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28 Aug 2024 13:03:24
Being reported that Chiesa deal is done.
Benvenuto Federico.
1.) 28 Aug 2024 13:51:58
If it’s true, I don’t get it. Good player for sure, but Jota and Diaz both play on the left with Gakpo and Nunez both able to play there as well. Personally I’d keep what we have - he’s not a salah replacement, which is more crucial in the next year or two so we have decent competition with Harvey.
2.) 28 Aug 2024 14:23:10
Chiesa has played most of his career games off the right wing.
He’s scored most of his goals from the right wing.
He can play other positions too.
{Ed002's Note - A right footed right winger - totally different to Salah.}
3.) 28 Aug 2024 15:11:23
Salah is a phenom.
There’s no one like him.
But Chiesas played most games off the right wing and scored most goals from there also.
That’s not to say he’ll only play there.
30 May 2023 12:21:34
Do Eds/ posters think that the new Sporting Director may bring with him targets or will the targets already be identified?
I read that he signed Micky van de Ven for Wolfsburg in his previous role.
He’s a left sided centre back at 22 years old who has been linked with a move to fellow PL teams such as arsenal in recent times.
Knowing that we seem to be after a centre back, do you think he may suggest him?
{Ed002's Note - They would have spoken to him about targets and no doubt he will have ideas but they will not throw away all the work previously done.
Micky van de Ven (CB) Dortmund und and Arsenal have spoken with Wolfsburg and been told he will be agreeing a new contract. It is not on the TMS yet but I understand it has happened. Liverpool and Manchester City were at a game against Dortmund in November - I had assumed to watch JB but van der Ven scored that day. Team Mino have now agreed a new deal so a sale this summer seems unlikely.}
09 Mar 2023 13:50:46
Ed001 / Ed002
There doesn’t seem to be any reported progress regarding the search for Julian Wards replacement.
Do you think fans should be concerned at all at this lack of progress? Or do you think lots of work is being done behind the scenes?
Will it hinder summer transfer plans for sales or recruitment?
Now that it seems a full sale of the club is less likely and a minority investment is more likely on the cards, will this speed up the process? I. e. any new majority owners may have wanted to bring in their own man and possibly deterred any potential suitors for DoF until the sale was resolved.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any lack of progress Keith - as I have said there have been approaches made tothree (although it could be four) potential candidates. It is unrelated to the sale of the club or investment in FSG.}
1.) 09 Mar 2023 14:47:39
Ed2. Are you able to let us know who are the three or four candidates we have approached? If it’s unimportant, not to worry.
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, it would not be appropriate at this time.}
2.) 09 Mar 2023 15:21:27
Ed2. I understand. Main thing is we are in the process of trying to hire one and that’s all that matters ?.
3.) 09 Mar 2023 17:40:39
I feel people worry far too much about the behind the scenes people these days.
4.) 09 Mar 2023 19:47:05
I agree Tristan but it's so tempting to get a peep behind the curtains with the insights Ed02 can give.
5.) 09 Mar 2023 19:53:22
I agree @Tristan, the club have been hiring back room staff for years and it’s never been something that’s been put under scrutiny. Not a criticism of the OP but it’s just another thing that absolutely everybody MUST have an opinion one and be quick to become adversary about without us actually knowing what we are talking about.
6.) 09 Mar 2023 20:23:36
People need to know everything these days and demand regular updates. At some point they'll be asking how the hiring process of a new cashier at the club shop is going.
7.) 09 Mar 2023 17:55:29
Based on Eds, other news and my own opinion, 4 possible candidates are Mitchell, Mislintat, Krosche and Freund. Due to contract situations the new DOF can only begin on 1st July 2023 anyway so no real rush.
8.) 09 Mar 2023 22:01:13
Thanks for the reply Ed002, appreciate the insight.
Few funny replies tbf. I’m not “demanding updates” ?.
{Ed002's Note - Well Keith, I would not worry too much about it. Up until now Liverpool have used Sporting Directors rather differently to many clubs. It has largely worked out in recent years. Those being looked at now would result in a shift of approach - I have previously mentioned Paul Mitchell as a potential option.}
9.) 10 Mar 2023 05:30:07
I think it’s the insinuation that hearing nothing means nothing is happening which means FSG is bad.
Not saying that’s the underlying feeling of the OP, but I often think people get too preoccupied with updates.
Understandable mind.
01 Dec 2022 08:22:05
Ed002 - please put to bed these rumours of Sven Mintslat taking over from Ward as sporting director?
He would be a woefully poor appointment to say the least.
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure that the owners are looking to such appointments when the club will be chaning hands.}
1.) 01 Dec 2022 10:39:16
Just curious. How do you know he'd be a poor appointment?
