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20 Jun 2024 21:34:52
Nico Williams, what a player. They shouldn't care what he costs, just buy him.

Question for ed002:

a) Does he have a buyout clause?

b) Which clubs are trying to sign him?


{Ed002's Note - Nico Williams (LW/RW) Young Basque winger and brother to Inaki who has eased himself in to the first team over the last two seasons. Terse response from the Spanish U21 set up (along the lines of "he does not score many goals for an attacker") when told he was changing his allegiance to Ghana, like his brother - and that led to him changing back to Spain. There was plenty of interest in him so a contract extension and buy out clause were awarded to the player at the start of 2022 and again in December 2023, pricing him out of a move to Barcelona at €50M plus a significant signing on fee, plus wages of €350k per week - but they remain interested although they need to sell before buying so must prioritise. The player has made it clear he wants to move to Barcelona. Seen as far more affordable than Khvicha Kvaratskhelia. The Aston Villa coach wishes to be reunited and they will push for a deal in the summer but he may opt to stay for a year or two more after signing a new contract. Looked at by numerous Premier League clubs including Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal as well as Barcelona and Real Madrid. Chelsea are put off by the attitude, wages being asked for and he is not first choice. Arsenal may bite and make an offer and Newcastle offer a wildcard option.}

1.) 21 Jun 2024 12:18:08
He's an excellent playe and would fit us perfectly. Problem will be his salary. So we can rule that out immediately.

2.) 21 Jun 2024 13:07:52
Doesn't matter what he costs, spoken just like an owner of Nottingham Forest/ Everton. Cost Control/ Structure I have no problem with as long as you are pushing as much as possible to put a squad together capable of winning the league. That should always be the goal and pushing all the boundaries to the maximum to make it happen but still respecting the boundaries to avoid more dangerous consequences. I think our owners seem to have done a decent job of this to date. I think there was a time the sat back a touch too much when the team was going strong but overall I think they push what they could to win. I will continue to review them on a yearly basis though because just like players, consistency is key.

On Williams, I ve liked the look of him a lot. Way more than Rafael Leao who is similar. Risk would be goal output. It's not big right now but he is only 21. I love scorers in the front three though. His crossing and decision making looks really good though. If the wage demands are truly what is touted, I would be surprised to see us pull the trigger. But were Salah to leave, I wouldn't completely rule it out.

3.) 21 Jun 2024 14:01:34
Questionable attitude and high wage demands seem like a red flag, Ed, even though one on one he’s probably the most terrifying winger in Europe on form this season.

4.) 21 Jun 2024 15:24:25
Davey Sulls, I didn't mean that we should buy regardless, but rather those clubs that are after him. A £350k salary sounds completely insane, while £50 million seems like a relatively good investment. I personally would be thrilled to sell Díaz to Barcelona and bring in Williams. Like you, I think he is very reminiscent of Rafael Leão but a bit more direct and doesn't look as nonchalant on the pitch. Definitely one of Europe's most dangerous wingers in the coming years.

5.) 21 Jun 2024 16:55:44
Like him a lot but red flags with his attitude and wages, must be bad if Chelsea Have stepped away.

6.) 21 Jun 2024 16:11:19
Appreciate the detailed note, Ed!

7.) 21 Jun 2024 19:09:03
It's worth noting that the problems with his attitude were when he was younger, there's been a marked improvement in the last two seasons.

Maybe his previous 'maverick' persona was because he grew up idolising balotelli.

8.) 21 Jun 2024 20:10:42
Didn’t we sell him to Forest a few years back? ?.

9.) 21 Jun 2024 21:09:41
Also the fact that he and his family are very grateful to Bilbao, the city and the club, for the support that they have given to him and his family since being there. Also, Bilboa is a lovely city! Always the human factor.

10.) 21 Jun 2024 22:43:07
I like the look of Williams very much, but his joining would lead to destroying the existing wage structure at the club. If you give a 21 year old the 300-350k per week that he is asking for, then what do you give Salah, VVD and TAA (whose contracts need renewing if we are to keep them)? And then next in line you'd have Alisson and Mac Allister, and others, with "what about me? "

I can relate to the "let's get that player at any cost, he's so good" sentiment. But that's gross negligent financial management. It's simply all around bad news. Look at Barcelona. Having to sell future projected earnings to pay people today.

