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09 Aug 2021 07:37:07
Harvey Elliott is on a different planet, we will not sign a centre midfield I expect Elliott to start against Norwich Saturday. Especially if Hendo and Thiago are out. Rhys Williams Loan clarkson loan Ben Woodbury loan Phillips sold and shaqiri sold. To fund danjuma deal.

1.) 09 Aug 2021 08:15:01
I don’t think Elliot will start v Norwich. Fabs will come back into midfield along with Milner and Keita.

Elliot seem to have moved ahead of Jones though.

2.) 09 Aug 2021 09:19:27
Yes, seems that way Mark. Elliot plays like the true No. 10 we've been missing for some time. Aggressive forward play, without missing the tracking back, pressing and everything else Klopp demands from his midfield. Jones seems to have been molded by Klopp into a No. 8, which we have quite a few of. How's he ever going to stand out?

3.) 09 Aug 2021 09:39:42
The season in Blackburn did wonders for him. He is so confident, strong and matured. He looked better than Trent in 18. In fact, he looked better than an 18-year-olds in Merseyside.

4.) 09 Aug 2021 12:32:50
Kwkhong, Michael Owen is better at tagt age.

5.) 09 Aug 2021 13:02:21
Put it in the bags guys. don't set unwanted expectations of the kid.

28 Jul 2020 08:07:49
Harvey Barnes, what's the chances Ed I rate him highly and we all know bobby makes players better round him he could be a steal his got pace and power finishing probably not his strong point but that will come he will get into better positions with us. Young English will cost nowhere near as much as sancho seems like Liverpool done there homework again.

{Ed002's Note - Harvey Barnes does not play in the same position as Sancho. He would be a Lallana replacement that would take time away from Curtis Jones. It would strike me as a dumb move.}

1.) 28 Jul 2020 09:26:21
Not to mention he would probably cost more than we can afford.

2.) 28 Jul 2020 10:02:05
Leicester don’t need to sell, and we have seen how they extracted £80m for slabhead, so they’re not going to look to accept anywhere south of £50/ 60m given the fact he’s English, and there’s no way he’s worth that.

As Ed said, dumb move considering we have Curtis Jones (and have just given him a long term contract), it makes zero sense to lash out stupid money on someone who is a very ordinary player, and who is not better than the ones already here.

3.) 28 Jul 2020 12:39:55
Would signing him help with the HG quota eds.

{Ed002's Note - It is the non-HG quota that is the issue.}

4.) 28 Jul 2020 13:37:35
The issue is that Leicester don’t want to sell, don’t need to sell and we don’t want to buy, need to buy.

5.) 28 Jul 2020 15:53:55
ed002, do you know where we could find a current list of Liverpool's HG players? I've looked all over and am having trouble finding anything good.

{Ed002's Note - Well you just need to go though the list of the first team squad and exclude the likes of the non HG players (which is the issue) such as Firmino, Robertson, Allison, Fabinho, etc. who are ot HG. That is the defining issue.}

6.) 28 Jul 2020 16:06:54
Harvey Barnes is a winger while Curtis Jones is a central midfield player, who can play left midfield. So not sure what Ed002 means when he says Barnes would replace Lallana.

{Ed002's Note - Barnes spends most of his time playing LM postion. But let's assume Liverpool don't want him as that but for cover for Mane. That will resolve the attacking issue and allow Liverpool to sell Curtis Jones to raise money. It seems many Liverpool fans are behind that.}

7.) 28 Jul 2020 20:51:36
What Harvey Barnes plays as an attacking midfielder wide left or right so does play in the same position as sancho look where he plays for Leicester. I seem him as a perfect signing and jones will replace lallana, why would we want the club to sell jones doesn't make sense Ed.

8.) 29 Jul 2020 00:03:31
The only way we sign Harvey (or any other attacker), in my opinion, is by offloading Origi and that would be difficult enough in this market.

{Ed0666's Note - are we really debating swapping Barnes for Divvy have you people no loyalty 😂

9.) 29 Jul 2020 10:51:21
That was only for the arguments sake. 😅 Just to make it clear, I absolutely love Divock for his contribution in our recent success. I just feel we won't stockpile players in the squad coz that's unrealistic to say the least. There needs to be a balance and we already have it. Any addition to the side will depend on who leaves and whether Jurgen trusts the youngsters in those positions to step up, like we have seen with Williams and Curtis internally replacing Clyne and Lallana.

10.) 30 Jul 2020 07:01:39
Barnes is not joining Liverpool.

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18 Aug 2021 23:40:19
No don't want sarr or traore, go get Harvey Barnes his young English so works in favour for homegrown aswell fits klopps model fast, pressing monster and can score goals.

