04 Jun 2025 21:00:43
I am seeing lots of reports of a breakthrough in the Wirtz deal. Any truth or news on this?
04 Jun 2025 21:21:01
Seem to be reported by Lewis Steele, Daily Mail journo, who says he is hearing it from "two different sources" that the deal with Wirtz is 99% done and the deal with Leverkusen has had a breakthrough.
Our sources here - Carra, Akira and Thefields - all seem unanimous that its just a matter of when. Probably complicated by him being on Intl duty until the end of the week.
Sounds like it's going to happen, but Kerkez may be official first as he doesn't join up for international duty until Friday whereas Wirtz is already with the Germany squad.
The last paragraph is just my view, though.
04 Jun 2025 21:26:33
No messing this one up . My word, the grief Hughes was getting from the keyboard warriors shows how who's problem that was.
04 Jun 2025 23:58:29
There was another poster who supposedly has a connection to Wirtz family that said recently that deal with Leverkusen was already done and that the family (Wirtz' agents) are working on finalizing the deal.
05 Jun 2025 00:12:30
Ah yes, that was Sourkraut, IIRC.
05 Jun 2025 04:47:38
Vango -
So if we sign Wirtz and few others, does it mean Hughes, Edwards get a clean sheet for last year shortcomings?
Still can't understand Marma signing honestly. Leave alone Chiesa.
10M for TAA all forgotten when his actual value is
When team does good, we appreciate and when they perform bad, we criticize them.
Same logic applies to the transfer team. They are not above criticism just because they manage to get Wirtz deal done.
You don't have to repeatedly downgrade the supporters for calling out Hughes and trasnfer team as keyboard warriors.
We are all in the same boat.
Cheers.
05 Jun 2025 06:16:20
Sami - were there shortcomings last summer? Been reported that slot wanted to assess the squad before making any decisions, that strategy whether true or not worked out ok and many pundits have praised that approach when he could have ripped up the team to put his stamp on it.
As for TAA only leaving for 10m the failure to tie him to long contract or sell was not on their watch, it sounds like the club made numerous contract offers which he rejected so as to run contract down and leave on a free, yes they could have sold last summer if there was clear indication that he wouldn’t sign an extension but I’d say 10m for a month was good in circumstances
Mama - the club clearly didn’t see Kelleher as a full time Ali replacement and he wanted first team football so they purchased who they believe can be an Ali replacement when one was available (time will tell if that’s a wise move)
Chiesa, seemed like a good player at cheap price but he’s not been given a chance, slot says he will next season so we will see.
Zubamendi deal was all done only for player to change his mind - hardly the clubs fault.
The recruiting team and manager have had a year at the club now so have to deliver in this window. The “shortcomings” last summer have left them with a sizeable budget allowing the club to shell out nearly 200m on pursuit of Wirtz, Kirkez and Frimpong in opening week of window.
Let’s see what happens during the rest….
But can’t be too critical of the transfer business last year without knowing whether lack of activity was indeed a collective decision.
05 Jun 2025 07:19:48
????.
05 Jun 2025 07:21:15
Nutter - exactly
Sam - selected brilliant new manager (see Manu and Arsenal) / PL champions / about to sign some amazing players and there are “shortcomings” (let’s hope we don’t only finish second this year heh…)
05 Jun 2025 07:51:00
The deal was finished between the club earlier. He will come to Liverpool. I watched him last night. He was good in a poor team performance.
05 Jun 2025 08:25:40
Keyboard warriors is rather apt on this occasion.
Probably more politically correct than calling them "sing when you're winning" hypocrites which is also extremely apt.
They'll show it again when we drop our first points in the upcoming season.
05 Jun 2025 08:29:22
Thanks Sourkrout. Heard a lot of German media having a go at him. But this almost feels like Bayern led to discredit him due to turning them down.
05 Jun 2025 08:32:53
OP, as has been mentioned at the start of last year’s summer window the club and Slot, on numerous occasions made specific reference to wanting to assess the squad with a fresh set of eyes (the then new coaching set up) . Given the arrival of number 20 a few weeks ago it is fair to say that the planned assessment and resultant activity worked.
Your ‘shortcomings’ are more to do with your pre-conceptions / expectations of what you thought should happen all of which had nothing to do with what the club repeatedly stated what it was actually going to do.
Of course Slot has now separated the wheat from the chaff and is actively seeking to strengthen the squad based on a year’s practical experience gained at the club with the original squad he inherited.
05 Jun 2025 08:35:51
Cheers Sourkrout, your updates have been appreciated.
Nutter, spot on.
05 Jun 2025 08:56:36
I don't know if any of these posts have been aimed at me. I was not having a go at Hughes or being a 'keyboard warrior' I was just asking if there was any news because media (social or otherwise) have given so many different 'truths' about the Wirtz situation and I tend to trust this group more than any other.
If you look at my previous posts I have been somebody who has defended Hughes and FSG.
Again if these were not aimed at me then I apologize and please ignore the above. ?.
05 Jun 2025 09:28:01
There’s no bigger or more knowledgeable fan than me and I agree with nutter. Spot on - coming from me that’s a complement!
05 Jun 2025 10:08:41
Let’s see if this deal goes through, until I see players wearing the shirt at the table signing it’s all wishful thinking.
05 Jun 2025 10:33:48
What about pictured in the panini sticker album?
05 Jun 2025 10:35:47
Wishful thinking is fanciful speculation with no basis in fact or likelihood of realisation. This is quite different from that, so that is an unfortunate use of words.
And whatever shortcomings we supposedly had in the transfer market, we won the league comfortably. So I'm not sure what the complaining is about. If chiesa comes good for us this season or gets sold for more than we paid for him, what will you have to say then?
I'm not a champion of Hughes or anything, I think we can't properly assess his work until the end of this window. But all this whining is pretty incomprehensible.
05 Jun 2025 10:43:04
It’s the same with me @Klopp4pm, I have absolutely no confidence in any skilled human doing the job they are paid for whatsoever. I spend my days just waiting for them to fail.
05 Jun 2025 11:38:40
I hope we go for number 21 this season and CL of course
What I would like the team to be is a squad of game changers when your losing and not a case of just fresh legs coming on.
05 Jun 2025 09:41:59
Thank you Sourkrout for the update.
05 Jun 2025 09:46:38
SA… Don’t think the digs were aimed at you mate. There were a few tedious, very vocal Hughes / FSG downcryers, who would pipe up with negativity when ever a rumour was floated relating to a player who’s profile they believed was out of our glorious clubs reach. Thankfully, heard less from the more tiresome ones recently.
05 Jun 2025 11:58:00
I’ve never got the criticism of Hughes. It seems there’s way too many fans getting ideas way above their station.
Surely it makes absolutely no difference who does what behind the scenes as long as we are winning? It seems that everyone gets way too involved in finances, transfers, back room staff recruitment etc instead of just enjoying the fact that we just won the league!
Football is all about winning and we are doing that so why are we even getting involved in anything else?
05 Jun 2025 13:21:41
Surely the Mamrdashvili signing makes sense now that Kelleher has gone?
I think the club was waiting on Davey's review of Wirtz' performance last night before finalising the transfer.
About the bickering between the keyboard worriers and us superfans:
It's a banter forum. We can banter and wind up each other and follow the same team, can't we?
We are not all the same because of our team. We will clash, call each other names and say 'I told you so' the same as I can have a few pints and agree with things a United fan will say.
I will probably be doing both later!
You have been warned, Salah ??.