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25 Feb 2025 19:58:58
So, the season is over in a couple of months, and we will probably need a couple of signings depending on who is leaving. It looks like there could be up to 7-9 players.
Here are a few players I think we should target to strengthen our squad. I know we probably won't sign that many, but these are the ones i would like us to aim for:
- Wirtz
- Rogers
- Nico Williams
- Branthwaite
- Kerkez
- Cunha
- Bastoni
- Grimaldo.
1.) 25 Feb 2025 20:39:14
- no chance will cost 80-90 million and is Man City's de Bruyne replacement.
- no chance will cost 100 million+ (if grealish cost city 100 million)
- no chance will cost 80 million and has 350 k a week wage demands
- no chance plays for everton
- maybe (depends on bournemouth and european football) rather sign Jorrel Hato
- maybe (i hope we go for him too)
- no chance (inter milan will not sell bastoni and who will he replace in the starting line-up? ) Someone like David Hancko is more likely.
- I rather we went in for Jorrel Hato.
2.) 25 Feb 2025 23:27:39
Nico Williams is undoubtedly a cracking player but he has been quite average for Bilbao this year.
3.) 26 Feb 2025 11:05:54
Of that list, only Cunha is a realistic possibility I would say.
It does look like Hato and Huisen are the most serious targets at the moment.
In midfield, Carlos Baleba is a dream signing but likely way out of our price range. Could Monaco's Lamine Camara be a most cost effective option? He's not got the physicality of Baleba, but he is really tidy on the ball and gets about the pitch.
As always, there's interest in the next best South American kid - and Mastantuono has been heavily linked. If he was brought in, that would spell the end of Harvey Elliott.
Up front - I have no idea. I like Cunha but haven't seen anything to suggest we want him. Pedro has been linked but he's not as refined as Cunha, although a couple of years younger. Isak is crazy talk. Osimehn and Gyokeres - not for me.
Hugo Ekitike has been linked but he wouldn't be cheap to get out of Frankfurt. He has similar physical attributes to Isak. Not suggesting he can be as good as Isak, but he's 22 and has potential.
If we lose Diaz and Darwin, we might want to look to adding someone with some raw pace. No idea who that would be but Edwards has a good track record of finding those.
4.) 26 Feb 2025 11:42:03
Doesn't Nunez have raw pace? I would say we need that and a more clinical finisher, who also does the graft that Nunez does.
5.) 26 Feb 2025 11:58:03
CoolerThanFonz2 - if we have 5 or 6 forwards, it would be good for one of them to be a speed merchant so you have the option of an outball from time to time.
Yes, Darwin has the pace but clearly he's leaving. And it looks like Lucho will be too from the sounds of it.
Someone like Gittens, Minteh or Semenyo for example.
6.) 26 Feb 2025 12:06:36
Slot seems to think Nunez has stopped grafting.
I saw a stat that he has 6 goals in 35 appearances this season (admittedly most of them coming on as a sub) - he just isn’t good enough at this level of football in what his primary skill (scoring) should be.
7.) 26 Feb 2025 16:10:54
If the main reasons for Wirtz being unattainable is that he'd cost 80-90m and that City want him to replace De bruyne i'd see no reason we can't get him. don't know why anyone in their right mind would choose City over Liverpool this summer.
{Ed025's Note - maybe a big fat brown envelope FM or a 10 year contract on more money than you can shake a stick at mate?..
8.) 27 Feb 2025 09:28:18
Sad but true Ed25 - I’m sure there be some nice sponsorship deals for the lad too.
{Ed025's Note - absolutely WDW..
20 Jun 2024 21:34:52
Nico Williams, what a player. They shouldn't care what he costs, just buy him.
Question for ed002:
a) Does he have a buyout clause?
b) Which clubs are trying to sign him?
