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22 Jul 2022 10:58:38
Information time- liverpool have spoken about asensio and valverde to their agents.
Madrid might reduce asking price for asensio significantly.

I don't want us to sign asensio even on the cheap but valverde could be awesome. Though don't think madrid will sell him.


1.) 22 Jul 2022 11:56:54
Wonder why on asensio? Not sure where he would get a starting place. Only places up for grabs seem to be CM if someone comes in and makes a go of it.

Time will tell I guess thanks anyways :)

2.) 22 Jul 2022 12:04:16
Ed002 Told us weeks ago we approached Asensios agent so not sure there is anything else on it from initial talks. It would seem not at this stage.

3.) 22 Jul 2022 12:37:38
Asensio looks a player a few years ago.

4.) 22 Jul 2022 15:13:39
Do they just have same agents? No way will Madrid want to lose Valverde.

5.) 22 Jul 2022 16:19:16
I’d imagine the club approach many agents for many reasons during the window and the season .
For me asensio is not what we need nor what he needs to be fair.

6.) 22 Jul 2022 16:40:25
Thanks for the info.

7.) 22 Jul 2022 18:29:27
Is it from the same source that told you we was going to sign Lewandowski cos if it is don’t listen to them or keep away from Twitter.

8.) 22 Jul 2022 19:42:32
Confused why we would go for Asensio personally. We have quite a few attacking options, plus I don’t rate him at all.

9.) 22 Jul 2022 20:01:03
If akira or square tomato say something, it’s worth listening to. They’re nearly ed002 level.

10.) 22 Jul 2022 20:09:41
Lewandowski and Gakpo news?

11.) 22 Jul 2022 21:24:47
Akira and ST are the ed's *-)

12.) 22 Jul 2022 22:52:21
Nah I’m not having that one. Maybe as a punt if Salah had left or not signed but I don’t see either where he fits in nor how he improves us.

13.) 23 Jul 2022 05:20:35
Gakpo was recommended to us and interest still remains.

14.) 23 Jul 2022 07:04:49
He was also recommended to Leeds and Arsenal so it’s not really ITK talk just Twitter and media repeats you’re telling us.

15.) 23 Jul 2022 08:51:14
Not happening nothing to see here.

16.) 23 Jul 2022 10:27:58
Thanks for the information Akira
Please keep it up.

17.) 23 Jul 2022 05:48:40
Does anyone in the know if Gakpo offers a type / option that we do not have?
Unless Mo's contract was designed as a compromise, whilst accepting that he will move on in a season or two, anyone else wouldn't get much game time. Mo is rarely ever injured and can play most games each season.

18.) 24 Jul 2022 15:59:14
Gakpo is recommended to us and we were interested. Now mo has signed his extension might mean this has taken a backseat. It might come back on table if one of the forward departs.



30 May 2022 05:33:46
I told you mane is talking to two clubs.
My other two pieces of info are cody gakpo (excuse spell) and lewandowski.


1.) 30 May 2022 06:52:46
Lewa would be an insane signing. Hope we focus all efforts on him and that Barcelona cannot afford him.

2.) 30 May 2022 07:10:01
Hope you’re wrong on both counts, Gakpo looks like the new Ryan Babel (which is absolutely not a compliment) and Lewandowski is an old codger with not many miles left on the clock.

3.) 30 May 2022 07:17:47
Since nobody know anything anyway, i believe you buddy, just keep them coming. This is a rumour page and it's transfer season.

Any news for midfielders?

Thanks for the info, appreciate it. :)

4.) 30 May 2022 07:41:10
VVVV, that "old codger" just scored 50 goals in 46 games 😂

If we'd had him up front in that CL final we'd have treble right now.

5.) 30 May 2022 08:17:04
Remember when ManU bought van person for one season to win the title? And before you point out his age his injury record was way worse that Lewa’s.

Could be a stroke of genius remembering we have the quick players around him like he has at Bayern.

6.) 30 May 2022 08:33:20
Not to mention converted few of draws into wins and did the quadraple lol.

7.) 30 May 2022 08:37:52
It’s an interest question re Lewa - a couple of years ago I would have said our model doesn’t need a true CF as Mane and Salah would make the runs into the box and score goals, but one or potentially both likely to move on, and Firmino getting on a bit, I think we may need to revisit. Diaz style of play is much more like a traditional winger and a target man would perhaps make a lot of sense, especially if we also start to use Elliot more down the right.

8.) 30 May 2022 09:04:43
Agree with all 3 of you. Our current squad is brilliant. Best we've ever had in my lifetime. But Lewandowski is the best striker in the world and would walk into (and vastly improve) any side in world football.

Benzema at 34 just helped Madrid to La Liga and Champions league. Suarez at 35 helped AM to La Liga last year. Ibra at 40 and Giroud at 35 just helped Milan to Serie A. Messi at 34 helped PSG reclaim Ligue 1. Ronaldo at 37 carried Man United all season.

At what point will people start to realise that the age at which players retire or start winding down is not 30 anymore?

9.) 30 May 2022 09:06:41
Nice but this has been doing the rounds for a week on Reddit so hardly new news, Mane is off to whoever pays the most. Breaking!

10.) 30 May 2022 09:10:49
Not exactly been all over the internet for the last few weeks.

11.) 30 May 2022 09:08:47
Yeah I don’t prescribe to the age thing at all. He is still producing. I wouldn’t expect the same numbers here but I’d expect he would fit in seamlessly and that our attack would start to look more in sync around the box imo. We’ve always lacked that consistent cutting edge around the box and a target like Lewa could be a great signing.

