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21 May 2021 07:17:25
Whilst I accept we won't be making any offers for kane all the pundits have him nailed on for City and that makes them unbeatable. But surely with FFP if they spend £150 mill on a player they will have to have some serious outgoings? Do you think any of the likes of jesus laporte ake Garcia Torres Silva maybe will be actively looked to be sold. Would Jesus or Laporte be worth a look for us? Personally I think if spurs could get Laporte/ Ake and Jesus and £50 mill for Kane they would be crazy not to do so.
Also will we be looking to add a keeper at all I presume Adrian will be leaving.

Ibiza Red

1.) 21 May 2021 08:25:19
Garcia out of contract in the summer lad, supposed to be off to Barcelona.

2.) 21 May 2021 08:26:27
Kane is not better than Aguero of 3 years ago when we battered them 5-1 in the Champions League. Unbeatable? We slapped Bayern with Lewandowski. We slapped PSG with Neymar and Mbappe. We slapped Spurs with Kane in a Champions League final. We battered Barcelona 4-0 with only 1 of our front 3 despite them having Messi.

Have a word with yourself mate.

3.) 21 May 2021 09:00:55
150mil for Kane when Haaland is available for a similar price makes no sense to me.

4.) 21 May 2021 10:24:07
Haaland is another level above kane and a better investment also, if you bidding 100m + for a striker.

5.) 21 May 2021 10:38:31
Ibiza Red, I don't think we need to worry about who City gets unless they are after the same players that we want. While having Kane to replace Aguero is important for City, I won't say that they are unbeatable. On our day, we can beat anyone, try asking Barca.

But it will concern me if other clubs strengthen and we don't. I hope we don't mess up the transfer window and we'll bring in some good additions and get rid of the players that won't get a chance to play.

6.) 21 May 2021 11:25:32
Mk Scouser I am not saying they will be unbeatable I am saying that's what many pundits have been saying. That if City sign Kane they basically wrap everything up.

7.) 21 May 2021 11:30:41
And your comparisons are almost stupid. Kane added to an already very very good squad is not like playing against a spurs with kane or even a barcelona squad of a few years ago that have been past their best for a very long time. But the main reason for the post was wondering if City will be restricting in even bidding for Kane or Haaland because of FFP even though we know they have the money to buy either one. So MK I don't need to have a word with myself thanks.

8.) 21 May 2021 12:24:23
Kane would be a fantastic addition to City. he already creates so much and puts away goals in a crappy spurs team. can you imagine him with sterling, b. silva, mahrez funning around him and de bruyne, gundogan, foden pulling strings behind him. hahaha, just hatin' to say he would make no difference lol.

doesn't mean we can't beat em, but c'mon now.

9.) 21 May 2021 12:35:35
City will just pay their way out of any FFP fines, FFP is a load of bollox that let's owners like ours hide behind it.

10.) 21 May 2021 12:37:21
The way you wrote it came across as though you thought it makes them unbeatable. If it was genuinely just bad wording then of course, it is the pundits who need to have a word with themselves. My comparisons are most definitely not stupid though. One good players doesn't make a team. Adding an elite player to a good team also doesn't guarantee success. Injuries can happen. Squad balance can be affected. Style of play can be affected.

I couldn't care less where Kane goes next season. The colour of the shirt he wears in Van Dijks pocket is irrelevant to me.

11.) 21 May 2021 13:20:04
Signing Kane to replace Aguero makes sense. Their squad on paper at least will be stronger than the squad of this season with Aguero mostly out injured. I don’t think it makes them a stronger squad than the one we saw the season previously to this year though. So next year and the year after when we are back to normal again will they be unbeatable? No. Not for me. They will be as strong as the team we beat to the league last year for me, so a there or thereabouts team as usual. If we have an injury free season next year then I would still fancy us for first or second.
And saying all that, who’s to say Kane won’t flop? We have seen plenty of great players move over the years and we have all said they will be unstoppable and then it all goes wrong for them. Torres to Chelsea anyone?

12.) 21 May 2021 15:16:07
I just don't get the Kane hype. WGAF? Wouldn't have him near this squad!

13.) 21 May 2021 15:37:01
Ferran Torres looks a really promising player but I doubt they’d sell him.

14.) 21 May 2021 17:18:38
When city buy a top class striker they will have all the pieces of their puzzle. They will be out in front next season by a bloody long way challenging on all fronts. Front to back they have a pretty unbelievable set of players. For us I think it will suit us feeling like the underdogs. It will hopefully bring back that dogid mentality back! Come on you red men.

15.) 21 May 2021 17:21:06
Kane will go to Man U
Greenwood Lingard and Williams in opposite direction plus some 80 million.

16.) 21 May 2021 20:13:18

Why on earth would we sell Greenwood? He’s 19 and going to be too class. No chance he’ll be sold. I also think Kane will defiantly end up at City and with an already formidable squad that signing would guarantee the league for them next season IMO.

17.) 21 May 2021 20:34:08
+1 for Adam and Cymru.

