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27 Aug 2021 21:07:15
Hi Ed's.
Any interest in Femi Azeez from Reading?
EOTK is rumouring we have have opened talks.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool and he certainly would not be one for the first team.}
1.) 27 Aug 2021 22:34:51
EOTK cited Caughoffside as their source. Which basically means it's complete garbage as they seem to just pick a player and club out of a hat in the morning and then make up a rumour.
2.) 28 Aug 2021 11:45:19
The fact the article says £75k a week for an unknown player in the championship says how much credibility the article has.
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11 Jun 2022 21:55:36
What Re your opinions on the midfield?
Buy someone a bit cheaper this window?
Wait till next year for a big siging and hold keita for a year?
1.) 11 Jun 2022 22:39:21
I'd genuinely be happy with Nunez, Carvalho and Ramsay. A midfielder is just a bonus now in my opinion.
2.) 11 Jun 2022 22:46:15
No, if we have aspirations of the league or champions league this year we need another midfielder who can play both 6/ 8 role. We are really lacking legs in there now hendo is getting older and wijnaldum has gone. Keita cannot be trusted in the big games.
Even if it is a cheaper option, we need to get someone in for this year and then invest more next year but the midfield needs a refresh. Of course if we are planning a slower rebuild then we could leave it a year but that would be foolish imo.
3.) 11 Jun 2022 23:18:16
I agree Joshkel91. Also feel that we should keep Minamino. He could be the new Origi only better! Very under rated and under used. But looks like he's Monaco bound.
4.) 11 Jun 2022 23:57:49
Just going on Ed002s latest comment about us having to borrow from the owners to fund the Nunez deal I can’t see us making another major midfield signing this summer. There will be outgoings but don’t think we’ll raise enough to fund a big signing. The dream would be Bellingham next summer as he’s not going anywhere this year.
5.) 12 Jun 2022 00:02:06
Thankfully we don't do if your cheap enough you're good enough anymore.
There should be a big signing next year especially with Milner finishing. Keita is getting a new contract and I'm okay with that.
6.) 12 Jun 2022 00:04:39
1000000% we need another mid! Hendo Thiago Keita like to pick up knocks etc no way get one in and sell what we don’t want.
7.) 12 Jun 2022 00:06:08
We’ve arrived in exactly the same place as last Summer.
Most people thought we’d get someone in but it didn’t happen.
Elliott and Jones effectively replaced Gini.
It appeared a sound idea but injuries to both meant this could not be seen through.
Luckily our senior midfielders largely stayed healthy and consequently played a lot of games. Muscle injuries and fatigue caught up with them by the season’s end.
With Carvalho’s arrival it could again signal a further push for younger players to gain playing time.
Again, as per last year, I’d like another versatile midfielder.
But it may not happen.
8.) 12 Jun 2022 00:07:53
Definitely need a top class midfielder or we won't overtake city imo.
9.) 12 Jun 2022 00:43:28
We need that backup for the 6 and 8 positions. Absolutely vital for both the mid and long-term. We could wait another year due to financial considerations, but if we sell the 6-7 players most are anticipating, then it should be possible.
10.) 12 Jun 2022 01:55:23
I’m on board with getting the player we want at the right time and right price. Don’t know why the club would get away from that strategy unless an opportunity comes up. Not keen for quick fixes because they cause long term damage.
11.) 12 Jun 2022 02:50:54
I'd like another midfielder to cover/ replace Henderson because I think he's now more of a holding player.
BUT, at the start of last season, Elliott was in the first eleven. He suffered that shocking injury and I think Norbert took it easy with him.
What's not to say Elliott will start next season pushing for a start in the first eleven again? If Jones can steer clear of injuries, get a run of games, stop holding onto to the ball longer than Lalalalallana and shooting from everywhere then he might also be an extra body in there, too.
I don't know anything about the lad from Fulham. Is he a member of The Tooting Popular Front?
12.) 12 Jun 2022 04:07:08
Defo need a midfielder 100 percent. Jones isn't the answer and hendo won't play every game. Need a power house in there who can pass the ball and contribute with a few goals. any ideas?