{Ed002's Note - Nico Williams (LW/RW) Young Basque winger and brother to Inaki who has eased himself in to the first team over the last two seasons. Terse response from the Spanish U21 set up (along the lines of "he does not score many goals for an attacker") when told he was changing his allegiance to Ghana, like his brother - and that led to him changing back to Spain. There was plenty of interest in him so a contract extension and buy out clause were awarded to the player at the start of 2022 and again in December 2023, pricing him out of a move to Barcelona at €50M plus a significant signing on fee, plus wages of €350k per week - but they remain interested although they need to sell before buying so must prioritise. The player has made it clear he wants to move to Barcelona. Seen as far more affordable than Khvicha Kvaratskhelia. The Aston Villa coach wishes to be reunited and they will push for a deal in the summer but he may opt to stay for a year or two more after signing a new contract. Looked at by numerous Premier League clubs including Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal as well as Barcelona and Real Madrid. Chelsea are put off by the attitude, wages being asked for and he is not first choice. Arsenal may bite and make an offer and Newcastle offer a wildcard option.}
1.) 21 Jun 2024 12:18:08
He's an excellent playe and would fit us perfectly. Problem will be his salary. So we can rule that out immediately.
2.) 21 Jun 2024 13:07:52
Doesn't matter what he costs, spoken just like an owner of Nottingham Forest/ Everton. Cost Control/ Structure I have no problem with as long as you are pushing as much as possible to put a squad together capable of winning the league. That should always be the goal and pushing all the boundaries to the maximum to make it happen but still respecting the boundaries to avoid more dangerous consequences. I think our owners seem to have done a decent job of this to date. I think there was a time the sat back a touch too much when the team was going strong but overall I think they push what they could to win. I will continue to review them on a yearly basis though because just like players, consistency is key.
On Williams, I ve liked the look of him a lot. Way more than Rafael Leao who is similar. Risk would be goal output. It's not big right now but he is only 21. I love scorers in the front three though. His crossing and decision making looks really good though. If the wage demands are truly what is touted, I would be surprised to see us pull the trigger. But were Salah to leave, I wouldn't completely rule it out.
3.) 21 Jun 2024 14:01:34
Questionable attitude and high wage demands seem like a red flag, Ed, even though one on one he’s probably the most terrifying winger in Europe on form this season.
4.) 21 Jun 2024 15:24:25
Davey Sulls, I didn't mean that we should buy regardless, but rather those clubs that are after him. A £350k salary sounds completely insane, while £50 million seems like a relatively good investment. I personally would be thrilled to sell Díaz to Barcelona and bring in Williams. Like you, I think he is very reminiscent of Rafael Leão but a bit more direct and doesn't look as nonchalant on the pitch. Definitely one of Europe's most dangerous wingers in the coming years.
5.) 21 Jun 2024 16:55:44
Like him a lot but red flags with his attitude and wages, must be bad if Chelsea Have stepped away.
6.) 21 Jun 2024 16:11:19
Appreciate the detailed note, Ed!
7.) 21 Jun 2024 19:09:03
It's worth noting that the problems with his attitude were when he was younger, there's been a marked improvement in the last two seasons.
Maybe his previous 'maverick' persona was because he grew up idolising balotelli.
8.) 21 Jun 2024 20:10:42
Didn’t we sell him to Forest a few years back? ?.
9.) 21 Jun 2024 21:09:41
Also the fact that he and his family are very grateful to Bilbao, the city and the club, for the support that they have given to him and his family since being there. Also, Bilboa is a lovely city! Always the human factor.
10.) 21 Jun 2024 22:43:07
I like the look of Williams very much, but his joining would lead to destroying the existing wage structure at the club. If you give a 21 year old the 300-350k per week that he is asking for, then what do you give Salah, VVD and TAA (whose contracts need renewing if we are to keep them)? And then next in line you'd have Alisson and Mac Allister, and others, with "what about me? "
I can relate to the "let's get that player at any cost, he's so good" sentiment. But that's gross negligent financial management. It's simply all around bad news. Look at Barcelona. Having to sell future projected earnings to pay people today.