{Ed001's Note - that is the problem with dealing with Bilbao. They can't really spend money on transfers, there are very few Basque players they don't produce, so they pay big wages to keep their better players. Any player signed from them is already on big money and expects a pay rise to move.}

11.) 21 Jun 2024 23:13:25
Williams looks pretty good in this tournament.
I don’t rate Khvicha Kvaratskhelia at all. Looks like a very predictable player, easy to defend against.

12.) 21 Jun 2024 23:47:20
If we could get Nico Williams, do you think we could also nick naki too? See what I did there…. I’ll get my coat!

13.) 22 Jun 2024 07:43:51
I would be interested in your opinion on this topic eds1 If there is a young player out there that’s an upgrade on what we have and he is available but it would mean paying him more than our highest earners then should we be going for him? Every one literally what’s the best of the best that’s doesn’t need thinking about. It’s the message it sends out to the team that mite back fire.
I know it’s been mentioned before that NW mite has attitude problems but we heard this about mane and he turned out to be unbelievable for us.

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to say because it really depends on the individual player and their current contract situation. If they are a free agent, then you will be paying them more due to the signing fee. If they are Bellingham, then you pay them whatever it takes. If they are just a slight upgrade, then they need to fit into the set up the club has for salaries.

Mane did have a lot of problems which were well managed by Klopp, we don't have him any more, so we can't judge players that way. Even then, Klopp's magic couldn't work for Keita, who also had similar attitude problems, so it doesn't always work even with Klopp in charge. It really makes no sense to judge others by Mane. Each person is an individual, Williams is not Mane and doesn't come with the same motivations or problems.}

14.) 22 Jun 2024 08:27:00
Thanks for the reply mate. Yeah that make sense ??.

15.) 23 Jun 2024 00:18:46
Nevada, are you saying he has calmed down? Is he a serener Williams?



19 Jul 2022 22:20:01
This is for ed002. If i remember correctly we previously had interest in Tielemans. Have we moved on or are we still have interested in him?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were one of the clubs to have sent scouts to watch him. It went no further.}

1.) 20 Jul 2022 10:49:45
I'm finding hard Klopp doesn't want a midfielder this summer as we wanted Aurélien Tchouaméni i'm not sold on Bellingham yet and the injury records of the players we have are not great.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool made now offer for Tchouameni as he was never going to join the club.}

2.) 20 Jul 2022 20:36:12
Did Liverpool ask his representatives if he was interested in joining ed002?

{Ed002's Note - It was no more than saying the club would meet the financial demands. This is like a joke - he was never going to join and didn't.}




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25 Jun 2024 21:59:54
Like they play better without Trent? Now whos to blame.


{Ed025's Note - the Wally in the Waistcoat..

1.) 25 Jun 2024 22:10:47
Cole Palmers potentially is going to be very special. Wish we would have gotten him.

2.) 25 Jun 2024 22:12:16
Come on, it's not all about Trent and not everyone was blaming him.
We don't have many midfield options and we've lacked pace up front.
The best midfielder we have, Bellingham, looks tired. I'd have taken him and Kane off.
Get Foden nearer to the middle- even as false nine- and get some pace out wide.

{Ed025's Note - Gareth out Rigsby in...there iv called it..

3.) 25 Jun 2024 22:16:58
Took Gallagher off at half time because it’s the system not Trent’s fault

Brings Gordon on with a minute to go

Starts Saka over palmer when Saka looks burnt out and palmer has destroyed premier league

Was pelted with plastic cups by fans at end of match with no players near him and rightly so, makes my blood pressure boil and I’m not even English.

4.) 25 Jun 2024 22:24:41
My waistcoat is ready and I'm just waiting for a phone call, Ed025.
I'm going to leave Cole Palmer out just to annoy everybody though.

{Ed025's Note - swap him for Trent Rigsby and you would be a national hero mate..

5.) 25 Jun 2024 22:24:45
After the Denmark game Southgate said directly: “We know we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips”

Set aside the insanely negative tactics that alone should get him sacked.

England may still do something miraculous this euros but the signs aren’t good. The draw is unbelievably kind to them. There is no better chance and nowhere to hide.

6.) 25 Jun 2024 22:42:53
Aaaah but Trent with his wand of a right foot can't head a ball, Ed025.
We need to head our way to winning the Euros.

7.) 25 Jun 2024 23:25:29
Where’s Grealish when you need him- probably at home wishing he was still Irish ?.

8.) 26 Jun 2024 06:12:59
Bellingham was awful yesterday. Both Gordon and Palmer needs to start.

