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28 Feb 2015 20:56:49
Any interest remaining from Liverpool in Dani Parejo?

AZ

{Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2019 06:07:36
Not in any way am I comparing them to the class of 92, but I cannot remember the last time there were multiple players from the academy/ youth system who had such a good chance of breaking in.

Brewster, Hoever, Trent and possibly Larouci, all within the space of 18 months, as well as other young players like Gomez and Elliott.

It's nice that we haven't spent money on backups like we used to in Assaidi, Ings, Voronin etc and a testament to the coaches these young players have worked with, and Klopp for giving them a chance. Better to save all that money on squad players and put it to 1 or 2 players that can make a real difference to the team.

So proud to support this club and the way it does business these days.

AZ

1.) 03 Aug 2019 07:31:01
AZ - can't agree with you more

Its a breath of fresh air to see, not just youngsters but talented youngsters (and even more so in Trent being a local lad) coming through the Academy and on the first team peripheral rather than going to the market.

We are in such a difficult phase at the moment in trying to bring in cover for the first team as the players that Klopp identifies will be of a high standard to the point that they themselves believe they should be playing every week - and good on them for thinking that as the opposite to that are mercenary's willing to sit in the bench and take the money every week - we are between a rock and a hard place.

So the youngsters coming through are now vital to the first team in terms of cover and I personally think its great to see them get there chance.


2.) 03 Aug 2019 10:42:33
I very much like the idea of some of those youngsters possibly proving their qiality. Right now is the best opportunity for any of those kids to try and be the rare breakthrough like Trent as klopp seems to have left the door open for future chances. The one thing about each of those guys is they were all signed as 15/ 16/ 17 year olds. The academy isn't really producing the top prospects.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 10:07:51
Adam Phillips
Cameron Brannagan
Yan Dhanda
Jordan Rossiter
Adam Morgan
Joao Carlos Teixiera
Ryan McLaughlin
Samed Yesil
Jordon Ibe
Adam Smith
Jack Robinson
Sheyi Ojo

Were all meant to be the next big players. i'd say let's calm down with this overhyping of some kids who have done nothing to prove they can be part of a title chasing team yet and maybe then 1 or 2 will become like Trent A. Arnold.


4.) 09 Aug 2019 00:28:05
Maaaaa - I agree it’s inportant not to overhype.

The difference is, in my opinion, that Klopp has made the decision not to buy second choice players which means tthat we have talented youngsters AND a spot in squad in case of injuries and fatigue.

Previously we had talented youngsters, say McLaughlin for example who couldn’t get a chance because we had Philipp Degen as second choice to Johnson.

Now, Hoever, Larouci has to cover right/ left back unless we play someone else out of their main position. Brewster and Elliott have a chance to play in any of the front 3 positions because we didn’t sign the top notch winger we all craved (myself included)


 

 

01 Nov 2015 09:02:03
Over the course of the next 6 months, I really hope Liverpool will try and tie down new contracts for Lucas Leiva, Jordan Rossiter, Joao Carlos Texeira and Jon Flanagan.

I presume for Rossiter and Flano, it is a case of when they emerge from the sidelines and prove their fitness.

AZ

1.) 01 Nov 2015 09:42:32
This may sound mean, but we have not seen anything from Tex or Rossiter to warrant long contracts being offered now. See how they get on this season, and decide in the summer. As for Flanagan, the club offered him support and gave him a 12 month extension when he was unfortunately injured, which was class from LFC. With him, we have to see how he gets on post his injury before deciding if he can get back to the level after his injury and then give him a new contract based on that. Lucas certainly deserves a new deal.


2.) 01 Nov 2015 12:13:14
I have watched a lot of under 21/18 games over the last couple of years and believe me Tex and Rossiter are real talents, Rossiter especially has a future in the game, I think that even Robbie Fowler is on record as saying when he first saw him play that he had just seen the next Steven Gerrard.