{Ed001's Note - that is the problem with dealing with Bilbao. They can't really spend money on transfers, there are very few Basque players they don't produce, so they pay big wages to keep their better players. Any player signed from them is already on big money and expects a pay rise to move.}
11.) 21 Jun 2024 23:13:25
Williams looks pretty good in this tournament.
I don’t rate Khvicha Kvaratskhelia at all. Looks like a very predictable player, easy to defend against.
12.) 21 Jun 2024 23:47:20
If we could get Nico Williams, do you think we could also nick naki too? See what I did there…. I’ll get my coat!
13.) 22 Jun 2024 07:43:51
I would be interested in your opinion on this topic eds1 If there is a young player out there that’s an upgrade on what we have and he is available but it would mean paying him more than our highest earners then should we be going for him? Every one literally what’s the best of the best that’s doesn’t need thinking about. It’s the message it sends out to the team that mite back fire.
I know it’s been mentioned before that NW mite has attitude problems but we heard this about mane and he turned out to be unbelievable for us.
{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to say because it really depends on the individual player and their current contract situation. If they are a free agent, then you will be paying them more due to the signing fee. If they are Bellingham, then you pay them whatever it takes. If they are just a slight upgrade, then they need to fit into the set up the club has for salaries.
Mane did have a lot of problems which were well managed by Klopp, we don't have him any more, so we can't judge players that way. Even then, Klopp's magic couldn't work for Keita, who also had similar attitude problems, so it doesn't always work even with Klopp in charge. It really makes no sense to judge others by Mane. Each person is an individual, Williams is not Mane and doesn't come with the same motivations or problems.}
14.) 22 Jun 2024 08:27:00
Thanks for the reply mate. Yeah that make sense ??.
15.) 23 Jun 2024 00:18:46
Nevada, are you saying he has calmed down? Is he a serener Williams?
19 Jul 2022 22:20:01
This is for ed002. If i remember correctly we previously had interest in Tielemans. Have we moved on or are we still have interested in him?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were one of the clubs to have sent scouts to watch him. It went no further.}
1.) 20 Jul 2022 10:49:45
I'm finding hard Klopp doesn't want a midfielder this summer as we wanted Aurélien Tchouaméni i'm not sold on Bellingham yet and the injury records of the players we have are not great.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool made now offer for Tchouameni as he was never going to join the club.}
2.) 20 Jul 2022 20:36:12
Did Liverpool ask his representatives if he was interested in joining ed002?
{Ed002's Note - It was no more than saying the club would meet the financial demands. This is like a joke - he was never going to join and didn't.}
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07 Jun 2025 09:01:20
June 7th today. I will be at a wedding but will be checking in now and then for the big news that's been promised. Is it Isak?
{Ed077's Note - Not a chance in hell
1.) 07 Jun 2025 11:21:26
Pretty sure Akira (? ) merely said club officials would be attending a meeting on the 7th to discuss a top striker. I didn't think they ever said an announcement was going to be made. That was my interpretation anyway.
2.) 07 Jun 2025 11:43:54
I wouldn't be expecting Isak, mate.
3.) 07 Jun 2025 13:19:18
Just a meeting, . we won't be hearing any news.
16 Apr 2025 20:31:55
At least VAR helps the referee in the Champions League make the right call, as it should. Hopefully Webb and his team are watching the game.
1.) 16 Apr 2025 21:19:08
Didn't look like a clear and obvious error to me. It was soft but Rice had his arm around Mbappe.
2.) 16 Apr 2025 21:25:42
Seems like a good strong ref at the Bernabeu tonight for a change.
I have to say though that i think PSG look far better without Mbappe and Real Madrid look far worse with him.
3.) 16 Apr 2025 21:53:46
Think my opinion is this referee would love a job in the premier league as he has made it all about himself tonight - fair play to Arsenal though, Rice is quality - but all the falling over Arsenal do is soul destroying!
