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02 Jun 2023 14:22:20
Bit of a reverse transfer question.
Apart from the known outgoings, is there any interest in our players?

You have mentioned Salah's agent hawking him around for one last big pay day.

With us not in CL, and Klopps statement, he would drive the player himself, I am actually not worried about us loosing players, but is there any rumblings?

HardkaareKop

{Ed002's Note - Yes but nothing beyond what I have said.}


 

 

15 Feb 2019 12:59:00
Not my normal entry, but I overheard Eriksen from Tottenham for a cool 90 to a 100 mill, as a direct Coutinho replacement.
Apparently talks have been ongoing a while, which is why He hasn't extended with Tottenham and has snubbed Real.

HardkaareKop

1.) 15 Feb 2019 13:59:11
I wouldn't pay half that for Eriksen. Ridiculous.


2.) 15 Feb 2019 14:07:37
Doubt it.

Wish we had bought him under BR when we were linked with him for like a month then Spurs came in and snabbed him!


3.) 15 Feb 2019 16:08:54
This is the Liverpool page? Coutinho plays for Barcelona and Eriksen plays for Spurs?

Unless you mean that Liverpool will be replacing Coutinho? Which makes even less sense as the player left over a year ago and we've been doing fine without him. We don't even play in a way that anyone like Coutinho would fit into?

Very odd post.


4.) 15 Feb 2019 17:40:06
My thoughts too RedDawn.


5.) 15 Feb 2019 17:56:39
I'd take him all day long, but not for near £90m with a year left on his contract.


6.) 15 Feb 2019 18:06:07
I’d sooner spend the money on Werner, but what do I know.


7.) 15 Feb 2019 19:15:23
Run - I don’t know how much you know but Werner is seriously overrated but maybe klopp can make him better like so many others.


8.) 15 Feb 2019 19:23:06
Maybe to Barcelona to replace Coutinho.


9.) 15 Feb 2019 19:32:25
Relevance to Liverpool?


10.) 15 Feb 2019 20:15:57
1jj - I can only confess to watching him play a few times but I was impressed with his pace and attitude to pressing.
Apparently his composure is debateable and sometimes too eager to get forward but over 50goals at 22 in the last few years is an impressive option for Jurgen to mould.
I don’t really know how viable a move for him is, but Jurgen knows the Bundasliga and probably what he can do to improve the lad. Let’s see what happens in the summer but I’m sure a few clubs will be looking at him.


11.) 15 Feb 2019 21:48:50
Maybe Coutinho’s replacement at Barca.


12.) 15 Feb 2019 22:22:39
I was more concerned by this:

“Not my normal entry, ” 🤨.


13.) 16 Feb 2019 08:46:56
Never mind Werner - promote Glatzel.


14.) 16 Feb 2019 11:45:30
Klopp replaced Coutinho tactically. Keita Fabinho and Hendo. Then wijnaldum and milner started the season in great form, our new signings had to settle, Hendo struggled with some injuries. Now we have 5 great players for 3 spots and don't need Coutinho. Add in Ox is almost back. We don't need money spent there. We would end up in City's situation where your record signing is on the bench most games. I believe the key to our improvement is buying young and replacing our high earners that are essentially second team (Moreno, Milner, Lallana, Sturridge) . Certainly need a fullback in the off-season.


15.) 17 Feb 2019 08:09:24
Just posting what I overheard.
Eriksen coming up from London to Merseyside.
I took the liberty of assuming it must be Christian Eriksen and that it wasn't Everton he was going to.

As I know the former player is still friends with another team mate former pl player ( turned agent and his first name was mentioned too) .


16.) 17 Feb 2019 08:10:51
Who knows: maybe it was Magdalena Erikson from Chelsea they were talking about.


17.) 17 Feb 2019 09:40:59
Sven going to manage the blues 😄.


 

 

19 Mar 2015 19:46:38
Anything on Tello in the upcoming window ? Will he be going back to Barca or do we have a chance ?

He has been doing well in Portugal, and is still young. Macca wrote last year about the strong interest from us, but it all disappeared. Did he flatly refuse to join us or was there other factors ?