Kane is much more like a Man Utd signing, who tend to want to buy players 'ready made'. Haaland could give you another 10+ years of sterling service (no pun intended! ) and is still improving.

18.) 21 May 2021 22:59:43
If city get kane and we can get close to 100 points again doesn't matter who they have it take some beating.

19.) 22 May 2021 06:20:12
United would have to offer a lot to Tottenham to get Kane for 80mil, plus Levy knows City can and will pay more. I just don't see how It's can afford Kane and why he would want to go there if he wants to win titles? He may win the odd Europa League with them but that's it.

Whilst City/ Chelsea and us exist in our current forms, United are going to struggle to win the league. City have formed an amazing defence now and have a team firing on all cylinders. Chelsea will spend again to try and beat City, and we have half our first team coming back.

United apparently have much bigger issues in their team GK/ CB/ CM than strikers, Kane so improve that for them!

20.) 22 May 2021 08:38:17
If we add konate, a striker and replace gini and City add kane and loose aguero, I see no reason why they are unbeatable. Our front 3 is as good as theirs, our defense is better, our keeper is better and their midfield is better (but not by much) . A pretty even contest.

21.) 22 May 2021 19:21:48
MK Scouser For me Kane is a better player than Aguero. Aguero is a goal scorer with great movement but Kane offers far more and I think has a slight better goal average playing for a team nowhere near city level. I would love Kane upfront for us I could see him getting 30+ league goals a season for us.



15 Feb 2021 08:20:36
Have seen Rodney Marsh has posted Liverpool are making an official club statement at 10am this morning . Obviously everyone is presuming its klopp related. Could there be anything else any sort of new sponsor deals or just about the CL game tomorrow night. Also rumours that Alisson and Robertson were involved in a bit of a scuffle after the game Saturday?

Ibiza Red

1.) 15 Feb 2021 10:38:08
Thing is that Marsh has literally no connections at the club, so how that wasted up old fart knows anything is beyond me.



30 May 2019 16:58:53
Sorry if it's something you've touched upon recently but how is the interest in players we are looking to off load or themselves looking to leave. Moreno, mignolet, Grujic, Sturridge, Lallana, Clyne, Ings I presume will go through. Or any other players I haven't mentioned. Thanks for all the work I presume transfer season will really kick in and get silly after the final.

Ibiza Red

{Ed002's Note - (a) Benfica want Morena as their first choice is proving hard to get and Fenerbahce are keen - Lazio have moved on to another target, as have Napoli. (b) Bounemouth, Norwich and Brugge could be priced out of a move. (c) Hertha, Torino and Werder Bremen want loans as Liverpool have priced him out of a sale. (d) Nothing firm but interest from Australia. (e) Nothing firm. (f) Clyne is of interest to Bournemouth, Napoli and West Ham if the price is reasonable. (g) I would think so. (h) There are loads of others as the club are now looking to buy success as the academy players like Connor Randall, Harry Wilson, Juanma, Masterson, Whelan, Allan, Tagseth, Ojo, Kent, Adekanye, Awonyi etc. no longer are see as a fit for the club.}

1.) 30 May 2019 19:55:54
Get them Marquee players in!

2.) 30 May 2019 19:33:17
Thanks for the reply. Do you feel any of the youngsters given time could push for positions in the squad if not starting 11. Or do you feel Liverpool are trying to capitalize on their position at the moment by signing players that may be more interested in joining us now than they may have a few years ago and this will be at the cost of the youth being given time and opportunity.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have seemingly given up on the youngsters.}

3.) 30 May 2019 21:05:43
Apart from Trent, Gomez and Brewster.

4.) 30 May 2019 21:16:32
And Hoever.

5.) 30 May 2019 21:21:29
I think it’s difficult and sad at the same time, sad because I do agree with Ed002 we have moved away from that youth development.

But it I think given the issues with money in the game “buying” success seems to be a solution, as much as I’d like to see us push youth the demand for success is ruining that.

6.) 30 May 2019 23:00:35
Liverpool and Klopp have not moved away from youth development.

As the club gets more successful a product if this is of course that it is harder for a younger player to find a position within the squad. Youth recruitment and development within the u23s and u18s must keep up to meet the demands required by the management team.

We have a player that will be part of the first team squad next season that could meet these demands in Rhian Brewster. Others mentioned also have a shot.

1 player every 2 seasons good enough to impact a squad like ours from our support setup is a massive achievement.

7.) 30 May 2019 23:24:29
Current first team players Gomez and TAA. if the kids are good enough they will get the chance.

8.) 31 May 2019 07:36:06
We are now a club that's competing at the top end of the Premiership and Champions league, so to bring players through the Academy they have to be special. TAA is proof that if they are good enough they will get an opportunity.
All the top clubs have a similar view. did the final the other day have any players brought through their own system?
We are still trying to bring young players through, or buy young players we can develop, that are better than the young players we already have.
I am with Ed02 on the opinion that Paying 70 million on players to compete for a place in the team is madness.
Look at Gini after coming on against Barcelona, he said he was angry with Klopp because he was on the bench and he has come out again and said he will be angry if he doesn't start on Saturday.
It his great that he has that in his make up and wants to play, but eventually he will want to leave, than become a bit part player.

