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27 Aug 2020 21:50:14
Ed regarding your long post - thank you for the breakdown.

You mention Barcelona have three options for the left wing spot, mane and who?

Also, you said PSG as a potential neymar replacement - is that in the future or do you see him moving this year?

I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related but I’d hate to see mane leave, so just want to weigh up the options!

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - You need to take it to the relevant page where it has been addressed already.}


 

 

12 Jul 2020 22:01:17
Ed’s, I know you have mentioned about Keita not impressing overly and an expensive mistake I believe was said.

Do you think he could leave this summer?

Personally not convinced by him, I do think he has shown flashes, but it often seems like he doesn’t suit the style, he drives forward and plays a risky pass every time, even if it’s not on. I know he has played so little he needs to learn the runs and develop the chemistry a little more but I don’t see him getting there. His shots also seem wayward and weak for a player who gets chances around the edge of the box.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect him to leave.}


1.) 12 Jul 2020 22:33:55
He s finally getting a run of games together. He hasn't been terrible. YES he needs some work defensively but he's done a lot of good things on the ball and has done some really really good pressing things. He should be fine as long as he stays fit and continues to work hard at is faults. Like all players in the squad.

If he can stay clear of injuries and works hard I have every faith he 'll be a top player for us.

Injuries are my biggest fear with him. Ability wise he is very talented. He just needs more time on the training ground and less time in the treatment room.


2.) 12 Jul 2020 23:36:54
He’s not terrible at all, he's composed on the ball and does look to create.


3.) 13 Jul 2020 09:11:31
Yes he does all that Firmane but it's the other side of his game that he really needs to improve on.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesn’t look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.


5.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:21
Haven't seen enough in the 2 seasons here to convince me he will be a regular starter in that midfield.


 

 

26 Jan 2020 23:36:46
I hope we don’t just go under 23s in the replay. It’s clear matip and Lovren need games, they looked welll off the pace - it’s the perfect time for them. I said before Adrian deserves another game, as I doubt he will get another all going well. There’s a big difference between a few fringe players and the best of the young guns, versus full under 23s. If I were Elliot, Jones, Williams or chiravella I’d be hoping to get a game for one, but I’d be hoping to have the best chance of winning it. I’d want another game after it.

From the squad today, maybe leave out salah Firmio, ox, fabinho and bring in a few others - but what If shaqiri is fit by then - has barely played im sure he’d be grateful for the minutes - origi too, Minamino barely played in months before joining us.

I’m happy to give youth a fair go at it in the cups, but the word there is fair - give them a helping Hand.

Firmane

1.) 27 Jan 2020 05:02:44
I agree, just keep pretty much the same players bar Fabinho in midfield, replace him with Lallana and I think we’re good. I’m sure the players would rather stay in the competition than not, it’s a highly competitive match anyway unless we just drop like we did today, at Anfield we should have more than enough to get the job done with the same team. I understand Klopp a frustration but it’s our fault we couldn’t get past a league 1 side, we knew beforehand that they do replays so it’s our fault. I hope this does inspire the FA to make the necessary changes to the FA cup and league cup, but these competitions are for the smaller clubs in England, the world can’t revolve around the big teams who have billions of pounds of investment to be able to cope with fixture congestion, it’s not right either way but it affects the clubs at the highest level and that’s like 5% of the clubs that enter the competitions in the first place. A winter break gets put in place when we haven’t had that before and still room for complaints, Klopp needs to be careful going at war with the FA, we know how corrupt they are and they might just stiff Liverpool over in the future. Klopp is known for not whining as highlighted by Mourinho last season, but that seems to be changing now that he’s at the pinnacle of football in England. Get the job done in the replay, if he fields the same team as vs Aston Villa he can do nothing about his reputation of not taking the domestic cups seriously.