12.) 30 May 2022 10:18:12
I wouldn't care if Lewandowski only played 1 season and there was 'no resale value'. The man is proven talent (50/ 46 last season) and more importantly, has played under and loves Klopp.

{Ed0666's Note - would he post outrageous figures in the premiership tho?

13.) 30 May 2022 10:22:09
£50m for a 34 year old is a hard pass. Sorry, it just is. We’re talking about a man in the last throws of his career. Scoring a truckload of goals in the Bundesliga is no guarantee that he’ll do it here either, Timo Werner, Jadon Sancho and Sebastian Haller are a testament to that. The premier league is faster and a more physically demanding league than Germany and he won’t have the time or space he had over there. If we’re going to blow £50m+ on a player at least make it one that has miles on the clock to be able to adjust and at 34 he’ll be physically declining fairly rapidly.

A reasonable comparison is with Lionel Messi, he moved to Paris at roughly a similar point in his career, scored 30 league goals the season before he moved, then scored a measly 6 goals in 26 games this season in a new league, and arguably France is a farmers league, given PSG’s dominance. That should spell a huge warning.

14.) 30 May 2022 10:35:42
Ed0666, his job would be to at least match Salah's output, so we would be asking him to reduce his output by about 15-20%. 20 Prem goals would be an almost guarantee with him.

{Ed0666's Note - there’s no way of knowing for certain mate.

15.) 30 May 2022 11:02:40
Messi had 11 goals and 14 assists in the league and Champions league. How dreadful 🤔

Also i agree the Bundesliga is a lower standard but that doesn't stop people thinking Haaland with a far inferior goal tally and serious injury concerns, will suddenly cope with the rigours and vigours of English football. Not to mention Lewandowski had 13 goals in 10 games in the Champions Leagur last season.

I don't think he'll average a goal a game in the Prem, but he won't go from 50 in 46 games to suddenly being poor.

In terms of physical decline, what physical aspect does he rely on? And where's the evidence he's declining physically? He's got better in his 30's and is never injured.

16.) 30 May 2022 11:13:57
Ed0666's, there's sensible conclusions we can make though. If Jota can get 21 goals with that type of service from Trent and Robbo, you can only imagine what Lewandowski would get. Trent would be in fecking heaven finally having that type of player to ping balls to.

17.) 30 May 2022 11:14:14
Will our press not suffer with him leading the line though?

18.) 30 May 2022 11:56:22
That is a much more reasonable concern in my opinion, aoe.

Although, teams have to actually try and play football for you to press them. Our current side will dominate possession more often than not and that is when a player like Lewandowski can make the difference. A half chance is all he needs and he could find a yard of space in a match box.

19.) 30 May 2022 12:12:26
Victor, where does £50m come from?!

I posted yesterday - sent to the discussion page - that a straight swap with Bayern would be a dream for me. See if the old master can cut it up with the young pretender in the premier league….

20.) 30 May 2022 13:18:50
VVVV, you might make it to being a 34 year old 'old codger' some day, if you're lucky.

21.) 30 May 2022 13:23:38
So VVVV would you prefer 50 million on a Keita instead? It likely won't even get a Bowen. Don't get why you're so worried bout resale value. Are you a fan or the club accountant? And comparing Lewa to sancho, werner and haller is scraping the barrel. Mane got 23 goals in 50 odd games this season. I can see even a 35 year old Lewa surpassing that tally.

22.) 30 May 2022 15:11:19
It's a touch naive to believe that an ageing Lewandowski would arrive rock at Liverpool and outscore Sadio Mane.
It's an interesting one though because he's proven quality through and through. But if we'd be paying £50 million for him at his age (which we won't be) it makes a mockery of £25-£30 million for Mane.
We definitely wouldn't be pressing from the from in the same fashion and that's a big feature of Klopp's play, so I can't see it happening.
You never know though.

23.) 30 May 2022 15:51:58
I think the club has graduated from the strict old rule of "buy to sell-on for a profit" of the early years. It may still be an intention, but with the purchase of Thiago, the extensions given to mid-career and end-career players and the players allowed to leave on a free, tells you that this is no longer the priority for the club. They may prefer younger players but the priority seems to be buying players that can make an immediate impact, plug the holes wherever they are seen, and hit the ground running. Lewandowski certainly seems plausible to me. And let's forget the 50 goals. If he can give us 25 goals, added to the goals from the rest of the attack, it's good enough for me. And he'd be a player that many of the others could learn what "winning" is all about, because he's been at it for the longest time.

24.) 30 May 2022 16:05:05
Not sure where the 50 million figure has come from? Its nowhere near what is being asked.

25.) 30 May 2022 17:29:11
Hey Akira, do you know what sort of money is being asked? You hit the nail on the head with the Diaz transfer and I'd love to see Lewa playing for us even at his age.

26.) 30 May 2022 17:57:25
Mane lewand swap it is then, surely wages will be an issue tho.

27.) 30 May 2022 18:03:04
Like the premier league is some almighty Division 😂
Robert Lewandowski would not struggle scoring goals against Leeds, Brentford and Southampton.
Your talking about a striker who has done it constantly in the UCL over the last 10 years. He’s not Lukaku haha.

