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29 Aug 2024 10:50:15
Salah confirmed he is not going this summer. Good news.
{Ed002's Note - Staying to run down his contract for a huge signing on fee next season.}
1.) 29 Aug 2024 11:03:20
Guess we had the opportunity to cash in a year ago and decided that keeping him was more important to the club.
{Ed002's Note - The club will look to a solution in the coming weeks if they can.}
2.) 29 Aug 2024 11:11:31
Ed002, may I ask if there were any bids for him this summer? or will any interested parties just wait the year.
{Ed002's Note - Bids might arrive in the next couple of weeks but I suspect he would want to run down his contract.}
3.) 29 Aug 2024 11:18:04
Yeh a shame to see him go for nothing alright but if there's a man who's earned that right it's Mo. Owes us nothing, still hopeful we tie him down for another year or 2 but all good things must come to an end unfortunately. Nobody bigger than the club, we've survived other club legends leaving and we will again. Let's hope if it is his swansong that he goes out with a bang!
4.) 29 Aug 2024 11:22:08
No chance of him seeing out the decade with the reds? I'd be happy to see him sign for at least 2 more years.
If it is the case that he is leaving, then will Kubo get signed in Jan or next summer?
5.) 29 Aug 2024 11:29:47
That's how I read it Ed002. I don't see it as him doing anything but running his contract down and getting a huge sum next year. Despite his impressive start, I still personally believe we should have sold him for the rumoured £150m and reinvested in a top CB and RW at the time.
6.) 29 Aug 2024 11:31:05
I think you’re right Ed.
7.) 29 Aug 2024 11:31:52
As a modern legend of the club I think he has earned that right if that is what he wants.
8.) 29 Aug 2024 11:37:34
Exactly. Strikes me as fair enough. He hasn't exactly been a bad servant to the club or poor value for what we paid for him. Unless Ed002 tells us it wasn't as simple as this, LFC had its chance to cash in on him last summer and didn't take it.
9.) 29 Aug 2024 11:40:43
If that’s the case, good luck to the lad.
Cost us £36.5 rising to £43m 7 years ago. He has been value for money and given excellent service (look at the PL records he has amassed) .
10.) 29 Aug 2024 11:41:55
‘Running down’ and ‘seeing out’ a contract are two very different ways of wording something that’s exactly the same. Glass half full/ glass half empty.
Personally I think he deserves it, and owes Liverpool no more than they owe him. Both sides have been perfectly respectful and professional during a massively successful relationship.
Looking forward to watching him play again this season and good luck to him in the future whether it’s here or somewhere else.
11.) 29 Aug 2024 11:53:45
It’s mad how he gets away with leaving every single summer since we signed him.
12.) 29 Aug 2024 11:55:33
He has given the club his best years and given us far more in return than the £36.9m we spent to bring him in. He will go down as one of the Premier Leagues best ever transfers. I would love to see him stay for another couple of years but if he walks off into the Saudi sunset next summer I will clap him out of the door and thank him for his service.
Great player, great professional and a great man. He is and always will be a Liverpool legend.
13.) 29 Aug 2024 11:55:56
It was poor management to have let him run down his contract and leave for free.
It was extremely poor management to let almost the 3 most important players of the team all in the same position.
14.) 29 Aug 2024 12:10:35
Club before player always .
If we decide to sell
If we decide to renew
Or let him leave for free next year . I actually feel ok with all options . We know we need to reinvest if he goes if he stays we have a quality player and if he’s going next year for free we have 10-12 months to identify and find the replacement.
All good things come to an end hopefully regardless of salah we continue to be a great team.
15.) 29 Aug 2024 12:14:39
Thing is according to the eds, Salah and his agent has been looking for a big payout for a while, with proposing him to different clubs. Who knows this may have been his intention all along after signing the last extension see it out and then leave.
This is not me having a go at Salah at all. But we don't know what has been said behind closed doors.
{Ed001's Note - not eds, just Ed002. For me, his agent has 100% been looking for a way out, but that is not because of Salah looking for one, which is why he has been asking ridiculous money. As far as I have been able to find out, Mo has never wanted to leave but his agent wants the big payout, so he asks ridiculous money because otherwise Mo would have no interest.}
16.) 29 Aug 2024 12:25:34
It is club before player, if he goes for free it leaves us in a much weaker position.
17.) 29 Aug 2024 12:27:35
Thanks Ed001 apologies for my mix up.
{Ed001's Note - no worries SA. I don't tend to get involved in the discussions on him because it doesn't really matter as the offer was never incoming.}
18.) 29 Aug 2024 12:27:43
Can you see him signing an extension ed01?
