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12 Apr 2024 13:52:41
Thanks for the reply ed001.ye could you imagine the boost that line up would have giving the atalanta players beforehand. im hoping this result is the kick up the arse they need for the run in. has to be a reaction this weekend or else wel only have the league Cup for klopps final season
On another note ed001 what do you make of Virg's captaincy. i heard him on a podcast recently describe himself as very vocal and maybe he is and I just haven't noticed.
{Ed001's Note - exactly, Atalanta must have been delighted to see the team sheet.
I think Virgil has shown a massive improvement due to getting the armband. He has grown as a player and has been very vocal, he has been helping the youngsters a lot by all accounts.}
1.) 12 Apr 2024 23:06:04
Really poor team selection and tactics last night, Gomez being iinverted wasn't there available for a simple pass on the right side which gave us lots of problems and made it harder to bring the ball out been been plus the third goal could have been avoided if a proper right back had been there.
2.) 13 Apr 2024 20:41:23
Anyone else feel Atalanta are a poor team? I didn’t rate any of their players as top class! I don’t buy into the pundits “Atalanta did an absolute job on Liverpool” tripe. I saw a bang average team play a good team that were awful. A team that made mistake after mistake and played terrible. I’m absolutely confident If we play well in the second leg we’ll go through. Atalanta won’t be able to come with us if we turn up. Just hoping this is the final kick in the ass we need to wake up, front up and take some individual responsibility.
11 Apr 2024 21:56:57
Ed01 what do you make of klopps starting line up. was it a case of him listening to medical dept regarding players being tired or was he prioritising the league over the europa. for me he should of went with strongest 11 and killed the game an then rest players if needs be. i really hope he didn go with a weaker team so we're fresher for league game. winning games at this stage keeps momentum and players won't feel tired once their winning. love to know what you made of that team tonight ed01.
{Ed001's Note - it was a mistake. A bad mistake. He went with a weaker team, but worse, he got the tactics wrong. Atalanta's weakness is the flanks, but we stuck with an inverted full-back leaving no width on the right. That allowed their wide man on the right to stay forward and keep Konate from being able to mark the two forwards they were playing. Which meant that Endo was forced to drop in centrally as Virgil was being dragged out wide to deal with de Ketelaere, who kept drifting out to their right. We either needed Gomez to sit and help out defensively or to play Bradley in order to push back their left-side as well.
Let's be honest, starting off with a weakened side like that, in the qtr-final of the Europa League, just gave them a boost and hope. It was a terrible decision, especially in terms of full-backs, who should have been Robbo and Bradley from the start.
The other one that annoys me is Klopp's constant rotation of the centre-backs alongside Virgil. He did it last season as well and the defence suffered, partly because of the constant change, but partly because of his bizarre choice to play the ball-playing centre-back (last season Matip, this season Quansah) in the Premier League and the physical, pacey centre-back in Europe. It should be the other way round. The Prem is fast and physical, better suited to having Konate as first choice. Europe is slower and gives a bit more time and space on the ball, so better suited to having Quansah/Matip starting.}
1.) 12 Apr 2024 05:15:19
Ed1, everything look awful last night. Wrong lineup, awful tactics, awful atmosphere from the fans, awful defending and again awful finishing from our forward line. Everything just went wrong yesterday. Probably the worst game under Klopp that I have ever experienced. To be honest, I'm worried with the way we are finishing our season.
{Ed001's Note - it does seem to be petering out.}
2.) 12 Apr 2024 07:00:57
I do think Sunday will be make or break for season. We need a really good performance and a good win scoring a few goals if we to get any momentum going into final straight. We look a team with absolutely no confidence and as if we running on empty and we've been poor for a while now. Up to last nite vvd+mac where playing really well and I think carrying us but when they had poor games there was just nothing.
3.) 12 Apr 2024 07:07:28
Someone wrote on Facebook : "A masterclass in defending and goalscoring. " Ed001 has given the reasons.
I have long been concerned about the defence. Essential.
After Sunday I was very concerned about our scoring ability. Man U are a very poor side and should have been easily beaten. Instead we laboured. Atalanta are just above mid table in Serie A. We lost at home.
4.) 12 Apr 2024 07:28:37
From the first couple of minutes I seen vvd jogging round and losing the ball I knew we were in trouble.
Jones looked so unfit, Tsimikas was absolutely terrible to the point were I would just sell him and let the young lads have a go. The attitude and decision making from the hole team was absolutely terrible. But klopps decision making was worst! We have bottled it big time. We have let Man U get to us over the last two game and we are now paying the price.