2.) 27 Jan 2020 07:30:59
For the senior lads coming back from injury I think a hot weather break could be good for them, but lads like elliot, Jones, neco ect. Even origi and minamino will be knocking on his door desperate to play in that game, see how it pans out but I reckon those players would rather start a competitive game at anfield than go on holiday, could be wrong though, I don't know any of them personally.


3.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:05
Looks like all u23s. If I was fab, Matip, lovren I'd be begging for a another chance. they've had all the rest they need and owe the kids after that performance.


4.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:51
I agree. Matip Lovren Fabinho Minamino All looked short of being match ready especially at a higher level. Then you have the likes of Lallana Keita Milner Shaq (if fit) all need game time. Would be a shame if we ended up getting knocked out with such a good chance to go through.


5.) 27 Jan 2020 08:51:56
I agree but unfortunately some of the players may have booked breaks away etc and from what klopp is saying he dosent want to make them change plans.


6.) 27 Jan 2020 09:32:12
ed001 I thought Fabinho Matip lovren and Minamino where awful yesterday. And it did not look like they needed a week and I think after putting in a performance like that you would hope they would want to make things right am sure Henderson would. Also with Naby just coming back and my be even Milner there is a lot of player coming back that could do with the minutes to get back to full speed. ed I would like to know your thoughts on the winter break I all ways think when we have had a week off we never look the same in the first game back.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, the players need games to get sharp, not a winter break. If they need a rest then give them time off training. The winter break is a nonsense idea. Half the time we end up with bad weather breaking up the season at some point anyway. To work, the break needs to be longer than 2 weeks to make sense but even that is pointless as the teams who have one spend most of it doing a mini pre-season anyway.

What is needed is a proper summer break for all players, to ensure they get the chance to switch off and relax. A mid-season break does not allow the players to do so, any more than just having the games less crammed together during the season would do and teams giving the players a day or more off training every so often.}


7.) 27 Jan 2020 10:47:21
ed001 I could not agree more, to make time I think its time the carabao cup has to go, Are season start to early I feel the start of the carabao cup has something to do with that as the second round starts before most other leagues start. Then you have Klopp and all the other managers moaning, But every year the clubs travel all over the world on preseason tours. Then there is all the international tournaments that seem to be every summer now. If the carabao cup went we could bring the fa cup forward use a few of there dates for early midweek leagues Fixtures Because end of December to end of January is just to much. My be make Boxing day fixture the Fa cup 3rd round that would bring a bit of magic back to the Fa cup with it being such an iconic date for football.

{Ed001's Note - personally I don't think getting rid of the League Cup is the answer. Why that and not all those pre-season contests?}


8.) 27 Jan 2020 11:22:06
for me ed the league cup most of the time its just full of the kids who most of them will not make it and they don't expect them to make it. Even the lower league teams make changes for it. But I do think all the preseason stuff needs to go and they all so need to sort out all the international fixtures when you play 1 friendly and 1 qualifier all them silly friendly's with 11 subs just a waste of time. But I think its just Money driving the game and it just looks like instead of going the right way we are going the other way and will just end up with more games with the champions league and the club world cup getting bigger.

{Ed001's Note - the simplest way would be to remove mid-season internationals and just have two separate seasons. One for internationals and one for club competitions. Then it won't be so stop-start.}


9.) 27 Jan 2020 13:49:46
I agree with that one ed1, I'm also of the opinion to make the season shorter by cutting out internationals.
Then have a 6 week international period once the season is completed.

Its better for internationals as they can actually train together for a sustained period, the players are picked over a season rather than 10 good games. I also think people would pay more attention to them, at the minute they are seen as a needless distraction.

I do get it's not that simple as different countries run their seasons at different points due to weather etc.

As for preseason I would love it to go back to predominantly playing english teams (not prem teams) but won't happen as there is too much money in pointless pre season trophies.