HardkaareKop

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool moved on - it is not going happen. Tello will look to stay at Porto.}


 

 

 

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20 May 2023 08:42:18
Question: What happened to Macca Rumours?

Been away for a few years, and only just returned to this site recently

HardkaareKop

{Ed033's Note - Macca hasn't posted on here for a long time, so the Macca Rumours page was removed.


1.) 21 May 2023 10:06:06
Didn't noticed he'd returned ed. still the macca name.

{Ed002's Note - He hasn't.}


2.) 21 May 2023 10:36:44
Think he means he’s just returned.


3.) 21 May 2023 13:05:54
We need an Akira rumour page!


4.) 21 May 2023 15:12:05
I think one of the reasons he left was because of all of the abuse he received.


5.) 21 May 2023 15:44:40
Stone, depends on who you ask.


 

 

14 Jan 2019 11:25:19
Old school perhaps, but what is happening with all these injuries.
(And not just at us) .
I remember Paisley saying he wouldn't buy Trevor Francis because he got injured to often.
Players do seem to miss more games through injuries than yesteryear.
At the same time (at least in the PL era) almost every club have dieticians, doctors and god knows what.
We also have a lot bigger squads for rotation purposes (even 3 substitutes now)
Maybe it's my nostalgic/ romantic football brain, but are players getting more injured/ playing less than say 35-40 years ago?

HardkaareKop

1.) 14 Jan 2019 11:52:48
Maybe they are more cautious these days, keeping players out as a precaution rather than just chuck em on like they used to?


2.) 14 Jan 2019 11:57:34
players played on with injuries 30-40 years ago. If they fell out of the team there was a good chance they wouldn't get back in. Also they didn't get paid the crazy money they do now so they really did need the pay checks.

Now a days everything is monitored and small niggles are picked up on and they don't play even if the player themselves wants to. there is also the 'red zone' where players are more likely to pick up injuries so they will be rested.

{Ed025's Note - your right HRP, they have turned into real farts now mate..


3.) 14 Jan 2019 14:39:10
The game has changed also let's not forget. Its a lot more intense nowadays. The level of opposition is also of a greater standard. More money involved now also. So the manager is under greater pressure to deliver.


4.) 14 Jan 2019 19:13:06
They are hand bags I played a year with a broken toe 😂 if I was on 200k a year I’d play with one leg if I could 😂.


5.) 14 Jan 2019 19:22:00
Most players of yesteryear were finished by 27 years old because of playing through injuries and are now in a position where they are suffering from serious joint issues and even brain damage.

Yesterday's players weren't bigger men just because their world lacked the education ours has today.

{Ed002's Note - This is complete trash as I am sure you must know.}


6.) 14 Jan 2019 19:46:51
The standard of football, and especially the fitness of players is different nowadays. Years ago the players who had a slight injury could get away with playing through it. Today with the pace and intensity of the game, if you are not 100% fit, you would be found out, and be letting the team down. As good as Salah is, he would not be as affective, if he was only 90% fit.

{Ed002's Note - Affective is what he keeps being accused of.}


7.) 14 Jan 2019 20:11:05
Disagree if you want Ed002 but my opinion is backed up by science, case studies, statistics, expert opinions and more. I respect your opinion as always but in this instance, I simply have to agree to disagree. Players are better looked after nowadays and it is improving all the time. The only thing modern sports are still lacking in is mental health and head injuries, in my opinion.

The players of old weren't super human. They also suffered injuries. The difference was that the media was not as accessible for people to know about them and players would have to play through them due to smaller squads and medical staff and players simply not knowing (or maybe caring) about the long term implications.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I know you've had a lot of abuse lately but I feel I have a right to dispute your "trash" comment.

{Ed002's Note - You will need to point me at the science that proves that MOST players prior to this current crop were finished at 27. And the science that substantiates that MOST are now suffering from serious joint issues and even brain damage. Phil Thompson apart with the brain damage, that might be a struggle, but I am sure you will astound me with the wonders of science. It is abject nonsense, sorry.}


8.) 14 Jan 2019 20:51:12
The point was supposed to be that players retire later now, and that injuries are being taken more seriously due to a better understanding of medical science. I'm sorry I bit back though, because in hindsight I did let my emotions dilute my point via excessive exaggeration but I was wound up by what was being implied. My generation follow the lessons of our predecessors and then get called "soft" by the same people telling us not to "make the same mistakes".