4.) 16 Apr 2025 21:59:30
That was never a penalty, but if the ref had given it in PL, VAR wouldn't have overturned it. The CL doesn't follow the 'clear and obvious' rule, i think. "clear and obvoius" is what's wrong in PL.
5.) 16 Apr 2025 22:21:11
Don’t want to come across as greedy. But I think we missed a trick this year with the European Cup.
The teams look inferior to the Liverpool of the first half to the season. Not signing some legs in January has cost us number 7 imo.
{Ed014's Note - or deluded hey
6.) 16 Apr 2025 22:25:02
Arsenal best team defensively in Europe, v solid never thought madrid would have any real chance of overturning the lead.
Awful game to watch in comparison to villa game night before, so much diving, fouling and messing about all that wrong with modern day football.
7.) 16 Apr 2025 22:32:49
I'm just glad Arsenal got rid of them, I simply do not like Real Madrid for numerous reasons. They're out and good riddance.
8.) 17 Apr 2025 00:03:10
PSG being better than Liverpool over two legs cost Liverpool number 7.
9.) 17 Apr 2025 01:20:56
Semibythesea, what fundamentally cost us against PSG was two p. poor penalties by two players who didn’t use any of their sparsely available braincells when deciding how to take their penalties, my old granny could have saved those with her rolling pin, and she’s been dead 20 years.
10.) 17 Apr 2025 01:29:27
If only the premier league wasn’t so weak this season ???.
11.) 17 Apr 2025 02:21:41
Aah the old rolling pin save!
Sadly Viktor, your old granny, god rest her soul, would likely have been booked then sent off for the use of the said baking implement under rules 4,12 and 14 of the association football rule guidelines and etiquette.
I’m sure this isn't how you would want your old granny to be remembered, as a cheating scoundrel who would stoop to the lowest level possible to gain an advantage.
I’m with our dogging friend, semibythesea, in that we were found wanting, not by much, but we were second best over the tie.
I’m sure your old granny would have used conventional means, so think on before you besmirch her good reputation!
27 Feb 2025 00:02:04
I have written about this before, but something needs to change with the referees and especially VAR in England. How can VAR not intervene when he blows for a free kick against Salah, despite Hall blocking his path with an arm in his face, getting outmaneuvered, and then holding onto Salah by grabbing his leg? If that's not clear and obvious, then I don't know what is.
Referees should review the footage after the match and either stand by their decision or admit they got it wrong. Right now, all referees are being protected despite an extremely high number of incorrect decisions every matchday. I know we won, but that's not the point. The standard needs to improve. If no one is held accountable, this can go on forever.
1.) 27 Feb 2025 02:06:09
just playing devil's advocate here, but I'm guessing the ref said to VAR they saw Hall fall over accidentally causing contact, VAR reviewed it and and agreed. so no call to review?
2.) 27 Feb 2025 05:29:53
In this instance, the claim was Salah shoved the defender, hence he fell
But I agree, u less they come out and explain their decisions, own it when they got it wrong, and also be celebrated when they get it right, otherwise standards won’t improve
There won’t be accountability and consistency
We did have what we have now, new or once off rules or novel interpretations that is used once and never again because actually it was a cover up of a mistake and they had to go mental gymnastics to make it at least look logical.
3.) 27 Feb 2025 07:06:14
The ref would’ve said he thought Salah pushed Hall over and as there was contact VAR would’ve said it’s not clear and obvious that he didn’t.
In reality Hall tried to block Salah’s run and then fell over and in a panic put his arm across Salah’s legs and tripped him.
Penalty all day long. But the ref made strange decisions all night. There was one yellow card for Newcastle yet they were holding and fouling to stop promising attacks over and over again and he just kept letting them off. He stopped Jota when he was clean through after being held by Schar for what seemed like an eternity. Gave the free kick as Jota wriggled free and was in on goal but still failed to book Schar. Bizarre.
4.) 27 Feb 2025 07:30:29
Dead cert pen imo, ref should've been told to go to monitor and take a look if var working correctly.
