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23 May 2025 17:53:15
Frimpong kerkez wirtz some start to the window if true lads!
29 Aug 2024 23:03:38
Movement on varela now lads! Ed02 I’d love to get inside your head your contacts knowledge and insights are top notch! Regardless if we sign him you called it long ago most nvr heard of the guy!
Top work ??.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 09:08:07
Slot press conference pretty much put an end to deadline day for us all at least. Hopefully the focus switches to sorting out the contract situations and actually having a plan in place if Virgil, Salah and Trent all leave. Cheers Eds for keeping us posted throughout the summer!
2.) 30 Aug 2024 09:11:55
wildly different reports as to the RC. Some say 65, others 90m.
Is this guy more of a straight up CDM?
3.) 30 Aug 2024 09:22:27
To be honest I would be surprised if we did anything now. Plus I read Porto told us to do one even if we meet the RC can see them convincing him to stay until January at least.
4.) 30 Aug 2024 09:28:34
Varela not happening at them numbers Vango. Be interested in how things have been conducted with his agent we have been speaking to the last week or so.
5.) 30 Aug 2024 10:03:49
Ed002, do you think there will be a bid for him today? Idk how trustworthy are those Argentine journalists calling for the deal when they state a wrong release clause for him but every act this window except Zubimendi's has been broken out by foreign journalists- Mamardashvili by Valencia media and Chiesa by Romano and you of course have been stating the whole window that the interest is there. I know that you do not like to comment on possibilities but is Liverpool likely to pay the release clause?
{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation.}
6.) 30 Aug 2024 10:42:06
€70million in one go and the player will be consulted is what the ED said previously. Let's see what happens.
7.) 30 Aug 2024 10:49:26
Ending the window with glaring holes at DM and CB would be so disappointing. I like the two we brought in but hard to give the window more than a 3/ 10 if it was to close now.
8.) 30 Aug 2024 10:55:47
Porto did just add Vieira on loan, bit of a different player but another number in midfield. So who knows maybe they would be willing to let him go even though we have left it late.
9.) 30 Aug 2024 11:13:44
Sorry, where is the glaring hole in CB? We have 4 first teamers, with Endo being able to fill in there at a push. Van dijk plays every CL and prem game anyway.
10.) 30 Aug 2024 11:18:30
There is no glaring hole in deffence if Gomez is staying. He is a better option than many of the suggested new shiny toys in the market.
There is a glaring hole in the DM position, however.
11.) 30 Aug 2024 13:06:01
Just remember Nat Phillips hasn’t left and has a squad number…. Also Bajcetic hasn’t gone anywhere yet. So I guess from a ‘club’ perspective we are fully stocked. From a quality perspective, well that’s subjective.
12.) 30 Aug 2024 13:35:35
I don’t know much about Varela but is he really £65m better than what we already have?
13.) 30 Aug 2024 14:57:01
his release clause is 70 million € in one go. Porto signed him last summer and have no interest in selling or negotiating! We aren't going to pay 70 million € in one go for a 21 year old with one season in Europe. More likely a target for next summer where we already have done some leg work with his agent, and maybe Porto will be more willing to sell then for a structured deal. I believe the same goes for Goncalo Inacio.
16 Aug 2024 17:44:38
So we’ve not met the valuation off that keeper so the deals off! According to reports!
1.) 16 Aug 2024 18:05:19
Chelsea should get Richard Hughes in to deal with their future transfers - they'll save a fortune by not buying anyone.
2.) 16 Aug 2024 18:13:00
Either way Hughes is having a stinker.
3.) 16 Aug 2024 18:13:09
Sweet baby Jesus, at this rate we're going to be blacklisted from entering into negotiations with half of Europe's clubs.
4.) 16 Aug 2024 18:28:17
Where have you got this info from Jay? I can't find anything that confirms this, the closest was the Valencia manager getting a bit annoyed at questions about Giorgi Mamardashvili's move - much like every other manager where one of their star players is linked to a move away.
5.) 16 Aug 2024 18:34:10
Had to share this hilarious Nostradamus-like post from MeanMrMustard on the Liverpoolfc. com forum.