13.) 12 Jun 2022 04:50:35
Looks like Taki is off to one of any number of clubs, Neco will go, Nat too. Looks like Ox may be going and of course Sadio and potentially Mo. they should all bring in a reasonable fee and given, Sadio aside, they were not really in our match days squad last season I think the addition of two potential starters (Nunez and Carvalho) plus a good young squad member at right back, seems like good work on our part.
14.) 12 Jun 2022 07:00:33
We will definitely sign a midfielder. Priority next I think. I don't want bissouma though, smells like trouble. I've no idea who I'd go for though but luckily klopp might!
15.) 12 Jun 2022 07:53:37
I agree we definitely need fresh legs in midfield and am sure we can find a gem from somewhere!
16.) 12 Jun 2022 08:27:42
Declan rice would be perfect but his price is ridiculous so never going to happen but he has all the characteristics that we want in our midfield plus a little bit of needle.
{Ed025's Note - excellent player Dhfc. But sadly as you say out of Liverpool’s reach mate..
17.) 12 Jun 2022 08:46:23
I too think rice is quality but not what we need
We need a midfielder who can weigh in with goals from open play- someone to score from outside the box when teams sit dep.
18.) 12 Jun 2022 09:21:22
Us and City went into last season with a missing piece.
They needed a striker and we needed a midfielder.
I feel like if we want to compete, that midfielder is needed now they have Haaland.
If we get one, I’m going both Liverpool and City being close to 100 pts.
19.) 12 Jun 2022 10:01:55
Wasn't kloppo very keen on neuhaus from mönchengladbach? Is this interest still there? Watching the nations league, there isn't anybody really sticking out as someone to go get. At the end of a long season, lots of players look exhausted to be fair.
20.) 12 Jun 2022 10:39:41
Are we interested in Sangare or is that just rumours? Anybody know anything about him?
Don't want to just buy somebody for the sake of it, we used to do that in the past - I like the club are going for predetermined targets and are prepared to wait but I do worry an injury to Fab, Thiago or Hendo could seriously derail us
On paper though we have Hendo, Fab, Thiago, Keita, Milner, Jones, Elliott to cover 3 positions so the club may be prepared to wait next year gor Bellingham?
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
21.) 12 Jun 2022 11:44:49
I think the midfield has another season in it before we really need to bring in an extra player. Even if Ox goes We have ample cover.
22.) 12 Jun 2022 17:38:39
What was the yes to Ed? 1st or 2nd question? Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - I keep answering the same question s - try searching.}
23.) 12 Jun 2022 18:51:35
Marty, ED02 said yes to the question posted by Bill as to whether we are interested in Sangare.
24.) 13 Jun 2022 07:25:18
Cheers Oli, that is what I meant.
24 Jan 2022 18:29:31
Looks like we dodged the Adams Traore bullet!
1.) 24 Jan 2022 18:47:48
Thank Fowler for that! VVVV will be well pleased.
2.) 24 Jan 2022 20:26:34
Still dodging the Salah and Mane contract bullet also.
3.) 24 Jan 2022 22:17:12
If jurgen and conte rate him, there has to be something there.
4.) 24 Jan 2022 22:53:44
I must have missed something, what is VVVV's opinion of Adama Traore?
5.) 24 Jan 2022 23:35:28
Klopp is an enigma, and a compli8cated man to understand sometimes. I remember one summer, Origi had put on a lot of muscle and Klopp had said in a pressie that he didn. t think it was necessary and would probably impair the player a bit. Even hinted that it had to come off. And yet on the other hand, he favors another player, Traore, who is all muscle and not much of anything else. We've seen Traore under 3 different managers and I don't think there has ever been any change. How much could a Conte or Klopp do?
{Ed0666's Note - Adama Traore was born with a 6 pack and traps the size of a house so there’s the difference.
6.) 25 Jan 2022 00:17:27
And Traore is quick; very quick.
He would offer more than Ox and Minamino, imo.