{Ed001's Note - the international game is suffering because teams don't get to work together as well, so it makes no sense to continue as it is. The Brazilian World Cup team of 1970 spent months together before the tournament as a team, that is why they were so good.}


10.) 27 Jan 2020 15:29:49
I hope some day soon the international game becomes an U23 game like the Olympics (even if it is unofficial I. e. a few elite players resign setting off a chain of resignations from international football) . I can't see what elite footballers get out of playing international footy. People will still go out to watch international footy whether it be Harry Kane or Calvert Lewin.


11.) 27 Jan 2020 15:54:53
I think Eds and posters should look at what has really happened here rather than pointing the finger at Klopp and LFC. In June 2018 (no, that’s not a typo, 2018) the Premier League, the Football Association and the English Football League issued a joint announcement about a PL mid-season break to be introduced in February 2020. As part of that announcement, the FA chief executive stated :

"Today’s announcement proves that football can come together for the good of the game. We have also found a way to give the players a much needed mid-season break, whilst keeping the much-loved Christmas schedule in place. As we head into summer international tournaments in the future we are sure that this mid-season break will prove to be a valuable addition for our players. "

So the FA, fully supportive of the PL mid-season break, had 20 months to arrange the FA Cup 2019/ 20 calendar so that the mid-season break was respected. And they failed. So let’s lay off Klopp and LFC please guys.


12.) 28 Jan 2020 00:49:59
WW, i agree 100 per cent, I can't believe that some LFC fans are not fully behind Klopp and the owners,
the FA have, after nearly two years brought in this winter break, aimed at giving the players a much needed rest, and were told Not to play or arrange any matches during this period . Klopp is fully on board, he can see his players def need a break,
in fact, we usually see some injuries around the christmas period due to playing too many games close together, Vardy and Kane even Mane come to mind,
Klopp is protecting his players, believe in Klopp .


13.) 28 Jan 2020 02:31:47
Get League cup and FA cup replays sloshed. Play the 1 game and decide winner. now I would debate the venue to be pre fixed either as lower ranked team venue so they get sort of home adv or the higher placed venue so that they earn some cash.

Scrap international friendlies mid season. So this reduces the season by few weeks.

Arrange the NFL games and euro qualifiers during summer.


14.) 30 Jan 2020 23:09:20
Yeah, the FA replay games need to go. That will help.

Play full 90 and then straight to penalties. Scrap this replay nonsense.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.


3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}


5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}


7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.


8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!


 

 

13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

Firmane

1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

 

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03 Apr 2022 14:29:18
Everton got a very tough run in, they could actually go down… Burnley is the big one, if they lose that, could get very interesting.

Firmane

1.) 03 Apr 2022 16:30:56
This is the closest threat of them going down since the Fat Gazza day’s!


2.) 03 Apr 2022 17:18:39
I want Burnley down I hate their anti football! At least Everton try to play football! It’s a handy local Derby too!


3.) 03 Apr 2022 21:05:46
Heard they're trying to get Hans Segers out of retirement.


4.) 03 Apr 2022 21:44:18
With the state of their finances, if Everton go down they could "do a Leeds". They've got a tough run of games coming up, they could be well in the mire at the end of it.
What was it their fans were saying a few seasons ago, something along the lines of "we shop at Barca, you shop at Lidl"?
If ever a statement came back and bit anybody.


 

 

27 Feb 2022 22:53:26
Great win! Made up for kelleher (and klopps faith in him justified) and ground it out as a team. Extra kudos to elliot and konate for their pens, especially so late on, and young players. Three things for me 1) what a confidence booster, giving us great momentum for the final 3rd of the season. 2) subbing goalkeepers is crazy. Mendy was incredible today, and just won a penalty shootout. I do not get it, especially when klopp could have easily played Alisson. 3) whilst I’m delighted we won, worried about Thiago. We are a different team when he plays and without him, we sometimes can lack control. We need him fit for the run in!