I can see now why my post didn't read to others how it sounded in my head though. I stand by what I was meant to say though. Medical science is better now and that has helped players during and after their career. In 50 years it'll be even better still and people will talk about how my generation were clueless about psychological wellbeing and head injuries!


 

 

21 Oct 2018 13:17:35
More of a question.
How much influence does Klopp have with our scouting system now?

I like to believe the he is leading/ influencing our style, but would he be directly dealing with youngsters 3-5 years away from stardom or would he be restricted to first team?

HardkaareKop

{Ed001's Note - scouting or coaching?}


1.) 24 Oct 2018 11:50:01
Both.
Is he having a say in what type of young (non first team) player we go for, and is he providing the "blueprint" on how the reserve and youth teams should play/ train?

{Ed001's Note - the former no, the latter to a degree yes.}


2.) 25 Oct 2018 13:04:16
Thanks.
As always very informative.
Who is responsible for the young buys then?
Is it made on financial grounds (possible selling value to a lower ranked club, at least covering development cost) .

Hope for a possible future superstar (again £££) all pointing to forward thinking players, or does the club have a longterm Paisley style strategy in place?

Can't see if our academy really have the longterm influence I was hoping for.

{Ed001's Note - the academy has staff that scout and recruit players for it. Older than that and they are the responsibility of Klopp to say yes or no. In the last couple of years the club had tried to replicate the Chelsea strategy, but failed and now there are changes coming in to limit loan moves hopefully that will be scrapped as it doesn't really work in the long term.}


 

 

03 Apr 2018 12:21:41
Just thinking of the youngster.
Are players like Wilson, Brannagan etc on Klopps radar for next season, instead of being loaned out?

At 21 I think we are getting close to that "make or break" choice.

Also Sessegnion? Are we in his ear, and a realistic option for him to come, or do I smell another Tottenham hijack of a promising player?

HardkaareKop

1.) 03 Apr 2018 13:13:45
Brannagan has already left the club?


2.) 03 Apr 2018 13:15:09
Ed has already said for almost two years now that Sessegnon is a no go cos Fulham will simply not deal w/ us since the whole Clint Dempsey nonsense. Spurs is where he wants to go and Fulham would rather deal with them than with us. It has nothing to do with hijacking or anything like that.


3.) 03 Apr 2018 13:27:29
Think the relationship between the clubs may have eased slightly with the loan of Ojo this season so there is a slight chance.


4.) 03 Apr 2018 14:08:24
Probably, Molby. We shall see.


5.) 03 Apr 2018 14:14:48
that youngster will end up at Spurs .


6.) 03 Apr 2018 15:47:34
He's off to United from what I've been hearing mate.


7.) 03 Apr 2018 16:15:57
Not that it makes a difference, but am I right in thinking he is a Liverpool fan? Thought I'd heard that somewhere. I know players come and go and ones we'd like end up elsewhere but if he truly is the real deal, he should be purchased and developed for a couple of years at Fulham on loan. I can't see the attack not needing a freshen up in a couple of years and him and Mane vying for the same spot may be perfect. Can't let these types keep slipping through the net!


8.) 03 Apr 2018 18:24:17
I also heard he is a liverpool fan so if he decides this is the place he wants to go to and we make an acceptable offer i don't think fulham qould stand in the way of that. Doubt he will be a LB though.


9.) 03 Apr 2018 19:28:33
Being a Liverpool fan to me, is of no difference as players in the end, go o teams where they know they will flourish or think they will. A lot of players who have signed for us were Everton or Utd fans BUT that did not stop them from performing for us in their careers. I know people are hung up on that stuff but not me. If you can play for your boyhood club then go for it as that is a bonus. To me, I want a player who can hack it here and being a fan does not make you said player.


 

 

16 Sep 2015 21:27:16
Would love us in a simple 3-5-2 setup, with old fashioned speedy wingers, that can defend and attack.