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea. I don't think he knows himself yet. The thing with Salah is that he doesn't just want to make up the numbers, so he won't stay if he is not good enough to play regularly and contribute positively. I expect him to see if he can actually be at it all season this time around or if he has a similar drop off as last season. If the drop off happens, I would think he would be looking to leave and go somewhere a little easier - probably Saudi. To be fair to him though, he has not yet had an offer to even think about whether he wants to stay or not. Good luck to him either way, he has been sensational for us and I am just grateful I got to witness him playing for us.}
19.) 29 Aug 2024 12:35:56
Absolutely nailed it Footyfan. As fans we expect players to show loyalty, but then when they do show loyalty it's somehow twisted to being a crime anyway. Damned if they do, damned if they don't! Salah's a legend. He's currently our 5th top scorer of all time and if he scores 16 more goals this season he goes past Billy Liddell into 4th, and if he get's 29 more he'll go past Gordon Hogdson into 3rd. Imagine predicting that on the day he signed from Roma. You'd have been called deluded. Legend is over used but of all the players we've had post Steven Gerrard, Salah is the one that nobody in their right mind can dispute. His sheer volume of goals alone cement his place in Liverpool history. He'll likely still be in our all time top 10 goal scorers in 100 years time when we're all long gone and our grandkids are talking about football and how highly we used to speak of Salah before we passed away. His achievements at Liverpool will transcend generations and even when they're forgotten from living memory, the numbers will still stand tall as a reminder someone truly special wore the shirt for us. Generally though the posters on this site are very respectful towards Mo and appreciative of what he's done at the club. Simply look at this thread. Everyone here is saying the same thing; he's earned the right to do what he wants. He really has.
20.) 29 Aug 2024 13:02:48
Sorry MK, I still can't class Salah as a club legend. Exceptional player, yes. But legend no, for me anyway. He has never once delivered in a final for the club and has actually done the opposite, gone missing. The only final he ever looked like really tearing up on his own was the one were Ramos deliberately injured him. For me, legends so gle handedly win big games on their own.
21.) 29 Aug 2024 13:04:46
I can’t follow the logic that “the club should have sorted x’s contract out months ago” - in this case Mo - if the player doesn’t wish to negotiate or renew.
A contract has a finite period and as part of the process everybody involved in signing the contract must surely be aware of its duration and that it will come to an end? I
I suppose these days there is a blame culture and somebody has to be at fault but it really doesn’t always need to be the case that someone has done something wrong.
22.) 29 Aug 2024 13:26:22
The only time I've seen mo have drop off during his spell at lfc has been after african nations when it held in Jan. happened twice and both times he came back and had v poor ending to season (by his standards) . Other than that mo has been mr consisent during his 7/ 8 years with us, good as guranteeing u a goal every game beit an assist r scoring himself. i've nodoubt he will score 25+ this season.
23.) 29 Aug 2024 13:28:10
WDW3
Bang on.
Zubimendi chose not to join. As is his right.
Mo may choose to not sign a new deal. As is his right.
We might not offer one. As is our right.
Weird entitlement abounds. I want this thing so it must be so.
24.) 29 Aug 2024 13:29:07
How do other clubs manage the contract process WDW? I can’t think of any other major club who have put themselves in our position. It’s incompetence.
25.) 29 Aug 2024 13:33:37
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, that’s what makes this beautiful game so great.
However, I can’t get onboard with fans criticising someone like Mo. Just look at what he has achieved for the club and also for himself. Football started before 1992 but a lot of fans forget that. Look at his stats since the beginning of LFC and you will see what a truly fantastic servant he has been to us.
Good luck to him, whatever he decides over the next 12 months. I would love him to stay, but if he leaves I wish all the best and thank him.
Also for the person saying he can’t class him as a legend because what has happened in finals, behave. How many of our greats down the years haven’t turned up in finals. Plus didn’t he score a penalty in the first minutes of a Champions League Final!?
26.) 29 Aug 2024 14:13:47
Stuie boy. Salah is and will always be a club legend.
27.) 29 Aug 2024 15:38:55
Ed01, interesting to hear your perspective on Salah.
Would like to hear your perspective on VVD and TAA as well.
Even though Trent is a boyhood red, I’m beginning to worry that the long this drags on, the less likely he will be signing.
Part of human nature, it gives you the time to think and convince yourself to try something new, even though you are inclined in the first place.
{Ed001's Note - he was ready to sign, no idea why it never got done. Liverpool have dropped the ball on this one and if he has had second thoughts, who can blame him?}
28.) 29 Aug 2024 16:42:45
Whilst I’d obviously prefer the club to get some money from his transfer we can’t really grumble too much. He’s more than paid us back whilst he’s been with us. What did we pay - £35m?
If he wants to chase one final big pay day we can’t really begrudge him that.
28 Mar 2024 21:31:43
Big news. Xabi Alonso staying at current club. Clearly waiting for Real Madrid when Carlo leaves. Liverpool now looking at another manager.
No point anyone posting about it anymore. He's not coming.
1.) 28 Mar 2024 21:39:34
Real Madrid wins again.
2.) 28 Mar 2024 22:10:11
Big news?.
3.) 28 Mar 2024 22:15:38
"Fly pelican fly" chatting wham lad.
4.) 28 Mar 2024 22:21:31
Uli Hoeness saying it's "probably impossible" for Bayern to get him too.