28.) 30 May 2022 19:21:32
Was mentioned above that lewa would cost 50 mill+ no way would want us to pay that but if mane wants to go and being reported that Bayern are trying to get him on cheap then they can’t complain if we get lewa for a lot less than they want with him being in same situation as mane (1year left on contract) difference being lewa has publicly came out and said he wants to leave, mane hasn’t. on eds comment on how well he would do in prem, would you say any team outside the top 6 have better defences than the teams in the bundesliga? He scores goals (a lot of goals) ronaldo got 18 goals as a number 9 in a terrible team this season and he’s not a number 9. I reckon he could easily score at least as many as ronaldo (I would be surprised if it wasn’t more) . I will admit tho the concern would be that he can’t press the way klopp would want so although I think he would do well in the prem I don’t know if we are the best fit for him (or he is best fit for us) but if klopp could find a way to fit him in then he could still get 20-30 next season.

{Ed002's Note - You all seem to have created this whole strange scenario where Lewandowski and Jarry Kane are joining Mbappe and Haaland at Liverpool - and then getting in these weird discussions where it becomes clear you have no idea where transfers work.}



27 May 2022 13:05:38
Liverpool have contacted lewandowski.


1.) 27 May 2022 13:17:16
Your call on diaz was impressive but no way am I willing to believe we are going for lewendowski haha sorry mate.

2.) 27 May 2022 13:26:40
Does Klopp need help with his coffee machine?

3.) 27 May 2022 14:04:08
Klopp might have contacted him though, they are pretty close.
It doesn't mean that they discussed him rocking up at Liverpool, just that Klopp maybe phoned or messaged him.

4.) 27 May 2022 14:32:03
At 33 I think that’s far too old, he’ll be 34 this year, it’s a straight no for me. Specially as Bayern want a fee of nearly £50m.

5.) 27 May 2022 15:00:49
I think players like Ibrahimovic, Messi, Suarez, Modric, Thiago Silva and Ronaldo have all proven in recent years that the age at which the truly elite players are finished, is not like it once was. Lewandowski has another 3 years at this level. If there is even a shred of a chance we could sign him, we'd be mental not to. You're talking about the best forward in Europe over the last 3 seasons. I'll drive to Munich and fetch him FOC if Ward can pull off the transfer fee and his wages 👀.

6.) 27 May 2022 15:03:46
What do we want Lewandowski for, we have enough programme sellers already.

Just been on LBC Radio, French Police are expecting upwards of 40,000 Liverpool Supporters. They also report Paris is a Sea of Red everywhere.

7.) 27 May 2022 15:21:43
Keep saying it! It’s a mad world when 32/ 33 your old and finished!

8.) 27 May 2022 15:29:23
Mane and Lewa swap? 🤔😉.

9.) 27 May 2022 15:34:10
Mane to Bayern, Lewandowski to Liverpool?

10.) 27 May 2022 16:03:42
Mane reported as being in on the verge of joining Bayern and now Lewandowski to us. There might be something in this. Lewa is simply world class, even at 33 years old. I would take him in a heartbeat.

11.) 27 May 2022 15:56:29
Mane and Lewa swap would be wild!

12.) 27 May 2022 18:09:57
Sounds like tit for tat, considering Jurgens recent comments .

13.) 27 May 2022 18:42:19
So pay a nearly 34 year old probably more than Salah is looking and a £50 million transfer fee into the bargin? I have to say it doesn't make a lot of business sense or sense in general. Lewandoski's numbers are impressive indeed, in GERMANY! He certainly won't be getting close to that in the PL. If LFC are even actually considering Lewandoski (which i doubt) i wish they would put as much effort and money into keeping Salah, who in my opinion is the best forward in Europe and he's considerably younger. 👍.

14.) 27 May 2022 19:23:56
At 34 he has what? maybe two years left at the top? He will be losing pace during that time and takes longer to recover from injury. The transfer fee will be in excess of £50m and he’ll want the thick end of £350’000-£400’000 a week. There’s literally no value to be had. If we’re going for a centre forward let’s at least go for one with miles left on the clock, like Martinez or Nunez, not an injury prone carthorse like Kane or a bloke who is entering the twilight of his career like Lewandowski.

{Ed0666's Note - we’ll said mate

15.) 27 May 2022 19:24:47
Lol sure they have, come on Akira 1892 you can do better than that!

16.) 27 May 2022 22:49:01
I'd take sane for mane.

{Ed0666's Note - Kimmich?

17.) 27 May 2022 23:50:22
Mane is staying.

18.) 28 May 2022 00:06:34
Kimmich and we would have best midfield in the world.

19.) 28 May 2022 00:59:25
The thing i don't get is fans saying "we should sign a player with a lot of years left" but then often the same people are saying "we should sell {insert name} whilst his value is at his peak". So sign a younger player just to sell them in their prime?

Are we the accountants or the supporters? When Fergie signed Van Persie he knew he had 2 years left at best with his injury record. Still did it though because Fergie was a winner and winning one league title at the expense of £30m was more important to him than worrying about sell on value and spending his entire career in a perpetual cycle of transition.

I want to win trophies. If Lewandowski only gave us 2 years, so bloody what? He'll score 70-80 goals in 2 years and we'll probably clean up in terms of medals. If he is a realistic option and we turn it down to sign a 25 year old for €30m just to sell him in 4 years anyway, what is the point? Are we just here for the banter or do people want to actually try and go past Man City?

20.) 28 May 2022 01:55:30
It’s very risky getting players at the end of their career coming to the premier league. Lewa is a class act and has been in Germany for so long but the premier league is a different kettle off fish. Shevchenko to Chelsea springs to mind and why would pay silly wages on a 33-34 year old when we can pay mane who has shown his value again to Liverpool. All this talk off mane leaving is nonsense. He loves Liverpool and we love him.