7.) 25 Jan 2022 00:41:26
All conte has done is bought spurs there version of victor moses!
Yes he is very quick but that's it usain bolt would offer more in goalscoring situations.
The OX has just scored in back to back pl games, when has Adama ever done that?
The players career stats are truly appalling and Lfc should steer well clear of this kind of mediocrity if we want to continue to challenge Man city.
8.) 25 Jan 2022 00:52:43
I like the idea of Traore if Klopp could improve the end product but I don’t think there is any substance to a statement that he offers more than Ox and Minamino. These are two players that in recent posts have been spoken about as being disposable to raise cash in sales or simply not good enough for LFC. Both players on limited game time in the last few weeks have had more of an impact up top than Traore in the whole season so far so it doesn’t make sense to me. Perhaps he would be better in a better team? Not sure though. I do get it, there is talent and skill there, but it’s no good running the length of the pitch in 3 seconds skinning every player while your at it if your just going to spaff the ball into the stratosphere, entertaining as that might be. I want LFC to win trophies, not undesirable Guiness work records.
9.) 25 Jan 2022 01:19:06
Hasn't traore just scored in back to back games too.
10.) 25 Jan 2022 02:21:34
I wish he wouldn’t oil himself up.
{Ed0666's Note - That’s what Eds 001 wants me to do when I visit him at his flat….
11.) 25 Jan 2022 06:33:45
Magical-VAR just disallowed the one against Brentford.
12.) 25 Jan 2022 07:13:34
Don’t think so. Adam’s has scored one goal and made zero assists this season in all comps unless I am missing something. Ox has scored 3 times and made 2 assists. Minamino has scored 6 times and made one assist. I mean even Keita and Thiago have scored more goals than him.
13.) 25 Jan 2022 07:22:23
Traore has only 1 goal this season, not a good season average I think we should stick with the ox and minamino they have more goals this season than Traore has in the Last 3 seasons.
14.) 25 Jan 2022 09:07:28
For such a crap player our team weren't half in panic mode everytime he got the ball. Maybe one of the reasons his stats are bad is cos teams go out of their way to hack him down as quick as possible to stop him getting up a head of steam. its certainly what we did to him.
15.) 25 Jan 2022 10:00:41
The slander on Ox and Mino is becoming desperate to the point of the utter ridiculous now. Ox and Mino have contributed a ton this season already BUT it simply will NEVER be enuff for some on here. As they say, "There is none more blind than the one who refuses to see".
Rigsby, Ox and Mino have scored more goals than Adama in all comps. this season and have helped us stay the course this season in the absence of Salah and Mane as well as in the EFL Cup where Mino is the leading scorer with 5 goals. Now tell me how a guy like Adama with less goals and less assists better than both those players? I'll wait.
16.) 25 Jan 2022 10:19:55
ArAy, wasn't that Joe Gomez who put on all the bulk and Klopp said something like 'we don't need bodybuilders at the club'. Either way, I too was thinking about that when we were linked and wondered if we were to sign him, if Klopp would make him trim down.
17.) 25 Jan 2022 13:37:08
Slander?! 😂
I think Traore would offer more to Liverpool than Ox and Minamino do.
I'm not talking about what Traore offers Wolves. I don't know what Ox and Minamino would offer Wolves either.
If anyone thinks Ox and Minamino have offered a ton to Liverpool this season, I will respectfully disagree. They are average squad players and I think Traore would offer more of a threat as an attacking squad player.
There are reasons that Traore hasn't been playing much and there are reasons that Ox and Minamino haven't been playing very much.
They are all easily left out but, for me, one is far more dangerous than the other two.
18.) 25 Jan 2022 14:06:43
Rigsby, define dangerous? We have 13 players with more goals than Traore, and 21 players with more assists.
I respect your opinion, but it doesn't hold up to even basic analysis. Surely "dangerous" is defined by how many goals you score or create?
19.) 25 Jan 2022 15:47:11
I would much rather Traore in our squad than Minamino.