- 8.11 pm - Breaking news. Liverpool have just bid for X
- 8.27 pm - Breaking news. Liverpool have just had their bid for X knocked back, the player's club said categorically he's not for sale
- 8.32 pm - Breaking news. Liverpool have just bid for Y
- 8.34 pm - Breaking news. Liverpool have just launched an audacious bid for player Z and are confident this gets done
- 8.47 pm- Breaking news. Liverpool have just had their audacious bid for player Z REJECTED
- 9.07 pm Breaking news. I'm hearing Liverpool have just launched an incredible £150m bid for player H. this is really incredible news as Richard Hughes is really upping the ante
- 9.11pm - Breaking news. Liverpool have FAILED in their attempt to secure player Y - the selling club has said its too late to get a replacement but would have sold him no problem 2 weeks ago
- 9.19pm - Breaking news. The noises coming out of Anfield is that player H IS CLOSE TO BEING DONE and Liverpool have also in recent minutes lodged a £75mbid for player M to Slovenian club C
- 9.22pm - Breaking news - Latest reports are that Liverpool are trying to negotiate weekly payments of £22.50 for player J but time is running out
- 9.33pm - Breaking news - Incredibly Liverpool have had their incredible £150m bid for player H KNOCKED BACK with reports emerging the player he wanted to stay with his club near a local golf club
- 9.39pm - Breaking news - I'm hearing Liverpool have not given up on player Y and gone back with an increased offer of only £20m below the selling club's asking price
- 9.44pm - Breaking news - Incredible scenes here at Anfield, we're hearing player C is BACK ON as Richard Hughes pulls out all the stops
- 9.48pm - Breaking news - Incredible scenes here at Anfield, we're hearing player C is NOW OFF as Richard Hughes pulls out all his hair
- 9.52pm - Breaking news - After missing out on players X, Y, Z, C, J, and H in the last few hours Liverpool have launched an incredible last minute hijack attempt to prise player O away from club U
- 9.56pm - Breaking news - incredible scenes here as we're hearing Liverpool have FAILED in their incredible last minute hijack attempt to prise player O away from club U
-9.58 pm - Breaking news - Liverpool have announced they have completed the resigning of Naby Keita on a season long loan from wherever he is.
- 10.00pm - DING DONG - WINDOW SLAMS SHUT.
6.) 16 Aug 2024 18:47:17
Richard Hughes features on deal or no deal next month.
Apparently he came home empty handed.
7.) 16 Aug 2024 18:56:26
Does Hughes set the parameters on what he is allowed to spend or someone above him.
If it’s Hughes there would be nothing stopping him bidding 200 mill for a player and then leaving himself.
8.) 16 Aug 2024 19:02:33
Can't find anything which says deal is off.
9.) 16 Aug 2024 19:42:26
Just get Hughes out the club he can take Edwards with him.
10.) 16 Aug 2024 19:55:57
JK, I imagine it’s the accountants that will give Hughes an outline of what he can spend but by and large it’ll be down to him.
11.) 16 Aug 2024 20:34:42
If Richard Hughes went on Deal or No Deal he’d end up owing the banker money. Doesn’t appear the most competent person in the world.
12.) 16 Aug 2024 20:38:29
As far as I can tell the only thing to change today is Valencia manager Ruben Baraja saying a deal hasn't been done yet.
Nothing to say the deal is off, but hey I guess FSG aren't giving us enough ammo by not making any signings by the 16th of August and being rebuffed by Zubimendi, so we can always make stuff up.
{Ed002's Note - Giorgi Mamardashvili is complicated.}
13.) 16 Aug 2024 21:36:39
JK the club will have set a budget. He acts within that. I would imagine the CEO of football (Edwards) would have some say.
14.) 16 Aug 2024 22:35:19
Cheers Fuser / redwook.
15.) 17 Aug 2024 00:49:06
Remarkable the way Richard Hughes has been appointed public enemy number 1, without anybody having any idea about what’s actually going on.
1. We tried to sign a player who initially indicated he wanted to come to Liverpool and the changed his mind.
2. Social Media, in the absence of any concrete comment by Liverpool, Valencia or the GK whose name I can’t spell are making up a variety of conflicting stories on a daily basis.
