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05 Oct 2023
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1.) 05 Oct 2023 09:39:00
You should not believe all you see - clearly fake.


2.) 05 Oct 2023 10:14:17
Mark Halsey (1999 - 2013)
He aged really badly for a 14 year old.


3.) 05 Oct 2023 10:56:24
Well sobsnewcastle, I’ve just read an article in the independent from 2016, one of several from various outlets where that quote was used. It was after aguero had been retrospectively banned just before the Manchester derby where retrospectives can only be brought in if things aren’t mentioned in referees match reports.

I wish club bias would stop clouding peoples judgement on football issues. This isn’t about Liverpool, per se. There is nothing transparent about how football is run.


4.) 05 Oct 2023 11:36:25
@QV, Mark Halsey had already mentioned something like this years ago, maybe not in these words.

Clattenberg (now, this I DO remember) blatantly mentioned that he was so scared of getting smoke from Fergie at OT that he deliberately would not award decisions up to and including penalties to opposing teams. But like you said, since misery loves company, tribalism will prevent accountability cos some fans are literally too triggered to do what is best for the integrity of the game.

And for fans of clubs ho don't win anything nor compete for anything, they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are. Misery loves company, I guess.


5.) 05 Oct 2023 12:16:25
So Man City get crap calls as well? So all the refs aren’t in the UAE’s pockets then?.


6.) 05 Oct 2023 12:19:03
Ironically enough there have been plenty of awful VAR decisions against other clubs but I haven’t seen the Liverpool up in arms as they have this week.


7.) 05 Oct 2023 12:19:17
Yup, seems its all about whataboutery for other fans. It’s extremely myopic to think that only liverpool would be so aggrieved at the circumstances surrounding that match and specifically, that “mistake”.


8.) 05 Oct 2023 12:49:41
This attitude of 'it happens to other clubs we should move on' is exactly why things will not improve.
I personally don't care it happened to Liverpool as such, but more the fact that such an obvious and clear cut decision was missed. Was it corruption? Who knows. The point is, mistakes like that should not be happening in this day and age. We have the technology and resources to completely rule out mistakes for offside.
The fact that this has happened and is quietly being brushed under carpet is embarrassing. Football fans as a collective should be questioning why this was allowed to happen, regardless of which club it was against.


9.) 05 Oct 2023 12:53:03
One part of me really wants that Mark Halsey quote to be fake. If not, then the past 20 years or so of Premier League football has been a sham. How many teams lost out on prize money or were even relegated because of consciously-manufactured decisions. Its horrendous.


10.) 05 Oct 2023 13:35:16
I would add to that, we had 2 incorrect red cards in the game too but you’ll notice we are not ‘up in arms’ as you put it about those. That’s because all teams get bad decisions go for and against them it’s part of the game.

That goal though is akin to a ref giving a red card and the VAR saying no there was no contact but the ref sending him off anyway.

It’s not a mistake, it’s not following the most basic rules of the game! If you get the ball in the opponents goal legally, you get a goal next to your team name on the scoresheet!

This is not Liverpool fans kicking up a stink about a bad VAR call this is the officials robbing us of points due to them not following the rules.

We can’t do anything about the red cards and rightly so but we do deserve some recompense for the officials confirming we scored a goal but not putting it on the scoresheet!


11.) 05 Oct 2023 14:03:03
Spot on, BP and QV. Oh and anyone still thinking that this was all a big mistake are acting like the keystone cops in the VAR audio as in, not knowing what that football they are talking about.

That was not an honest mistake. Me forgeting where I put my keys, is an honest mistake. That was gross negligence hiding in plain sight. The fact that none of these VAR suckers knew what the on-field decision was from jump, was the first red flag. Then, they proceed to arrogantly double down by checking for what actually did NOT happen and said "Check complete".

It was not for the replay operator (prolly an intern in some other building) who clocked that the on pitch decision was onside and all you heard from the VAR England was "What? " meaning, he didn't know what he was checking for the whole time. And still they doubled down on stupid even after "Oli" the head of the VAR hub, tells England to stop the game.

But don't mind me. This was all a huge mistake and a simple misunderstanding and lack of communication. Happens all the time, right?


12.) 05 Oct 2023 14:42:25
The fact that this particular incident doesn’t happen all the time actually tells me it was a huge mistake.