21.) 28 May 2022 07:20:42
Man Utd were awash with money, Liverpool aren't. Back then they were the Man City of the Premier League. Whether you think fans should be accounts or not, some will consider the financial side of things. Lewandowski will not score 40 goals a season with Liverpool, especially in the PL were they try to defend unlike Germany.

22.) 28 May 2022 10:28:43
Lewa makes sense if there is no net outlay ie swap for Sadio. Esp. if latter has told the club, like Lewa has, that he will not be signing a new contract (as is now being reported by some) .

It gives us 1-2 years to bring in or develop the player we want long term.

23.) 28 May 2022 12:39:15
Totally agree with MK. Lewa is one of the best 5 players in the world and free of serious injury atm. If there's a chance we must take it. Sadly like Mbappe and Haaland doubt it. Only factor may be him missing Klopp.

24.) 29 May 2022 15:23:43
Lewa looks like he's off to Barca.



22 May 2022 04:28:12
Imminent- real haggling us for salah and we sticking to our guns. I hope we don't sell him for anything under 100million.


1.) 22 May 2022 07:20:21
What a tactic, just before the final.
They always have some sneaky advantage and another way of ensuring Salah is not on his best form.

2.) 22 May 2022 08:11:51
Salah is far from his best spaceman. And has been for months.

3.) 22 May 2022 08:40:09
Jurgen will deal with Salah the same way he dealt with Coutinho, Wijnaldum and Emre Chan who all wanted mega bucks, there's the door close it on the way out!

Jurgen's football philosophy is the "TEAM".

4.) 22 May 2022 08:51:28
This is going to completely unsettle him. They are sneaky F*$£@&.

5.) 22 May 2022 09:13:35
Maybe it would bolster his resolve, perhaps? You know, inspire Real to show them what they’re missing.

Besides, would it be possible to lose motivation to win a third or possibly fourth (and historic) trophy of the season - and arguably the biggest one at that? Not for all the sunshine in Spain is my bet!

6.) 22 May 2022 09:19:39
Why would anyone pay 100 million for Salah? He can leave for free in 12 months.

And why would Salah sign a new contract? He can go to the highest bidder in 12 months.

7.) 22 May 2022 10:31:13
Akira, we don’t hold any ace cards here. They know he can leave for free in 12 months time and we will get nothing. We’ve been here before with Owen and McManaman (Can and Wijnaldum were slightly different, in so much as no one was really interested in making an offer to buy them when they had 12 months left), when we took a lowball offer for Owen and had accepted a low ball offer for McManaman from Barcelona which he rejected a move for.

This is literally being stuck between a rock and a hard place, he knows he’ll have his pick of clubs in 12 months time and Madrid will have worked out that he doesn’t intend to renew so will low ball us. If the worst comes to worst I only hope we don’t accept any Real Madrid trash in part exchange. There isn’t any one of their players worth taking.

8.) 22 May 2022 10:53:43
I think Mo is a professional on the pitch, he will give his all. Off the pitch, he will be keen to add his accolades.

However, was having this conversation on Friday - should he be starting in the final? He's always a threat, and Real would be thinking about him all game, but should we not be going with our form players? Diaz, Mane, Jota?

9.) 22 May 2022 10:55:57
It would make sense for Madrid. Salah for three years to back in for Mbappe in 2025 when Mbappe is just 26.

10.) 22 May 2022 11:16:48
Surely all Liverpool have to say is they won’t speak to Real Madrid about any of our players until June or am I being too simplistic?

11.) 22 May 2022 11:39:56
Or maybe he turns them down like mbappe has just done. hopefully.

12.) 22 May 2022 12:38:37
Or maybe it's all just a rumour without a shred of truth behind it?

13.) 22 May 2022 12:40:09
If you took Salah's five penalty goals away from this season's tally so far, he would be three goals behind Son of Spurs whose total goals this season does not include any penalties.

14.) 22 May 2022 13:04:27
Would you want to be the so called best player in Europe but being 2nd choice behind mbappe?

15.) 22 May 2022 14:03:03
Salah was flying before the afcon disappointment. if it wasn't for that competition and then the world cup qualifications games straight after and the contract situation he'd be fine I reckon. And his goal tally would be far better than sons. The guy has been run into the ground and needs a decent rest. If your trying to say son is a better player than mo. forget it. Good luck to mo whatever he decides going forward. Grass isn't always greener. We've been here before. and it won't be the last time either.

16.) 22 May 2022 15:01:19
The terms PSG offered Mbappe are ludicrous if true (and I suspect they are true as they were desperate not to lose him on a free), £1m basic salary + bonuses, a say in which players PSG recruit, a say in who they recruit as manager, a veto over who gets picked in the starting 11. They’re on cue to create a Messi type monster.

17.) 22 May 2022 18:58:28
VVVV, this is becoming all the more and more insane. They have already created a monster. What will his next club offer him? 2 Million per week? This is obscene and a serious reason to stop watching the game.

18.) 23 May 2022 00:43:30
Completely with you aray1969 these type of deals are pushing me further away from the game now.

In terms of money it's nothing short of a Jurgen klopp miracle that we are able to keep tabs on the likes of city who can just splash when they like. Wages will just keep going up and up and the only teams that'll be soon able to afford them are the likes of psg and city no matter what way its painted.

Something seriously needs done about it but nothing will. Isn't the uefa president best mates with the psg president or something along those lines? Says it all really.