9.) 31 May 2019 08:05:59
Plenty of clubs spend money on players, Liverpool are far from alone in that.

10.) 31 May 2019 07:23:23
Juanama was thought highly 2 years back. Now he is on the way out? . Ed001 can you give insight on this?

{Ed001's Note - he suffered injuries and never reached his potential or hasn't yet anyway.}

11.) 31 May 2019 08:57:41
Liverpool's development of young players has been good, but not necessarily good enough to get many of them into our starting 11-17. If it helps us generate funds through player sales which can then be used to help recruit higher class players it has done its job hasn't it? Not the preferred outcome of course, (I know we'd all love to have a team made up of 5/ 6 homegrown heroes like the gerrard / carra / Fowler / Owen / Stevie Mc. era) but not a bad return.

12.) 31 May 2019 09:00:59
like its your money.

13.) 31 May 2019 10:34:30
I like the idea of buying the league, but just a shame for us that other clubs have done it better than us. so far anyways . . .

14.) 31 May 2019 10:36:17
I think we are developing players quite well to be sold to fund the first team, examples

Ibe to Bournemouth
Smith to Bournemouth
Solanke to Bournemouth
Stewart to Hull
Danny Ward to Leicester
Andre Wisdom to Derby

Who would have thought that lot would net close to 60,000,000 in sales? It would be preferred to see them succeed at LFC but none of the above have turned out to be stars since leaving.

15.) 31 May 2019 12:23:52
If there good enough they will make it, a lot can change between youth football and mens.

16.) 31 May 2019 12:56:28
Make it a rule that squad sizes (for over 21’s) are to be reduced to 16/ 17 players and that way the kids will be alright. None of this stockpiling malarkey and teams spending huge amounts on reserves. Can’t see a sensible fan in the land not being up for that.

17.) 31 May 2019 13:32:43
Its pretty simple unfortunately - every year a new bunch of youngsters will come through, but once players mature and join the first team, players can play for Liverpool for many years if they’re good enough. Simple maths means that not many can make it into the first team as opportunities are few and far between.

Pair that with the fact that many juniors will lose their way (eg. simply not good enough, their first pro contract goes to their head, they don’t grow physically, the learn to enjoy partying over training etc. ) then only a very few kids will ever be good enough to play for one of the largest teams in the world.

I don’t think Liverpool are giving up on youth at all as we’ve seen from Trent, Gomez, Brewster. if they were good enough (and lucky enough) then they’ll get their shot. It’s just very few will ever get the chances for many valid reasons.

18.) 31 May 2019 14:21:43
King Carlos. You've forgotten Jerome Sinclair. Didn't we also get a few million for him?

19.) 31 May 2019 20:51:36
Danny Wilson too. I remember he was tipped to be the next big CB.

20.) 03 Jun 2019 00:37:18
the problem with being a top tier team is that the youth players will get less chances to prove themselves on a regular basis unless there is extraordinary talent.

i still see a good point in recruiting and developing youngsters and then sell them on for a profit.



28 Nov 2018 10:49:13
Morning Ed's. Is there anything on Milner being offered a new contract or do you expect him to be offered one and what sort of length. Milner strikes me as the sort of player that would leave to guarantee first team football rather than sit on a bench. But with his versatility/ professionalism let alone his performances over the last 12-18 months I hope he signs a new deal.
Are there any foreign based players out of contract in the summer that would be of interest to Liverpool at all?

Ibiza Red

{Ed002's Note - I would expect that Liverpool will sit down and explain to Milner that his opportunities will be limited and perhaps Camacho will be integrated in to midfield. That might give him the opportunity to return to Leeds perhaps. I am not aware of any out of contract players being considered.}

1.) 28 Nov 2018 16:10:47
I would be gutted to see Milner leave - but I wouldn't begrudge him the opportunity to leave and continue playing first team football well into his thirties. as long as it's not with one of our direct rivals ;-)

2.) 28 Nov 2018 17:26:50
I hope both he and the club decide for him to stick around for a year or two. He will be missed if he decides to leave.

3.) 28 Nov 2018 22:11:50
Ed isn't Camacho more of a winger than a midfielder in a 3, would of thought Curtis Jones being primed for that midfield 3 position as it's more of a natural position for him than Camacho, I like Camacho though want too see more of him .

{Ed002's Note - It was an example - most of the kids stand little or no chance of progressing.)

4.) 07 Dec 2018 21:00:04
based on early season form, surely JM is worthy of a one year extension no?



02 Aug 2018 04:37:58
Sorry Ed's I appreciate you get asked this god knows how many times a day but is there much update on outgoing players. There seems plenty of media speculation about mignolet, and there was a few bits about Ings to Palace but with them close to Meyer and signing Kayoute do they still have the funds to sign players and pay the wages. We seem overloaded up front and unfortunately Solanke, Ings, Origi just don't seem good enough to make an impact for us or ever challenge for a starting position.

Ibiza Red

{Ed002's Note - Ings is certainly on his way out and others will follow.}

1.) 02 Aug 2018 09:54:23
Thanks Ed, looking forward to seeing Allison make his debut against Roma.