3.) 01 Nov 2015 13:29:01
Texeira and rossiter nothing to warrant contracts? How the hell do you come to that conclusion when Rodgers give neither games or a real chance? Klopp will give them games and see their actual talent.


4.) 01 Nov 2015 14:05:03
Al, try read my whole post before commenting. I said we need to wait and see how they get on THIS SEASON before giving them ridiculous long contracts, which will be difficult to rescind in the future. Nabil El Zhar's name comes to mind; he was given a huge contract and picked up big wages from LFC while we struggled to offload him because he wouldn't take a pay cut and frankly he wasn't that good enough. He too, like Rossiter and Tex, looked great for the reserves.

I have seen plenty of U21 and U18 games over the past 5-6 years, and while Rossiter and Tex are very good young player, the step up from the reserves to the senior team is immense. Nemeth, Pacheco, El Zhar, Insua, Darby, Spearing all were hyped up to be the next big thing, and guess what happened to them?

What you say makes little financial sense, and it's this sort of nonsense that got LFC under big debts in the first place under Benitez. So, let us just wait the season, and see how they get one before giving them big contracts because not everyone coming from the academy turn out to be Gerrard or Sterling.

As for what Robbie Fowler said, he is wrong when he says Rossiter looks like Gerrard because he is nothing like Gerrard, and surely you must have noticed that if you have watched the youth teams regularly.

{Ed001's Note - El Zhar never looked good and he was bought on a large contract to start with, not got awarded a huge one later.}


5.) 01 Nov 2015 14:22:37
Yes Ed001, but my point about El Zhar was about the potential pitfalls of offering long contracts to young players with the expectation that they will come good. He was also well thought of and a regular for the U21s/reserves.

With Tex, we see a transformation from those days under Rafa where long contracts and big money was used to lure talented young players into the club at reserves level. El Zhar was given a 5-year deal, and Tex was given a 3 and half year deal to bring them to the club.

Would you agree that we need wait, atleast this season before giving them longer contracts at LFC? I certainly think so, and we have seen the club moving towards being more prudent in these aspects.

{Ed001's Note - he was well thought of by one man, everyone else thought he was a mistake but he had the big contract so they had to try and get him playing well, hence why he was a regular.

I would prefer to see Teixeira given a contract extension now, just one year to give him the chance to prove himself this season. Should never let a player get less than 12 months on their contract without making a decision on them. Though we all know Rodgers wanted rid of Teixeira, hence why he was not given a contract.}


6.) 01 Nov 2015 15:41:04
A one year contract I agree with, but not a long contract like suggested.


 

 

15 Sep 2015 11:32:20
A thought.

During pre-season Rodgers made a comment along the lines of the team needing to be able to play both the "low block" and the "high press"

Does anyone think that once Allen, Lallana and Sturridge are fit we will revert to the latter?

The trio fit the high pressing system much better than the likes of Lucas, Ibe (who can adapt) and Benteke.

Combine that with Milner, Henderson and Firmino who most people will agree are individuals with boundless energy, and I think we will start seeing our "identity" come back.

AZ

1.) 15 Sep 2015 13:36:32
Are you suggesting that he will drop £32 million Benteke, £29 million Firmino and a central midfielder for Allen, Lallana and Sturridge? Sturridge should come in to the team, but no way should he be thinking of dropping Benteke yet.


2.) 15 Sep 2015 13:39:08
Sturridge doesn't fit the high press that well, neither does Allen as much as Henderson or Milner. Lallana does but so does firmino and coutinho demonstrated he can do it well against arsenal even though their back four basically handed it to us.


3.) 15 Sep 2015 13:39:08
even without the injuries we already have a team that can press.


4.) 15 Sep 2015 14:11:22
I can see why you might think that, but I don't believe it will happen.

I definitely think we'll go with a duo up top in Sturridge and Benteke, but it will probably be a 3-5-2 and play the same as last year.