19.) 23 May 2022 09:34:00
If he and Mane both end up leaving this summer, at least one is going to need replacing with a PL proven player.
Mo makes sense for Real, sure. He is a consummate pro, He would be past his peak by the time Mbappe joins, and would be an excellent role model and teacher for the young players . Plus its his dream. Beyond all that though, what a way to unsettle just before the final.
Real seem to always have advantages on their side.
We need a miracle to beat them next weekend, we look shot.

20.) 23 May 2022 10:48:13
Spaceman we will need to bring in at least two attacking players with good track records of fitness and scoring regularly at a decent level if Mane and Salah both leave as Divock is gone, Minamino is very likely to go as well. Leaving us very short in attacking options (Diaz, Jota, Carvalho and Firmino), and we have to get it right as well because Mane and Salah are worth around 50 goals a season in the league.

21.) 23 May 2022 18:23:14
£1 million per week. One Trevor Francis. A week. Madness.

22.) 22 May 2022 18:29:31
PSG are in real trouble if the Mbappe rumors are true. Building a squad is a very complex and coordinated process with many involved. So their football people are going to do all sorts of work to have this guy just overrule or impose decisions on them. There is no way they don't become completely dysfunctional.



19 May 2022 09:06:45
Origi is off to milan. Certified club legend.
One final winning goal in the CL final plz.


1.) 19 May 2022 09:11:23
I best get thinking on who will replace him as a cult hero. He has provided us many memorable moments and I think he will do very well in Milan. I reckon he grabs one against Wolves, hopefully we have the game well wrapped up so he can get 30 mins and enjoy the reception he deserves.

2.) 19 May 2022 10:51:58
Kostas Tsimikas for me. Likeable guy, very able deputy to Robbo and scored a cup winning pen already.

3.) 19 May 2022 11:35:25
Taki has to be worth a shout. He has only played about 10 minutes all season and is our top scorer in the domestic cups. Seems like a decent guy, rocks up, puts in a shift and then waits for about 20 matches for his next 2 minute cameo.




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16 Aug 2022 05:56:13
I expect a very slow start. These players are miles off the pace and i expect few more injuries to pop up.
Also i mean come on Nunez, can't be missing sitters like those and topping it with a red. A nightmare home debut. Hope he can shrug this off.


1.) 16 Aug 2022 08:36:49
Nunez had poor service last night. The red card, although massively stupid of him to react, was a bit soft and owed more to a massive bit of play acting by the Palace player than anything else. Was handbags at best.



16 Jul 2022 05:35:45
I am not happy with the team as it is. It was a big long season last one. There hasn’t been enough break. This will be a long big season too.
We haven’t won enough big trophies and we are just always very close but not over the line. 2 CLs final and 2 premier leagues by a point. I remain optimistic about this season but i still feel in comparison to city we lack two big quality signings.
City are stronger specially now that sterling has left them so they will less chances missed and loose less balls.
We have hopes on our first 11 but when it comes to rotation players like keita ox matip etc won't cut it and our youth isn’t yet tested yet and i don't straight up want to throw them into thick of things.
Teams around will strengthen.
We should add a couple of big players and for word really i can't understand how we will not sign a midfielder this year esp given we were really in for that french kid.
I hope we pull in the mother of all transfers and somehow land declan rice. I believe he can be a natural successor to hendo in a couple of years.


1.) 16 Jul 2022 07:09:08
And it will be "2 big" signings next year and so on!

The facts are - city will always be 2 or 3 signings better off than us. We just need to compete where we realistically can.

1. Youth Development
2. Team ethics and culture
3. Support with red tinted glasses.

2.) 16 Jul 2022 07:36:41
Akira I can’t agree with hardly any of that Jude will be Henderson replacement. As for Sterling going making City stronger that makes no sense at all. If I was a city fan I would rather have Sterling on the left over Grealish or Foden is goal output is a lot better than them two. As for last season we lost the league by one point city had lots of var help with that and am sure if villa’s keeper had not been injured for the last game he does not let them 3 goals in. Champions league final was played another 10 times we win them all just like if city played Real 10 times again they would have won them all. VVD will be a lot better this season as it took him till the new year to get back to his best. Elliott will be like a new signing in midfield and with him and Carvalho if the first two games of preseason are to go by they are going to be flying I see the and Jones rotating with Henderson Fabinho Thiago being 2 from 3 most games with Naby’s game time down greatly unless he turns things round massively what I don’t see happening. As for are forward line it was only after the AFCON when Mane went through the middle that his form picked up and am sure most people would start Diaz of Mane on the left and I think Nunez will score more goal than Mane would through the middle as he is a more natural finisher.
So I for one am very excited for the new season.

{Ed025's Note - rather have sterling than foden grino??, city got lots of help from VAR well thats the pot calling the kettle, and nunez to score more than mane? the jury is still out on that one, i know its very hot weather mate but you may need a wider brimmed hat as it seems to be affecting your judgement.. :)

3.) 16 Jul 2022 07:44:51
Sterling wasn't exactly a prime starter for City, so him leaving makes zero difference really. Still a long way to go in the transfer window and the 'long season' you're talking about is the same for all the other 19 teams. At the end of the day, whoever finished with most points will win and I have a feeling we will be right up there again. The key for me is that we ha e to start taking points of City when we play them.

4.) 16 Jul 2022 08:10:52
I think if Haaland clicks early then City win the league easily, if not who knows?

5.) 16 Jul 2022 08:20:37
Akira. thanks for the cheerful message and prediction mate. I look forward to seeing how wrong you are at the end of the season. In reality city were lucky to win the league last season, dubious decisions got them across the line and we were 1 point behind them. Let us see what happens b4 you write the lads off.