2.) 02 Aug 2018 10:25:15
Alisson's debut will be against Napoli.

3.) 02 Aug 2018 11:55:13
Sorry yea on sat got the teams mixed up.

4.) 02 Aug 2018 12:21:50
I thought markovic could leave for free this summer if a deal wasn't agreed last January, but I'm seeing reports of loans and possible sale. Or am I mistaken?

5.) 02 Aug 2018 18:45:48
Hey ed02. You said that Ings was interesting Palace so off the back of that I put 10 pounds on him at 10-1 to do so. If he does move there I will put 20 pounds of my winnings to your fav charity if you can let me know what it is. Thanks (in advance if he does)

{Ed002's Note - Thanks Robbie but I really don’t want to be encouraging gambling at all.}

6.) 02 Aug 2018 19:26:54
No understand that and I wasn’t suggesting others do. Apologies if that has upset anybody. Thanks for the great job you guys do.

7.) 02 Aug 2018 22:22:07
Robbie what a great idea. Can’t see anything wrong with you taking a punt on a bet and wanting to share the success. Massive fan of Dementia UK as I think it’s an illness that always goes a miss in Consideration of the spectrum and charity hands outs. I’m sure many would agree and many families effected by this.

If people are gambling for fun (after all isent every transfer a gamble) and want to give money away to good causes can’t see anything wrong with that.

When the fun stops stop :) great gesture Robbie!




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21 May 2021 07:33:17
With Inter Milans well publicised financial problems will many of their players become available and could you see us going in for any of them Barella or Martinez for example. Both young seem decent in positions we need (if one of front 3 go)

Ibiza Red

1.) 21 May 2021 08:38:07
Inter won't sell either of them.

2.) 21 May 2021 09:04:38
OP, I read somewhere that Inter have just got a huge influx of cash from foreign investors, to help cover their losses. If that is true then none of their stars will be leaving, IMO.

{Ed002's Note - No you don't understand, the part owners have sold their 30% of the club. The money goes to them, LionRock, not the club.}

3.) 21 May 2021 10:06:57
As much as I’d love us to sign Martinez and Barella I can’t see it happening.

People will think I’m stupid but Martinez for me is the ONE. He’d be a superb striker in our system and I think I’d have him over Haaland, Kane etc. Not because he’s necessarily better. But because he’s be perfect for the way we play and is a very good finisher.

I remember when Suarez left I said firmino should be his replacement due to his skill set and while he’s not the goal scorer Suarez is/ was. He was the guy I felt we needed.

4.) 21 May 2021 11:11:01
I agree. I think Martinez would be very much like Aguero in the PL. He’d score a lot of goals.

5.) 21 May 2021 11:25:13
Ed02, many thanks for your response.

6.) 21 May 2021 13:22:17
Lautaro would be an amazing player for us. World class quality combined with excellent work rate and a proven ability to adapt to a specific system and still be as effective as before. Though there are similarities with Aguero in that he is Argentinian and stocky, as players they are very different. Lautaro is effective outside the 18-yard area in a way that even Pep couldn’t make Aguero.



28 Mar 2021 09:14:42
To get us through this week of international boredom who is everyones biggest disappointment in terms of players bought that didn't go to plan and also the ones we let go?
Morientes, Cole, Keane, Aquilani, Balotelli, Diouf, Saunders, keita, Kirkland sure there's 100s to choose from.
For me I was so disappointed Keane didn't work out. Always seemed to have done so well wherever he was. At the time it wasnt a risk it just didn't seem to work. For me out of the players we let go would be Anelka or Mcmanaman. Wouldve been very interesting to see how Anelka had worked out had he joined us permanently as he was such a quality striker back then.

Ibiza Red

1.) 28 Mar 2021 10:16:18
I was watching some old clips of macmanaman last night, he looked like a special player, I can barely remember him playing though as I was a kid.

2.) 28 Mar 2021 10:36:12
This might not be a popular call, but if the rumours are to be believed, I'd take Luis Suarez back in a heartbeat.

Yes, he left under a cloud after agitating for a move, so I was hugely disappointed when he went. And yes there have been problems with his knees, but what a player. Even now he's still performing at the highest level and he genuinely holds the hear. We could have done with someone like him when we needed a bit of magic this season.

I was saddened to see him go and the manner in which he left but he's a winner and, should their be a surprise return, I feel he's still got enough left in him to make a difference next season and maybe even beyond as if utilised wisely.

3.) 28 Mar 2021 10:44:23
I’d take back Suarez in a heartbeat, the guy is a footballing genius and scores goals for fun. He’s a winner.

“Ibiza Red” having read Brian Read’s book an Epic Swindle it almost suggests that’s Rafa sabotaged Keane because Hicks and Gillette wouldn’t finance Barry. It makes sense as Keane would play well one game then get benched in others.

Aquilani was a huge disappointment as we’d stupidly sold one of the best midfielder’s in the world and I was praying he’d be mustard.