20.) 25 Jan 2022 17:27:54
Definition of danger -
The cause, possibility or likelihood of harm etc
Traore is most definitely ‘dangerous’ to the opposition in the football sense imo.
21.) 25 Jan 2022 18:09:44
Traore has more pace and power than Ox and Minamino. He runs with the ball better than them.
His stats are not good at all but he isn't playing much in a team that is more defensive than most. Wolves have scored 19 goals and conceded 16 this season.
People can think that Ox and Minamino are more dangerous players than Traore but I disagree. Traore wouldn't oust any of our front three but neither would Ox or Minamino.
Can anyone explain the 'tons' that Ox and Minamino have done this season.
22.) 25 Jan 2022 18:38:44
The owners keep doing bullets spending anymore! Do a great job of that ðŸ‘.
23.) 25 Jan 2022 19:07:45
Possibly dodged the Luis Diaz bullet as well.
24.) 25 Jan 2022 19:41:28
Stuie, you could well be very right. It's been a couple of years, and maybe the age is catching up with me.
25.) 25 Jan 2022 20:13:21
I won’t lie. The news of Spurs going for Traore did make me happy. If they can sign Dembele and Sanches too, that would be great.
26.) 25 Jan 2022 20:39:22
Considering Traore is a small fish in a relatively small pond he manages to create a lot of discussion and tension on the Liverpool fans forum, particularly for someone who has never played for us and hero fully never will.
The difference between Ox / Taki and Traore is the first have a degree of ‘football intelligence’ whilst Traore can run very quickly. Without doubt I would have the two we have, despite their flaws, every day of the week.
{Ed025's Note - the 3 of them are quite non-descript for me WDW, about as average as you can get mate..
27.) 25 Jan 2022 21:29:36
Traore has delusions of being average, Ed025.
28.) 25 Jan 2022 22:43:34
Fair enough comment Ed025, certainly Taki lacks physical presence and the ability to change the course of a game. Traore looks and plays like a sprinter who has wandered onto a footy pitch by accident. Ox, imho, is the best of the 3. - had the potential to be very useful but got side-tracked at Arsenal and was just showing signs of fulfilling his potential when we played Roma. He has a football brain in his head and can do a job (at times good job) but he won’t go as far now as he looked like he might of when he signed for Arsenal.
{Ed025's Note - ox is the best of the 3 imo WDW, but i think that injury put paid to him ever being more than a squad player mate..
29.) 25 Jan 2022 22:46:46
Traore doesn't have much football sense, that's true. But does the Ox?
Minamino might have but we never get to see it because he gets knocked off the ball before he has chance to do anything.
Not one of them is real footballer but one of them is a real athlete.
Even if he can't do it for 90 minutes 😂.
{Ed025's Note - he is a good athlete rigsby, which is why he should really perform on an athletic,s track rather than a football field mate..
30.) 25 Jan 2022 23:18:24
And the Ox should perform on TikTok with his wife and Minamino should be on the bottom weight in the first at Haydock Park 😂.
To be fair, Ox might have been ok had he been luckier with injuries.
I don't mind Minamino but he's too lightweight and without the pace to get himself out of trouble.
The best thing about him is that he cost next to nothing.
Does anyone get excited when Minamino or Ox come on as subs?
I don't.
31.) 26 Jan 2022 09:29:51
I'd get even less excited about Traore coming on that I do about Minamino, tbh.
In the last season and a half, Minamino, who you don't rate, has scored 12 goals. Traore has 3. Both predominantly play as a winger or forward.
It's not a case that Troare's goal return isn't good, it's that Traore's goal return is basically non-existent. Origi has outscored him 2 to 1 and Taku's outscored him 4 to 1. And whilst Traore isn't always first choice at Wolves, he's probably played at least as much football as Taku and Origi put together, probably more.
And this isn't just because Wolves are bad or too defensive btw. Leaving aside that when he does get goalscoring chances at Wolves he usually fluffs them, this guy has never scored goals anywhere. His best goal return any season is 6. His scoring rate for his entire career is less 1 goal in 10 games. Virgil van Dijk scores more goals than that. And he certainly doesn't offer assists to make up for it. I don't know what Conte sees in him (I suspect he'll play right wing back) or Klopp for that matter. And I don't really care either. If we're going to rely on "well [insert manager here] rates him", we might as well stop talking about any player. Because some manager somewhere will probably rate him.