6.) 16 Jul 2022 08:24:38
The Villa keeper wasn’t injured he asked not to play in the last game so he could be ready for an international friendly against Italy 11 days later.

Grino there’s a lot of ifs and buts in your comment mate. Very similar to if my uncle Mike was born with breasts then he would have been my auntie Michelle.

7.) 16 Jul 2022 08:31:49
All banking on Jude what if he breaks his leg last game of the season?
What if we have a mare of a season and no champions league?
What if he says I’ve changed my mind I want city etc?
Get him now or who ever else in!

8.) 16 Jul 2022 09:22:22
Klopp doesn't think that way though. He wants Bellingham, Bellingham wants us and he's willing to wait for him like he did with VVD! He has faith in this squad of near quadruple winners and he's a fairly decent manager. By the way Harvey Elliott seems to be absolutely flying, seems as he got injured right at the start of last season we are already stronger there with him an Carvalho.

9.) 16 Jul 2022 09:35:41
We need to sign somebody or we're doomed!
Transfer fever at its finest.

10.) 16 Jul 2022 12:42:48
@Jadon, hoe long have you been counselling Klopp? You seem sure that you know how he thinks - you could make millions selling the info to Guardiola or Tuchel.

11.) 16 Jul 2022 13:12:16
I’d say we’re only one addition away from a near perfect squad in terms of both quality and number. If we could move Naby and Ox on and find a reliable replacement I think we’d be there.

Honestly, I don’t tend to care what City do in the market. We only play them twice in the league anyway.

Admittedly, we do need to beat them when they come to Anfield but otherwise it’s about consistently beating the rest, who have not remotely closed the gap.

Thiago’s availability, or lack of it, correlated with our dropped league points. That’s the issue we need to resolve.

12.) 16 Jul 2022 13:27:19
Surely with the stick Naby gets just moving him on would give us that perfect squad.

Naby YNWA and all that.

13.) 16 Jul 2022 11:43:03
Ed025 yeah city did get some massive var decisions the handball against you the handball against Wolves and the penalty decision in the Arsenal game Ed.
As for Foden his a good player but massively overrated because his English his goals and assists record is not great playing where he does in that city team. And as for Nunez if Jota can score that amount of goals for us Nunez will score a lot more Ed from what I see of him at the game at Anfield and over there he is a more natural finisher than anybody in are team last season.

{Ed025's Note - i will take your word for that grino mate..

14.) 16 Jul 2022 15:18:52
If you see a lot of bundesliga and especially dortmund you shouod know why we should steer clear off bellingham and especially at the price he is going to set us back by.
Just because he is young and uses his body well he does somewhat ok in the bundesliga. The game passes him by more often than not and he isn’t particularly a great presser. I cannot see how he becomes jurgens top priority next season.
He can make him into a good player. But declan is already near that world class level and he is among the best in premier league. Risk wise declan is far less risk for me. I just hope city don't buy him.

Also we need to win trophies. This is our golden period the best team we have had in 30 years and arguably the best team ever we have had. And we have not much to show for it.
We could have had 3 titles and 3 CLs but we were just that 1 or 2 quality player short i feel.
I donot undermine what we have achieved but some of you here feel we have done it on a thin budget, which is far from truth, so if we need those couple of signings to get the trophies we should do that.
There is no fun in being second by one point and then saying oh city spend so much every year.

15.) 16 Jul 2022 16:24:29
I reckon now he's ticked the FA Cup and Caraboa cup of the list of things to win, Klopp will revert to using the young uns and non-regulars, trying to keep the main players focused on Premier League and Champions League. so they won't be expected to play as many games this season.

16.) 16 Jul 2022 17:00:35
Last season we were written off. We all know how that ended. Personally I think our squad going into this season is better than the last. Elliott a year older, Thiago found his rhythm, Konate second season, back up for Trent, more attacking options, etc. etc. My concern is injuries to the mids hence I'd have liked one to come in. Will Jones step up? We'll find out soon enough.

17.) 16 Jul 2022 17:57:30
I think those banking on is signing Bellingham are going to be very disappointed. There’s a rumour that City are clearing the decks to make a big money bid and blow anyone else out the water. Hence the reason they’re quite happy to sell Bernardo Silva to Barca.

18.) 16 Jul 2022 19:53:00
What a skeptical, negative post. We all want success but we have to do it our way. We can’t compete with City financially, we’d bankrupt ourselves trying. Titles are a bonus not a right. I’ve been a Liverpool fan a reasonable amount of time now. Remember the days of 6th and 7th place finishes, having N’gog as our only striker and Djimi Traore as our left back? Not to mention the summer transfer window of the Hodgson era. I’ll take our current squad any day of the week. There’s no shame in losing the title by a point or a Champions League by one goal. No one gave us a chance at the start of last season. We’re competing and in with a chance and that’s all any team can ask.

19.) 17 Jul 2022 07:16:24
“We could have had 3 titles and 3 CLs but we were just that 1 or 2 quality player short i feel. ”

Firstly we lost one final as our best player went off injured and our goalkeeper suddenly forgot what his job was. Secondly we lost the other final because we couldn’t finish our dinner in a game we dominated. So no, we didn’t lose either game because we where especially short on quality.

As for the two Premier Leagues we lost one on 97 points which is frankly absurd and the other on we lost on 92 points. Man United have never won a title with figures like those. The lauded invincibles didn’t either. Just accept we are competing with a juggernaut and we have lost twice on the tinniest of margins both times.

20.) 17 Jul 2022 10:04:59
Sterling is a better forward than Foden comfortably in my opinion. If Foden is ever scoring 20+ a season, I reserve the right to revise that statement (Foden is very young after all) .