5.) 28 Mar 2024 22:22:45
Happy with that especially if that’s what he wants.
Totally ok with Amorim. Personally think he is at least the equal of Alonso but preferred Alonso because of the connection to us.
Well, nothing is confirmed so just looking forward to whoever really.
6.) 28 Mar 2024 22:30:20
I'm here for the Victor meltdown!
7.) 28 Mar 2024 22:43:37
First i've heard of it, but if true, is anyone really surprised? He's a Spaniard, and most Spanish managers would dream to manage Real Madrid. You would think one would buck the trend and move to a "peoples" team in Spain, and not one bankrolled by the Spanish elite. But hey ho. His loss, as Liverpool is still the greatest club in the world.
8.) 28 Mar 2024 22:51:34
Madrid is the club he’s waiting for 100%.
9.) 28 Mar 2024 22:52:17
Has this actually been confirmed or is it just from what Hoeness has said? The bbc are leading with an LFC headline but literally the only quote is from Hoeness, which isn't exactly reliable.
10.) 28 Mar 2024 22:09:56
Ed001 and Ed002 have been saying this for weeks, so either the people on this forum don’t read what they post and/ or the Paul Joyce’s of this world just copy what they post here, the Ed’s said that Leverkusen will make it hard for Alonso to leave if they win the league.
11.) 28 Mar 2024 23:24:56
Thats fine if he wants to stay but what i find weird is why hasn't he just said he's staying? surely the Bayer fans would love to know. seems a bit Griezmann-like.
12.) 28 Mar 2024 23:29:43
As long as we don’t end up with dross like Nagelsmann, De Zerbi, Flick, Tuchel or Zidane.
13.) 28 Mar 2024 23:31:37
BossKlopp - what’s wham about it?
14.) 28 Mar 2024 23:44:18
Is it me, perhaps as I don’t watch as much football anymore, but other than Alonso I’m not excited by any of the potential managers out there. Guess it’s because Klopp is such a hard act to follow. I always loved Alonso as a player for us, so perhaps I’ve been slightly blinkered by that, but he does seem to be excelling. Anyhow, got an exciting few weeks coming up, hopefully we can get on a winning run again. ?.
15.) 29 Mar 2024 00:35:49
He basically said that its going to be hard for Bayern to get him. What else is he meant to say? Why even bother with th BBC even Match of the Day is a waste of my time now.
16.) 29 Mar 2024 01:26:31
IF it is true then good luck to him, only he will know what's best for him, if he chooses to stay at BL then it must be his right decision, we must respect that. Not what we wanted but it's not about us.
Only thing concerning me is I too, am not excited about any other manager incoming but we never know what the future may hold, it's not the end of the season yet. Let's just enjoy Klopp and this season.
17.) 29 Mar 2024 01:27:34
To be fair, ed2 said ages ago that if Leverlusen were to win Bundestag then it’d make it difficult for Alonso to leave. Perhaps this is just this likely scenario playing out.
18.) 28 Mar 2024 21:43:50
If you are Alonso who is Spanish, who will you join? Its no brainer.
19.) 29 Mar 2024 02:25:12
What's Joachim Low up to these days?
20.) 29 Mar 2024 05:18:00
Joachim Low is busy these days scratching his balls or arse and sniffing it.
21.) 28 Mar 2024 21:43:50
If you are Alonso who is Spanish, who will you join? Its no brainer.
22.) 29 Mar 2024 06:30:27
If Alonso doesn’t want to come then that’s fine, it must take really big balls to replace Klopp and everything he has built right down to his relationship with the Coty. Expectations are extremely high following Klopp and not many managers will fancy the pressure. So if Alonso doesn’t have the balls then we are better off without him sadly….
23.) 29 Mar 2024 06:30:54
Disappointing news as regards alonso, thought he wouldn't have been fit to turn us down but at same time not massively surprised.
If he stays with leverkusan fair play to him and taking my lfc goggles off probably right call.
If he goes to Munich he would go down in my estimation, hoping to a direct rival after being in a title race with them and all the talking bayern have done about trying to get jim as manager during the race, most definitely wrong imo.
Didn't know anything about amorion 4/ 5 months ago but from what I read he should be next on list. If he doesn't come i really don't know where we go, v v average looking rest of candidates.
24.) 29 Mar 2024 06:45:12
Glad this is over to many people assumed alonso was nailed on, think it’s nagelsmann as ed2 has said .
If it is then he deserves all our support.
25.) 29 Mar 2024 07:34:58
Who would you have then VV of Alonso is off the table?
26.) 29 Mar 2024 07:42:07
Nagelsmann isn’t getting support from me Fatwallet, I see no reason to forgive him for the disrespect he showed us before, awful manager and a complete drop off from Klopp.
