won’t of course!
29 May 2025 18:25:33
Nunez came from Benifica not a major league like EPL. Mbeumo is a known name in EPL. He is fast, strong and productive as a forward. Dusan Vlahosic, Ekitike, Sesko etc are yet to prove they can succeed in EPL. Let us hope the rumours are true. I wish we have Salah and Mbeumo or Bowen in LFC attack. Sounds like a mirage but could be dangerous to other teams.
29 May 2025 18:39:42
I like Wirtz but I prefer us buying a good player for a moderate fee such as Salah and Suarez to any big deal. If he decided not to sign for LFC like Zubimendi and Caicedo. We can still spend the big money on other big players remember Frankfurt got Ekitike for just $ or €19m.
29 May 2025 19:04:58
@Nevada There are always different ways to interpret the stats (lies, damn lies and statistics and all) but over performing could also be seen as clinical. I've asked my son to look at the stats for Mbeumo and asked him for some comparisons with Nunez. I fully expect Nunez to be under so perhaps lots of people will want to buy him :)
29 May 2025 19:34:41
I would love mbeumo. Think he's what the squad needs. A back up for mo/ rotation and can fill in at cf. if required.
If we are loosing nunez and elliot
Possible offers for Diaz or diogo. Then its a great addition.
I would still like one more if we did loose and 3rd player from the forwards/ attack minded options.
Wirtz has so much ability and skills I can't wait for the new season to see what way we set up if we can get that deal over the line. With the new "more" attacking wingback options. it sounds like we are in for a great ride ?.
29 May 2025 19:53:00
Hello Jr_1977, my "Sincerest Apologies" I have mistakenly taken the opposite view? but now fully interpret your correct meaning.
I would "happily" think of your 1977 reference as our finest ever European Cup Win, as it was the first of six gold stars, I was most fortunate to witness the event, hopefully Arne can achieve 7 gold stars in the seasons to come.
Rome 1977 and Istanbul 2005 were both on the same day 25 May, next years European Cup Final is an incentive for "DOM"-ination and Kerkez hopefully, it's in the Ferenc Puskas Stadium, Budapest 30 May 2026.
29 May 2025 20:57:37
A tenner says he signs for us ron.
29 May 2025 21:13:44
Not a betting man but I doubt it. Otherwise he would have already.
29 May 2025 21:24:18
So, looking at the xG stats for the Premier League,
Mbeumo:
Most likely to have scored 12 goals, actually scored 20. Of the extra 8 goals we think probably 4 due to luck and 4 due to being clinical
Took 85 shots and scores approximately 1 every 4 shots.
He would have been expected to score 1 goal every 280 minutes and actually scored 1 every 171 minutes
Nunez:
Most likely to have scored 6 goals, actually scored 5. Of the 1 goal less we think that was probably due to being unlucky.
Took 34 shots and scores approximately 1 every 7 shots.
He would have been expected to score 1 goal every 191 minutes and actually scored 1 goal every 224 minutes.
Ta :)
29 May 2025 22:10:00
Ron, with your outlook on life, I wouldn't be a betting man either. Go on tell us how happy you would be if, in the really really unlikely event, he did actually decide to not stay at Leverkusen, not go to bayern, and not go to Madrid and come to us instead. No. nothing. I'll get my coat!
30 May 2025 04:43:32
@Ron, if RM wanted Wirtz, AS and Marca would have been building him up and his link to their new managers arrival since the start of last season. Wirtz can be on holiday having said he wants to join us and just need to show up and sign on the dotted line when the clubs have agreed the financials etc. you may have missed it but there was an incident at the start of the week when a ‘troubled’ individual drove into spectators at the parade in the enter of the city. It’s not beyond the imagination of those who have a modicum of empathy that the club was focussed on supporting those who had been injured or traumatised by events as a priority rather than negotiating with Leverkusen. If you want to fret, have a go fretting for the people who are still hospitalised and their families.