3. We have not renewed contracts for Adrian, Matip or Thiago - all in their mid-30s and all nominated as too old and candidates for the 3 it door on this very board for about the past 12-18 months.
4. We have sold Carvalho and Clark, the firmer again someone who has been touted as someone to be sold for 12-24 months as a player who wasn’t going to break into the team and had a poor attitude and the latter who seemed to be a potential candidate for a squad player but not necessarily someone who was going to be a natural starter.
5. We haven’t (yet) renewed the contracts for VVD, TAA or Mo. given we are moving into the last 12 months of their contracts you could argue that the previous management set up should have done something 12-24 months ago.
6. Apart from Zubimendi and the GK we haven’t tried to sign anybody. I’m assuming that is because there has been no media coverage of us chasing players in public, although evidence of recent years would suggest that the club has been doing business out of the spotlight. Equally what the club (as an example Slot yesterday) are saying that there are no real candidates to come in and improve the squad might actually be true. There’s no point in spending / wasting money just so fans can say we bought someone / anyone.
Anyway, I’m confused (though not surprise) that We have found a scapegoat but I’d love to hear a rational explanation of how all of (or any of) the above can be pinned on one person.
{Ed001's Note - 1. The issue is that time was wasted on a player we didn't need and who offered no new skillset from the players already at the club, while he did nothing to address actual needs.
2. Again a player we have no need of, that is taking focus and attention from him, when he should be working to bring in what we need.
3. Not sure how that is relevant, none were needed.
4. That is an aspect he has got right. Neither were likely to get a place in the team.
5. This is the big issue, which should have priority number one to sort out. Not sure of the relevance of the previous administration's failing here. That doesn't stop them from dealing with it for months.
6. Yet we know there are gaps that need addressing and it is their job to find the players that can improve the squad. If they are not finding them, then they are failing badly. We already have the best goalkeeper in the world and a number of excellent young keepers coming through but they have still managed to find, and attempt to sign, another young keeper to address a gap in the squad that doesn't exist.}
16.) 17 Aug 2024 01:21:53
Ed001 from your reply to West Derby wanderer I take it your not too impressed with what positions we've decided to improve. can I ask whose made these obvious mistake as even I know we should decide on contracts an then strengthen different positions. is slot not seeing the weakness in the squad that needs improvement.
{Ed001's Note - Slot is not in charge of recruitment or contract renewals. He will make his recommendations but that is all. Hughes is in charge of recruitment. I am not 100% sure who is handling contract renewals now, but if it is him, then his first focus should have been to deal with the big 3. If it is not him, then his first focus should have been on buying players to fill gaps in the team, not unnecessary signings of players we already have a squad full of. Either way, he is not doing it.}
17.) 16 Aug 2024 21:28:04
Ed002, could you explain the complication?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool cannot sign the player and loan him to Bournemouth. The simple solution would be to have agreed with Valencia to sign him and loan him back to them for a year or two. Valencia say they are unclear what is going on. There will need to be oversight if he ends up at Bournemouth as it could be seen as third party interference with Hughes helping out his old club - rather than his new club. IF Alisson were departing this summer it makes sense. But LIverpool should be addressing their priorities.}
18.) 17 Aug 2024 10:19:05
@Ed01 - I take the point about time wasting and un-necessary effort of players we don’t need but that wasn’t what Inwas getting at. Surely the selection of targets is a process that involves more than one individual (at least I sincerely hope it is’. I thought Hughes was more the designated negotiator than a one man band for transfers.
I’m not saying Hughes is perfect, and I’m hopeful that he will take the lessons he should have learned in the past few months but I really don’t believe he is responsible for everything that does (or doesn’t happen at the club.
{Ed001's Note - but he is responsible for making signings, which means he is failing.}
19.) 17 Aug 2024 10:58:53
In your eyes, ed, what are the gaps?