9.) 26 Jun 2024 07:49:31
Natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips? How about a tub of lard. It’s fat and it can’t move, job done.

{Ed025's Note - another player you like then VV.. :)

10.) 26 Jun 2024 08:13:45
Bellingham couldn’t even control the ball. He was worse than awful he looked like he’d never played football before.

Harry Kane has lost any pace he had which wasn’t much to begin with and he can’t hold the ball up. So what’s the point in playing him? For tap ins? Penalties?

The whole team looks lethargic and scared. I don’t think Trent should play in midfield but at least he’s prepared to play a risky pass. It’s the lack of movement in front of him that’s the bigger issue. Everyone is hiding and when they get the ball they can’t wait to get rid of it.

Even when they do force themselves to run at someone it’s done with a total lack of conviction so they lose the ball.

The most important quality an England manager needs is charisma and an ability to motivate. Forget tactics they don’t have enough time to prepare tactics properly.

Southgate has zero charisma and zero ability to motivate his players. As a result he consistently sends them out looking flat with no idea of the role they should be playing.

That was yet another 2 hours of my life I’ll never get back. I might just go out for a round of golf during England’s next match I’m not sure I can sit through that again.

11.) 26 Jun 2024 09:36:38
Kane has been terrible. Palmer and Gordon should be on . Trent back in.

12.) 26 Jun 2024 10:00:12
Let’s be honest, England were no better last night. Even after the substitutions, although they looked like they were pushing higher up the pitch and creating more it’s only really because Slovenia are a very weak team who were happy to take a draw and therefore camped in their own box. Ultimately, England created 1 half chance and Palmer wasted it with a tame shot far too close to Oblak. That game could’ve gone on another 90 minutes and England wouldn’t have scored unless a jammy ricochet had fallen kindly for a tap in like the first 2 games were England scabbed a goal. The only shots hit with conviction were Rice about 70 minutes in which he hammered wide and Trent about 90 minutes in which he hammered over. Everything else was weak and never going to beat probably the only keeper in world football as good as Alisson. Takes a top finish to beat Oblak. Not Foden floating a free kick towards the top corner or Palmer rolling it towards the near post.

13.) 26 Jun 2024 10:12:31
If you listen to the interview with Southgate what he actually said is
We don't have a natural replacement for (A) Kalvin Phillips.
ie. a Kalvin Phillips type of player. not Kalvin Phillips as such.
Not defending him but seems his comment may be misleading.

{Ed001's Note - there are lots of natural replacements for Phillips. You can go to any pub in the country and find a fat knacker who would get injured after running 5 yards. Southgate was simply trying to deflect blame for him being useless onto Trent. I said the moment Southgate decided to put Trent in midfield he was setting him up to be the scapegoat. The waistcoated gimp may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but he is defo amongst the slyest people in football.}

14.) 26 Jun 2024 10:51:32
It's Shameless how Trent has been treated. To be frank Gallagher is no better.

{Ed014's Note - there is only one person to blame and it’s that utter chump Southgate, I can’t listen to the prick and the utter bollox that comes out of his mouth.

Totally wasting a pretty talented group of players and has done since his joke of an appointment.

The top boys at the FA need a slap! ?’s

15.) 26 Jun 2024 11:06:42
To be fair Ed001 he may have many faults but at least he is an inspirational leader. Got my rod and hook ready.
What was the point of bringing a striker on with 1 minute left on the clock. How have England gone our most talented squad in years (as per many experts) to last nights woeful display.

{Ed001's Note - I don't get all this talk of how he united the squad either, long gone have been the days of cliques. Those days vanished the moment Fergie quit. And they were already on the way out before then, in large part, it must be said, to Rooney. He was just mates with everyone, so he would wander between the cliques and then they just naturally ended up dissolving as he became a conduit for conversation and friendship between the groups. Southgate had nothing to do with bringing the players together, by his time they were already all friendly.

Southgate is just a crap manager, a terrible coach and is very much an English Steve Clarke on the tactical front.}

16.) 26 Jun 2024 11:12:53
England lacks a true Rodri in there to sit and command the defense. They also lack proper wide players who can take on a man and beat them. Gordon has pace and can beat a man and he must play.
Rice was abysmal yesterday. And I don’t know what is the use of playing Kane if he is dropping to be a midfielder?