13.) 05 Oct 2023 15:06:12
@IR, deliberately refusing to do the right thing after realising that you had made an actual mistake and despite everyone including your superior and head of the VAR hub essentially screaming at you to break protocol and stop the game so as to get the right decision, is not a mistake. That is gross negligence.

Also the fact that the VAR was more concerned about what Howard Webb would do to him for breaking protocol rather than do all that was necessary to get to the right call hence, uphold the integrity of the game was a choice England made. Nobody made it for him. He did that all on his own. Again, not a mistake but again, gross negligence. I can keep going but I think you get the picture. Peace and Love.


14.) 05 Oct 2023 15:06:13
Why does it tell you that, Irish? From where I’m standing, the whole thing stinks a whole lot worse after the audio release than it did prior. I simply refuse to accept that disallowed goal was nothing more than ‘human error’.


15.) 05 Oct 2023 15:39:17
I think the first few lines of the Halsey meme are factual regarding Aguero incident but the rest is fiction.

I also love that Liverpool are the only club to stand up against authority. Other clubs protest too but rarely at the authorities.

Man Utd and Neville in particular appear to protest against the Glazers on a weekly basis. What a waste of time that is! Those guys are never selling that cash cow until it is fully depleted of resources.


16.) 05 Oct 2023 15:52:07
great post Oli, gross negligence indeed, you would think it was the first time that the VAR team had to make a call, it was a joke of an effort .
Spurs did nothing wrong, apart from a couple of players throwing themselves to the ground looking for a free kick and waving that yellow card, so really they should keep their 3 points .
as for Liverpool, they should give us that goal back, which they robbed from us, and we get a point .
I would be happy then .
plus massive improvements in the VAR rule book and protocol .

{Ed002's Note - Obviously that is not an option.}


17.) 05 Oct 2023 16:01:29
Regardless. I just think NOW is the time to take a stand. We all know very well that life is full of greys, but sometimes you just have to choose between the white or the black. If enough people would stand-up and say that we're not accepting this, it would get noticed, and action would be taken.

No corruption? Fine, for now, I'll give you that. But there was clear incompetence at the bare minimum. Why is that acceptable? The mood on this board is that corruption is inexcusable but incompetence is okay and we should move on. Continue wading around in that grey area which is everyone's "comfort zone"? Let it go until the next time.

Players are punished for misdeeds and even heavily. Managers are punished for misdeeds and that too heavily. Referees and their association are exempt. Free from excessive scrutiny or any punishment. Because we know that money, and the greed for it, is good only for players and managers and what not. No way ever, that referees could possibly be tainted with greed for money, right?


18.) 05 Oct 2023 16:15:36
Well at least if it is incompetent then that’s the starting point . Fix it so it doesn’t happen again. I’m pretty sure there will be a way but some posters want this guy sacked. Did Suarez get the boot after all he has done, and many more footballers that have done a lot worse? Of course the guy should receive some form of punishment and retraining into the bargain . Some guys are out for blood tho.


19.) 05 Oct 2023 16:25:48
But Kop that the whole narrative that Spurs did nothing wrong is irrelevant.

Strictly speaking they didn’t do anything wrong but neither did Liverpool so why should Spurs get all of the benefit from it whilst Liverpool take all of the consequences?

Like I’ve said a million times this is not a bad VAR decision. This is a complete breakdown of the officiating of a football match which has resulted in one team getting an unfair advantage.

Spurs should be equally appalled by what happened as we are as they were involved too. The fact that they can sit there in silence counting their 3 points is quite frankly disgusting.


20.) 05 Oct 2023 16:58:49
I guarantee you now BP that if the shoe was on the other foot Liverpool fans would be doing the exact same. If you think yourself and countless others would be asking for a replay then you’re delusional. Plenty would laugh and mock Spurs, others would come off with “these decisions equal out over a season” and next to no one would be advocating a replay.


21.) 05 Oct 2023 17:25:31
I’m not talking about fans Irish. As fans we are obviously only interested in our own team and tribalism takes over.

I’m more talking about Spurs as a club. As a Premier League football club surely you have a duty of care to fairness and sportsmanship in the game. Obviously Spurs would rather just take the 3 points however they get them and say it happens to all clubs it’ll even itself out.

Everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that this wasn’t just another VAR error. It’s an unprecedented situation but due to the tribalism between fans they will all point to decisions that haven’t gone their way as if it’s the same thing.

The reality is that not one team in the history of football has scored a goal that’s been confirmed as a goal by the relevant official, whether it be VAR or the ref before VAR, yet not got a goal against their name on the scoreboard.

It’s the most basic rule of the game, the team who scores the most goals wins. In this game that rule wasn’t followed which means there has to be recompense for the injured party.


22.) 05 Oct 2023 17:50:40
I take your point BP, plus we had two players booked with a red card thrown in, a really good goal not given to us, VAR was a mess and not fit for purpose. I am not sure what the best outcome is.


23.) 05 Oct 2023 17:53:12
I would not have asked for a replay had we been in the position Spurs were in as the beneficiary. Nor am I asking for a replay now in our position as the victim. Replays are a non starter, IMO.


24.) 05 Oct 2023 18:09:15
BP, I’ll be honest mate. I don’t Liverpool FC would be championing for a replay either.


25.) 05 Oct 2023 17:46:26
But Ed002 what the VAR team did should not have been an option either, obviously.

{Ed002's Note - A mistake, yes. There is no question about that.}


 

 

26 Feb 2021 01:22:46
Thoughts are with Allison.
What a horrible thing to have happened to his father who was not even old, stay strong Allison and take your time. We're all here for you.
May Jose rest in peace YNWA.

Alsky YNWA

1.) 26 Feb 2021 13:51:40
United fan in peace.

Horrible news and thoughts are with Alisson and his family. If there’s any club to rally round an astonishing keeper and give him the love he needs, it’s you guys. RIP Mr Becker.

{Ed077's Note - so RedWhiskey you are admitting that Liverpool is a better organisation than Man Utd?

Also prayers to Alisson and family and RIP Jose Becker}


 

 

 

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29 Jan 2024 22:12:50
So can everyone else 1jj.

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29 Aug 2023 06:58:37
Why should it be a short call? Did he not come on and do well against Newcastle while being a man down. Did he not play well alongside VVD just a couple years ago? He is young and has had some serious injuries maybe confidence was a thing once he came back or the worry of getting injured again so psychological. Quality player that needs to be appreciated more. Stop bad mouthing OUR players and show support.

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22 May 2023 23:55:26
They don’t want him to leave and know of interest from elsewhere.


Sounds like the Bellingham situation.

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20 Jul 2021 10:36:35
Ed002 did Liverpool not arrange a 4 year payment plan for Jota and Thaigo? So should give them a bit more time in payment and a chance to improve the squad with a midfielder and possibly a striker if these transfers go through.

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{Ed002's Note - No someone has been misleading you.}


 

 

 

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02 Jan 2024 00:31:55
Grino is right. Even though Salah scored the second penalty given, it still weren’t a great penalty and it mostly is he down the middle slightly to the left or right and always at a good height for the keeper. His missed penalty against Bournemouth and Arsenal should have been when he was no longer our penalty taker. No one is saying he is a useless player, he is one of the best the club has seen…. But he can’t take penalties. I’d rather Trent, Sab, or even VVD be given a try. It’s something they need to seriously talk about because 0-0 with a minute to go and Mo steps up for a pen I’m not so confident. If he runs through on goal at 0-0 last minute I’m confident.

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03 Sep 2022 03:07:18
RedWillis1 can you tell me who won the header from our corner against Newcastle that led to the winning goal please.
Gomez is quality.

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28 Aug 2021 20:07:55
Xpertoyin has to be a troll… either that or a absolute bell.

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01 Aug 2021 14:53:37
If I was Bobby reading all this crap, I’d F off out the club. I kind of see what Gini meant. Beat fans can also be complete idiots. Some people ain’t got a clue about football or take everything into account for the season we just had, the factors that contributed. Gini got the blame but he has gone now so let’s get on to Bobby. Bobby is quality and once he goes you will realise this YNWA.

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25 Mar 2021 22:39:04
LOL Pete Price 100% troll 100% idiot and taking a wild guess a Chelsea fan that got bored and drunk so jumped on here.

Give ya head a wobble and stop being bitter. Made me laugh though lol.

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