2 Centre backs (take your pick), supported by a Libero in defence. This has to be somebody with experience to organise a defence, but just maybe it would be good to see Illori develop in such a role.

A defensive ball controlling midfielder in Rossiter(even Allen would flourish in such a role), with the 2 wingers in maybe Clyne and Moreno. and two forward thinking defensive hard working midfielders (Henderson/ Lalana ?/ Milner/ Firminho ?/ Coutinho or ?

2 man up front. As an old timer in the LFC fan base, I do have a pendant for the big & small set up, and would love to see Coutinho up there with Benteke (if he is not used in midfield) or a player like Ibe with a fit Sturridge. Plenty of offensive options :-)

HardkaareKop

1.) 16 Sep 2015 23:05:48
3-5-2 relies on wing backs to work effectively as opposed to straightforward wingers.


2.) 16 Sep 2015 23:07:49
We don't have 2 good centre backs never mind three. Plus clyne and Gomez don't deserve to be dropped, although Gomez could be one of the three. We just need a good back four, not try and change every week. Plus even if clyne and moreno are wing backs, our best players are attacking, in the sense of hendo Coutinho firmino benteke and sturridge and they won't all for in that system


3.) 17 Sep 2015 01:49:57
They won't all fit in an sensible system


4.) 17 Sep 2015 05:59:32
No matter how many defenders you add, we would continue to concede goals.


5.) 17 Sep 2015 06:06:38
3-5-2 will not happen. You are simply taking out one attacker from the game and adding another defender.
Moreover BR has 5 CM and 3 ACM with them, All big money players and assured positions and game time.

How would you accommodate them?


6.) 17 Sep 2015 08:49:43
So we are up to 8 assured players now Hazza?


 

 

 

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15 Jul 2023 03:14:30
Seem to remember we were very keen to sign Salah, before Chelsea swopped in.

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29 Jun 2023 13:25:04
Nobody else worried?
Buy now, get player in 1 year.
Same as Keita.

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17 Feb 2019 08:10:51
Who knows: maybe it was Magdalena Erikson from Chelsea they were talking about.

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17 Feb 2019 08:09:24
Just posting what I overheard.
Eriksen coming up from London to Merseyside.
I took the liberty of assuming it must be Christian Eriksen and that it wasn't Everton he was going to.

As I know the former player is still friends with another team mate former pl player ( turned agent and his first name was mentioned too) .

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14 Jan 2019 11:09:59
Didn't a very young Steven Gerrard have a stint on the right back 😉.

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26 Jan 2024 00:04:30
England tended to prefer a guy called Shearer as number 9.
He wasn't a bad player either ?

Owen versus Fowler?
Owen would react to play and get into the right position.
Fowler predicted play and then was in the right position.

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01 Jul 2023 01:37:00
Ed 25

Are you sure it wasn't the other way around.

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{Ed025's Note - i was thinking if it was the raffle from hell mate.. :)


 

 

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01 Jul 2023 01:14:03
Remember we bought Ince from Inter.
Proven midfield enforcer, instead of emerging talent.

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21 May 2019 14:09:25
Zeddicus I get your thinking, but don't play into the agents hands.

No reason to sell Salah, massive monnies will not change that. Especially if Hazard is going there as well.

A side with Hazard and Salah on either side is mouth watering from a football fans point of view, but let's just wait and see.

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25 Oct 2018 13:04:16
Thanks.
As always very informative.
Who is responsible for the young buys then?
Is it made on financial grounds (possible selling value to a lower ranked club, at least covering development cost) .

Hope for a possible future superstar (again £££) all pointing to forward thinking players, or does the club have a longterm Paisley style strategy in place?

Can't see if our academy really have the longterm influence I was hoping for.

HardkaareKop

{Ed001's Note - the academy has staff that scout and recruit players for it. Older than that and they are the responsibility of Klopp to say yes or no. In the last couple of years the club had tried to replicate the Chelsea strategy, but failed and now there are changes coming in to limit loan moves hopefully that will be scrapped as it doesn't really work in the long term.}


 

 





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