1.) 19 Aug 2021 03:00:56
Would cost atleast a 60 million. If the club had 60 million we would have signed a couple of players already.

2.) 19 Aug 2021 06:08:22
Apparently the club has £40 mill to splash it on Traore / Sarr. Where is that money coming from Akira?

3.) 19 Aug 2021 08:31:19
Only if you believe everything you read.

4.) 19 Aug 2021 09:50:50
Apparently i want to date olivia munn. Where is the confidence coming from sinwave?

5.) 19 Aug 2021 10:23:11
Blimey, Harry’s talking to himself! Bizarre!

6.) 19 Aug 2021 13:46:12
Zed if that is true then my days, an intervention is definitely required.

06 Aug 2020 07:11:09
Get Lewis 10mill, larouci can go in the other direction and would even offer Harvey Elliot on loan for the season Norwich play the right football. I think he needs 1st team football like Brewster for a season now.

1.) 06 Aug 2020 09:38:40
I disagree mate. I hate the loan system. Players improve more in terms of ability from good coaches and training with more demanding team mates in my opinion.

Loans are good for players lacking confidence or regaining fitness. In some cases it's even good to toughen up a player who is mentally or physically weak. None of that applies Elliott though. He looks supremely confident, has never had a injury, looks to have a good attitude, and looks physically capable of going toe to toe with senior players. I'd rather he had Klopp and Henderson on his back keeping him grounded, and got to watch and learn from Salah and Mane daily.

The loan helped Brewster because he was recovering from injury and looked to be lacking confidence. Another loan for him finishes his Liverpool career if you ask me. Perpetual loan cycles stall a players development and very few come back to their parent club after years in the wilderness, as better players.

2.) 06 Aug 2020 10:55:54
Agree on the confidence part. He does look like one confident and motivated kid. He is really really young. He needs more coaching and be around a bunch of great players than more gametime for now, I think.

3.) 06 Aug 2020 11:20:55
Harvey Elliot will not be playing championship football.

4.) 06 Aug 2020 11:46:44
Good post HMB. I keep saying it, as soon as we pulled out of Werner deal it would have been partially based on keeping Brewster with us next season.

5.) 06 Aug 2020 16:34:19
Supareds, I disagree. With Klopp, things are not always what they seem to be. Brewster is still a kid and learning the game and if he thought he could keep Brewster then why would Klopp have wasted his time courting Werner for months.

IMO, Klopp does not play those types of games. He is a serious dude. We shall see what happens with Brewster but IMO, he is going to need another loan and word on the street is that Swansea are keen on taking him back on loan for next season.

6.) 06 Aug 2020 17:48:34
Red Meister, plans can change mate. Since then Klopp has said that as a club we need to find internal solutions. Also since then football resumed and Brewster starting banging in goals and fired Swansea to the playoffs. When Klopp was courting Werner we weren't expecting to be losing money this season and Brewster wasn't doing as well.

I think we either keep Origi and sell Brewster. Or keep Brewster and sell Origi. It's simply not fair to hoard talent and keep sending them out to clubs with no actual interest in the development or long term future of the player. Loans are short term solutions. As a general rule they are damaging to peoples careers. Origi is the only Liverpool player in the first team squad to go out on loan and actually come back. He came from Lille as a scapegoat lacking confidence, then back from Wolfsburg half the player lacking fitness. Liverpool failed him.

We should not make the same mistake with Brewster. If he's not in Klopp's plans let the poor kid go to a team who want to build around him because he's too good for Championship level. Bundesliga 1 clubs wanted him 24 months ago and Klopp convinced him to stay on the premise that he would get first team opportunities.

It's time to make the hard decisions in the best interest of the player. Stalling for time is selfish in my opinion.

7.) 06 Aug 2020 18:20:13
How did Liverpool fail Origi by loaning him to a couple of decent clubs? He just make enough of the opportunity.

That aside I do think we could move Origi on if he wants and use Brewster. My only issue is the amount of time Klopp used Origi on the left and not thru the middle. I can't see Brewster doing that. Maybe Klopp sees Origi giving him more options?

8.) 06 Aug 2020 18:33:03
HMB, of course plans can change but that is not the issue here. You keep saying LFC failed Origi or whatever and that is simply not true. It was a good loan cos they paid a 7m loan fee so there
goes your argument.

For someone who watched Origi play in Germany most of the time he was there, I agree that the Wolfsburg loan was not good for him cos the team did not play to his strengths even tho he was a regular starter at first. How was LFC supposed to know that? How was LFC supposed to know that Wolfsburg would be basket case that season with 3 managers coming in and out of the club? Chill out with all that mess, man. Easy to say all that stuff after the fact, isn't it?