27.) 29 Mar 2024 07:50:45
Like a few posters have said, we shouldn’t put all our eggs in one basket. While the return of alonso would be a surreal story, the guys on his way to winning the league with this Leverkusen team and dominating the league, he will surely want to test himself and his squad in the champions league next year and then look to move to Madrid. Timing seems about right. Good luck too him, if he wants that career path and many would, then he’s not the one for us sadly. I wouldn’t want to sign alonso thne have to look for a new manager in a year or 2 because his dream job now became available. The names floating around don’t fill us with hope but I believe we find the right guy come next season. Amorim for me. many say not enough experience, low league experience ect but the guy looks like the over all best fit and someone who has good tactical skill, game management skill and player development. truth is best two managers we’ve been linked with in alonso and Amorim both have very little experience but seem to be the next era of coaches coming through. all my own opinions of course.
28.) 29 Mar 2024 07:58:03
What’s Andre Villas-Boas up to these days.
29.) 28 Mar 2024 21:46:05
I guess that narrows it down to Amorim, Nagelsmann and De Zerbi. Amorim would be my top choice out of those.
Ed002 do you know if his release clause is still €20m? I think I’ve read it has lowered since last summer but I might be incorrect on that.
{Ed002's Note - €20M termination clause and the cost of terminating his staff.}
30.) 29 Mar 2024 08:18:22
Blimey, I’m not sure anyone will want to come to us reading this - we don’t even have a replacement and they’ve already lost our support because they’re not Alonso.
Try a little enthusiasm people, devastating losing Klopp - but it was always going to happen and should be grateful we’ve had him for so long
Chin up folks, LFC are evolving, that’s all.
31.) 29 Mar 2024 10:31:00
So surprised he’s willing to stay in Germany for another season if he wins the league. I really thought the stars had aligned for Alonso to manage us before inevitably moving on to his dream job at Madrid.
32.) 29 Mar 2024 10:54:09
He’d be sacked by Madrid unless he wins everything within 2 seasons just like everyone else and he’ll be aware of that. Staying at Leverkusen doesn't necessarily mean waiting for Real. He may just be an honourable man, repaying the faith in Leverkusen.
33.) 29 Mar 2024 12:46:19
Xabi is Basque, which isn’t quite the same as being a Spaniard.
People added 2 and 2 and got 7 when it was Liverpool, what’s the difference with Madrid? Klopp is leaving this season so it has to be Xabi, Ancelotti’s new contract finishes in 26, it has to be Xabi. Nice to speculate but it should be remembered that it is speculation.
34.) 29 Mar 2024 13:00:09
Not surprised at all. Stay at BL for another season and take over the super team RM is building. If he had joined us this summer, I doubt he would have stayed for more than couple of years before going to RM.
Amorim looks like a decent bet but players have to adapt to new system he brings, and he will need to do step up but in Europe.
03 May 2023 20:45:55
Milner to join Brighton this summer.
1.) 03 May 2023 21:00:40
Gutted to hear this to be honest he's a great leader and athlete and I think we should have kept him another year then added him to our coaching team.
2.) 03 May 2023 21:05:31
Ox, Nobby, Milner Out. Bradley, Morton and 'new signing' Thiago coming in.
3.) 03 May 2023 21:17:33
I’d of kept him over any of our mids he’s loyal always fit gives 200% and a great head to have around!
U look at that stain Keita and think wtf!
If he leaves I wish him nottin but the best amazing man and professional!
4.) 03 May 2023 22:04:07
He’ll be a big loss. Seems like a really decent, down to earth bloke, who looks after himself very well and keeps himself in shape. Thank you for what you’ve done at the club and all the very best for the future Millie.
5.) 03 May 2023 22:35:24
Milner was a fantastic servant and has earned every medal he could at this club BUT his time has passed.
Now the only thing he is guaranteed to bring is a hard tackle with a yellow card. He is still extrememly fit but not elite football club level fit.
Loved him but he needs to move on.
Thanks for the memories James Milner.
6.) 03 May 2023 23:20:39
James Milner has been nothing short of a model professional but let’s take this sentiment some hold to one side. The guy turns 38 in January! Are some looking to keep him until he is 40 years old? I’m not gutted he is leaving as his time is up. I’m just happy for the memories and wish him luck in his new venture.
7.) 03 May 2023 23:21:02
Apparently when Milner was at city he taught himself spanish so he could make the new spanish speaking players feel more welcome at the club. He has been a great signing and its a shame he is going to leave but i wish him all the best (except when they play against us)
8.) 04 May 2023 05:47:21
He could still come back to coach ??.
9.) 04 May 2023 08:37:37
It’s fine, Hendo will take his role now. Don’t need both of them on the bench. Good guy though - strange to go Brighton as imagine he will have the same role as here.
10.) 04 May 2023 09:43:42
If it is true, then I wonder if Milly has made the choice because he wants the opportunity to experience De Zerbi's coaching methods as part of his own journey to coaching?
11.) 04 May 2023 10:08:24
Millie's leadership in the changing room will be seriously missed but he wants playing time. I thought he'd move to a coach/ player role next year followed by a coaching role the year after since he finished his UEFA coaching badges but he has seen the difficulties faced by JK in this last year and this seems to have left him unclear about a management path as an option at all. I think he will become a coach but he's definitely suspended when that will happen.