Firmane

1.) 28 Feb 2022 00:25:51
I thought in his first season Thiago was awful there’s too much show boating and he has no idea how to press at the right time. I cringed when he was on the team sheet as I knew we’d get broken on after him losing the ball at least a dozen times in 90 minutes.
This season though he’s really improved and would be in my starting 11 every week. I don’t 100% agree on controlling the game with him in the team he does give us that vision a passing quality from midfield.
I thought we lost a bit of control after Hendo went off today. A midfield of Milly, Elliot and a tiring Fabinho did struggle to win and keep the ball enough.


2.) 28 Feb 2022 09:23:19
In fairness to him Becker, it was his first season in the premier league and it generally is a very tough league to adjust to. That added with the fact we lost our whole defence, Fabinho and henderson for long periods and he had injuries/ C.V., it is understandable he struggled. Although during the run towards the end of the season I felt he did show his quality.

Agree, I didn't agree with taking off Hendo. We lost complete control and whilst I think Elliott has the potential to be a very good player, it felt like a step too far to throw him into this match. He did really struggle to get on the ball but it all worked out in the end.


3.) 28 Feb 2022 09:46:24
People who doubt Thiago just don't get this sport. Imagine you sign a Barca, Bayern pedigree and doubt his abilities lol.


4.) 28 Feb 2022 11:10:26
There are things Thiago is good at, and others not so good, TT.
The good things are excellent though and outweigh his weaknesses.
I gave him a lot of grief last season, I was trying to understand where he fitted in but, in hindsight, the absences in the team were too much to properly judge him upon.
But you’d have to be blind to ignore his qualities and value to Liverpool, he shown enough to clearly demonstrate that.
He’s potentially key in the CL especially, that is his playground.
Let’s hope it’s just a strain or something minor.


5.) 28 Feb 2022 12:13:57
Thiago is world class, but his injury record is very concerning. Is it worth keeping him for the times he is fit, or could the salary allocated to him (and a significant salary it is supposed to be) be better used on another player? I don’t know, but when he plays he gives us something completely different in that midfield, I hope he can find a way to stay fitter for longer, he could be the difference between us winning more silverware if he does.


6.) 02 Mar 2022 09:21:58
Thiago is an awesome player but needs others to do legwork around him imo. Fab can do that but Hendo (legend that he is) is losing that ability.


 

 

16 Feb 2022 20:31:06
30 mins in and what a game to watch. Two teams pressing high, fast paced and the ref letting the soft stuff play, which helps the game. Could be 3-0 either way at the end, 3-3 or 0-0.!

Firmane

1.) 16 Feb 2022 20:53:22
Half time, 0 shots on target both teams. I think it’s been a bit garbage to be honest, I can see UCL switching back to away goals after this season.


2.) 16 Feb 2022 21:01:36
We are playing poorly, if we were at our best we’d be 2-3 up by now. Inter can’t seem to deal with the high press but we are being wasteful. Mane looks poor as usual, like he’s lost a yard. would really like to Klopp to be ruthless and start easing Diaz in now. Elliot tbf looks nervous but it’s a big game for him. Vidal is pretty much man marking Thiago out the game so will be an interesting 2nd half.


3.) 16 Feb 2022 21:32:44
Bobby firmino is not what we needed and he come on for lord knows why. We’ve evolved past needing the Bobby role so he doesn’t offer much to the team anymore. Klopp is amazing but he’s got a lot wrong today.

{Ed0666's Note - you were saying mate?


4.) 16 Feb 2022 21:37:31
Oh Sailor Jerry that's just embarrassing!


5.) 16 Feb 2022 21:43:43
Sailor Jerry, next time just criticise Keita. You know he’s always guaranteed to be rubbish. They way Dzeko ran off him by the right corner was embarrassing. Cannot be trusted at elite European level, thought we’d learnt this from the group stages. His lack of tracking back will be punished against better opposition.


6.) 16 Feb 2022 21:54:54
Sailor Jerry 😂
2 shots on target, 2 goals. Brilliant.


7.) 16 Feb 2022 21:56:18
What? I thought Keita was really good tonight.


8.) 16 Feb 2022 22:01:29
Thought Keita actually did alright when he came on Josh. And I think it's well established that I'm not a fan of him.