From my perspective (rightly or wrongly) we have a brand new regime and the only thing constant in this is the squad from last season. Everybody who has come in has had to assess a disparate squad with various tournaments occurring and had to work out where the gaps are with fresh eyes, not entirely knowing the style slot would be implementing. I'd rather we'd sign no one and save funds for definite needs than purchasing for the sake of it. Anyone who EXPECTS us to be challenging for the title this season is just being unreasonable reasonable.
Not to say I think we shouldn't sign anyone, but I'd rather we sign no one, utilise a squad that's capable of gaining top four and then spend bigger when it's truly necessary and everyone is aligned, than to spend for the sake of it.
{Ed001's Note - I have said so many times, we need long term replacements for Virgil and Mo.}
20.) 17 Aug 2024 11:58:38
Exactly that Ed. It’s no good saying this squad is great it’s hard to find improvements. It’s his job to find improvements. I wish I got a job on his wages where I could just say we can’t do anything and everyone fall for it.
21.) 17 Aug 2024 11:19:05
I thought the only two we’d actually made a concrete offer for were Zubimendi, who changed his mind, and for thr goalkeeper we are trying to sign?
22.) 17 Aug 2024 11:42:51
Ed, who is as good as Zubi, aside from Alexis?
The GK is an issue if its known that CK wants to move on now and Ali in a year or two, future planning makes sense on many levels.
No one knows the true desires of Trent, VVD and Mo. Maybe the latter want to see out their contracts and move on a free, for one last big pay day. That would put the onus on them, rather than the club. Isn't it always a bit cagey in such situation?
Maybe Trent wants to see how things develop under Slot, and where / how he plays, or if he becomes captain once Virgil leaves.
{Ed002's Note - There are numerous very good DM players - Guimaraes, Kimmich, Palhinha, Hjulmond, Vitinha, Fofana, Ugarte, Rodri ....
The club need to understand the intentions of the players, certainly.}
15 Jul 2023 12:16:48
Ed is there any cdm’s about we could get on loan for a season and do a job? and could possibly help the likes of baj and Levia if bought?
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Liverpool looking to take such a player on loan.}
1.) 15 Jul 2023 13:13:45
Please god, not a loanee. I would love us to go all out for Caicedo now (quality, prem proven, right age etc) but I doubt we will. Lavia as our first choice DM, perhaps?
2.) 15 Jul 2023 13:36:48
47 I’m with you mate. Even it’s financially viable in any way then alongside Lavia we should be going all out for Caicedo. Not saying Caicedo is the be all and end all but those two in the holding roles alongside Mac Allister, Szoboszlai and a defender. Then I honestly see us going toe to toe with City in all competitions. But Lavia and another holding midfielder in Manu Kone, Florentino Luís even Thuram if he can be converted into a holding midfielder, which we did with Fabinho so I don’t see why not, then I also feel we can compete on all fronts.
3.) 15 Jul 2023 14:18:21
Honest question, but why would we even be considering Levia as a replacement for fab when we already have Baj?
Surely we need someone quality with experience if they are to fill fabs boots. I personally don't rate caicido either.
Send Sporting a box of quality street and a bunch of flowers and get Ugarte.
{Ed002's Note - Ugarte has moved elsewhere.}
4.) 15 Jul 2023 14:56:52
There’s a 26 year old DM. Brazilian international once bought for over £65m who has worked with Klopp before available for loan.
5.) 15 Jul 2023 15:01:01
Yes thanks ed. I'm a bit behind the times tbh. Oh well, everything happens for a reason. Missed a trick there though, as i really rate him.
{Ed002's Note - Klopp blew any chance of that happening.}
6.) 15 Jul 2023 15:29:20
I honestly don't see the logic of a loan considering our midfield will be new to each other. buy and led them all bed in together!
26 May 2023 16:57:44
Not Liverpool related really!
But want to ask the Ed’s who they think have the best football scouts in the business!
I see Brighton have done well I’d be leaning towards them?
{Ed002's Note - Chelsea, Ajax and Barcelona stand out. But it is the structure that is important. Brighton’s recruitment team have departed.}
1.) 26 May 2023 18:42:30
Chelsea!?!?