12.) 04 May 2023 10:24:22
FPF that's a really good point actually. He'll have played for De Zerbi, Klopp, Guardiola and Bobby Robson so will certainly have learned a lot.
That said, he has also played for Graeme Souness and Allardyce so the poor lad might have already lost a few brain cells.
13.) 04 May 2023 13:02:10
Doubt this is true - he is doing his coaching badges and Klopp see's him as being part of his coaching staff.
14.) 04 May 2023 13:24:49
Millie will have his eyes on the all time PL records. Appearances, wins.
15.) 04 May 2023 14:14:09
Overstayed by about 2 or 3 years time to get Henderson gone with him. Loyalty isn't a bad thing but players need to be good enough.
16.) 04 May 2023 15:24:24
I'm confused why people think he can't carry on playing at another club and then coach at LFC when he feels ready? It's not either or!
17.) 04 May 2023 18:04:59
Jones, Elliott, Fab, Hendo, Thiago, Trent, Baj before anyone else joins. Add two more and that makes 9 fighting for between 2/ 4 places. Surely at least one more will be leaving as well as Carvalho.
20 Mar 2023 13:38:27
Ed2 a question if I may. How highly regarded is Mount at Chelsea these days? Is this just negotiation posturing or are they really willing to let him go?
As a Chelsea boy through the ranks with a fair bit of quality, it would surprise me if he left but very interested in your view.
Thanks in advance!
{Ed002's Note - Mason Mount (AM) Yet to agree a new contract and could depart if he is not more reasonable in his demands - and his demands are very significant. Real Madrid and Juventus, both via a third party, have asked after him. Juventus won't match his wage demands but they have a tax advantage, but I suspect they can be discounted unless a trade for Vlahovic, possibly including another player, could be arranged. Real Madrid are looking to move on a couple of high earners in the summer so could afford him. Barcelona have made a direct approach to Chelsea but the salary demands would be an issue. There is no interest from PSG or Bayern Munich who are two other clubs who could afford him. Chelsea are rather miffed with him after making what they consider was a very good offer, and will sell in the summer if a new contract is not agreed. Manchester United or Liverpool may be intererested as an alternative to Bellingham but they would likely not want to match his wage demands and have not at this time spoken with Chelsea. Howvere, change of agent leads potentially to the door of Manchester United.}
1.) 20 Mar 2023 15:23:43
What about Gabriel Vega Ed? Has Liv take a look in him/ interested?
{Ed002's Note - You mean the youngster from Boca or is on loan somewhere or other - I don't recall where? If so, no.}
2.) 20 Mar 2023 15:31:13
Celta Vigo Gabriel vega. Hearing lots of clubs interested in him. I don't think he's on loan from somewhere.
{Ed002's Note - I know who you mean.
Gabri Veiga (CM/AM) Attracting scouts from PL and La Liga. Real Madrid offer an option but the player wants to be a started and he won't be there. Newcastle may make an offer. Arsenal are keen but need to make a decision about departures. For Manchester United an alternative to Bellingham. Celta Vigo will not look to sell unless relegated.}
3.) 20 Mar 2023 16:16:30
Thanks Ed2, much appreciated.
4.) 20 Mar 2023 16:30:09
He's a Chelsea boy through and through. He'd be best placed to come to an agreement with the club given they want him to stay.
5.) 20 Mar 2023 17:47:54
Ed Is mount looking for salah kind of money?
{Ed002's Note - No but more than van Dijk.
6.) 20 Mar 2023 17:55:51
Let’s hope United make a bid for Mount. He looks like their kind of player.
7.) 20 Mar 2023 20:54:09
Real Madrid are interested, Juve too, Barcelona have made a direct approach but Victor thinks he’s not good enough for Liverpool ?.
What’s your opinion of Mount as a player Ed002? Bit of a strange season for him but for me still a very good player and would enhance Liverpool’s midfield no end.
{Ed002's Note - He is a very good player but demands are likely too high. Needs to think carefully about his future.}
8.) 21 Mar 2023 03:31:49
Kind of the whole game in a nutshell at the moment. Mount is a 'good' player but demanding those sorts of sums is a joke. Did anyone see the paul merson clip where he was saying being a professional footballer was harder than being a brain surgeon?! Total idiot.
9.) 21 Mar 2023 05:27:00
Is Mount Oscar 2.0 in the making then?
03 Jul 2022 21:48:32
Evening Ef2 hope you're well. Do you know which team West Ham feel approached Sonny Perkins or can you at least confirm it's not Liverpool. Thank you as always.
{Ed002's Note - I do and it is not Liverpool.}
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11 Jun 2025 19:15:29
So sky sports viewing figures were down 10% and TNT 17% last year due to "the title race being over too early. "
Who really pays the big bucks to the PL and the players wages? I'll let you guess.
So they have admitted that it's in their interest for it to be a closer race. With streaming the future and billions at stake does that make decision making / VAR open to abuse?