2.) 01 Dec 2022 13:01:40
Signed a loada future superstars for Dortmund, has to be tripe.
3.) 01 Dec 2022 19:35:43
Hi ed2, there’s a Boston journalist reporting that it’s more likely that FSG will be taking an investor than a full buy out right now. Are you hearing anything similar or are you expecting a full buy out?
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, for the past year FSG has been looking to sell part of the club but the interest is an issue. FSG want the money for a new project and that would require the sale of the club. All options remain viable.}
4.) 01 Dec 2022 20:43:49
New project requires sale of club mean looking into requiring another club by any chance?
5.) 01 Dec 2022 21:20:38
Oh mane mane and Jude.
You only have to look at his more recent appointment at arsenal, where he signed the following players:
Mkhitaryan
Mavropanos
Leno
Sokratis
Torreira
Guendouzi
Lichensteiner
That’s enough for me to say he would be a poor person to put in charge of transfers at Liverpool.
Yes he signed Auba and Dembele at Dortmund. But I don’t think that makes him qualified and with the attitudes on those two I would rather pass thanks.
I think Ed014 is the arsenal Ed (I may have that wrong), would be interested to hear from him, what he thinks of Sven Mintslat.
6.) 01 Dec 2022 21:56:55
And where was arsenal in the pecking order in the league when he signed them players .
When Liverpool where nowhere near who did we sign . Surely that has to be a factor . No champions league your not signing the best players simple.
10 Jan 2022 13:58:44
Afternoon Eds, and happy new year to you all.
How genuine is this reported interest of Newcastle in signing Origi in January?
Reports today that they want to have a striker signed and registered ready to play against Watford at the weekend. This seems quite ambitious.
If he were to leave do you think the club would/ should replace him in January/ from
within the club/ wait until the summer?
{Ed002's Note - I don't think Origi will be moving this month.}
1.) 10 Jan 2022 15:08:09
I really hope they do sign him.
2.) 10 Jan 2022 20:25:52
I hope they don’t, would leave us up sh*t creek without a paddle as we’re already missing Salah and Mane.
3.) 10 Jan 2022 21:47:09
So you’d rather lose him in the summer for free when we don’t have the funds to buy a packet of walkers crisps?
Plus he’s rubbish.
4.) 10 Jan 2022 21:56:08
If someone was set to arrive then yes, but if not no we can’t afford to lose him at present.
5.) 10 Jan 2022 22:41:55
He's rubbish, but he scored a goal in the Champions League final.
6.) 11 Jan 2022 00:00:57
And 2 in the semi and most recent winner against a stubborn wolves but yeh I see your point rubbish he can’t get a game when he does you all expect him to be fowler/ rush . Think I need to stay away a bit longer.
7.) 11 Jan 2022 08:34:19
If a decent enough offer came in, I'm sure we'd let him go. His wages are way too high for someone who doesn't play regularly.
8.) 11 Jan 2022 10:10:03
He’s far more valuable in the squad than he is for the few million we’d get for him now. A few million quid now is meaningless if we then lose the next two league games and lose further ground on City, it is extremely unlikely that we’d bring anyone in replace him if we left. If he goes for a free in the summer then it’s fine, he’s done his bit for the club, I wish him all the best and he can leave with his head held high as both a premier league and champions league winner.
9.) 11 Jan 2022 11:14:38
I would agree VVVV.
10.) 11 Jan 2022 11:47:29
Spot on V4. Hugely underrated squad player. Has played his role brilliantly in the years he has been here and respite very little playing time and not fitting the system he always seems to find the net. I for one will be gutted when he goes. Let’s hope Minamino can be as useful off the bench and as backup.
11.) 11 Jan 2022 16:08:37
Let's be clear on this - origi is not rubbish. He is nowhere near the calibur of the players that start ahead of him but he's as good as most if not all of the bottom half teams strikers. I cannot think of a sinlge players of his ability that would be happy with the sort of game time he gets and, where he to leave, I hope the club will be thinking very carefully about why they would rather he goes. If the plan is to add a forward to the roster who is closer to top level and can rotate with out fully fit front 4 more then great, love the plan. If it is to replace him with someone else who plays some cup games and late sub appearance, we will almost certainly be downgrading the squad by loosing him.
12.) 11 Jan 2022 19:07:54
Looks like Newcastle are signing Chris Wood and a young French lad so I would imagine Origi is a nine starter.
13.) 11 Jan 2022 23:36:58
I agree with most Origi is a great squad player but I do think he deserves a chance at a club where he’ll play every week. See if he can go another level.
14.) 12 Jan 2022 00:16:29
@Hjikle - spot on with your assessment, couldn’t agree more.
15.) 12 Jan 2022 06:42:34
Origi’s goal was fantastic against wolves the other month and that moment was the shining light in what hadn’t been a great performance from the team. That could have been the kickstart moment he needed for
the season but unfortunately for him he hasn’t been seen since with an injury.