You sure.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, they have recruited many exceptional youngsters again and have developed plans for the future- having one bad season has not impacted any of this.}
2.) 26 May 2023 18:47:17
Chelsea? Really.
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
3.) 26 May 2023 19:29:15
Chelsea produce an immense amount of talent. Arsenal and City both seem to be a cut above the rest too right now. Liverpool is improving, but seems a bit behind the times still. Same goes for United.
4.) 26 May 2023 19:44:20
I think Chelsea have won more than any other english club the last 20 years. I reckon they’ve recruited fairly well. Definitely have the best academy in England i wish we had similar.
5.) 26 May 2023 20:40:06
They’ve spent a huge amount in the last 20 years also. I do think Liverpool are improving but still seem a long way behind Arsenal, City and Chelsea in this regard.
6.) 26 May 2023 19:09:21
Brighton are the elite at this now. Ed who are they planning on replacing Mac Allister with?
I’d be getting that guy!
Because Every time someone comes in, they’re better than the previous.
{Ed002's Note - No. Their recruitment department have left. They have a replacement in mind.}
7.) 26 May 2023 21:39:35
Chelsea probably should've given Potter more time to get that group to play as a team, I think they will be up at the top end again next season, they need a striker though.
{Ed002's Note - They probably should have kept Tuchel.}
8.) 26 May 2023 22:02:35
You thoughts on Pochetino, if he is Chelsea’s new manager? Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - You need to ask on the Chelsea page.}
9.) 26 May 2023 23:54:18
Chelsea have broken every rule going to get where they are with the academy and probably first team. It’s like the criminal who does unspeakable thing’s to accumulate wealth and then sells the ill gotten gains and pretends his next venture is above board and best in class. Chelsea like Man City should be discounted from any trophies and praise. If you can’t win by fair rules then don’t enter the competition.
{Ed002's Note - In what watt have the Chelsea academy broken every rule?}
10.) 27 May 2023 00:58:34
not sure every rule but haven't they not too distant ago serve a year transfer ban?
{Ed002's Note - Do you thin that worthy of a ban>}
11.) 27 May 2023 01:53:53
not at all, but just stating that they must have broken some to have gotten it.
12.) 27 May 2023 06:03:15
So the real question should be where has Brighton recruitment team gone? Could be signing of the year lol.
13.) 27 May 2023 09:04:39
I heard Dan Ashworth oversaw the scouting dept at Brighton brought in a change of scouting so instead of the geographical way of doing it changed to a positional way of doing it. So they send scouts anywhere to look for say a FB (estupinia) spelling! as opposed to say being assigned to just S America
Also expect Brighton esque signings at Newcastle as that’s where he’s gone
Been playing Xbox with a bunch of geordies for 15 years so know just as much about their club as I do mine lol.
14.) 27 May 2023 09:51:19
Brighton owner Bloom has a sport intelligence agency which is separate from Brighton the club. This way it’s hard for other clubs to steal his best nerds or methods.
15.) 27 May 2023 11:12:25
Ed002 Chelsea invested massively before FFP came in and it has put the club on great footing ever since so I don’t know what rules they broke and not even sure what the ban was for.
Their Academy has been by far the best in the the league over the last 20 years.
I think the investment Chelsea did when Roman came in was one of the biggest reasons FFP came in with the likes of Madrid and Barcelona not liking somebody have a bigger budget than them what I find a check with the way there league is set up for them two to take more tv money out than the rest of the league.
16.) 27 May 2023 23:51:38
And we all know Roman got all his money from the massive chain of pet farms and children’s sweetie shops that his mate Vladimir gave him the franchises for. It was either that or the millions and millions he acquired from the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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19 Jun 2025 10:58:31
Diaz rumours be ending now Barcelona got Williams.
1.) 19 Jun 2025 11:32:48
Jay, not surprised at all. Pretty sure he was ever their first choice. In fact, the late great ex-rodeo clown (RIP Ed02) had mentioned from back then when Diaz's dad was hawking him to Barca, that he was not their first choice.
2.) 19 Jun 2025 11:35:34
He was never going to Barca. If he leaves this summer it will be Saudi.