{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with a lack of players of any type. It would not matter if he had the real Ronaldo, Mbappe, Henry up front, Xabi Alonso anchoring a midfield with Cruyff and Seedorf in front of him, Southgate would still set up in a crap tactical system akin to the one Clarke used with Scotland.}

17.) 26 Jun 2024 11:46:59
Whether it's through been overplayed etc Bellingham was poor in almost all of Madrid champs league knock out games as well.

People are expecting too much. He's 21 years old and no matter how much England fans tell themselves Jude is the second coming he isn't in the same category as Messi et al yet.

I also personally think this idea of him having no position and running literally all over the pitch is very tactically naive and puts too much pressure on him to be everywhere. He's not a 10, move him further back and give him some positional discipline and not only will it get the best out of him it will also open up room for saka and foden to cut inside, right now everyone is trying to occupy that space in the middle.

It's just tactical mismanagement brought about by a manager who doesn't actually have an attacking mentality.

18.) 26 Jun 2024 12:01:26
Sent too soon. As Ed25 said, you can give Southgate Rodri, CR7, Pele, Maldini all in their pomp and he will still mess it up.

19.) 26 Jun 2024 12:21:40
Bellingham can play 10 but he doesn't look like he can play anywhere at the moment.
I'd give Foden a chance there or even as a false 9 and play a couple of wide players. We've got Salah, Palmer and Gordon to do that.
We may improve if the better teams have a go at us and take more chances but we need to keep the ball better and pass it with some intent.

{Ed025's Note - we may need to check Salah,s passport Rigsby.. :)

20.) 26 Jun 2024 12:31:52
I can’t see a Southgate team talk arousing anyone either the players look half asleep. I can’t see him
Screaming and shouting like a pep or a Klopp, what’s worst is he’s that arrogant that he will still play the exact same team and system for next game when the likes of mainoo palmer Gordon should be playing, even Trent at right back. No runners at all so even with his defensive style he can’t even counter attack. Buffoon and arrogant.

21.) 26 Jun 2024 14:26:53
Comparing him to Steve Clarke isn't very fair ed001 lol, clarke has very limited resources at his disposal and has done okay considering, i think Scotland were actually quite interesting to watch in qualifying with mctominay and mcginn being the main goal threats haha, certainly a damn sight more interesting than England anyway.

And might I suggest playing Bellingham as a false 9 if anybody is going to be used in that role? Though I still think starting Watkins rather than Kane has to be the way to go at any rate. Any sort of striker who will run in behind would be better than Kane.

{Ed001's Note - Clarke is the same safety first, dog muck manager as Southgate. It wouldn't matter who either of them had at their disposal, they would still play tedious defensive football because that is what they believe is best. Clueless the pair of them.}

22.) 26 Jun 2024 14:42:06
Nice one, Ed025 ?.
Obviously I meant Kaka.

{Ed025's Note - love it Rigsby..

23.) 26 Jun 2024 16:15:28
Ed25, I think the same about Clarke. When they decided to play to wibn vs Hungary, they played some decent stuff so it is not like they have no way of playing well. they do so Clarke's snoozeball is killing them, IMO.

Look, Scotland may not have world beaters BUT they got some good to very good players in Robbo, Tierney, a decent striker in Che Adams, MacTominay who is decent in attack and of course, John MacGin and Gilmore (who I both rate) in midfield. They are well organised and all that BUT I think if a more front foot manager took over, they can get better.

{Ed025's Note - that is the second post you have replied to me rather than the proper editor ED001, ....stalking is an offence mate.. :)

24.) 26 Jun 2024 18:00:50
When was it that a team last qualified to the knock-out stages of a major football tournament and the fans at the match threw things at the manager?

He talks absolute garbage in both what he is saying and also the pseudo-intellectual way he tries to put things., is a poor football and man manager and, as I keep saying he has never won anything as a manager, ever.

His idea of football is not to lose and if people think that’s ok then I honestly can’t see the point in having a football discussion.



10 Apr 2024 09:08:50
Hello! I suppose many of you are watching the Champions League. Just wanted to say that most referees, even from significantly weaker leagues, seem to maintain a higher standard than English referees. Considering the Premier League is regarded as perhaps the best league, it's very strange that they don't bring in the best referees. What's stopping that? The use of VAR is miles behind how it operates in Germany and Italy. There's almost never talk about referee performance after matchens there but in the PL it's almost after every match. What has gone so wrong?


1.) 10 Apr 2024 09:21:29
Howard Webb.