4.) 28 Mar 2021 10:45:32
holds the hear= holds the club close to his heart.

5.) 28 Mar 2021 10:55:33
I loved watching Steve McManaman but you knew after 15 minutes if he could make his mark on a game or not. For players coming with hype Morientes does stand out as he had a stella European Cup run with Monaco and was coming in from Real Madrid (usually they go to Real not the other way around) .

Bruno Cheyrou being dubbed the new Zidane came with a lot of hype / hope which never materialized and for me that was a disappointment especially with Houllier being the manager and his French connections.

Also Kewell coming as injured Kewell and never really recovering was another disappointment.

6.) 28 Mar 2021 11:02:20
I was more disappointed that we signed Keane as he really wasn’t as good as the press liked to make out. When you consider the players of similar value that we didn’t push for it was a colossal waste of money.

7.) 28 Mar 2021 11:03:21
Suarez off the field was nothing short of a nightmare for us. On the field he was, even in his relatively short spell with us simply sensational. That season he scored 30 plus goals was one of the best individual seasons I have seen at the club. I would not take him back for two reasons though. One, the trouble he caused with Kenny losing his job and also dragging the club’s reputation through the mud would make it a non starter. Two, if you have seen him recently he is nowhere near the player he was, which is understandable given his age and injuries.

8.) 28 Mar 2021 11:05:05
Red Star, Suarez is on his last legs. There are pensioners on attendance allowance who have more pace and mobility than Suarez. And that’s not even getting into his biting, racism and the underhand way he tried to leave, on MULTIPLE occasions, make no mistake about it if we signed Suarez again, that would be a huge mistake.

9.) 28 Mar 2021 11:11:20
Suarez is nowhere near the level he was. Atletico look likely to blow another title. They are running out of gas and so is Chewy Luis.

10.) 28 Mar 2021 11:18:02
I was delighted we got Robbie Keane but then it turned out Raffa didn't want him and to me Raffa didn't use him in his best position (deliberately? ) .

{Ed001's Note - that's not true. Rafa did want him. The problem is Keane was a complete bell of a person whose only interest was in getting smashed on nights out. It was a disciplinary issue that Rafa had with Keane.}

11.) 28 Mar 2021 11:29:19
Dean Saunders to replace peter Beardsley shocking or just about anybody Souness signed to replace as the only players he signed that was any good where Rob Jones who would have been up there with a chance of liverpool's all time 11 without his injury and Mark Wright was not a bad player but the rest awful. So maybe Souness as manager. I still can't believe he sold Beardsley and Steve Staunton.

{Ed001's Note - Saunders was god awful. And that horrible assault on Paul Elliott should have been the last thing he ever did in the game. That was deliberate and he should never have played again after that. Vile prick of a man Saunders.}

12.) 28 Mar 2021 11:46:49
Red Star, which Suarez are you talking about? Cos if it is the current version on show then, you are off your rocker for wanting to take back a player who is done and has been fine for a few years now. He is about 10 years older than the Suarez who played for us so not sure why you would want him back esp if he is not even on par with the one we had back then.

Secondly, Suarez was pardoned by the fans for all his transgressions on and off the pitch cos we were just desperate to win the league and he was our biggest meal ticket to get there, IMO. That is it! No way on this green earth would we have tolerated the absolute rubbish he pulled here and the list is as long as my arm, under Klopp. Why? We are not as desperate to win things as before anymore cos Klopp fixed that. I have NEVER wanted him back since he disgracefully left the club and long may that continue.

13.) 28 Mar 2021 12:00:26
I was gutted when Jari left. I still can’t believe how little he got picked to play, I can only assume he wasn’t fit because he was brilliant.

14.) 28 Mar 2021 12:23:37
Nuri Sahin cane with loads of hype and completely failed to deliver. In terms of who we let go I STILL am bitter we let xabi alonso go he was just a brilliant baller.

Macca was the reason I first decided to support Liverpool, his mazy runs got me.

15.) 28 Mar 2021 12:34:48
Coutinho was one of my favourite players and I was disappointed to see him go and also that he seemed to drop off after leaving.

Same about Torres.

Aquilani was one I thought would be good, I can't remember him ever really playing!

16.) 28 Mar 2021 12:58:53
ed001 it took the club 30 years to get over Souness as manager world class player god awful manager. Did he not bring in a lot of the crap players in on massive wages more than the top players at the club causing a lot of trouble in the dressing room.

{Ed001's Note - yeah he made a right mess. He tried to do too much too quickly, when he should have just evolved the team. He wanted thugs like himself, but forgot to look at their technical ability. Souness was an animal, but he was one of the best midfielders the game has ever seen technically as well. He could do it all but the players he bought in only had his bite, without his skills to go with it.}

17.) 28 Mar 2021 13:11:23
Keane sabotaged himself, left the club no option but to get rid.

18.) 28 Mar 2021 13:41:35
Red star, suarez left under a cloud? Is that all you remember? What about his racism?, his biting? His trying to force a move to arsenal and threatening to sue the club when they refused, his hanging Kenny out to dry at ot by not shaking evra's hand when he promised kenny he would? He is an absolute scumbag who should never put on a lfc again let alone be paid by them. Any fan that wants that cretin back should give their heads a wobble. He was a good player for us 7 years ago. Leave it at that.