5.) 27 Feb 2025 08:11:42
2-0 win and 13 points clear. No need to focus on a penalty that never was.
It was a 50/ 50 decision at best, let’s be honest. Definitely not a stonewall penalty.
How good were we last night? Thought it was so professional and it looks like all the pressure the players were carrying at Villa and Wolves has gone away now and they’re playing much better again.
Running out of superlatives for Dom Szob who was unbelievable again in midfield. He does so much for the team and looks clinical in attacking areas now too.
I like that Nunez came on and worked harder today, i personally still think the writing is on the wall for him and will be very surprised if he’s here next season.
A few weeks ago I would have dropped all other trophies in a heartbeat if it meant we would win the league… now I’m thinking the league cup could be on with Isaak injured and possibly the Champions League even too.
We couldn’t win the treble lads, could we?
6.) 27 Feb 2025 09:19:22
I think the fans should be able to hear the live conversation between ref and VAR and understand how they came to their decision. Works well in rugby.
{Ed025's Note - they already think they are the stars of the show Bmena so i dont want to hear them as well mate, they will start doing the 2nd scene of "singing in the rain" next if you let them mate.. :)
7.) 27 Feb 2025 09:53:00
@Navy, II don’t know if you were around in Bob Paisley’s day? Back then there was a confidence that the team were always going to play well and it would take a really, really good team playing at the top of their game to stand a chance against us. We were like an immovable force. A number of times this season there have been hints that this squad could perhaps emulate Sir Bob’s teams. The last couple of games playing against two top 6 teams have in particular evoked memories. We beat both teams - difficult teams - and we methodically played them off the park. There was nothing that City or Newcastle could do to stop us. Long may it continue.
8.) 27 Feb 2025 09:59:09
Navy keith- we should be looking at all terrible decisions win lose or draw. More than that, decisions that guiltily favoured us as well. We should be loud, and all fans of every club should. Otherwise its going to continue to get worse.
9.) 27 Feb 2025 10:07:22
Totally agree that there should be audio from the ref.
Rugby does it best where you can hear the ref work their way through a TMO review. Only dumb thing is that it takes time.
At least that way, whether you agree or not, there is transparency with their logic.
10.) 27 Feb 2025 10:07:35
It didn't matter in the end but yet again the ref was poor. It was a definate penalty and VAR should have stepped in or what is the point in having it. You can just about accept the decision as a difference of opinion between the rest of the world the world and the ref. The worse call for me was stopping the game to award us a free kick when Jota was clean through on goal. Refs are always keen to play advantage for us when we are under pressure and about to lose the ball but very quick to blow up when we have an actual advantage.
11.) 27 Feb 2025 10:56:34
C0ffan, Hall and Salah were hand-fighting at best and Hall slipped and put his elbow in the way and Salah tripped over his elbow. If the ref was not sure then, he could have just played on and I would have been fine with it.
For him to award a foul against Salah just shows the rank incompetence of this ref who has always shown his incompetence when reffing LFC historically.
12.) 27 Feb 2025 11:10:18
Mo Salah is not refereed fairly.
I saw somewhere a stat that says Salah records over 4 times the number of touches per foul than Saka and Sterling do.
13.) 27 Feb 2025 11:39:09
I disagree Navy it was not even close to being a 50/ 50 decision it was a stone wall penalty. The ref didn’t want to give it so made up a foul on Hall to get out of it. That should’ve been seen by VAR and questioned.
The fact that we won the game and it didn’t matter is completely irrelevant. We all want refereeing standards to be better so we all need to call out rank bad refereeing when we see it whether it’s for us or against us, whether we win or we lose.
VAR is a tool that could be utilised so much better but they seem reluctant to do it. They keep banging on about not re refereeing the game and clear and obvious. Then we see instances like this one and worse and we all just think it’s corrupt because they must be able to see what we are seeing. It is blatantly clear and very obvious that the ref got it wrong.