2.) 10 Apr 2024 09:44:29
I mean I don’t watch other leagues closely as I’m sure many on here don’t. But I would find it very difficult to believe that there is little or no referee controversies each match week.

3.) 10 Apr 2024 10:53:06
I was flipping back and forth between the 2 UCL matches last night. And I didn't see the slightest thing that was controversial.

Is "incompetence" an English privilege restricted to the Premier League or something? I know it isn't in the strongest terms possible. But we keep seeing it in the EPL, week in and week out. That's why I tend towards thinking that there is something else going on.

4.) 10 Apr 2024 12:23:00
The saka decision was as per VAR rules in my opinion. Saka sticking his leg out gave the VAR enough doubt not to overturn it (look at the amount of debate, it shows it wasnt clear and obvious) and got to that decision quickly. That's the high bar that it should be but the Premier league run it terribly.

5.) 10 Apr 2024 12:42:37
WYred- are you thinking of that was the prem then the VAR would have intervened?

6.) 10 Apr 2024 13:01:27
What that was Wy was a great decision from the referee and the VAR were clued up enough to see that and leave it alone.

What we would’ve seen in the PL is a 4 minute VAR check whilst they tie themselves up in knots trying to find a rule that it relates to which allows them to give the decision in the way they want.

Saka obviously kicked the keeper to try to buy a penalty after overrunning the ball. Anyone who knows football could see that which means our VAR officials would’ve 100% given it the other way.

7.) 10 Apr 2024 13:20:44
Looked like a Saka dive to me, the moment it happened. And I didn't think twice about it.

8.) 10 Apr 2024 13:21:31
Faith, if that’s the prem I think they give it. However, whilst not a dive, it’s creating contact and a way of playing the rules. Kane was the master at it and I think some of ours have done it too. Some argue Elliott did on the weekend but his was more subtle.

If refs get stronger on it they’ll eventually stop and if I was Arteta I’d be livid that Saka hasn’t just continued his run, he’s tried to be too cute and it’s backfired.

9.) 10 Apr 2024 14:42:34
don't think Saka kicked t he goalie but what he did was a classic hharry claim sorry kane move as in leaving his leg behind the goalie leg, go down and scream loudly broken leg scream ., should have got a yellow card for that and his or protests.

10.) 10 Apr 2024 17:56:57
I thought Elliott dived on Sunday . Player slides in and Elliott initiates the contact with WB thigh.

11.) 10 Apr 2024 22:54:22
No dive from Elliot, also thought that he was our best player when he came on he was brilliant, did a lot more than most,

12.) 11 Apr 2024 17:28:06
The ref got it absolutely spot on. Saka like several of the Arsenal players dive a lot but the refs say or do nothing. Saka dived van WH at the Emirates and was not booked. Same for Havertz vs Brentford a couple of weeks ago. Now he cheats ti get a pen vs Bayern. Not surprised.

13.) 11 Apr 2024 17:38:14
Saka is a cheat like his team mates and his manager.
What about the arsenal center half handling the ball in penalty area after keeper had took free kick and the ref after the game said he should of given a penalty
So just as bad as other uk refs poor and people say city get the refs decisions i rather think arsenal get the decisions from ref but there again they are a club full of cheats.



04 Feb 2023 10:41:33
Woke up with a positive feeling, many players are back in training and now that we're out of the cup they should have gotten a real reality check. Many are talking about Trent as a midfielder but I think he's absolutely best when he comes up and can deliver early crosses or overlap with Salah.
But after this season's performances, I'd be happy if they just play rock n' roll football again. That would be a step in the right direction.
Hopefully Nunez can score a few goals, I'm going for a 3-1 victory with 2 from Nunez and 1 from Salah on a penalty.


1.) 04 Feb 2023 11:10:05
Fancy mo to score a couple today. 2-0 r 3-1 to us ?.

2.) 04 Feb 2023 11:13:35
Love the positivity mate, nice to hear ?

Hoping the same myself, would love to see full throttle attacking, think it may be more like the cup game, but a win would be fantastic first up.

Here’s to a win ?.

3.) 04 Feb 2023 11:17:36
New month so hopefully we get off to a winning start. 3 points now to kick start the 2nd half of our league campaign.

4.) 04 Feb 2023 11:30:31
Woaaah. Where did all this positivity suddenly come from? ?.

5.) 04 Feb 2023 11:30:49
This is a must win game today. Never thought Wolves away at the start of feburary would be considered that, but with the derby fast approaching and Madrid coming up we have to start winning. Going in to those game without a win will just further set the rot in and we will have zero confidence in those games. I think we will go full throttle and do a job on Wolves today . 3-0.