1.) 11 Jun 2025 19:53:05
1jj, I fully agree. It will be really interesting to see if these figures affect how games will be officiated next season cos what Sky and INT are saying is that if a team walks the league, that's bad for their ratings.
And we all know that the higher the drama, the higher the entertainment, the higher the ratings and then, the more money the broadcasters make. So will games now be officiated in order to ensure more drama, entertainment and higher ratings? Uncomfortable conversations, IMO.
2.) 11 Jun 2025 20:01:50
Where there’s that level of money, there’s corruption. I’m convinced that the PGMOL is not there just to officiate games but to engineer an outcome.
There are too many powerful people that stand to make too much money (or lose too much money) for them not to have some kind of control on the outcome.
3.) 11 Jun 2025 20:11:22
Viewing figures have gone down due to the cost of watching on sky and the cost of living going through the roof.
Throw in the ease of steaming games as well and there’s the answer.
People can’t afford to watch games it’s as simple as that.
4.) 11 Jun 2025 20:11:49
Ever thought viewings are down as the football on offer is a bit crap nowadays played by a bunch of overpaid lads with no personality. That's my take anyway.
5.) 11 Jun 2025 20:20:25
Probably just more people getting dodgy boxes.
6.) 11 Jun 2025 20:22:01
Utter nonsense. IMO.
7.) 11 Jun 2025 20:39:24
If this is true then it is very sad. I could as well stop watching football.
8.) 11 Jun 2025 20:39:52
Maybe everyone is using Amazon sticks these days.
9.) 11 Jun 2025 20:59:26
It maybe me, but the terminology changed, the phrase We are entertainers, clubs and players etc have used this term.
Less and less the Professional athlete/ sports person terminology is used.
10.) 11 Jun 2025 21:20:21
Austerity is biting most people. 60% of festivals went down, globally last year, the sale of luxury goods are falling, as are holiday sales. Sky sports is another luxury item that costs too much for many.
Welcome to the times we live in, this is not some anomoly cause we walked away with the title early in the year.
11.) 11 Jun 2025 21:22:49
Attendances are higher now than they've been for donkey's years. Check our gates back in the 80s, they were mid 30k some games. The glory days?
12.) 11 Jun 2025 21:26:27
So it's corrupt and we won it?
Do we get another asterisk? ?.
13.) 12 Jun 2025 00:40:07
JK23 gave the correct answer.
Subscription price + stagnant wages = increased move to piracy.
It's funny how the streaners didn't learn from the cable collapse of the late 90s and are doing the exact same thing again.
14.) 12 Jun 2025 07:46:01
It'd depend on what the figures mean.
If Sky and TNT customers are being counted then they are still subscribing. I have them but I don't watch every game.
If it's more about the general public, would they know how they watched it? Would people be as open about how they watched it?
How would pub figures be used?
I think we need to know a lot more before creating another conspiracy.
02 Jun 2025 21:55:09
So.
LW Gakpo / Wirtz
CF Osmehin / Wirtz / Jota
LW Salah / Frimpong.
1.) 02 Jun 2025 22:05:45
I think the opposition RB might get overwhelmed but their LB can have a rest!
2.) 02 Jun 2025 22:33:49
You can't have too many left wingers, Zed.
3.) 02 Jun 2025 23:18:29
That's more like Zeddicus, well spotted!
Having second thoughts on Minteh/ Elliot could work, definitely more dangerous and a lot faster, end product better, and be a close team mate for Endo!
4.) 02 Jun 2025 22:58:11
Haha maybe right wing for Salah and Frimpong then just to mix things up!
5.) 02 Jun 2025 23:05:45
It weakens our frontline depth significantly if we sell Elliott, Chiesa, Nunez and Diaz but only sign Osimhen and Wirtz. Means during AFCON we’ll be left with Wirtz, Frimpong, Gakpo and Jota. Jota being very injury prone and Bradley also having an injury history which could see Frimpong needed at RB. Not to mention Wirtz being best as a 10 anyway.
6.) 03 Jun 2025 04:21:47
I dunno, losing the energy of Diaz from the tarting group and Nunez from the squad feels like a step backwards to me.
7.) 03 Jun 2025 05:28:24
Calling the forward line tarts seems harsh Faith.
8.) 03 Jun 2025 10:56:56
I agree, MKS. We can sell all those players and then bring in 2 forwards. the nos. don't happen hence I think Jota could be kept if no buyer comes in for him.
And even there, that's 3 players in Chiesa, Diaz and Elliot leaving is still a number's issue in attack. We're going to have to see how things pan out.
02 Jun 2025 08:05:21
Why would PSG let Barcola go? Konate joining them either this year or pre agreed next on a free could be the reason?
2+2=?
1.) 02 Jun 2025 09:03:26
They probably won't.
From Barcola perspective he may feel a little on the outside looking in.
He was ahead of Doue originally but Doue has just grown and grown and looks to be something super special.