5.) 12 Apr 2024 08:53:33
Gomez was a problem yet again, since he played at 6 he started to believe his own media hype, he is a defender end of, he is good on the ball and a great defender, use him as such, him as an inveted full back isn't working, Konate looked like Sakho, Tsimkas should have been sold in the summer, taking Elliott off was ridiculous, McAllister looked knackered and should of been rested for Elliott to drop into mid, we look like we don't have the confidence to finish chances off, we hold the ball too long and miss Robertson, Trent and Bradley who can give and take a quick passes and make us flow, we got what deserved, we are due smashing someone 4/ 5/ 6 so it needs to be next week, this 2% nonsense left the stadium flat too, so the fans can take some blame, if they want to protest, on the 2nd minute turn your backs and not watch for 2 minutes. This was a failure all throughout the club for once.
6.) 12 Apr 2024 07:56:49
Ed1 - I was thinking back to that run of games prior to the last international break. When we went 1-1 vs City and missed an opportunity to nail them. Then we bizarrely went strong in 2nd leg vs Sparta before sputtering and getting knocked out of FA Cup vs ManU.
Feel like we lost some ascendancy in our season around that mark. And since the break we’ve been good in patches but seem to consistently start every game in reverse.
{Ed001's Note - that was the most bizarre moment of the season, the 2nd leg against Sparta. It is hard to even make an argument of any kind for the reasoning behind that team.}
7.) 12 Apr 2024 08:41:40
ED01. I'll always love Klopp for what he's done but he is a stubborn man. How he couldn't see last night the issue with our fullbacks I'll never know. Genuinely think we should play 3 at the back the rest of the season. Konate VVD and Gomez. We're too open in defence and that's killing us the most.
8.) 12 Apr 2024 09:11:09
Ed001 mate, the other thing I noticed, Klopp disir change to combat the one to one man marking!
9.) 12 Apr 2024 09:53:14
I think the Nunez miss was where the game turned, if he had finished what was a great chance then the game looks very different. It was a shocking miss.
{Ed001's Note - oh here we go, blame Nunez for missing when the whole team was playing terribly from the start and the crowd were non-existent. The game never turned, it was the same from start to finish.}
10.) 12 Apr 2024 09:55:21
Was in the stadium last night and whilst i agree it wasn't a great atmosphere it also wasn't the worst Anfield i have been too.
The atmosphere was pretty good up to and including kick off but then it went pretty dead when we started doing ticky tacka football around the pitch with zero penetration and looking players looking like they were in a local park effort wise.
The only time the the atmosphere rose in the first half was when the stadium broke into the Jota song which was strange as he was still sat on the bench at the time.
Player wise they cancelled Mac out and we were found massively wanting and in the 2nd half Kelleher had the ball and 10 outfield players were literally stood still.
Elliot i think was unlucky to go off at half time but I'm not sure what position he was playing in the first half because he spent more time in the middle of the park trying to make things happen than he did out on the right.
We could look at naming and shaming individuals but on the grand scheme of things every single one of the players was off the boil and for me their effort and intensity on the pitch had everything to do with the crowd.
From the players who played whilst not having great games i think only 4 stood out who looked like they really wanted it and that was Gakpo, Robbo, Elliot and Jota.
Only thing I'm going to criticize the match crowd for last night was the walk out with 7 minutes to go of the game. I've not seen that at Anfield ever in Klopps time.
But i suppose they can argue they spend their money on tickets so they can leave whenever they want.
Me and the boy stayed until the end and it felt like torture but you know what it was a massive come down to earth for me and some humble pie.
For the last few weeks I've been planning my trip to Dublin for a final we weren't even in at the time.
Last night i thought we'd turn up and roll them over and its quite clear so did the players.
Well done to Atlanta players and their fans who were brilliant before, during and after the game.
Sad thing is this could be Klopps last ever European night at Anfield and he's been let down by all.
11.) 12 Apr 2024 10:05:15
Spot on Ed. Dreadful night all round.
Hopefully everyone (crowd included) will be back on the right track on Sunday.
12.) 12 Apr 2024 10:29:22
A bad night all round. It could have been 0-5.
Atalanta bullied us all over the pitch with their man to man system.
Strange selection choices by Jurgen.
Perhaps this is a timely smack in the chops.
Up to Klopp now to re-light the fire. 7 more.
13.) 12 Apr 2024 11:46:40
Ed001, is that any different to the comment above about tsimikas over hitting a cross early on it setting the tone, I am saying the Nunez miss had a similar effect. All of our forwards are struggling with taking chances, that is literally a fact. They all have to take some responsibility for our downturn in form, along with the bizarre team selection from the manager.