{Ed0666's Note - I agree Keita actually put himself about and got stuck in. Credit where credit is due.


9.) 16 Feb 2022 22:09:04
I'm sorry but singling out Keita when there were a couple of other players that had absolute stinkers tonight just shows you have an agenda against him.


10.) 16 Feb 2022 22:16:02
Agree i thought Naby played well tonight. A little bit more confidence and he would have had a good chance of scoring rather than trying to play Diaz in.

We weren’t great tonight and that’s 2 games in a row now that we’ve not played well but we won both. Perhaps we are having a little performance blip but the best teams in history have won playing poorly so that is an amazing trait.

It’s very strange that the next leg is like over a month away and we have a domestic cup final sandwiched in between the 2 legs. One of the great things about the CL for me was seeing two teams go at it over 2 legs a week or so apart.


11.) 16 Feb 2022 22:18:24
Keita had a good game when he came on. He had a good game at the weekend.

Great result against a very good side. Make no mistake, they’re a good side.


12.) 16 Feb 2022 22:22:38
Weird. I actually think the lads that came on were the right changes and played well. The midfield boys helped regain the control, Bobby scored and Diaz liked lively.

Hard place to come, inter played very well and crowd was up for it… 2-0 is a great outcome

Hopefully Jota injury not too serious.


13.) 16 Feb 2022 22:33:10
Several people looking like muppets tonight for needlessly slagging players off when they actually did well tonight.
I never can get my head round the desire to do that, it's almost as if it means more than a brilliant scoreline for us.
It takes all sorts I suppose.


14.) 16 Feb 2022 22:36:34
The captain and Keita the difference makers tonight when they came on.

{Ed0666's Note - to be fair it was a low bar. No seriously that was a pig of a tie against a very efficient Milan side who are no mugs they could have easily won or drawn that game. Made up for the win and like you say props to Naby and Hendo when they came on. The game was still to pinball machine for my liking as no one player took control. It was a tricky tie we won ugly and makes the return a heck of a lot easier at 2-0 up then 0-0


15.) 16 Feb 2022 22:40:41
It takes all sorts to support the time blindly. Do you you think Klopp made 4 changes because all was going splendidly?


16.) 16 Feb 2022 22:55:00
Che26, you’ve completely missed the point. Players are getting slagged off repeatedly on here. Those players came on tonight and changed the game. Klopp got it right, and knows his squad more than any of us on here do, I’m man enough to admit that, are you?


17.) 16 Feb 2022 22:58:24
Well said mate inter no mugs and hostile crowd so great win by the boys
Trent and moe probably worse two player's on the pitch
But good team effort and abit of help from the over the hill mob got us by.


18.) 16 Feb 2022 23:00:19
It's quite funny everyone trying to be nice about keita. For me it was about a 4/ 10 performance from him.
Is it just he's normally 3 or less out of ten?
Maybe before the end of the season we might get some 5-6/ 10 performances. let's hope so could help Liverpool be more of a success in the cups. And and a million £+ when we sell him.


19.) 16 Feb 2022 23:08:26
inspired subs.


20.) 16 Feb 2022 23:17:48
Negative you're living upto your name atleast! People aren't just trying to be nice they're just backing up what was a decent enough performance from him, he's been awful almost everytime he's wore the shirt but if you want to criticise the performances when he's been bad it's only fair to give credit when he plays a bit better, I'm not by any means saying he was perfect tonight but he did well enough to be spared the slating for atleast 1 night.

{Ed0666's Note - I would start him against Norwich


21.) 16 Feb 2022 23:27:47
I’ve said it before, but as a fan that was a great game to watch. I thought it was entertaining and a really good win against a strong team on their own patch with a very partisan crowd.

In the past 4 days we have had two really difficult opponents who play different styles and in different conditions and we have won both games. I get that we aren’t perfect, which I think is a good thing in itself - if we ever play the perfect game what’s the point of watching the next game?