19.) 28 Mar 2021 13:46:54
Took 30 years to get over souness? Never read so much tripe! Souness took over a very aging team and needed to rebuild, admittedly he bought wrong but to suggest it took us 30 years to get back to being successful is nothing but ludicrous. How about the board? Who bought in houllier when Roy Evan’s was doing a similar job? Rafa wasted millions but was constantly moaning about not being given any money, remember he won the eufa cup of the back of an inherited team. Then we had Roy hodgson, less said the better but guess what? Yep you’re right that’s all Greame souness’s fault lmfao!

20.) 28 Mar 2021 13:48:53
Disappointing player coming in would be Harry Kewell and one didn't want to lose would be Suárez.

21.) 28 Mar 2021 13:21:47
To reinforce Ed001's point, Robbie Keane is currently unashamedly pocketing €250k a year from a cash strapped FAI to do nothing, from a sweet deal that the now disgraced ex CEO of the FAI set up for him.

In terms of a signing, probably Diouf or Morientes. Diouf just because he was so very poor for us and Morientes because so much was expected of him, having been so good in the CL for Monaco the previous season.

In terms of someone who left, I guess I'd go with Torres. Fowler was probably worse in retrospect. But he was slowly pushed out over a period of a couple of years, whereas Torres kinda came out of nowhere and felt like more of a kick in the guts as a result. Most of us thought that because he hadn't bailed in the summer and we'd got FSG in that the crisis was over and he'd stay and we'd rebuild, plus we had Suarez arriving to finally take some pressure off him. Then 2 days from the end of the transfer window it breaks he's leaving.

{Ed001's Note - he is very good at fleecing money for f all.}

22.) 28 Mar 2021 13:27:19
Yeah that’s right ed Beardsley McMahon and staunton all should have stayed as they did was still top class players at the clubs they went to Beardsley was still playing for England 5 years later.

23.) 28 Mar 2021 14:10:02
I actually feel embarrassed I didn't mention it but Alonso has to be the one. He never wanted to leave originally and loved the club. Some of the others wanted to leave for one reason or another like Coutinho Suarez but Alonso deserved far more respect.

24.) 28 Mar 2021 15:23:55
I often wonder what would have happened if we had gotten Litmanen at the peak of his powers, not an aging player coming off a series of injuries. He would have been our Bergkamp.

I remember being very upset Keegan left for Hamburg. But then we wouldn't have gotten Dalglish otherwise. When a door closes, another one opens.

25.) 28 Mar 2021 15:42:51
Lots of the players Souness bought didn’t work out and set us back years. The likes of Saunders, Stewart, Dicks and Clough all cost big money at the time and didn’t work out.
He also sold a number of players far too early, Beardsley, Houghton and Staunton all had a good few years left at the top level.

26.) 28 Mar 2021 18:06:53
Didn't Saunders get caught drinking and driving? On film and was a real nasty piece of work.

27.) 28 Mar 2021 18:38:27
Some players don’t work out, clough could play football but he didn’t work out. Julian dicks had a
Seeet left foot but came with a reputation that he was more of a hard man and not a footballer which wasn’t the case, he was a decent defender and wasn’t given a chance. Saunders moved on to villa and proved he was a decent player.

{Ed001's Note - Dicks was awful. He was at least a stone overweight and had the brain of a dead pigeon. He was simply not good enough.

Saunders was a very average player at Villa as well. Never good enough.}

28.) 28 Mar 2021 18:39:40
Hit send too early! Sounesss had to buy, he was onto a loser from the start a bit like moyes at united.

{Ed001's Note - I do agree Souness needed to make changes, but not as many as he did and he didn't have to get rid of the best players in the squad to make space. He got rid of the quality players to bring in cloggers.}

29.) 28 Mar 2021 19:04:07
Souness took over a team that finished 2nd in the League. Aging or not, there was no need for the changes he made. He screwed up Liverpool big time. When Kenny left the team was competitive, what Souness did in his seasons at the club made us uncompetitive. We never recovered. Worst Liverpool manager in my lifetime and yes that includes Hodgson, who was the ONLY Liverpool manager to literally have no money to spend.

30.) 28 Mar 2021 19:44:28
In terms of expectations vs reality I think the three biggest flops in the last 15-20 years for me are:
1. El Hadji Diouf
2. Aquilani
3. Andy Carroll

In that order. Carroll is last because he at least provided some resale value and also he was more of a reaction purchase and expectations weren’t as high. Diouf came off of a red hot World Cup and then scored a brace on debut. And Aquilani, well he was supposed to be the “new and improved” Xabi Alonso.

{Ed002's Note - Aquilani was awfully treated by one of the Liverpool players.}

31.) 28 Mar 2021 19:45:33
Did a team of the players Souness sold (houghton, mcmahon, Beardsley, gillespie, Staunton, ablett etc who were often man of match with their new teams) vs the players he brought in - he destroyed the team and we never recovered. Kenny left a poor ageing team mind. Mark wright was shocking, couldn’t play offside to save his life.