6.) 04 Feb 2023 11:49:59
Yey our supporters are out in force - let’s hope for a win to keep the moaners quiet (cue moaners moaning about me moaning about their moaning) . Ps for those sensitive folks, it’s called irony ?.

7.) 04 Feb 2023 12:27:16
New month, new start. Must win, 3-1 Lfc.

8.) 04 Feb 2023 12:58:22
Up the Reds! Gakpo to shine today.

9.) 04 Feb 2023 13:05:35
Let’s keep the positivity going, lads. Hope the team can pull of the victory today.

10.) 04 Feb 2023 13:10:48
We are Liverpool positivity is in our DNA.

11.) 04 Feb 2023 13:31:02
I will take any sort of win. A shot coming of Salah’s arse will do me.

12.) 04 Feb 2023 13:50:06
3 points today lads. I can feel it in my bones. Then we build from there!

13.) 04 Feb 2023 14:38:22
I woke up with a ‘positive feeling’ myself this morning.

14.) 04 Feb 2023 15:27:56
And we're getting battered.

15.) 04 Feb 2023 15:35:33
I like the positivity guys. Let’s see how the result goes (currently 0-2 35mins) . Will have to keep that going cos the team need it.

16.) 04 Feb 2023 15:41:41
Gonna need 3 of Salah’s arse now ?



01 Feb 2023 06:20:51
If we end up above 6th place, I'll eat my hat. The football we play now is boring and slow, and we rarely create clear chances. Our defence is as poor as Everton's. Alison has made a few mistakes, but he has also saved us a lot of points and is, in my opinion, our best player.

How can Klopp turn this around when some of the players seem disinterested in being on the pitch (Salah, Fabinho, Ox, Naby, and even VVD)? Where do we go from here? I know a lot of people are blaming Lijnders, but we played like this last season too and still managed to do well if not great.

I personally feel that losing Mane is a big reason for our decline. He had great synergy with Trent and was constantly running behind their lines, causing major problems for the backline. Now, we have out of position players like Elliot or Ox who don't make the same runs, and Salah is like a ghost and doesn't pose any threat at all. As everyone has stated, we clearly need to renew our midfield.

In conclusion, we are not bringing in the right players for the way we play, with the exception of Diaz.


1.) 01 Feb 2023 07:16:46
If you don’t end up above 6th I’ll eat my hat.

2.) 01 Feb 2023 07:53:03
I find it funny that despite being one of our better performers since he’s come into the side, Naby is still getting beaten.
I’m not suggesting we keep him, in fact I’ve been an advocate of letting him go for a few years now, but he is still 33% of the most functional midfield we’ve had all season.

3.) 01 Feb 2023 07:58:52
More positivity from a United fan than supposedly one of our own, now THAT'S damning! Thanks stand, I agree, and hope you overtake city and pep cries!

4.) 01 Feb 2023 08:23:33
Windows closed so only thing we can do is get behind the team be it you’re there on match day, watching from a tv or stream or from behind a keyboard.

There’s lots to feel unhappy about but also apart from City fans we’ve had more joy and reasons to celebrate over the last 4-5 seasons than every other British clubs fans.

It’s time for the management and the players to stand up and be counted.

On a plus note with us lingering in 9th there’s ample opportunities for fans who don’t get match day tickets or who have never been to Anfield to possibly exploit as I know the chances of getting tickets at the moment is far easier.

Every cloud and that.

5.) 01 Feb 2023 08:46:05
I'm persuaded that we will play UCL footie next season. O I won't write off our chances of winning it this season either.

6.) 01 Feb 2023 08:54:43
JK, surely you've read the posts and reactions from certain quarters that they don't give a damn about the stadium, nor its expansion, and would have preferred that the funds be used to purchase new players? ?.

7.) 01 Feb 2023 09:06:05
6th 5th 4th 2nd 15th. don’t get a trophy for any of them.

8.) 01 Feb 2023 09:06:55
I have only seen one post about not wanting the expansion. It’s a good point on tickets, there were daily posts asking how to get tickets and now it’s fairly easy. Hopefully the posters who were desperate to go to Anfield still have the same desire.