I’ve also said that the mark of a great side is that the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. I think that describes us - by and large we find ways to win even if one or two (or perhaps seven or eight) aren’t “on song’.

Anyway, like I say, I like watching entertaining football and I got full value for money tonight and will be watching the next one.

Sorry for enjoying a game of footy.


22.) 16 Feb 2022 23:37:40
Isn't it a curious thing that we can come away with a fantastic away result plus the bonus of a clean sheet, and yet some are more interested in slagging a player off who actually did well.
What a way to celebrate an uneaten CL run this season.


23.) 16 Feb 2022 23:42:26
Well said WDW, completely sums it all up for me as well. Win, lose, or draw, we’re a great watch at the moment. Anything could happen, but we usually come out on top. It would be boring if we won every game 3-0. Personally, that’s the point I’d stop watching, what’d be the point? Perfect balance at the moment for me.


24.) 16 Feb 2022 23:47:29
Completely agree WDW, I enjoyed the game, good performance by the lads and the subs swing the momentum just as Inter were tiring.
Perfect timing to inject extra energy into midfield with Henderson and Keita, Bobby was excellent, both centre backs awesome.
What do people want, lol?
Two nil away against the Italian champions will do me every day of the week.


25.) 16 Feb 2022 23:54:29
Keita and Henderson were outstanding when they came on. Fabinho and Thiago take some outperforming but they well and truly were by the aforementioned Keita and Hendo, there is no dispute. Went from end to end to sheer control, spare the slander and enjoy the win. Are we fans or critics. YNWA? Becoming more of a joke than a motto.


26.) 17 Feb 2022 04:24:47
Great, great result! Decisive subs that made the difference.

Funnily enough, I thought Trent had a shocker. Constantly beaten down the right. Virgil even had a pop at him. Adds fuel to the fire of those who say he can't defend. Don't misinterpret, he'S one of our best, his name is on my kids shirt but tonight .


27.) 17 Feb 2022 06:31:09
@ Lfcsammy I genuinely didn't feel I was being to negative. I just feel that it wasn't a good performance by him. Maybe I've just got high expectations.
@potclay totally agree even the Mrs was saying Trent wasn't up to much this game. In fact I'd give him a 4/ 10 as well.


28.) 17 Feb 2022 07:11:32
We didn't play particularly well, subs changed the game imo. We won away at inter. Great result. Well done lads. We move on to Norwich. Boom.


29.) 17 Feb 2022 07:11:44
I don’t think trent had a bad game I think it was more they over loaded that side of he pitch and used that to get passed him! Also am not a big fan but keita did well last night. All the subs made a massive difference.


30.) 17 Feb 2022 07:52:39
Really makes me wonder how many people on this site have actually played football at a decent level. Keita was poor, everything he did was practically one touch like he was too scared to actually get on the ball and try and make a difference.

The reason the game swung in our favour once the subs came on was because Diaz was sprinting around, getting on the ball and actually running at their defenders.


31.) 17 Feb 2022 08:00:08
Sailor i totaly agree with you. Up to the goal firmino lost the ball everytime he got it. Then again he's a forward and finds the net. I think he's been struggling this whole season. Maybe time to start mane in middle and Diaz on the left.


32.) 17 Feb 2022 08:23:35
Keita did well when he came on. What game were you all watching to give him stick?


33.) 17 Feb 2022 08:40:19
Tough opponents last night in a hostile stadium. I was hoping Henderson would come on for the 2nd half, we just couldn't keep the ball. Looked more comfortable in the second half and Bobby's header was a belter.


34.) 17 Feb 2022 08:44:09
can we just agree we have built a great squad that gives us options each game? This hierarchical attitude to players performances just gets of base with the idea that we need a squad.


35.) 17 Feb 2022 08:55:12
I wonder what decent level where more touches equals better play Joshke has played at. That sounds like Sunday league to me. Keita played good last night and let's hope that continues.