Why did they not see it? Or did they just choose not to see it? Was it too early in the game and they were making a cuppa?
It needs to be sorted because it really is beyond a joke.
24 Feb 2025 06:48:10
I thought Jones had a really poor game, misplaced passes and struggled to hold up the ball. And Díaz looks like he needs another rest, he seemed fatigued despite just having one.
On the other hand, Dom has stepped up his game and is taking on more responsibility. His work rate is even better than Valverde's, and he's now adding goals and assists to his game, something he previously lacked.
Salah is simply unstoppable, and the central defenders were superb. Van Dijk and Salah have earned whatever they're asking for this season.
Get them signed for two more years, and let's dominate the Premier League now that City looks weak.
Well done, Slot-you brilliant bald Dutch.
1.) 24 Feb 2025 07:39:54
I thought jones was great. The team as a whole never had much of the ball city had the lions share of possession it’s what they do. Enjoy the win.
2.) 24 Feb 2025 08:17:28
I agree with Scouse John.
3.) 24 Feb 2025 08:41:22
It was a team win. Hats off to everyone involved.
4.) 24 Feb 2025 09:08:17
Jones was solid and extremely unlucky to not get on the scoresheet. Again the tolerance margin doesn’t seem to apply to us but we don’t need it.
Also thought he and Diaz are being asked to perform a role outside of their comfort zone.
Sadly our starting full backs were probably the worst players on the pitch. Trent for all his great passing struggled all game against Doku. Not sure if it was Doku on fire because Salah managed to tackle him OK.
However Robbo is shot. I honestly get so frustrated at how many silly fouls he gives away, his passing is off target and he cannot get up and down the pitch anymore. And as for his shooting. Sad to see but he needs to step down a rung if he wants to continue playing.
Which makes Konate and VVD’s performance even more magnificent. A clean sheet against the champions! What a great day and a great result.
5.) 24 Feb 2025 09:48:04
Robbo's diving in and completely missing the ball, was doing my head in.
6.) 24 Feb 2025 10:25:12
City played in a specific way. They had Doku repeatedly run at Trent in the hope that Konate would be drawn over to help him out. This would have created space for Marmoush (who was deliberately played just inside Doku) to run into. The problem is that Doku has pace to burn but zero end product so we were comfortable leaving Trent 1 on 1 and denying the space inside. Doku was so bad that later in the game even Trent started defending further inside and leaving Doku out on the wing on his own in the knowledge that Doku would pass the ball to one of our players anyway.
As for Robbo. I thought he was ok. He clearly tired in the second half and started to make bad decisions to try and compensate. Slot saw that and brought Tsimi on. That is what subs are for.
We restricted City to an xG of 0.65 at the Etihad and they only had 1 shot with an xG greater than 0.05. They created absolutely nothing and never looked like scoring so to be slating 50% of the defence is so unbelievably unnecessary.
Why when we have such brilliant results do we have to criticise anybody? The transfer window is not open. Like it or not our squad is our squad at least until the summer and there is nothing that anybody can do about that. Players will leave in the summer but right now they are wearing red shirts and doing their bit to try and ensure that Virg is lifting number 20 in the summer. Please, can we all just agree to stop all of the negativity and unnecessary criticism and just get behind them.
7.) 24 Feb 2025 10:38:20
The only player who performed poorly was Trent again.
8.) 24 Feb 2025 12:12:36
Can't agree with that assessment of Jones. I thought he was solid. The one who concerned me was TAA, but overall a great team win and Slot had his tactics spot on.
9.) 24 Feb 2025 12:19:07
The commentator spoke of some metric along the lines of Jones having the best accuracy passing in the whole league. Granted he rarely tries hollywood balls or long passes but an impressive stat all the same.
10.) 24 Feb 2025 15:10:02
Great win at the reigning champs to go 11 clear and your first take away is a poor game from Jones?