I find it frankly mind-boggling that we deem Minamino not good enough, criticise Firmino for not scoring enough goals, Origi for being too laid back and are talking about Mane being a downward slope and yet Traore, who isn't fit to lace the boots of any of those players, is seen as the solution by some fans because he can dribble and run fast? No good if he never does anything with it.
32.) 26 Jan 2022 15:15:39
Agree with every word you said there, Something Red. Spot on.
33.) 26 Jan 2022 15:47:51
Who said Traore was the solution?
I just don't see Ox and Minamino as the solutions either.
Is it fair to compare the stats of players at different clubs?
I'd sooner have Traore as a squad player than Ox and Minamino is all I'm saying.
We'll probably never know how many goals and assists Traore would get for Liverpool and I'm ok with that. But I'm still waiting to hear about the tons that Ox and Minamino have contributed this season.
34.) 26 Jan 2022 16:48:39
If you're saying that you'd rather have Traore to Ox and Minamino (you're not the only one saying that, tbf), in a discussion about Traore signing for another club, then it seems to me that you think he's at least a possible solution to our squad depth issues.
And I have told you why that is silly. He is a blatantly less effective attacker than our existing squad attackers.
You can sit there and argue that 'we don't know how many goals and assists Traore would get for Liverpool' all you like, but we can make a reasonable guess based on his record vs. the pre Liverpool records of players we actually have.
Ox pre-LFC record is about comparable in that he didn't score very often either, but that hardly makes a case for Traore since his goal record hasn't improved since joining. And he spent more time at central mid for us anyway.
Minamino scored 64 goals for Salzburg. That's 2.5x what Traore has in his entire career. Mane was in double figures as soon as he arrived in the Premier League, Traore's never got near it. Jota scored 26 goals in just the two seasons before we signed him, in the same Wolves side as Traore, who scored 7 in that period. Traore is nowhere near what those lads were like before they joined, so it's a good bet he'd be nowhere near their level after joining us either. A good player at a 'small' club (and btw, Wolves are far from terrible. You talk about them like they barely scrape survival every season when they've been mid table) will still stand out. Mane stood out at Southampton. Jota stood out at Wolves. Minimano stood out when we played Salzburg. Traore stands out by dribbling past people and then doing nothing with the ball. That is no use.
The issue I'm taking is not that you want to replace Ox and Minamino, it's that you would rather have a player who is demonstratably worse.
35.) 26 Jan 2022 17:53:47
Why are you going on about Jota and Mane? I said Traore wouldn't oust any of our front three. And where have I said Wolves barely scrape survival every year?
It's all speculation about what Traore would do at Liverpool and I wouldn't look too much into the statistics. Saying we dodged a bullet because of what he hasn't done at Wolves is silly.
He would have been playing at Liverpool and how close we were to actually signing him anyway?
My personal opinion is that he would offer more as an attacking threat for us than Ox and Minamino.
If his stats at his previous clubs tell you differently, it's ok with me.
And it's 'demonstrably'.
36.) 26 Jan 2022 18:58:57
In fairness Rigsby, Traore has been pretty crap wherever he’s been. Couldn’t score if he had a fist full of dollars in a whore house.
37.) 26 Jan 2022 19:58:51
And Ox and Minamino have been pretty crap for Liverpool. It's hypothetical what Traore would do for us and we'll probably never find out but Ox and Minamino have been disappointing. That said, I want them to do well for us and I can also see Traore's career being disappointing. Someone like Klopp might make a decent squad player out of him though.
Can anyone tell me about the tons they've contributed to Liverpool this season?
04 Nov 2020 03:16:16
A mix of youth stepping up and some astute signings over the summer has given us options without too much drop in quality. This is the next step in a legendary side. Something to smile about in these sad times.