5.) 15 Sep 2015 15:03:50
Let's be perfectly honest here, The 'High Press' worked because we had a player like Suarez who tortured teams with his relentless movement. (I think this is probably why Studge scored so many alongside him too) if you're going to 'Press' then you need to press from the front. We simply don't have that player now. I don't believe for a second that BR waved a magic wand and we were this high tempo Barca-esque team. It's purely down to what he inherited at the club. Namely Luis Suarez.


6.) 15 Sep 2015 15:55:58
I don't know who started it, but I never understood the actual meaning of high press and people crying loud out for it.

Swansea, Southampton. Arsenal teams that doesn't believe in high press instead they have a slow build up play and they play good football.


7.) 15 Sep 2015 16:50:40
Honestly think there's a fair chance he'll shift Sturridge wide (eventually- initially he'll sub for Benteke).


8.) 15 Sep 2015 14:11:09
I find it hillarious people are crying for the so called. "HIGH PRESS" Y are others perticularly Arsenal doesn't play the so called "HIGH PRESS"
Southampton and Swansea plays a slow build up football and has been very successful.

Are people confused with High Tempo and High press?
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where are they getting these words. ".High press. "

Could including Ed01, explain me what's wrong in Slow build up play if you could keep the ball well.

{Ed001's Note - Swansea do not play a slow build up, they shift it to the wingers quickly now. Not sure what that has to do with a press though. As for what is wrong with a slow build up, that is simple, it gives the opposition time to get in position.}


9.) 15 Sep 2015 18:44:35
Sturridge disagreed to being played out wide when Suarez was around, leading to Rodgers being forced to play the 4-4-2 diamond, though this time around, he appears even more rigid and seemingly want to stick with his favorite, but insipid 4-3-3 system. I am interested to see how this goes.


10.) 15 Sep 2015 18:57:29
Barca play the high press till this day for the success we now know of and so did we when we almost won the PL and when we went on that long unbeaten run last season (we crushed City playing that way) so we know it works, EG. Stop dragging other teams into this. N BTW, you must have never watched the Saints play because they play the high press and when we played them at St Mary`s, they pressed the living daylight out of us.


11.) 15 Sep 2015 19:09:03
Although he may not press as hard and fast as what Henderson and Milner do, I still feel Allen is the most intelligent presser in the squad. Saying that, and I agree slightly contradicting myself, I can see Allen being given the holding midfield role as if we do adopt the press, we need a player who can dictate play at the base. Although it may come across as slightly controversial, I feel Allen is actually the only playmaker in our side. Some may point to Coutinho but for me he is a "get the ball and create" player rather than actually understanding the game as such. That's not having a go at him because he is still our most influential player. But if we have a genuinely intelligent player behind him, who understands the game and is good on the ball, who unlike others I feel Allen is, I think the team would benefit. In the right system, where there is less space between the defenders and attackers, his small frame becomes less relevant and he can knit the play together.

And while I agree Sturridge is not the best presser, he does offer brilliant movement off the ball which is also a necessity of that pressing system.

Also to clarify on Firmino, my point was not to drop him. In actual fact I meant to say I think he can become a better player if we start pressing high than if we defend deep.

I agree we can't and won't drop Benteke nor should we based on his performances. I just meant to say, whilst his movement is adequate, I personally feel his best game is based on the ball coming into him rather than him going after the ball.

Cheers for all your replies.


12.) 15 Sep 2015 19:44:57
So what's the issue in keeping the ball at the feet Ed01?
They need a reason to bash him and ironically all they had wrong reason to bash a manager.

{Ed001's Note - what is this gibberish?}


13.) 15 Sep 2015 19:46:53
AG

For one last time there are around more than 50 top European clubs who plays the so called in effective 4-3-3 system with great in fact excellent success.

Another fact, the whole Italian teams last year played 3 at the back and they have some very good teams over there.

So don't bash someone because he plays 4-3-3. It's a tested and certified system.