Also, this idea of selling young players cos he may or may not be in Klopp's plans is premature and IMO, bizarre. If Klopp did not want Brewster, he could have sold him to Dortmund who came in for him after they got Sancho yet Klopp kept him and judging by what we have seen at Swansea, Klopp was right to keep him cos the kid can ball. All he needs is consistent game time and experience. After all, Jones and Williams bid their time and Elliot is doing the exact same thing. What is selfish about that?

As for making hard decisions for the interest of the player, I will leave that to Klopp and Brewster's camp to figure that out BUT IMO, we will not be selling our young but inexperienced players with potential just cos Klopp or the club is not doing what you wantor cos these kids are not developing fast enuff for your liking.

9.) 06 Aug 2020 19:11:41
You could argue that Klopp doesn't play to Origi's strengths.

10.) 06 Aug 2020 22:56:18
It's easy to say in hindsight but equally easy to predict in advance. Loans don't work almost invariably from what i have seen. It's a poor system that is abused in the modern game to the detriment of young players who now rarely ever come through at their parent clubs in top tier leagues. Most of the time it is children the top clubs have hoarded being farmed off around the country. I'm sorry you disagree with my opinion, but you can't change it. I don't like loans and i think Brewster deserves better. Origi was a good young player before he was loaned out and he came back with shattered confidence.

The players who succeed are the ones who get backed from an early age and kept in and around the first team. Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen, Jamie Carragher, Steven Gerrard, Steve McManaman, Trent Alexander-Arnold etc. I must have missed their loan moves. Which loan players have come back to Liverpool and gone on to become regulars in the starting 11? I cannot think of any.

11.) 07 Aug 2020 01:52:34
I’d be amazed if Klopp doesn’t keep Brewster at the club this season. He has had a great recovery season on loan and we are in need of internal reinforcements with Lallana and possibly Shaqiri moving on. Rhian needs premier league experience now and to be training with the first team under Klopp. I don’t see what benefit he would get by being loaned out again other than fitness and lower level experience.

{Ed0666's Note - I don’t concur mate. I think it would be better for him and us if he goes out on loan is playing regularly and scoring goals. I feel he needs one more good season under his belt before he can lay a claim to the Liverpool squad.

12.) 07 Aug 2020 03:28:28
More than happy to disagree, 666, I just feel he will learn more playing with us in cup games, sub appearances (or more if front 3 are injured) . At some point he needs to learn how Klopps methods translate on the pitch and forge intuitive understanding with our other front men. As long as he is getting enough opportunities as Jones, Neco, etc, were then I think there’s more to be gained by having him training with the first team instead of being loaned to the Championship. I’ve a sneaky feeling he will stick around this season but I have no issue being proven wrong.

{Ed0666's Note - I hear you’re point Gini but he was doing the cup games and sub appearances for us season before last and he was woeful. Get another full playing season under his belt and come back and challenge for a place as he clearly looks like there might be a player in there. Well just have to agree to disagree on this one and if indeed he does come back this season I’m more than happy to eat humble pie wouldn’t be the first time mate.

13.) 07 Aug 2020 09:14:50
Ed0666, think you've possibly confused him with Sturridge or Solanke? 18/ 19 season Brewster was injured the whole year and Sturridge and Origi were back ups. 17/ 18 season Brewster wasn't even in the first team picture and Solanke and Sturridge were back ups while Origi rotted in Germany.

Brewster has barely had a sniff of first team football at Liverpool. He had a few cup games this season prior to his loan to Swansea to get him match fit. When he signed his new deal Klopp promised him first team opportunities and it's time he honoured that promise.

For me, Origi or Brewster should be sold and the other kept as competition for the squad. In reality, i'm well aware the most likely scenario is Origi stays and Brewster goes back on loan. I just don't agree with it.

{Ed0666's Note - no Harvey I wasn’t confusing him with anyone else my bad I thought he’d played more games for us prior to his loan to Swansea, thanks for correcting me.
My point still stands though because he was training with the first team squad and still was shipped out so Klopp obviously thought he wasn’t ready which was in relation to you’re point about him needing to train with the first team

06 Aug 2020 07:03:26
Sarr is African what we going to do when African cup of nations comes round. 3 attacking players will be off.

1.) 06 Aug 2020 09:01:12
Its in 2022. Have you ever worried about exams 2 years away?

2.) 06 Aug 2020 09:20:48
That's based on the assumption all of Mane, Salah Sarr (if we even sign him) are still Liverpool players in 2022.