32.) 28 Mar 2021 19:47:36
Letting Alonso go was huge for us.
That guy could play. Showed that with playing career after us. We would of definitely won more trophies with him there.

Biggest disappointment on purchase
Erik Meijer. Never hit the heights of (just Googling him now)

33.) 28 Mar 2021 20:15:03
And we haven't even mentioned Paul Stewart. A striker turned midfielder because he wasn't scoring enough and Souness put him back up top to support Rush.

Be like if Rafa had signed Alan Smith from United around 2007.

34.) 28 Mar 2021 21:33:04
Ed002 - would you be able to disclose which player treated Aquilani so poorly? Very disappointed to hear about that sort of culture at the club, albeit over a decade ago.

Totally understand if it wouldn't be appropriate for you to name anyone - just asking out of curiosity.

{Ed002's Note - It was dealt with years ago, it is of no relevance now.}

35.) 28 Mar 2021 22:21:05
Biggest disappointment for me definitely naby keita. Loved watching him play for RBL just such a let down with a terrible attitude to go with it.

36.) 28 Mar 2021 22:49:00
I wouldn’t take luis back he is a horrible human being and professionally he is at the back end of his career but all above saying he is useless and past it is a bit much he is still the second top goal scorer this year in la liga with 19. not that bad reallly.

37.) 29 Mar 2021 04:05:26
Above all I was sorry to see Fowler being sold to Leeds. He emerged onto the scene at 17 and within two seasons was the best player in the league. What a finisher! He was such a brilliant striker who lost his way a bit (injuries/ off-pitch shenanigans/ houllier/ Owen) but he should never have been sold. I firmly believe that there are a small number of players for whom normal rules do not apply and for me Fowler was one of those along with the likes of Ronaldinho, Romario, Ronaldo Nazario, Best, Cantona, Gazza and Maradona. Fowler loved Liverpool and I still can’t believe they sold him. I would have fired Houllier for even suggesting such an act of sacrilege.

38.) 29 Mar 2021 07:14:54
Ed2 re Aquallani. (sp) what's the point in mentioning it if you won't elaborate? If you would indulge us please? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I did not bring up Aquilani.}

39.) 29 Mar 2021 10:45:57
Biggest what if for me is Anelka. Loved the signing when it happened, hated that we couldn't make it longer term.

Also was intrigued by Mark 'speedy' Gonzalez. a lot of fan fair and waiting for him, but he turned into nothing really : (.



08 Feb 2021 08:36:21
Ed's if tgisbhasnt been done already. Could you do a comparison of Salah and Kane and Aguero. Since Salahs arrival at liverpool. I have several deluded Spurs mates who think Kane is in a different league. Then when I throw Salahs numbers at them they say kanes injuries are the reason for that. But when Kane plays he pretty much always plays 90mins when salah plays we've seen many times he comes on for 30mins or gets taken off for last 20. Personally i think Aguero is the best of the 3 but after that I would rather have Salah but that's probably down to our styles and just a massive dislike of Kane. I feel some rivals don't appreciate Salahs strength and feet skills. Just see him as a goalscorer who throws himself on the ground a lot

Ibiza Red

{Ed001's Note - I have added that to the comparison list for you mate.}

1.) 08 Feb 2021 10:11:01
I know you didn't ask for my take but I think all three are fabulous players, great goalscorers but also completely different types of players.

However I think Salah is the best one because he is the most reliable player fitness wise. It doesn't matter how great you can be if you can't even make 25_30 league appearances consistently.


2.) 10 Feb 2021 00:16:33
Thanks Ed's that would be great.

{Ed001's Note - I hope you still think that way when you read it!}



01 Feb 2021 13:57:31
Reading that Costa has been offered a deal by a top six side. Now I know it won't be us. But as it will be a team competing for European places against us do you have any idea who it may be. All it said was top 6. I don't know if that implies as the table stands or traditional top 6. I guess a case could be argued for Chelsea, Leicester, Spurs all needing a striker or even City with Aguero out.
Be very happy if we get 1 more centre back along with Davies. And would like to see Origi moved on as much for himself. The more he plays the more he diminishes his reputation and he should be remembered for what he did for us in the CL more than what he is unable to do for us week in week out.

Ibiza Red

1.) 01 Feb 2021 15:00:09
Spurs? Kane injured?

2.) 01 Feb 2021 15:11:13
I've read that the deal wasn't acceptable as Costa wanted 2.5 year deal but was only getting an offer of 6 months.



26 Jan 2021 14:35:50
This seasons not really going to plan. In all but a handful of games we've been very poor look tired and out of ideas. But having said that were still in the CL and not a million miles from top of the league. If we get top 4 I'd be happy then look to next season with VVD and Gomez back and Jota. Spurs and Man U have been better this season but nothing special. Leicester look a good team but not good enough and Man City are up and down. Let's weather the storm come back stronger. And support Klopp and our superstars.