I know Sterling isn't a very popular person but you can't deny his quality. In the last 6 seasons he outstripped Mane for Goals/ Assists playing the same positions in a similar strength side. Average players don't do that. Foden is barely hitting Firmino-esq numbers yet. He's massively over rated as things stand. Sterling is a huge loss for them. Him and Gundogan changed the game against Villa to snatch the title away from us.

21.) 17 Jul 2022 20:09:57
OP, I guess negativity sells, based on the responses to your post which IMO, was more of a whind up than anything else based on its lack of logic in lack of cohesion overall.

22.) 17 Jul 2022 20:09:57
OP, I guess negativity sells, based on the responses to your post which IMO, was more of a whind up than anything else based on its lack of logic in lack of cohesion overall.



11 May 2022 05:34:18
Wolves and west.


1.) 11 May 2022 07:17:03
The rest of that sentence goes. nil, Manchester City five.

2.) 11 May 2022 07:25:59
To be honest I was impressed with Villas effort levels last night. If they play like that against City the last game of the season then City could have a tough afternoon.

3.) 11 May 2022 07:35:01
Even more to the point we seem to have gone back to not playing particularly well but still getting results. Almost always a positive but we will need to play considerably better than that if we are to get a result in either upcoming finals.

4.) 11 May 2022 08:14:41
Westwood666 you are totally right. Not played well these last few weeks, infact have been distinctly average but got the job done. And ilon Saturday im not sure we will need to be more than we have been recently to win as Chelsea have been as poor. But would love a win with a dynamic performance to take momentum in to the CL final. We can't be average against Madrid.

5.) 11 May 2022 08:22:44
Villa would play the same way and with intensity but city will spank them.



03 Apr 2022 07:32:11
Ed001 where art thou mate? Its a smacking month of April. If we do the quadruple there has to be a super celebration planned on this site pretty please!


{Ed001's Note - if we do the quadruple you are right we would have to come up with something!}

1.) 03 Apr 2022 08:28:01
On that note, any thoughts on a site wide catch up/ charity gootball match?

{Ed001's Note - could be a good idea, there is certainly a need for charity right now for places like Ukraine and Palestine.}

2.) 03 Apr 2022 08:34:08
Yes, we should all go the pub and celebrate.

Have pubs in various locations around the globe and we make a pilgrimage to pay tribute to what will be an historic achievement.

There have been some tough days on here and it would be great to remedy that with outpourings of utter joy.

I remember the Fagan treble and then the team from down the roads treble. I never thought either achievement would be equalled, let alone surpassed.

However, Man City can still do the treble. Technically so can Chelsea, although the league looks improbable for them right now. So let’s enjoy the ride, it’s going to be bumpy!

3.) 03 Apr 2022 08:54:13
I think there would be a lot of support for something like that Ed, particularly after the last 2 years. We can even let Harry wear his City shirt for the match.

{Ed001's Note - good idea.}

4.) 03 Apr 2022 09:16:21
I really hope we win the league more than anything else. The Title we won felt hollow and we could barely celebrate because of all that was going on. It didn't help that we knew we would win it for about 6 months before it actually was won either. It was even longer until the trophy was lifted in an empty stadium. Obviously it was still great but i just feel we were robbed of the full emotional package that winning the league should bring. I'll happily take winning the league on the last day of the season at a packed Anfield please!

5.) 03 Apr 2022 10:49:17
Same MK. I can't wait to celebrate if we do win that league. If we do it I think it will rank as one of the best ever. Big if though.

6.) 03 Apr 2022 11:01:52
Couldn’t agree more on the league. After 30 years of wait the way we won it and couldn’t celebrate left a little sour taste. The players, the manager, all the staff and especially the fans are owed that open top bus parade with the Premier League title.

7.) 03 Apr 2022 12:35:42
If we win all four I can’t imagine how packed Liverpool would be on the parade people will travel from all over the world. Probably would be the biggest party ever. And if Everton go down they would stay indoors to make space for the hoards. We can dream but I would be happy with just the league and champions league not much to ask!



25 Feb 2022 08:10:34
Give matip a lifetime deal. He gels the whole team.


1.) 25 Feb 2022 09:50:41
Until he gets another injury.

2.) 25 Feb 2022 10:20:07
He's criminally under rated. His runs from deep force teams out of shape trying to close him down. Leeds had no answer for him yesterday. And when Virgil played Alisson in to trouble, Matip was there to mop up and prevent James having a tap in.

For me he is comfortably our 2nd best centre back. Konate and Gomez have a long way to go before they force him out the team despite being decent for their relatively young ages. I just pray Matip stays fit as that's held him back from reaching his potential alongside Virgil. His 21 league appearances this season are 2 more than he managed in the last couple of seasons combined (10 and 9).

So whilst i'd love him to stay, we also have to be sensible because of his age and injury record. As in, don't just throw money at him. An incentive/ bonus based contract would be more sensible as he moves into his 30's.

3.) 25 Feb 2022 11:51:50
Did you see the disallowed Leeds goal @MK? Matip charging high up trying to poke Daniel James who fooled him with a nice flick and then he ran at Allison while Matip crawling back to outrace James. Embarrassing.
He is easily one of the most overrated player I have ever seen.
He is Positionally crap and has no pace to play a high line. Period.

4.) 25 Feb 2022 11:53:29
"Virgil played Allison into trouble"? I'm all for constructive criticism but no way no how is that Virgil's "mistake". That's all the keepers own doing.