14.) 15 Sep 2015 21:14:52
False, EG! AC Milan, Lazio, Roma, Samp, Inter, La Viola, Napoli, and Udinese and there are a lot more ( I watched all these teams play last season) and NONE of them played a 3-5-2. Even Juve, who have played a 3-5-2 since Conte, played a 442 diamond with Allegri. EG, you really need to stop making general statements because you sound like you`re just blowing hot air


 

 

19 Aug 2015 19:45:36
Keeping an eye on Rossiter this evening as I feel he will make a proper breakthrough this season if Lucas leaves and we don't sign a midfielder.

Things seen from the first half:

1) Most impressive in his defensive positioning - ie providing cover at CB when Ilori gets forward. Also doesn't vacate the central area too often cutting off Everton's chances to counter. He always checks around him to ensure he is in the right position and makes slight movements to cut off angles for the opposition passes when Liverpool aren't in possession. Only on 1 occasion did he get caught upfield from a Liverpool corner which resulted in an Everton Break.

2) Comfortable on the ball but playing more short passes rather than being too adventerous (much more tiki-taka from the U21s than the first team) Did make 1 really cutting edge pass which resulted in us hitting the post.

3) Loves a tackle - sometimes a bit too forceful but it is a derby so I'm not complaining too much!

4) Controlling the tempo of the game ie always making himself available for a pass.

Jose Enrique in the stands trying to learn a thing or too from Maguire. I don't think he was on twitter at the time though.

AZ

1.) 19 Aug 2015 20:35:43
Instagram I reckon AZ probably taking a picture of his meat and potato pie at half time!


2.) 19 Aug 2015 22:06:59
Would love to see Rossiter get a proper run in the 1. team.

Not sure it would happen though


3.) 19 Aug 2015 22:37:32
Given the final score and the time of your post (and good overview) - how was he in the second half?

I hope he gets his chance this season even if it is 35 games in the championship.


 

 

19 Aug 2015 19:22:46
Great finish by Texeira!

AZ

 

 

 

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01 Feb 2019 02:21:28
I still think Woodburn can be fantastic for us. He just needs to regain confidence. I think he is technically superb, a fantastic finisher and has great movement. Playing for a team with the right style of play is most important and I think scoring a few goals for the u23s for the rest of the season would be best. Who knows - if he picks up some form I could genuinely see him coming off the bench in some games during the run in.

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12 Jan 2019 04:46:56
Completely agree brommer. I think that would be ideal and ruthless for the club but useless for morenos own career progression.

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25 May 2018 01:32:20
It’s certainly looking promissing but could it be too many new options in midfield too fast with fekir, Keita and possibly ceballos? I think we will start the new season with 2 of our existing midfielders (Milner, Henderson and 1 more) and eventually bed the others in. I don’t think it would be until next Christmas that we will have a fully functioning ‘new’ midfield but I’m excited regardless!

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09 May 2018 02:22:03
Agree with ed33 - i imagine Sturridge origi lallana markvic and kent will be sold and 2 of Wilson Woodburn and Ojo will be loaned out. I also wouldn’t feel comfortable with fekir ings and ox on the wings so definitely in agreement with PowerLFc.

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31 Mar 2018 09:54:19
Oops! I’ve been in Thailand recently and I think Bangkok has got to me!

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29 Jul 2019 13:01:49
He'd be great backup to Harry Wilson to be fair.

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20 May 2019 05:46:04
Potential 2nd choice Right back next season?

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24 Jan 2019 12:31:49
Wijnaldum?

Hmm, tough crowd.

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20 Aug 2017 01:55:15
Even Heath Ledger would be proud of this.

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20 Jul 2017 05:42:48
Happy Tappy completely agree. The power and accuracy that Grujic gets behind his shots is insane.

AZ

{Ed025's Note - yeah your right guys...i dont know why you are after keita when you have that renowned super talented household name in grujic?..