Ibiza Red

1.) 26 Jan 2021 16:41:40
we haven't looked right since returning from the break at the end of last season. Their form (and apparent mental fatigue) is becoming increasingly worrying if we are going to achieve anything this season. Injuries and players out of position hasn't helped, but this rut started long before any of that.

2.) 26 Jan 2021 16:44:12
Man City haven't had a down in a while.

3.) 26 Jan 2021 17:15:16
Yeah, City are looking good.

4.) 26 Jan 2021 17:38:09
Apart from losing Aguero and KDB to injury . going to be interesting to see how they cope. And then there’s Vardy and his op. All heating up nicely in the prem.

5.) 26 Jan 2021 18:27:30
Yeah heating up for Utd to win it which would be a total disaster.

6.) 26 Jan 2021 18:46:31
I think Next season will be back to normal. It’ll be Liverpool and City 15 points ahead of everyone else by February.
The only worry for the big boys this season is top 4 or not with it being a fake prem. Someone like Villa could sneak it.




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26 Jul 2021 05:08:05
Interestingly I was speaking to 2 scousers on holiday yesterday who have connections to the club (not saying this would lead to any transfer information) but when asking them about transfers the first name they came up with was Neto.

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{Ed0666's Note - I just can’t see that happening mate. He plays in a position that we already have mane and Jota in, and isn’t he injured?



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21 May 2021 11:30:41
And your comparisons are almost stupid. Kane added to an already very very good squad is not like playing against a spurs with kane or even a barcelona squad of a few years ago that have been past their best for a very long time. But the main reason for the post was wondering if City will be restricting in even bidding for Kane or Haaland because of FFP even though we know they have the money to buy either one. So MK I don't need to have a word with myself thanks.

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21 May 2021 11:25:32
Mk Scouser I am not saying they will be unbeatable I am saying that's what many pundits have been saying. That if City sign Kane they basically wrap everything up.

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11 Feb 2021 13:29:17
In terms of Mane or Salah leaving. Is there any club likely to be able to afford either of them in the current climate. Barcelona Real and Atletico all seem to have major financial issues. With Barcelona and Madrid not really having the players to sell to make the funds either. Bayern I presume would have plenty of money along with PSG or would they have difficulties with FFP. Secondly with FFP due to the goings on of the last year and C.V. will FFP be a bigger factor as even the super rich clubs like PSG and City would be losing revenue so even if they have money to buy players could FFP effect their business. Thanks in advance and fke all the hard work you guys do. let's hope we get a couple of big results this week coming for Klopp and his mum. Its embarrassing the stick he gets on here and in the media after what he's done for us in the last 5 years and hopefully will do for the next 5. No manager I would rather have in the world.

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{Ed002's Note - There are clubs that can afford both players but what is missing is the desire of any club to buy them. Real Madrid and Barcelona have plenty of players who are available to be sold and others with significant wages who will be leaving as Free Agents. But they have other prioritites. Bayern Munich are looking to add two CBs in the summer and have some other shopping they would also like to do so there won't be a lot of spare money. Manchester City are looking to some high-end shopping in the summer and have no interest in Mane or Salah. PSGs plans are fairly well set although can be expected change slightly with the change of coach and the huge losses in Ligue 1 have to be kept in mind. FFP has not gone away but the reporting period have been adjusted - clubs need to continue to be fiscally responsible.}



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11 Mar 2020 18:17:07
Do you think liverpool would ever revive interest in Fekir. Or has that ship completely sailed. Would it be dependant on someone like Salah leaving. Haven't seen him play much this season but he was very good against Madrid on the weekend and would presume he might be looking to join a higher profile team than Betis.

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{Ed002's Note - Right now there has been no Liverpool interest in Fekir. He has had a tough time at Betis and was being offered around in January.}




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12 Jul 2021 19:53:48
I thought Rice was probably Englands best outfield player. Along with Phillip's. Shaw and Trippier started well but couldn't defend. Maguires distribution was awful. Kane played well first 20 mins then hardly won a ball in the air and again his passing was rubbish. Sterling and Sako were poor and Mount may of well not been on the pitch.

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02 Jun 2021 07:51:05
Surely Martinez at the end of the euros could be in with a shout of a return to Everton. See it happening more than Benitez or Gerrard that have been rumoured.

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23 May 2021 14:45:25
Hijkle Villa had a far better barcelona career than Henry. Messi barely passed the ball to Henry in his first season there.

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23 May 2021 08:36:36
As for ibiza I'm actually in uk and have been since october. Having lived out there for 12 years I was first year self employed when all this rubbish started so coukdnt get any government help out there (for anyone who feels UK government have been crap in this C.V. Spain have been far far worse) . So anyway waiting on uk to at least put spain on green list before I go back to open up. But many places have started to open now or in next month as they have been getting plenty of tourists from Germany, France, Holland etc.

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23 May 2021 00:17:30
Theres no doubt Griezmann is a great player. And has shown glimpses of this at barcelona. It's a shame we never bought him from Sociedad when we were linked with him before he joined Atletico. He would be a great signing for liverpool if Mane did go but for how much? Also he would have to take a massive pay cut to join us aswell.

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