I wouldn't worry about something that far off, just look what happened with the C.V., that alone shows you can't look too far ahead.

3.) 06 Aug 2020 09:58:44
Agreed mate. Makes no sense. Not least because he isn't better than what we have. If Origi had played over 2000 minutes in that Watford team he'd have hit double figures and probably got them the extra points they needed to stay up. Sarr didn't show up for well over half the season. He's not a teenager. He's 22 years old. At a similar age Mane was scoring double figures for Southampton. Salah was scoring double figures on loan at Roma.

Sarr just isn't that good. He's just another Wilf Zaha or Alex Iwobi. Legs all over the place, no finesse to his game, and relies completely on pace. Against deep defences (that we always come up against) he will be useless. To put it bluntly, i don't see Sarr ever being good enough to regularly start for the Liverpool first team so i'd rather stick with Origi if this is the alternative. Only my opinion like. Maybe Sarr will prove me totally wrong but i simply don't rate him.

4.) 06 Aug 2020 11:13:19
I maintain the belief that Milot Rashica is the best option if we are signing anyone to cover the forward areas.

He's young, very quick, has two good feet, can pick a pass, clinical finisher, can play anywhere across the front three and is available for about £20million, much less than Sarr would cost.

He basically carried an awful Werder Bremen team all season and was pivotal to maintaining their Bundesliga status.

5.) 06 Aug 2020 12:04:02
Kieran, i'd go with that to be fair. Rashica would be a genuine upgrade on Origi. He is a footballer first, and an athlete second. Reminds me a bit of Diogo Jota as well. His all around work rate and the way he can drop deep and get involved in build up play would suit our team. Jota would be perfect but he'd cost too much. Another I like who is a more well rounded player is Marcus Thuram but i suspect he'd cost a fortune too. There are good technically gifted players out there who are also fast. We really don't need a speed merchant who plays with his head down. Rashica isva cost effective option. If we can't get a player at this kind of level though we might as well utilise Origi or give Brewster a chance.

6.) 06 Aug 2020 16:36:50
Kieran Ed066 has said that Rashica ain't happening. As for Sarr, he will cost a bomb, IMO something we don't have so I'll believe it when I see it.

7.) 06 Aug 2020 20:39:44
I know Rashica isn't going to happen which is unfortunate, it seems like such a shame that a player who ticks every box fits every metric we have for signing a player isn't coming to us but will instead go to Monaco or Milan for €25million. He's better than Sarr no doubt.

20 Jul 2020 23:20:39
I jus think Chelsea are going to have problems incorporating all these players with Pulisic Hudson odoi giroud Werner ziyech mount abraham havertz loftus cheek kante kovacic Gilmore Jorginho barkley. They will have problems, if Willian decides to stay that 15 players there’s only 5 more to go into the match day squad and you got 2 keepers along with defenders 🤦‍♂️ They will have major problems keeping everyone happy. It will be there downfall.

{Ed002's Note - Some of those players are leaving. Once the season is over. All of the purchases are replacements for others.}

1.) 21 Jul 2020 02:19:02
Imo Chelsea have a dodgy defence, they don't seem to be doing anything about it. But all the attacking players you want, without a solid base it won't win you the league. We showed that 3 years ago, and just look at city this year.

2.) 21 Jul 2020 06:43:39
Imo the transfer window is not yet closed and Roman has still got his cheque book open 😅😅.

3.) 21 Jul 2020 08:26:43
Hats off to Chelsea they are really going Big this window again. Same as Arsenal though I probably won’t take them seriously until they buy a proper Keeper and Defence.

4.) 21 Jul 2020 08:35:14
I feel there's a Chelsea turn in your future, Harry.

5.) 21 Jul 2020 10:44:15
Surely Chelsea have a proper keeper already FC8? They certainly paid a proper keeper price for him 😱.

6.) 21 Jul 2020 10:56:31
Chelsea, utd, arsenal, spurs won't do anything different next season to what they have done this, why? Because none of them can defend. City can't either but they have a great attack which will win them games. It'll be between us and city again, many seem to think Chelsea will be up there, no chance, not yet.

Liverpool will fly away with it next season once again. We don't just have a great attack we have a top notch team and it's been proven the last 2 seasons, 2 major trophies and a lot more to come.

7.) 21 Jul 2020 10:59:06
I am yet to be convinced about Lampard as a manager even tho there is still time for him to mature at the highest level. Now whether he will get that tim remains to be seen.