3.) 19 Jun 2025 11:50:42
One last fat payday, with wages probably 5 x what he is paid now at least.
That'll be 80m, please Saudi's.
4.) 19 Jun 2025 12:46:04
I hope he stays. Go watch the video’s from his wedding. People in Liverpool shirts, they were all signing his Liverpool song and dancing etc. He’s one of us now. I can’t see him picking Saudi over staying at Liverpool. I hope not anyway.
5.) 19 Jun 2025 13:22:19
Currently he's on £55k a week and has 2 years left, by which time he will be 30.
Does anyone think we should offer a longer, newer contract to him now, or see how things go in next year?
Some things to bear in mind:
1) How much more would he want to earn? I would assume he'd want to be in the £150k+ category
2) How long a contract would he want - not sure we'd offer a 5 year deal given his age?
3) What are our other LW options? I really rate Gakpo and I'm excited to see what Rio can bring. Needs to be someone in between too and I'd like to see if Doak is closer to first team squad than Rio?
I really like him as a player, his jinking dribbling is great and offers something that we don't currently have, so I can certainly see a place for him.
6.) 19 Jun 2025 13:24:46
Hopefully he stays next season at least, he had v good season last season overall and I think we would struggle to get better.
Ideally a new contract but still I'm sure saudi would pay decent fee next summer for him. If Barcelona out of equation I be quite confident he stay with us.
7.) 19 Jun 2025 13:54:32
I wouldn't offer him a new contract. Let the current one run out or sell him if he wants to go.
8.) 19 Jun 2025 14:01:19
Money talks MK. If an offer comes in I can see him jumping ship.
9.) 19 Jun 2025 14:18:31
The thing with diaz is not whether he wants to stay- I'm sure he'd love to stay given he was handed a pay rise- but whether Liverpool see value in renewing his contract with improved terms at his age, or whether they see enough value in him to keep him another two years before letting him run his contract down.
Given he earns so little relative to his status in the game it would surely be worth improving his terms to protect his value, but he might think he's worth a lot more than what the money men have in mind. Bit of a sticky situation really, maybe give it another season to see how it pans out? With wirtz here his minutes will be impacted, but he is unquestionably a quality player with superb work rate.
10.) 19 Jun 2025 14:34:24
Agree Digger. Jota, Nunez, Elliott and Chiesa are the forwards that should be moved on. Gakpo, Diaz and Salah was our first choice front 3 in a title winning season where we outscored everyone. It was our defence that let us down at times, hence why Arsenal had a better defensive record than us despite being miles off us points tally wise. Kerkez and Frimpong hopefully help with that.
Wirtz and Isak are nice to haves because they are game changers of Salah-esque levels. They weren’t needed per se.
11.) 19 Jun 2025 14:35:48
I wouldn't give him a new contract either.
12.) 19 Jun 2025 14:54:47
MKS, I saw the clip too. really nice touch. For me, I think Diaz is happy with staying at least for one more season cos at that point, he will have one more year left and if LFC won't extend him, he walks to get that big pay day, IMO. All parties are happy.
13.) 19 Jun 2025 15:00:07
Yes, lucho deserves a raise is absolutely no doubt about it.
14.) 19 Jun 2025 15:09:30
He should get a new contract on better wages and have a release caluse. He has earned that this season.
We all can say he signed knowingly but human nature is such that. when he hears Wirtz at 200, Chiesa at 150 and VVD and Salah at 300, invariably it will affect him.
Give him a raise, keep him happy and we will have 2 very good players for the left wing position and we need it.
15.) 19 Jun 2025 16:09:44
Good. He is a keeper.
{Ed077's Note - no, he's a LW / false nine ?
18 Jun 2025 13:54:44
Gomez + 60m = Isak
Thoughts?
{Ed077's Note - LHS ≠ RHS. Hence disproven.
1.) 18 Jun 2025 15:27:02
Drugs are bad, mkaay?
2.) 18 Jun 2025 15:27:37
Gomez + £100m base + another £20m in add-ons maybe.
3.) 18 Jun 2025 15:36:25
Not a chance. Gomez + Jota + £100m upfront might do it but assume t.