27 May 2019 10:17:07
Now we are competing in all top levels again I wonder if any top footballers that support liverpool would think about coming now.
Know KDB is a Liverpool fan, any other top footballers liverpool fans?
1.) 27 May 2019 11:17:36
whilst a lot of players have been liverpool supporters over the years, the majority will focus on playing football at the highest level!
aguero was also one!
2.) 27 May 2019 17:33:02
No player moves to the prem to win the league. Nobody moves to Spain to win La Liga. If we (anfield) can carry on knocking out teams and getting European final after final. Every Top player in world football wants that, they all want the Champions League, that's what it takes and I think our stadium is that good on UCL nights we could do it again next season.
3.) 27 May 2019 18:43:19
LiverpoolFC8, I fully agree with you. If anyone thinks top players aren't paying attention to what we are doing or have been doing at Anfield since Klopp arrived OR with the way we thumped Barcelona in an Anfield atmosphere for the ages, then they are gravely mistaken. Players in the end want to challenge for the big trophies (none bigger than the CL) and since LFC is now capable of making a CL final almost every year now, more would be more than willing to look at us as a serious option should b=we be in for them. Success attracts. It's that simple.
09 May 2019 01:02:26
I love reading the posts on here. Our posts are the most balanced and thought out posts from any website.
Can I just give my thoughts on our situation.
We have been in 3 european finals in 3 years. We have closed the premiership gap of man city's standard 95+ points from now on.
We are back in the big time, but not just that, we have only 1 player over 30 in our first team squad. Other best teams in europe have to rebuild in certain departments as their best players are past their prime.
The injuries this season to gomez and ox were 2 very important players, a couple of clever signings this summer (i have every confidence in klopp, this whole rant is solely because of him, yes he may take a player for a slap up free salad bar and main for £5.99 at a sea view restaurante in blackpool but he has the best knowhow on how good his team is to compete and utilising the best way to deal with the opposition. I feel klopp knows exactly how to get the best of every player that we are at the top because of him and how the players follow rather than individual talent. That said, klopp buys the player he know will work)
And we will be a force for years. I am so excited.
Cue klopp going to Barcelona tomorrow.
1.) 09 May 2019 06:22:56
Exciting time to be a red for sure jammin.
2.) 09 May 2019 08:18:20
OP, you should see what some fans from other clubs are saying about Klopp. They said that after the Barcelona game and looking at Klopp's body of work so far, he does not get the full credit he deserves for the job he is doing. Even Jose Mourinho did not hold back from the praises he showered on Klopp after the game.
I think it is time for all Reds to give this wonderful manager (and even a better man) his dues cos he has worked super hard to get us where he is. We are the envy of many in the football spectrum. Having said that, Klopp said after the game that he hopes to leave his greatest night after the final. That is the next step. YNWA!
3.) 09 May 2019 09:38:08
We have been in 3 European finals in 4 years.
16 Jun 2023 22:57:57
I van der ven he is going to sign? Should be soon.
05 May 2023 22:51:25
No. 5th place cannot qualify for CL if mancity win it.
13 Feb 2023 00:10:09
From eds review of how we are so bad right now a few weeks back it was mostly about how bad tactics are. I Don't blame the players as much as the tactics.
30 Jan 2022 15:12:36
Milner back up RB for 4 months?
05 Oct 2021 22:45:55
I think Milner has proved against teams like Porto he can do a job at right back but against quicker better opposition it has to be TAA and Milner maybe cannot do 2 games in 3 days. A very capable versatile sub is our Milner but not for back to back stuff.
28 Sep 2023 01:51:24
Only if they score first
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28 Sep 2023 01:50:52
Don't get what you are trying to say? I assume sexidm in dome form?
19 Jul 2023 22:59:35
It's better to be at the coalface to change people's minds about LGBTQ+ issues no?
06 Jul 2023 01:49:38
OK harry.
20 Jun 2023 01:57:58
International and club teams can not be compared. The former can only be coached a few days every few months. The latter can develop tactics every day. Stop comparing.