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02 Dec 2024 16:19:09
With the way we are playing at the moment, I don’t see any other team posing the biggest threat to our title challenge.
I actually think the biggest threat is ourselves.
The constant chatter about contracts before, during and after games is overwhelming.
I feel for Slot because he’s doing his side and saying all the right things. However this will soon reach a point where either the players re-sign or they sign for another club.
If all 3 players pen deals at other clubs in January (including our captain, and our top scorer) I think this is the biggest threat to our title challenge.
I know we’re discussed contracts to death on here already but the way we are playing I don’t see any other team being as much or a threat as our own management team which is equally frustrating and disappointing.
1.) 02 Dec 2024 16:36:54
If they sign a pre contract all three of them, then their motivation drops off. I don’t think we will ever replace a player like VVD. The most complete center back I have ever seen in the last 20 plus years. People are still scared to go to his side. Can’t believe the hasn’t been offered an extension. The posters here are drooling things are happening behind the scenes, what scenes I don’t know. VVD more than one occasion has said he has no contract on the table.
2.) 02 Dec 2024 17:04:52
I agree that Slot has had to front up and face these contract questions from the press while those responsible for the negotiations enjoy their anonymity in the shadows. That would perhaps be understandable if Slot was the manager, but no, he's the head coach.
Edwards and his team are doing a great job of beginning a villain arc.
3.) 02 Dec 2024 17:24:20
What’s a ‘villain arc’? General question - why does the club conducting business, in this case contract negotiations, in private and with discretion, lead to people becoming stressed or angry? One final question - why does people start from a position of assuming that the players all, want to stay at Liverpool and the club are just choosing to gnome their wishes, seemingly to stress and anger the fans? Just because we are not privy to what’s going on doesn’t m an that things aren’t actually going on.
4.) 02 Dec 2024 18:19:12
I would rather they turned down a rubbish deal than simply not offer them one at all.
There’s simply nobody in the premier league playing better than Salah or VVD right now.
5.) 02 Dec 2024 18:29:59
The only people who seem affected by these contracts are the neurotic fans on here.
The team are doing just fine regardless.
{Ed001's Note - so far, but distractions are always an issue over time.}
6.) 02 Dec 2024 19:17:52
None of us are aware of the extent and status of contract negotiations. Who knows what "not in front of me" or not on the table" means - it could mean that no contract has been presented that meets all my demands or it may not mean that - negotiations may have been going on for some months between the club and the players representatives - or they may not. Chill guys and enjoy the ride.
7.) 02 Dec 2024 19:22:43
Hi eds1.
Just out of interest could you put in order most important of the 3 player that we should get to sign a new contract please.
{Ed001's Note - I am not sure you can put an order of importance to them.}
8.) 02 Dec 2024 19:26:50
Regardless of what’s going on behind closed doors WDW, the bottom line is you don’t allow three of your top players to enter the final, final, final stages of a contract where they can sign for other clubs. It should have been resolved in the summer and the fact you’re prone to defending the ineptitude at the top makes fans like you part of the problem. Call it for what it is… rubbish from the club.
9.) 02 Dec 2024 19:30:33
Arsenal is looking strong as well when Odengard is back. If we win at Anfield against Arsenal, we stand a good chance. I am just worried about dip that is coming, i don't think we can keep it up til end of season on all fronts.
10.) 02 Dec 2024 20:25:37
Salah looks like the best player in the world right now and has well and truly made me eat my words, long may it continue. Virgil is back to being the best. Miss either of them and we are not top of the league and I am not sure we will find like for like replacements.
We already have Trents replacement if he goesz so that dictates the order of importance for me. Hope they all stay though.
11.) 02 Dec 2024 21:23:31
In terms of a distraction to the team, it will only really become a distraction if Trent, VVD or Mo start to become distracted and then that filters to the team. That is obviously a function of how the negotiations so understand it's all connected.
In saying that, I feel like there may be an element of Last Dance about the contracts. for all 3, even Trent at his age, they are almost the signal of the ending of an era having won everything for the club. My overall feeling is that if it ended up that any of them were to leave, that the team would approach it in that Last Dance kinda way.
Now, at the end of the day the table won't lie at the end of the season. We will have a tricky period where things aren't going our way. the key for any title winner is how well you manage those periods. We haven't really hit ours yet I don't think so be interesting to see how we handle adversity if it comes. We may very well end up having a season similar to Xabi's first year last year and then adversity comes the following year.
12.) 02 Dec 2024 21:41:05
@Frode, over the past two or three years there have been times when people on this board have wanted rid of VVD and Mo out of the door for loss of form, wanting more money or for believing that the players wanted to play for someone else. To a lesser extent there is a groundswell of opinion that thinks Trent should be off if he wants to play for RM and chase the Balon D’Or.