4.) 18 Jun 2025 15:49:25
And what is Gomez's monetary worth here?
{Ed025's Note - i would say 49p would be fair.. :)
5.) 18 Jun 2025 15:51:12
Jay dub so you think Gomez is worth 70 million then ?.
{Ed025's Note - i hope thats Turkish Lira?..
6.) 18 Jun 2025 16:24:53
Jay, your sums do not logically stack up. Is there a basis for your wishful thinking or is it just a delusion?
7.) 18 Jun 2025 15:38:38
OK Ed077, in which case Gomez + £20m = Isak.
How about that?
{Ed077's Note - ???? £120m and then Maybe start the Convo? ?
8.) 18 Jun 2025 16:52:23
Gomez + Eliott and 70m might be more likely.
I think both would do well at Newcastle but I just don't see us getting Isak without major sales.
Having said that, imagine if our window is Frimpong, Kerkez, Wirtz and Isak. You may as well close transfer windows after that as how do you top that?
9.) 18 Jun 2025 17:02:09
Until Gomez can prove his fitness i reckon it would be difficult to give him away, they might fancy Jota but again fitness is an issue, i don't think they need Elliot. Quansah might be the best bet if we're going down the player plus money route.
10.) 18 Jun 2025 17:56:38
All joking aside (both too low and too high! ) I genuinely think we tend to undervalue our players whilst overvaluing others (I mean us as a fan group, not as a team! ) .
Jota - £40m all day long. Yes he has injury issues but he has been in the EPL for 8-9 seasons and does score goals.
Elliot - £30-£40m - High bar, great player. Only never made it here as his best position is either RW (he's too slow for us the way we play) or AM (we have recruited someone better but the same age) . He's also HG.
Gomez - £25-£30m - has had injury issues sporadically but when they have cropped up they've been pretty serious - knee in 2020/ 21 (51 games), Calf injury in 21/ 22 (9 games) and a hamstring injury last season which kept him out for a total of 28 games. However, he is HG, has had plenty of games and is a good standard - just not as good as Robbo, Konate, VVD or Trent in the last few years, hence has played backup when he's been available. Also HG.
Quansah - £25-£30m or more. Is young, HG and has come through our academy. Not the best defensive instincts yet, but he's 11 years younger than VVD! This is one that I would like to have a buyback clause on as I think he may have a very high ceiling.
At the lower end of my guesses, we're at £120m. Quansah in particular could go much higher as I'm sure plenty of clubs will see his potential.
The proof of the pudding will be when they are actually sold (if they are) but I certainly don't think Liverpool will be letting Jota go for £20-£25m given how difficult it has been to find strikers! As a last stat on Jota, looking just at his seasons in the EPL, he has scored or assisted every 133 minutes. And of his time in the EPL, he has played as a CF 47% of the time, a LW 40% of the time, and the remaining times he has played as a RW or a SS.
11.) 18 Jun 2025 17:21:24
LOL???. Turkish Lira Ed 25!
25 May 2025 19:25:23
What a day UTFR! 25 you’d want to close your curtains ?.
{Ed025's Note - i had a very good day actually Jay, i applauded the reds even though i thought they were awful mate, i was happy that Trent got a free ride as i thought that was important..
20 May 2025 13:01:43
I’ve not seen much of wirtz infact none at all I can’t see him not going to Bayern but what’s peoples opinions of him is he worth that kinda money? (Lost my password haven’t been on in ages) hope all is well UTFR.
1.) 20 May 2025 13:39:41
Hey Jay, welcome back! I've only seen highlights, but over a few years as we were linked with 2-3 years ago originally (or even longer? ) .
What is intriguing is the post further down that alleges that his clause for Germany (or even Bayern? ) is €150m but his clause for the rest of Europe is €100m
At £126m I'd be unsure of his value, not because he's not worth that, but because we have a number of players to get this window and most of the ones we get will be starters ergo expensive.
At £84m, that's a whole other ball game and would be great value and affordable with a top striker and other players too.
With apologies to Ed002, Wirtz at £84m and Isak around £120m, plus Frimpong, Kerkez and Hato for a total of £100m, with our sales raising around £200m+ would mean a net investment of £100m for 4 quality first 11 players. If we could gel quickly, it'd be an AMAZING window!