9.) 01 Feb 2023 09:13:24
Spot on, ArAy1969. There was actually a thread about this where a poster said that he would rather have a fantastic team that fantastic facilities. Now that would make sense if we did not have the example of Utd to lean into where they have spent approaching 1.5bn on players (with NOTHING to show for it over the past 5 years and counting) whereas their training ground is reportedly a dump and their stadium is leaking and rodent infested.

So essentially even after all that we have achieved under Klopp and FSG (who hired Klopp after John Henry caved to the recommendations of the Analytics team), some of our fans can be so freaking ungrateful, it's baffling.

10.) 01 Feb 2023 09:19:55
No you don’t win any trophies but 2nd or 4th are obviously better than 5th, 6th or 15th and it might just give an indicator of what the team are still capable of.

11.) 01 Feb 2023 09:20:19
Aray in fairness I’ve been away for a few weeks so I’ve missed a lot and sometimes I’ll skip past certain comments and posts after a couple of lines.

In fairness the owners have been extremely business savvy with the redevelopment of Anfield it looks good, there’s more fans in the stadium but certain seating in the stadium actually makes it difficult to watch games when the ball is in certain areas especially for children and the older generation.

The money that’s been spent on the redevelopment gets paid back to the owners and is a big part in the club going from being bought for 300 mill to being valued at 3 billion.

Not a moan but extremely business savvy from FSG. They didn’t redevelop though for the love of the club and need of the fans.

12.) 01 Feb 2023 09:38:36
I am not criticizing Nabys ability, I am simply observing that he appears to lack motivation to play football. If the team was either playing an entertaining style and losing, or playing poorly and winning, I could support them, but they are currently doing neither.

Additionally, I have doubts about the recent signings of Carvalho, Elliot, Gakpo, Ramsey, and Arthur.

Do they suit us?

13.) 01 Feb 2023 09:47:18
They were more than capable of doing up infrastructure with their own pockets. They could have It’s great that more fans can go but that upper main is the quietest part of a recently very quiet stadium. Should do a Newcastle and stick the away fans up there.

14.) 01 Feb 2023 09:50:55
No business would redevelop for the love of the club or fans though to be fair. Redevelopment of a stadium is a major financial risk and it has to make sense in terms of revenue growth, investment etc. The only reason clubs expand is to make more money or meet certain regulations for competitions etc.
Let's not pretend FSG are the big bad wolf in this regard.
Besides that, great to see you back JK, will be nice to have your posts back.

15.) 01 Feb 2023 10:12:54
OneKiss, you talk as if they had the ability to do so and chose not to just to pee off you and your ilk. They came in and said what they were going to do and how the model was going to work. They did NOT promise you and your ilk to use their funds to do a damn thing so you assumed that all on your own. Your cross to bear BUT I'm sure you'll take responsibility for that. I wouldn't hold my breathe.

Also you do remember (and I know you do cos you seem to know EVERYTHING about FSG) that when they first took over the club, we were losing 50m a year for a few seasons back then. Whose money do you think was being used to cover the short fall until we got back on our feet through sponsorships and player sales? I know for a fact, it wasn't you. They developed their asset by putting in the infrastructure we needed as a club and when they leave, these facilities will STILL be there. That's how business works and investment and Return on Investment strategies work. Take a business class for heaven sake.

I spoke facts, bro so you can take your emotional rants that are devoid of any facts based on reality, elsewhere bro. It's getting boring reading the same schstick from the usual suspects like you and your BFF named VVVV.

16.) 01 Feb 2023 10:21:23
Stuie cheers for the reply mate. I def wasn’t trying to make out FSG as the big bad Wolf but also the plaudits they get for the redevelopment is all to do with money. Some of the new seating in the stadium feels like it was “let’s get as money seats in as we can without worrying about fans ability to see the game”

FSG have grown this club and they’ve done lots of things right. Purely from a fan point of view though with zero experience I’m struggling to see how they are going to attract investors to part with their money into a club where they then have no say despite it being common knowledge FSG’s own invest investment has increased by 10 times and they are unwilling to invest more themselves.

17.) 01 Feb 2023 10:40:49
A bit of balance is needed. FSG are ok stewards. Just ok. Not good. And definitely not bad.

We have outgrown them. And with negative outlook of ESL and FFP not being what they thought it would be, they have admitted they need help (investment/ sale) to keep up with rivals. Admitting that is good thing to be fair.

My preference would be a full sale with a clean slate whereby we can do business differently/ normally rather than continuously looking for cheat codes while pleading poverty (through the press puppets) .

Let's see what happens in the coming weeks/ months.