Barcola will get a load of games in French league, champions League group stages etc. This will most likely satisfy him another year to fight become a top three foward in the side again.
But he isn't signing a contract extension and I suggest the reason is he doesn't like being a sub in the biggest games.
Also a reason he may not join us were he to leave. He'll have to fight Gakpo.
could see him at Arsenal where he would be a nailed on starter were he to leave.
However I do think he stays at PSG one more year. He is contracted to 2028 so there's no real pressure on PSG.
2.) 02 Jun 2025 11:49:12
Barcola ain't that good anyway.
3.) 02 Jun 2025 11:53:13
Perhaps we are doing a Real Madrid with him Davey - stay where you are for a year and we will sort out an amped up signing on fee?
Or maybe, Akira’s fabled June 7th discussion is with PSG - swapsies with Konate and Barcola?
30 May 2025 17:02:59
Frimpong signed! One down three/ four to go.
21 Apr 2025 08:19:11
I'm about to see us win the title for only the second time in 30+ years. I've had to endure the pain of watching Manu, ManCity and Chelsea win more titles in that time than us.
Not sure what some other posters in here are seeing?
"We've been rubbish last few months. " "We need better players. " "We are terrible at finishing. " Etc etc
We are 13 points clear and literally walking the title. Did you prefer it when we were "so good" but kept losing the league by 1 point? Do you actually prefer it when we aren't successful?
Sometimes it's hard to tell whether some posters are trolls, life's half empty people or other teams fans trying to sow discord amongst our fans.
I'll tell you what though. I'm having the time of my life as a reds fan #20 here we come! And remember, ask any Manu fan right now, it doesn't always last so enjoy it whilst you can.
{Ed025's Note - great post 1jj..
1.) 21 Apr 2025 09:59:17
Absobloodylutely 1jj.
Could we upgrade in a couple of positions, of course. Has there ever been a complete football team that had the best player in every position, no. What this team has achieved in Slots first season is incredible. Forget about next season right now and enjoy the ride.
On another note did all the Trent haters celebrate wildly as the ball hit the back of the net. Or did they sit calmly and thought well it is only Trent that scored. I know what my reaction was.
2.) 21 Apr 2025 08:58:39
It’s just an opinion 1jj. We were beating teams while playing faster more exciting football for a good period of the season and now it’s slow and boring. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out mate. If you could pick out of the two am sure you would go back to the better looking football. And yes I know we tired ect! Am just saying it’s nice to watch us playing better football.
3.) 21 Apr 2025 09:00:45
Couldnt agree more mate.
4.) 21 Apr 2025 09:12:26
Some people are just not satisfied, we are grounding out results ATM but isn’t this what champions do? Enjoy the title we have deserved it.
5.) 21 Apr 2025 09:16:53
I wholeheartedly agree. One caveat, we really are terrible at finishing, a clinical striker in that team and we’d have been out of sight by half time yesterday. That’s a key issues that needs to be addressed.
6.) 21 Apr 2025 09:20:45
1jj, very well said. I've been saying for the last few months that I'm cherishing the moment. We are about to get back on our perch and a few years back I was doubting that that would ever happen. Yes, we do need strengthening, but I'm sure that will happen in the summer. In the meantime, I would ask all fellow Reds to savour this time because no one knows when it will come round again.
7.) 21 Apr 2025 09:24:26
We were challenging on 4 fronts.
Defeated in league cup, got ousted FA cup in early round plymouth and out in round 16 by PSG.
We were Defeated by Fulham and scrap past Leicester 1-0. Are we really walking towards title or limping towards title?
I know Eds doesn't like this kind of post but everything is wrote is true.
As a great man once said " Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But the kisses of an enemy are deceitfu. "
8.) 21 Apr 2025 09:25:55
No need to ask the Man U fans just ask the Liverpool fans. Enjoy it while it lasts. It’s been a brilliant season but you do need posts questioning certain things it keeps the site ticking over. Granted a lot of it rubbish.
The league for me was won months ago. My main take from the past few weeks is actually how much we have had to pay to keep our 2 star players. We let the players have all the negotiating power. What effect does it have on the rest of the squad?
9.) 21 Apr 2025 09:32:24
Spot on, 1jj. I have NO idea how certain members of a fan base like ours who have experienced all that we have experienced over the last 35 years in terms of the PL, can start being this negative, insolent and downright self entitled when we are about to match Utd's total of titles with a chance of outrightly knocking them off their perch for real in the next couple of seasons (hopefully) . Seriously, i cannot fathom it.
Mate, some of them go as far as saying, "We've been lucky to be where we are today cos blah, blah, blah. ". yeah, good luck convincing anyone with a brain that you can "fluke" a PL title. Even Leicester didn't do that. Now whether they are trolls or not, I have NO idea BUT they do parrott the same tired, sore loser talking points as rival fans do (see quote above for ex. ) so you could be right.