36.) 17 Feb 2022 10:38:09
I think it’s harsh to criticise a player for taking one touch, my view on that is that Keita was moving the ball quickly and efficiently, which is what Klopp wants from him. I thought he helped us gain some control because he was able to help us retain possession better with his one touch passing.


37.) 17 Feb 2022 11:33:46
I have NO no idea where all the Keita slander is coming from cos I thought he was a big part of changing the tide of the game in our favor along with Hendo. I’m not his biggest fan and would love to see the back of him but give Naby his flowers, the guy was very good.

As for the game, I’m with WDW. It was a belter where me you could see our team had a plan of action and Inter had clearly prepared for us cos they pressed us high and kept the energies up in their balk recovery sequences. They were right up for it and it showed.

We made the adjustments in the second half and took back control of the game and pretty much ave one foot in the quarters. This is is big boy footie vs a proven opponent with pedigree and a track record and heritage in the comp. We ain’t talking about Man City here. Inter are a no mugs and am happy we got the result.


38.) 17 Feb 2022 12:39:43
On another note it has to be said regarding Fabio Capello and Paolo Di Canio in the words of a well informed Italian by the name of Joe Dolce ah shaddappa ya face.


39.) 17 Feb 2022 16:40:33
Oli, my view on Keita is if he can stay fit and he plays like he’s done this season when selected, I’d be happy if he stays, as he’s clearly a good footballer with something to offer. He’s clearly popular with the rest of the squad and let’s face it, wouldn’t we all rather have him be long term success than a Pogba style flop. Even if it did take longer to get there?


 

 

14 Oct 2021 23:00:58
Is it just me or are these international breaks getting silly now. Brazil playing tomorrow?! And then to top it all, another one in 4 weeks time. I get it has to happen, but why can’t they merge these two breaks into one. Get 5/ 6 games played over 4 weeks and be done with it for the year.

Firmane

1.) 15 Oct 2021 00:18:45
You are Arsenal Wenger and I claim my £5 😉.


2.) 15 Oct 2021 06:43:59
Arsene - damn autocorrect 🙂.


3.) 15 Oct 2021 07:07:20
So you want Liverpool to be without our 3 Brazilians for 4 weeks? How many games could that be?


4.) 15 Oct 2021 08:23:44
Obviously the leagues stop for these 4 weeks rather than stopping for 2 weeks three times before Christmas.


 

 

22 Sep 2021 00:54:44
Complete side point, but how consistent is kostas at corners? Or crossing in general. Attacking wise he is right up there with Robbo this season. I know Robbo has proved it over many seasons but if a player steps up and earns his place it’s arguable he should keep it, no matter who they are keeping out.

Firmane

1.) 22 Sep 2021 01:52:51
I agree with the form player keeping the spot if the players for the position are well matched. Certainly you can’t fault the lad for effort. Good for Robbo too if he knows he has to raise his game to get in the starting side.


2.) 22 Sep 2021 02:18:03
Best corner taker we have. Regularly beats the first man and delivers in or around the penalty spot. Hard to replace Robbo though but sensible rotation surely?


3.) 22 Sep 2021 05:45:18
Robbo is one of my favourite players but I’ll be honest on current form he’s our 2nd best left back and he’s not even playing poorly. So shows what a great problem Klopp and us have.
If there was a massive game this weekend I think Robbo would start though as he has Klopps trust.


4.) 22 Sep 2021 06:46:44
I thought Timiskas was unlucky to lose his place against Chelsea.


5.) 22 Sep 2021 08:24:28
It gives us great options. Klopp can use Tsimikas in front of Robbo in a 4-4-2 that we sometimes use.


6.) 22 Sep 2021 09:44:16
I say well done scouting team. The management for his first settlement season. Let’s be honest it wasn’t long ago most fans were not impressed with this business even if it was cheap and confirmed back up. Shows they actually do know more then us. (Except Naby)


7.) 22 Sep 2021 10:47:35
Incredible to think that we have another left back who we would even consider being competitive for Robertson's place in the team, and that's without Robertson declining or playing poorly - i. e. it's down to Tsimikas being that good.