{Ed001's Note - how could the Nunez miss change the course of the match if we are saying it was already set from the beginning? You are clearly missing the point. It changed nothing, we were terrible from the start, that was a symptom not a cause.}
14.) 12 Apr 2024 12:32:45
Yes, Nunez still looks raw at times with inconsistent finishing but look at his growth from a year ago.
His energy and dynamism gets him into positions and chances other players would not get anywhere near. He's a disruptor and creates space. A tremendous player with huge potential.
Playing with a more natural finisher like Jota or maybe with Salah more centrally and Szoboszlai / Bradley providing width would be interesting.
I think Gakpo is playing well and should start against Palace. Great touch and links up play well. Good to see him showing his quality.
Suspect Jota will be on the bench and build up minutes. He's class and been a real miss.
Yesterday was bad but with Ali, Trent and Jota back, I'm optimistic we can kick on.
15.) 12 Apr 2024 13:11:13
Klopp will be missed but his team selection will not so many times he has got it wrong. Hopefully our next manager has that thing called common sense.
16.) 12 Apr 2024 14:26:12
Ed, I thought Klopp would go string and try to get a foot hold in the tie BUT boy, did he screw it up with the weakened side he picked. Nothing worked from the off.
And why is he rotating for the sake of it? We don’t even use our FB’s in advanced positions any more and this is stifling our ability to get good service from our FBs onto Darwin who is lethal in the air. It was a wretched night collectively and everyone is responsible starting with the manager.
30 Jul 2022 02:37:47
Our midfield is getting some bashing for some time but let's cop on. let's say we crept over the line and done the quadruple last season then there wouldn be any criticism. we were so close and f#cking brilliant all season that I think our midfield should be shown more respect. if we were that bad in an area of the pitch that's so important then we'd never have been in the mix for everything til last few games so let's just calm down an appreciate what we've got. i was born 1985 an before klopp I only witnessed the odd cup success so everyone needs to take a step back an just be grateful for this team that klopp put together and stop bit#hing.
1.) 30 Jul 2022 07:31:18
I don't think anyone is bashing our midfield, it's just to get ahead of city I and a lot of others feel we need another top class midfielder. Any other era you wouldn't need 95pts to win league but unfortunately that is the standard we in at the minute. Also keep in mind fab, hendo and thiago will all be going to world Cup and all will go til latter stages probably. Hopefully bajectic comes threw in that 6 position and proves we don't need to buy there.
2.) 30 Jul 2022 07:39:44
The moaners want a midfielder. They have forgotten where we were a few years ago playing Shelvey, Poulsen and Spearing….
3.) 30 Jul 2022 08:08:44
@Digger, seriously mate? Nobody has a go at Ox or Keita or Jones? Really?
4.) 30 Jul 2022 08:21:55
We have 9 midfielders which is plenty. All of them are of the same quality so it doesn’t matter if Thiago and Fab start the big games or Ox and Naby start. All are big fan favourites.
Posters don’t want us to sign sign a new midfielder as it would make far more financial sense to give Naby and Ox new big salary long term contracts. We’ve had far too many shiny new toys of late ?.
5.) 30 Jul 2022 09:14:27
Wdw. Yes your right them 3 players do get a lot of stick. What I meant was our midfield as a group is v good and if we weren't up against city we would have no call for another. I think our defenders and our attackers are better than city but where city have the advantage is midfield. De bruyne, silva, rodri, gundogan etc are better than our group and it where we should be trying to improve. it not a matter of throwing toys out or being spoilt it's just where u would like to strengthen so you can overtake your rival.
6.) 30 Jul 2022 09:18:07
Think of the utter shame that will be heaped on the club if we don't win the trabsfer window. Tw@tter will implode for starters.
7.) 30 Jul 2022 09:23:55
What we almost did last season was exceptional and should not be understated.
However, in comparison to 18/ 19 and 19/ 20 we had some flaws creep into our game that need to be rectified. Whether that be on the training pitch or with additions, we’ll see.
Ljinders interview on LFC site tells me that they have identified two of the issues. So that is comforting. Let’s see if they get rectified.
8.) 30 Jul 2022 09:48:47
We have Jones, Elliot and Carvallho who will benefit from the minutes.
9.) 30 Jul 2022 09:53:06
No one is saying we were that bad.
The midfield was good but lacking depth. Who knows, a bit more depth could have helped us win all four.
Saying that, I was very happy with the team last season. The likes of Ox and Keita don't do enough for me but they are our players and I want them to do well.
10.) 30 Jul 2022 10:00:47
JK, really? All 9 of them are of the same quality? Naby, Ox, Hendo for ex. are of the same quality as Thiago? Yikes!
11.) 30 Jul 2022 10:20:36
On seconds thoughts I probably wouldn’t say all 9 are of the same quality. I think Naby is probably our best midfielder due to his age and ability to stay fit.