18.) 01 Feb 2023 10:54:59
Abramovich basically done everything for the love of the club and fans.

19.) 01 Feb 2023 11:54:17
They didn’t promise that but thanking the multi billionaires for spending someone else’s money so they make a bigger profit? I think they should have paid for the it themselves it’s a personal opinion.

20.) 01 Feb 2023 12:23:53
IR, I can't say about abramovich as I didn't really follow his ownership, but I do very much doubt he did it for the fans unless you have some figures etc? Chelsea are very well run from the outside though, but questions can also be raised about the ownership and the ethical sod eof things, but that's another discussion.
JK, I get your point, unfortunately I haven't been to anfield for about 5 years so can't comment, but it's a shame if that's the case.
In my opinion, I also fail to see how they will attract an outright buyer at the price they want, I feel LFC have hit their peak in terms of financial return and any buyer would be doing so more as a luxury than an investment, as they likely wouldn't get a great return long term unless the super league kicks off.

21.) 01 Feb 2023 13:29:41
OP, can you record yourself eating your hat when we get above 6th? ;)

I still think the chances have been there, maybe not as much as previous years, but for all the talent in our front line they are just not converting. How many have we seen Salah and Darwin miss, not have saved but actually miss the goal completely? Goals that could have turned draws into wins and losses into draws. They bury some of those chances and we're right there. Don't get me wrong, our midfield is definitely a mess, but if we could score the team would be under a lot less pressure.

22.) 01 Feb 2023 14:39:50
OneKiss, what you or I believe is irrelevant from the moment they announced how we were going to be run. We were a fully depreciated asset hence, we did not cost that much to buy and they turned us into a very viable asset by using their savvy to get good sponsorship deals, investing in new installations at the club and putting a winning product on the pitch which bring even more sponsorhip and revenue. What you believe should have happened, makes no difference. Get over yourself.

And to those talking about Abramovitch and his time at Chelsea, the guy only used Chelsea to launder his dirty money he was making by being Putin's bestie cos that's the ONLY way you become an oligarch. He also used it to launder his image. Did it for the love of the fans? Yeah if you believe that, I have a swamp full of gators down there in Florida I will like to sell to you.

23.) 01 Feb 2023 14:54:10
Why should they have paid for it themselves OneKiss?

If that’s the way you want things to be you need to be moaning about who can own a club and what they are for rather than those who buy them.

The years of top level football being purely for entertainment are long behind us, they are businesses and are used to make a profit or for advertising purposes (including sports washing) .

To make football truly competitive I think you’d need to bring in wage caps, salary caps, and maybe to have all clubs owned by a central body that effectively runs as a charity, whose job is to provide the best possible experience for the fans at a reasonable price.

Never going to happen though, there’s too much money in football, and the fans of the ‘bigger’ clubs would fight it tooth and naiil, and most are more interested than counting trophies than watching competitive football.




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01 Jul 2024 15:29:28
If Diaz were to leave, i hope we go all in for Nico Williams. Prob most exciting player in a team full of stars.




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21 Jun 2024 15:24:25
Davey Sulls, I didn't mean that we should buy regardless, but rather those clubs that are after him. A £350k salary sounds completely insane, while £50 million seems like a relatively good investment. I personally would be thrilled to sell Díaz to Barcelona and bring in Williams. Like you, I think he is very reminiscent of Rafael Leão but a bit more direct and doesn't look as nonchalant on the pitch. Definitely one of Europe's most dangerous wingers in the coming years.




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30 Jul 2023 21:11:10
Wow do we get them on loan? ?.





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03 Jul 2024 19:19:21
Mk great list i would just add
2 players :

Kante (France)
Mendes (Portugal)




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26 Jun 2024 19:52:30
Im with you. Before wingers went at the defenders or sprint past em, while nowadays they just pass around The ball until someone messes up or lose track. Bring back the neymar, ronaldhino type of players not just robots.




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01 Jun 2024 08:16:23
Yaya and kolo?




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15 May 2024 18:22:56
I would just go for semi automatic offside and goal technology and let the rest be judged by referee on the ground.




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07 May 2024 07:24:37
I have worked in finance for about 20 years, and from my experience, there are a few different things that trigger the top performers.

1. Money
2. Work ethic
3. Self-esteem
4. Competitive and goal-oriented

Those who perform the best and have worked the longest are the ones who want to be absolutely the best. Money is definitely a motivator but not decisive.




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