5.) 25 Feb 2022 12:27:08
Hmmm wonder who knows best. Posters or Klopp who seems to prefer him most games…if he was crap would Klopp do that? Are you saying he is a poor judge of a football player? The mind boggles sometimes….

6.) 25 Feb 2022 12:31:45
Harry always enjoy reading your comments mate even though I very rarely agree with them.

Again on this one I’ll take Klopps judgement on Matip and his choice to continually pick him.

7.) 25 Feb 2022 13:44:45
What rubbish, Transition.

8.) 25 Feb 2022 14:54:09
Yet Matip is part of a defence that has been very good this season and close to water tight over the last month or so.

You don't come of with some crackers Harry. Maybe it was just down to the other 3 defenders?

9.) 25 Feb 2022 14:56:03
Gandalf, rubbish but always consistent. 😉.

10.) 25 Feb 2022 14:56:43
Age is less important tho at CB than maybe other positions in the team. For.

11.) 25 Feb 2022 16:04:54
Irish we did win a CL and Premier league with only 2 out of 3 midfielders with Gini missing 🙄.

12.) 25 Feb 2022 23:19:50
I agree MK Matip is one of the most underrated players in the league even by his own fans sometimes.
I hear people rave about Diaz, Laporte or Rudiger but Matip is never mentioned in the same class when he holds down a place in one of the best defences in Europe. Baffling.
VVD is immense we know that but he doesn’t do it all on his own with a 3 legged donkey next to him.

13.) 25 Feb 2022 23:28:28
I will add to my last comment too. I’m sick of hearing how much we missed VVD last season and it cost us 6 defeats at home etc etc.
In actual fact we were top of the league at the end of December and had just smashed Palace 7-0 without VVD since October and without Gomez from 2 weeks after VVD got injured.
Matip got injured against West Brom and that started our free fall.
Coincidence? I don’t think so.

14.) 26 Feb 2022 00:56:47
Agree 100% Beckers Peckers.

15.) 26 Feb 2022 01:57:39
Matip is Klopp's first choice alongside VVD. I like Matip but I know he has flaws. Klopp continues to give Keita chances but I know he has flaws.
I realise that Klopp knows what he is doing, let him get on with it and get behind the team. Flaws and all.
Klopp is doing his job brilliantly despite our flaws.
The search for perfection is futile and the tenure of Jurgen Norbert Klopp has been wonderful.
Leave him to it and enjoy it while it lasts.

16.) 26 Feb 2022 04:15:04
Matip was our best defender for the first half of the season. Virgil getting his stride again. Horses for courses. Konate doesn't deal well with runners off the shoulder or in behind. Matip gets lost in the 10's. Gereat options to have either way when you include gomez. Best overall defence we have had in a long long time.




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24 Jul 2022 15:59:14
Gakpo is recommended to us and we were interested. Now mo has signed his extension might mean this has taken a backseat. It might come back on table if one of the forward departs.




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23 Jul 2022 05:20:35
Gakpo was recommended to us and interest still remains.




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25 Jun 2022 08:44:02
Donot rule out Juventus in this move. It will drag but Salah can leave before the window ends. There is a push from Liverpool to see to that effect.




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21 Jun 2022 03:46:55
Salah might still leave this summer, as Liverpool are open to a move. Don’t count that out.
Also we are still in for gakpo.




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04 Jun 2022 03:53:45
There is no sell on.





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11 Aug 2022 07:58:07
You have to admit that this is our golden period and we have a golden team. Our best team in decades has coincided with cities dominance.
We could have won 3 PL titles and 3CLs and just have one of each. Its a little heartbreaking. Especially as we were just so close to it. City and real trumped us both times and its a little disappointing to having to come to terms with that.
If Klopp leaves us with just 1 of each trophy i think that is a major under achievement.
So if something can be done to cover that gap even if it is 1 point you can't blame fans for crying out loud for it.
I personally fell we need a defender better than konate gomes or matip and boy i would have loved koulibaly. Others feel it is a midfielder we need.
And that's just how it is.
Fully appreciate what we have achieved but can't help but think it could have been so much more.


{Ed001's Note - Koulibaly? He is no better than Konate and is 31, reliant on power and pace and lacks positional sense. No thank you. Far too erratic and inconsistent a player most weeks.}



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23 Jul 2022 18:56:36
Arsenal will be arsenal. They haven’t strengthened one bit.




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19 Jul 2022 16:11:11
He is a unnecessarily expensive signing though. We did not need a striker as such.




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16 Jul 2022 15:18:52
If you see a lot of bundesliga and especially dortmund you shouod know why we should steer clear off bellingham and especially at the price he is going to set us back by.
Just because he is young and uses his body well he does somewhat ok in the bundesliga. The game passes him by more often than not and he isn’t particularly a great presser. I cannot see how he becomes jurgens top priority next season.
He can make him into a good player. But declan is already near that world class level and he is among the best in premier league. Risk wise declan is far less risk for me. I just hope city don't buy him.

Also we need to win trophies. This is our golden period the best team we have had in 30 years and arguably the best team ever we have had. And we have not much to show for it.
We could have had 3 titles and 3 CLs but we were just that 1 or 2 quality player short i feel.
I donot undermine what we have achieved but some of you here feel we have done it on a thin budget, which is far from truth, so if we need those couple of signings to get the trophies we should do that.
There is no fun in being second by one point and then saying oh city spend so much every year.




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05 Jul 2022 05:36:36
Trepidation, where did you learn that from 666?


{Ed0666's Note - watching Liverpool the last 50 odd years