2.) 20 May 2025 13:55:14
He looks a very good player. but we need a disciplined midfielder fist and foremost before looking at ACMs. Gravenberch once again ghosted through out yesterday. couldn't win one second ball all night. I am told he is the second coming of Makelele by MKS and others. Anyways, He needs rest and competition. The way Baleba ran through our entire midfield unchallanged was embarassing.
if you give me an option to choose from Kante and Maradona, I would chose Kante because he is what we need atm.
3.) 20 May 2025 14:02:18
He’s the best and getting better. He elevates the whole club. Will be a superstar would generate massive income for the club and ensure we continue to compete for the major trophies. A level about Bellingham.
4.) 20 May 2025 14:11:54
Gravenberch's role in our team isn't anything like makalele. Maybe it would help if you figured out what he does.
5.) 20 May 2025 14:12:38
Hes a top, top player. A difference maker with magic feet. A really exciting player to watch. Potential to be one of the best players in the world for me. I'd rather him than isak even though we need a striker more which is probably stupid of me but he's just so good to watch. Just turned 22 and looks both footed. If i had to describe him to someone who has only watched the premier league I would say he has similar dribbling levels to hazard but more rangey with the quick stop to start of someone like palmer and the balance of a foden.
6.) 20 May 2025 14:13:44
He is on the cusp of being one of the very best players in the world if he isn't already, and he is young enough to get even better. All this plus his work rate is very high and he is comparatively combative for somebody playing his position.
7.) 20 May 2025 14:14:41
Incredible player, great at pressing, creative, good dribbler, great striker of the ball and impeccable vision.
Would be a huge improvement in what we currently have and if the opportunity arises, somebody you don’t pass up on.
Honestly we don’t need a world class striker, at the moment it isn’t hard to improve on what we already have, thisg guy can score and see passes others don’t. I’d be happy to spend the money on wirtz and throw a couple of quid at delap, with salah and wirtz delap wouldn’t have to be great to get goals.
8.) 20 May 2025 15:14:01
But does he cause Chaos?
9.) 20 May 2025 15:15:01
What a window that would be Zed!
10.) 20 May 2025 15:15:29
Anyone who would chose Kante over Maradona in any circumstances is anti football and shouldn't be taken seriously.
11.) 20 May 2025 15:58:13
"if you give me an option to choose from Kante and Maradona, I would chose Kante because he is what we need atm. "
Yep. This is one for the ages, @Red-Will-is-1.
12.) 20 May 2025 19:55:23
The parade will be enough to convince anyone to come and sign us.
13.) 20 May 2025 20:32:16
@Scouse, maybe we should havve invited Wirtz and his reps. to witness the parade rather than meeting with them, don't you think?
24 May 2025 06:38:21
Elliot is no winger he can’t run! He won’t get much game time the club and himself know his career stagnate if he stays the lad wants to play and will only happen elsewhere.
18 Aug 2024 12:25:56
Think Joe had a solid season last season but his injuries cost him and as ed25 would say one swallow don’t mean it’s summer! If we got 30m and brought in 3 solid players id be happy! But it’s not going to happen!
02 Aug 2024 17:51:56
He’d ruin the poker nites.
02 Aug 2024 17:51:30
Hate hearing this kinda thing I’m leaving because I want to play! Work hard play hard and if you’re good enough you’ll start and keep your place!
It’s up there with I’ll only sign if I play! Massive red flags for me!
New black away kit looks tops gang ??.
{Ed001's Note - it's green.}
31 Jul 2024 13:45:43
Inter web saying Gordon/ gomez 90% done?
05 Jun 2025 16:26:31
He’s bang average if he wasn’t Scouse he’d of been sold years ago!
24 May 2025 10:58:24
Hang on 25 mate you got nuts? How exotic ? I got a stale orange and a boot in the hole not to be late ?.
{Ed025's Note - we sound like the old codgers Jay.. :)
24 May 2025 10:56:33
Some people saying over a million to attend it will
Be epic.