I think our 3 best DM’s are Fab but closely followed by Jones and Elliot. I’d then love to see Milner have a crack in the 10 role as i think he would bring creativity to the side similar to what KDB does for City.
If I had to sell one it would be between Hendo and Thiago as I just don’t see them getting many minutes this season.
12.) 30 Jul 2022 10:32:17
Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago may well all be going to the World Cup, but they're not starters for their countries and often only play bit parts, particularly Henderson and Thiago.
13.) 30 Jul 2022 10:36:31
Sure, buddy. Whatever you say.
14.) 30 Jul 2022 12:08:16
Play milner as a 10 and sell thiago or hendo? All I can say is thank god you are not manager.
15.) 30 Jul 2022 13:13:54
I can't JK. Those guys are taking you seriously ?. Your having a laugh over there, I'm sure about that.
16.) 30 Jul 2022 14:40:31
Martolfc of course I’m having a laugh mate I’d probably sell both Hendo and Thiago and play Allison in the 10 ??.
17.) 30 Jul 2022 15:08:33
JK you literally couldn’t have made it any clearer mate haha. Now at least we know for sure, some folks have NO sense of humour.
18.) 30 Jul 2022 16:40:14
Navy Keith who’s moaning? There’s nothing wrong with critiquing what we have and many believe the midfield lacks in areas, particularly goals. If you compare with City De Bruyne and Silva play consistently and contribute goals. Fabinho is world class and is a consistent player. However Thiago and Hendo don’t always play. Our subordinate players are talented but pale in comparison. Therefore suggesting we need a new midfielder that brings something new is credible.
10 May 2022 21:19:07
Dunno if anyone can help me but im going over for the legends match next weekend against united but can't find who's playing for us. seeing as its not too far away I thought it would've been announced by now. when are these teams normally announced. i want to show my lil one our legends on YouTube beforehand but I can only find uniteds squad.
07 May 2022 16:16:53
I know this is fake but thought I'd ask if anyone else has seen the video of some liverpool radio host stating, as if its fact, that Liverpool have a load of players that are asthmatic and therefore taking medication that improves their performance but excused because of their health problem. my mates who support other teams are milking this rubbish. just wondered if anyone else heard the same.
1.) 07 May 2022 16:57:08
Yes Irisheric I got sent the same from couple of utd fans! It was morning after city defeat to real so they starting to panic we just might win multiple trophies this season!
2.) 07 May 2022 17:54:37
I've seen that theory be propagated for about 3 years at this point, sometimes with the added accusation that the club is faking the asthma diagnoses just to get the players on the meds. Either that or it's abuse of caffeine and sports drinks and the players will all physically crash next year because of it. Then of course when next year comes and they don't crash, it'll be the following year honestly this time.
Salt. Pinch of.
Or maybe a truckload.
3.) 07 May 2022 18:33:36
Funny enough it was on the conspiracy page the other day.
So thought I'd try track down the original article. It's nothing more then conjecture with no sources within the article.
4.) 07 May 2022 18:49:22
Sat here reading this with my inhaler next to me wondering why I can’t walk to the shop without nearly passing out lol.
29 Aug 2021 17:16:08
Think there was an issue with a work permit for him.
29 Sep 2021 20:05:00
Wow I didn hear that but I'm not surprised by him. i wouldn pay any attention to Owen. he talks utter sh#te. i still don't understand how anybody would pay him to spout his crap. he should of taken over from John McCririck as he probably has more knowledge of horses.
26 Sep 2021 14:22:43
I wasnt rushing you ha. i just think your review will put yesterday's game into perspective for everyone whose writing the season off after it.
27 Aug 2021 09:32:53
Sorry I thought they could seen as Chelsea did with mutu. although very different circumstances. thanks for quick reply.
{Ed002's Note - I have just said they would.}
23 Aug 2021 22:07:13
I know you deal with a lot of negative an needless stuff posted about the club but I didn mean to fall into that category. sorry if I came across like that I genuinely just wanted inside info of how rodgers was viewed at the time and if that could hinder him getting a job at one of the bigger clubs and also I wasn't being smart asking what you meant in your reply I only just got it after I replied.
{Ed002's Note - No problem man, happy to read your posts but we need to avoid the she*p storm that often goes with comments on such posts.}
23 Aug 2021 22:02:20
Sorry ed002 I don't get what you mean about c pub but I def didn thrash him I thought it was a valid observation and wanted to know if Liverpool players thought the same at the time. i come here for all the eds knowledge and I wanted ed001s opinion on it as he seems to have knowledge of behind the scenes. i don't think my post was thrashing rodgers and don't think it deserved your response.
{Ed002's Note - Not to worry then.}