As for Chelsea going big, I see them improving for sure BUT if they want to challenge for the title next season, they are going to have to fix those defence and GK issues they have cos Kepa is well, Kepa while none of their CB' and FB's are good enuff to play in a title-challenging defence.

In addition to this, I just don't see where they will get the 95 to 98 points required to win the title next seasonIF they do not fix these issues and many more.

{Ed002's Note - Aside from Chelsea actively working on changes to the defence, seven of their defence already have at least one Premier League medal. Embarrassing.}

8.) 21 Jul 2020 11:52:04
people seem to forget that Chelsea are coming out of a transfer hibernation. they huuuuungry!

9.) 21 Jul 2020 12:07:02
Chelsea will be very dangerous next season. So will Man U.

10.) 21 Jul 2020 12:59:26
Ed02, What is embarrassing about my post, exactly? I gave an opinion on Chelsea's chances based on what the team looks like and it's current issues at GK and at their back line that even their own fans admit on SM that they have.

I am sure they are working on these faults as we speak so we will see what happens. Now regarding the fact that 6 of their current defenders have PL winners medals if of no relevance to me right now cos in spite of all that, they still currently cannot stop a nose bleed defensively and concede goals for fun esp. with that clown of a GK they have. We shall see how things turn out next season. Cheers, man.

{Ed002's Note - Your statement that "none of their CB' and FB's are good enuff to play in a title-challenging defence". Seven of the defenders who have played this season already have Premier League winners medals.}

11.) 21 Jul 2020 13:45:42
Lol completely agree with you RM. You just made a Chelsea fan bite a little that's all :) .

12.) 21 Jul 2020 15:27:18
John O'Shea have 5.

13.) 21 Jul 2020 19:51:35
Those defenders that have pl medals played along side terry and had cech in goal. These guys have Hudson odu and kepa. RM sentiment was correct in my opinion but was worded wrong is all.
As that teams sits, they will be dangerous in attack but susceptible at the back. You can get at chelsea and everybody knows it. Frank's was a brilliant attacking player, maybe that'll be his managerial style. I don't think you can judge him in last season, no signings but he did a good job. I can't help it, but I like super Frank, he's alright. I think he'll be a very good manager.

03 Jul 2020 19:14:22
After watching Robertson last night we need to bring in somebody to give him something to think about before he gets to comfortable.

let’s face it he turns up to every game knowing his on the team sheet.

{Ed047's Note - you seriously need to have a word with yourself fella 🤦‍♂️

1.) 03 Jul 2020 20:40:21
Oh 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂.

2.) 03 Jul 2020 23:19:16
Freedom of Speech can be a real pain. That's all I have to say. (And it's fine) .

3.) 04 Jul 2020 00:57:27
I understand the sentiment of the op. Poorly worded though mate. If his form dipped dramatically then klopp would throw milly on.

4.) 04 Jul 2020 09:00:45
I recall him having to force himself in the team over Milner, I'm sure klopp would start playing milner again if Robertson couldn't be bothered anymore, which let's face it, isn't going to happen, we diddnt play too bad, just not clinical, and Robertson had a bad game, but he has 4 medals in his pocket after 2 seasons, not a bad left back ay.

5.) 04 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Robbie, very gracious of you BUT sorry, the OP is talking nonsense from top to bottom of his post regarding Robbo who had his first bad game in donkey ages. Read it again and you 'll prolly see why.

6.) 04 Jul 2020 10:37:38
Our performance against City looked as if we had a hangover, we just did not click and we played a City side with a point to prove, I am giving all of them a pass on that performance, we created chances but we was just off the pace, like I said it was as if we had a hangover.

7.) 04 Jul 2020 10:57:47
Competition for places should be a given in any top team.

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28 Jul 2020 20:51:36
What Harvey Barnes plays as an attacking midfielder wide left or right so does play in the same position as sancho look where he plays for Leicester. I seem him as a perfect signing and jones will replace lallana, why would we want the club to sell jones doesn't make sense Ed.

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27 May 2020 07:30:33
We need Werner now because our front 3 aren’t getting any younger and with African nations coming up Mane and salah gone we need bodies up top origi not done it this year.

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27 May 2020 07:25:54
Allison Oblak not far behind
Trent our on his own for this postition
VVD
Koulibaly probably been Laporte if it wasn’t for injuries
This is tough one robbo for now like the look of Davies tho

Hendo (Captain) Makes everything tick
KDB Play maker
Kante These 3 would gel nicely

Mbappe I could of gone with salah quite easily
Suarez Hard to leave out bobby
Mane Right now his the closest to messi and ronaldo

What’s great about this not one Man Utd player are even close to any of these players right now they are 5 years behind Liverpool.