Like you, I am over the moon with what we have achieved this season and from a sheer nos. perspective, it is absolutely staggering. The burt of emotion over the past two games from the players and fans is awesome and should we beat Spurs (still got to do that) then, the exploion of joy at Anfield will be absolutely NUTS. And Im here for ALL of it. The trolls can do one.
10.) 21 Apr 2025 10:08:03
I don't know what world you live in lee but winning the title by more than 10 points is not limping to the title. Maybe you need to check the dictionary.
11.) 21 Apr 2025 10:17:14
Absolutely spot on.
Unfortunately many get wrapped up in the "armchair expert" thing, "it takes more than that to impress me". Wannabe pundits more interested in analysing/ criticizing/ slagging off their own players than in celebrating.
It's Easter and we've all but wrapped up no 20 in Slot's first season, it's the stuff of fantasy - but not for those who want perfection every game.
It's just page after page now of deriding their own title winning players while coveting the latest YouTube sensation.
Maybe it's a 21st century thing, like the need to be outraged by something innocuous on a reular basis?
All the Liverpool fans I grew up with are incredulous that we're back on our perch again yet the constant moaning intensifies the closer we get to confirming no 20.
If you can't enjoy becoming the country's most successful club, what do people watch it for?
12.) 21 Apr 2025 10:25:48
Great post 1jj - some people aren't happy unless we're winning every game 4-0. Grinding out results when you have to is the sign of a true champion.
13.) 21 Apr 2025 10:27:02
Good post, FTR. And Lee, are you ever happy? I genuinely wonder if you are a fan or a troll.
14.) 21 Apr 2025 10:35:20
@PB, @Leek has been telling us all season what Arsenal was going to do to us and we're STILL waiting.
Maybe that will happen when we are all on the p*** celebrating our 20th title before, during and after the parade.
15.) 21 Apr 2025 10:53:18
Absolutely spot on 1jj. Well said.
16.) 21 Apr 2025 11:21:13
Well said - been a great season, we have played some great stuff and whilst we may not like our recent form I believe we are still one of the most in-form teams in the league - not playing at are scintillating best yet still winning games, you got to like that surely?
17.) 21 Apr 2025 11:49:42
Absolutely, winning the title is amazing -no doubt about that. But being critical while still winning doesn’t mean you're a "life's half empty" person or a troll. It's about looking beyond the surface and seeing the cracks before they become chasms.
I’m over the moon that we’re finally about to clinch #20, Slot has done an incredible job and we should all be delighted. But let’s not pretend everything’s been perfect just because we’re top of the table.
Performances HAVE dipped. Since January, we’ve not been playing with the same control or intensity. We’re grinding out results, yes, but a lot of those games have been way closer than they needed to be. We've been hanging on against mid table sides. That’s not sustainable long term, not in the PL and definitely not in Europe.
We ARE poor at finishing. The chances we miss week after week? It’s shocking. The numbers don’t lie, we consistently underperform in front of goal. Against other top sides or in tighter seasons, that bites you. It’s already cost us in the cups this season.
We DO need reinforcements. Winning a league doesn’t mean you stop building. That’s what champions do - they strengthen when they’re on top. Look at how City and even Fergie’s United sides kept evolving. Some of our current squad players clearly aren’t at the level we need to stay dominant.
Being happy about a title and wanting the club to stay at the top aren’t mutually exclusive. The complacency some fans are showing right now? That’s how empires crumble. Enjoy the title, yes but also have the vision to see where we need to go next.
18.) 21 Apr 2025 13:21:37
The common conception is that the top teams improve every season and that to improve usually means you have to spend shed loads of money. That urban myth has taken a bit of a battering this season.
We’ve done exceptionally well this season without changing the squad from last season and with Arne seemingly not wanting to use too many of the peripheral squad players. The core will change a bit in the summer with, perhaps, one or two regular starters being replaced (Robbo and Jota) and a number of squad players, as opposed to regular starters being replaced and I can’t wait to see who comes in. I think the 15 - 16 numbers this season might well grow to the 20+ mark next season and if that is the case we might well give the quadruple a good crack. Can’t wait to see.
12 Jun 2025 11:50:12
Kenny - you're a sharp dressed poster!
11 Jun 2025 18:17:16
Schultzy not sure Kleenex is very romantic!
09 Jun 2025 17:19:11
Interesting. Wonder what they’d accept for all 3?
09 Jun 2025 12:05:25
Babelcopter! Though technically that is flying.
08 Jun 2025 12:16:06
Troll of the day goes to…
You’re just embarrassing yourself.
12 Jun 2025 11:52:13
One thing you can be very sure if, it's not coming from John W Henry's wallet.
11 Jun 2025 20:15:09
But needs to fit in to our wage structure. Imagine how salah and Virg would feel if having just signed new contracts he came in higher than them?
11 Jun 2025 18:18:02
AMEX - inagine the cash back and air miles!
10 Jun 2025 21:12:46
We have no interest in Grealish.
10 Jun 2025 18:39:54
#21 would be incredible (not saying that’s my expectation) and anything else a bonus.
After being a fan during the souness management years just to be competing again is amazing enough.