I, along with everyone else here it seems, thought he had a good game, contributed very well to a good team performance and my main take away was a great 3 points and a near perfect weekend from a Liverpool perspective. Looking at the fixtures Liverpool and Arsenal have coming up, I see the 11 point gap growing before the end of the season and Liverpool comfortably confirmed as champions for the 20th time.
Then there is the champions league, whilst I don't think the group stage will have too much bearing on the knockout rounds, I think Liverpool have a good chance, it will be interesting to see how Slot gets on against the best of Europe at the business end of a season but with the league campaign going strong, Europe and any success that comes with it can be seen as a bonus.
Plenty of reasons not to get too upset about a few misplaced passes.
11.) 24 Feb 2025 16:31:59
A season or two ago if we gave city that much of the ball they would of hammered us but yesterday we let them have the ball and to be honest they did nothing with it they run out of ideas the two wingers huffed and puffed but got no change out of our lads . Well done boys you did us proud YNWA.
25 Jan 2025 18:23:19
Not that I care, but regarding the Club World Cup this summer, how come many european teams are through but not us? If we look at the rankings among European clubs, we're 4th after City, Real, and Bayern Munich. So how is it that many others go through with a worse ranking?
1.) 25 Jan 2025 19:00:36
Good question!
2.) 25 Jan 2025 19:18:52
It's the last 4 winners of the cl I think and then similar for the other continent tournaments.
3.) 25 Jan 2025 19:25:40
We simply didn't meet the criteria to be involved. Move on.
4.) 25 Jan 2025 19:58:54
When did Atlético Madrid, Juventus, Inter Milan, Benfica, Porto, and Salzburg win anything in the European Cup?
5.) 25 Jan 2025 20:26:53
Ugbes personally, Im just glad we're not it esp. with the way it is now set up as a summer event. We won the edition we were in and that's godd enuff for me untill further notice.
6.) 25 Jan 2025 20:50:01
Wouldn’t want to be in it tbh, rather a good off season.
7.) 25 Jan 2025 20:57:02
less footy the better.
8.) 25 Jan 2025 21:04:25
Do we really care lad's.
9.) 25 Jan 2025 21:13:33
Chelsea, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, PSG, Inter, Porto, Benfica, Borussia Dortmund, Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Red Bull Salzburg.
12 places from Europe with most of them having little in way of European glory.
What ever the format is it's wrong.
10.) 25 Jan 2025 22:15:59
Barry, as I said, I’m glad we don’t play it. However, I was curious to know whether you got promoted or if it’s simply a case of teams that want to be in it being allowed to play.
11.) 25 Jan 2025 22:27:35
Infantino is every bit as corrupt as his predecessor.
The only good thing is that the City and Chelsea players won’t have any break before pre season starts.
12.) 25 Jan 2025 22:34:35
Whatever the formula I hope they keep it and keep us out of it!
We’ll get busy winning CL and PL and let some others win this friendly competition trophy.
13.) 25 Jan 2025 23:18:06
@Chris - it isn’t the format that’s wrong, it is the competition itself that’s wrong.
14.) 26 Jan 2025 00:44:39
I’m more concerned as to whether there is an option to opt out if we do win the UCL. The tournament is a complete waste of everyone’s time. Glorified money spinning friendlies with some added match fixing, Americanise half time entertainment and an appearance from whichever Sheikh has decided to be star of the show.
15.) 26 Jan 2025 05:00:46
I thought it was about teams choosing to play in it, rather than a qualifying criteria type of scenario, but I may be wrong.
Just glad we're not part of it.
16.) 26 Jan 2025 07:30:07
With the amount of money that’s involved in it I doubt any clubs owners would pull them out.
It’ll just replace the pre season worldwide tours we already see but just at a greater financial benefit.
17.) 26 Jan 2025 07:58:39
I honestly didn’t pay much attention to the tournament and didn’t realise all those clubs were in it, so thought I’d have a look. So it is the last four winners of continental tournaments plus a host of other clubs.