I think it's sensible to see how Tsimikas performs over a longer period of time - and I expect his chances will still be limited unless Robertson gets injured - but if he is as good as is being suggested then we would arguably have the two best left backs in the league (Robertson is the best so if Tsimikas is as good/ almost as good, then he's also got to be right up there), for combined transfer fees of £20m, plus the best right back in the league who we didn't pay a transfer fee for at all. At a time when decent full backs cost £50m+, that's a pretty good position to be in.


8.) 22 Sep 2021 14:21:13
Robbo had better up his game cos the Greek Freak is nothing to mess with. Just ask his fellow Greek Freak Giannis Antetokoumpo in the NBA.


 

 

 

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02 May 2022 22:20:58
If ox and origi leaves this year, we’re basically missing 5/ 10 games a season. With 5 forwards vying for 3 spots, all of whom are class, then there is limited space. Then midfield of Thiago hendo Milner Keita fabinho Elliot and Jones - sounds enough on paper.

However with Milner barely playing until recently, and seemingly klopp not feeling ready to trust Elliot or Jones in the biggest games, I have a feeling one may go out on loan - I’d pick Jones myself (with the idea that he does come back into the picture when Milner goes) . That gives space for me for one creative midfielder, who can play in a theee or wide forward if needed (like ox) with Milner Henderson and most of the traditional 3 getting on, it should be a young gun, hopefully.

Rb cover - Gomez has done well for me, and adds a more defensively assured option than Trent - and of course can play cb when needed.
Given we are playing twice a week, and minamino hasn’t even got on, not sure he even does need replacing. Having a deep squad but not overstacked gives opportunities for the youth to step in.

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01 May 2022 11:09:34
I kind of agree with the b2b bit - is that what we need. I think a mid that works hard but is more creative, like a David silva type would be amazing.

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18 Apr 2022 12:25:58
I’m torn with Gomez, think he’s as good a right back and centre back cover we can get, but he needs more games than that. If he’s happy fighting, I’d like him to stay. I think AOCs time has come, and it seems minamino too. Shame for minamino but the signings of jota and Diaz have shown he’s not of that ilk. To compete on all fronts, he is 6th choice and must know that. If we lose origi and him, do we need a replacement or can elliot cover there if needed? I still think one of mane firmino or salah will leave, and pray we replace. The last few games have shown how vital good rotation is, and hope Diaz wasn’t a replacement signed early and that’s that.

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16 Apr 2022 17:56:38
So screwed.

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03 Mar 2022 20:12:40
Ed002 you always have great insight on this, are these plans concrete? Just seems hectic this, playing 2 times a week all year, will just mean bigger squads for me, and top teams poaching more players.

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{Ed002's Note - No, the "elite" sides continue to discuss the matter but will not meet again until August 24. Two sides are pressing hard.}


 

 

 

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18 May 2022 13:50:24
I thought he played well enough, but still makes bad decisions, and holds for too long. Almost a bit grealish like (without being a d*ck) where it looks good, but not always useful.

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16 Apr 2022 19:49:27
They gifted us goals means we were better and we didn’t gift them any in the first half. Of course they came out stronger in the second, but we knew we had to contain and maintain, not go out like it’s 0-0.

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09 Apr 2022 21:14:14
I don’t know if that is true or not, but I highly doubt that’s what walkon was meaning. I always just thought it was manure like s**t.

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07 Apr 2022 08:00:42
The run looks bad too, not many games against teams down there. Unlike Burnley.

Ed025, this could be quite crippling for the club, are there serious financial worries if this happens?

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30 Mar 2022 23:17:10
Horses for courses for me. City away, I’d still play Bobby. Jota off the bench. Maybe other games where we don’t need a false nine, but jota can play that role, or mane, but we need to be able to change things, and Bobby offers what others can’t.

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