On the fifa website it says the below which includes athletico Salzburg etc but no further clarification on how the actual rankings.
The below (15 teams listed) represents clubs that have mathematically qualified through their confederations club ranking during the same four-year period (2021-2024).
18.) 26 Jan 2025 09:12:59
How much money is it worth? That will be the overriding factor, even for Liverpool. Let’s not kid ourselves.
19.) 26 Jan 2025 09:33:55
It's kind of sad to see people talk so badly of this trophy. In other countries it's a big trophy because it's the only time in the year their players will get to face the likes of Madrid and Liverpool, it carries prestige.
When you win it you are the best team in the entire world, not just Europe. Prize money is also better than both domestic cups as well.
Sometimes English fans can be very Anglo centric.
20.) 26 Jan 2025 10:49:21
You're spot on Nevada! It's the biggest thing ever for some of the fans of those smaller teams. Prize money is huge too btw!
21.) 26 Jan 2025 10:50:42
2.5 billion € to be split on the teams in it. 50 million € just to participate alone!
22.) 26 Jan 2025 11:21:31
If we were in it Nevada, I'd want to win it, but we aren't. It's probably better for the players that we aren't, because breaks are important, and the CWC makes it very hard to have one.
23.) 26 Jan 2025 11:55:47
Get where you're coming from Alvy I largely don't pay attention to competitions were not in or a team I like isn't in but it's the narrative that the trophy is meaningless that irks me a little.
Having spent time living in brasil and Asia and seeing how much value they place on being the best in the world, it's embarrassing to see fellow English fans act so elitist about it.
24.) 26 Jan 2025 11:57:32
To add : id much rather leave out the carabao cup or even the fa cup than the club world cup.
Both are trophies in which you often play lower league teams who aren't interested in winning they just want the pay day from being tied against prem opposition away. At least in the club world cup every single team wants to win as their primary goal.
25.) 26 Jan 2025 12:47:21
Bit elitist criticising lower league teams ain’t it.
We’ll be telling them next we’re the greatest fans in the world.
26.) 26 Jan 2025 12:52:41
I believe the criteria is to include multiple European clubs. The problem for ourselves not being invited is because Chelsea have won the champs league within the past 5 years, same with City.
Apparently there can only be 2 clubs from one country to make it more 'world' cup I assume? Unless you're from Brazil where they have 4 teams?
I think Barcelona miss out for Atletico Madrid because the two Madrid clubs have been more consistent in the champions league recently, so got chosen and Barcelona miss out. I think there are only 2 teams from Germany, Portugal etc.
Either way, I think it's a silly competition to make more money and I hope our lads enjoy their rest.
27.) 26 Jan 2025 14:46:32
Apparently City tried to decline to attend but were told they had to.
Real Madrid are waiting to see if they are announced as winners before they decide whether to show.
02 Jun 2025 01:25:25
I would say nico Williams is the best replacement. Fingers crossed.
28 May 2025 18:14:38
Mbappe?
07 May 2025 06:02:07
Or dumfries, dutch, prime age. Would be a signing that.
01 Apr 2025 19:33:00
Ed, so you mean If trent had left in january, he should be welcomed in the parade as well cause he contributed for the first 20 games?
{Ed025's Note - no mate he would not be a liverpool player then when they won it, he will still be a Liverpool player when you win this one though..
08 Mar 2025 08:34:45
Stetienne - that's why he is on the bench most games.
20 Jun 2025 10:06:15
Love it.
20 Jun 2025 08:59:06
Not really. Most of the players going aren't regular starters. Strengthen the first eleven, and then we should just use the youngsters if needed.
17 Jun 2025 11:49:36
I agree. His legs are gone and to many injuries last seasons.
01 Jun 2025 05:09:59
They didn’t exactly smash it in the group stage, did they? But yeah, since then they’ve been relentless. Fun to watch and well deserved. We came the closest to knocking them out in the finals but next time, we’re going to win it.
26 May 2025 16:53:09
Osimhen?