This months ‘top’ player might be an old has been in 2 or 3 months time …
Your assumptions as to what is (or from your perspective isn’t) going on are simply that - assumptions - and from there you have made a massive leap to apportioning blame without having any actual knowledge of what’s going on.
It did make me laugh though that as a fan of the club I am part of ‘the problem’ - do you think I’m negotiating for the club or for the players or their agents.
13.) 03 Dec 2024 00:23:48
It should’ve been resolved in the summer ?. Like the club are just sitting there saying ‘nah we’ll do it in December, let’s go and play golf whilst the sun is shining’.
It’s a negotiation.
The players think if they let it run on as long as they can then the club will panic and bow to their demands.
The club knows the players want to stay so they think that they will cave and reduce their demands.
Let’s see who blinks first.
Of course there’s always a possibility that the players can call the club’s bluff and sign for someone else. That will either force the club’s hand or they’ll let them go.
Either way we don’t know jack about any of it so the silly blaming and name calling is pointless.
Honestly it’s like some of you can’t complain about the team’s performance so you just find something else to criticise the club for instead.
Let’s just support the team, this could be an amazing season for us. The contract situations will all be clear in time.
14.) 03 Dec 2024 08:33:04
So nobody knows jack about what’s going on at the club and yet you say things are happening behind the scenes and it’s called Negotiations @Becker? You are speculating as much as the other guy.
Engaging with you is as pointless as Lukaku trying to control the ball. Good day.
15.) 03 Dec 2024 09:53:33
It's pretty obvious to most that there's negotiations going on "behind the scenes".
Poor Harry throwing a strop because the club thoughtlessly sought not to notify him personally that negotiations are going on.
BP is on the money.
16.) 03 Dec 2024 10:07:05
@MJJ, I think it’s fair to say that the club knows what is and isn’t going on. On the subject of contracts didn’t the club renew Konate and Quansah and didn’t they only speak about it after the contracts had been signed. Like I say, just because we don’t know what’s going on doesn’t mean that things aren’t happening.
17.) 03 Dec 2024 10:13:20
Mango, BP isn't speculating he is just aware of business and the way that things in business work.
Each player has spoken to the fact their agents have been in talks with the club. Those talks just haven't progressed to the stage of submitting an offer onto paper and put in front of the players and their representatives.
During the talks their agents are looking for a big payday and looking after the best interests of their client.
Meantime, the club are looking after it's finances and what it can do responsibly to meet the ever growing rules of profit and sustainability rulings. After all it has been mentioned on this page quite often that Ward and Edwards made mistakes in contract lengths and payments for aging players the first time around, maybe they have learnt from their mistakes.
Somewhere in the middle of both their is either a deal to be done or not.
leaving it to last chance saloon gives the players and agents more power as they are hoping the club will bow out and fall on their swords.
VVD and TAA agents are likely looking at the Salah deal and thinking, see what he is offered first and we can then judge what the club perceive a fair rate for it's top players. Giving them a ball park figure to suggest, well that's how you value Mo, so why shouldn't my client be offered similar.
That is of course if they all want to stay at all.
18.) 03 Dec 2024 10:27:23
The club has released many players in the past. Didn’t they @Wdw? Beckers on what authority is shutting other posters off may I know? He has zero facts / stats on what’s happening behind the scenes. In our defense we have the interviews of the players that there are no contract on their table. Yet he say they are all lying and somehow he is the trustable source.
@Flash you are a classic one liner and I can see not even one person is engaging with you on any meaningful debate on this forum for ages.
19.) 03 Dec 2024 10:34:42
Meantime, the club are looking after it's finances and what it can do responsibly to meet the ever growing rules of profit and sustainability rulings
Cheslea, City, United and Arsenal says Hai. Do you wish return the gesture?
20.) 03 Dec 2024 18:25:06
You seem very angry, Mango for a supporter of a team in a position such as Liverpools right now.
ABL right?
21.) 04 Dec 2024 13:07:57
@Semi, was going to say the exact same thing. Starting to seem like this Mango guy is Harry's lil' cousin.
25 Nov 2024 17:58:16
Cunha has hit some fantastic fork for wolves this year.
Always thought he looked a good player, but could never seem to convert that into goals.
Question to others and eds on here, do you think he could step up into a top four side? And would you want Liverpool to be interested in him?
Personally I think a player of his style (similar to Bobby) would be a better fit than someone like Nunez to link the play.
{Ed001's Note - I was just saying to Ed77 how much I like him. He is easily good enough to step up imo.}
1.) 25 Nov 2024 18:46:31
He has always looked a class act when I have seen him play. just couldn't finish his dinner! If he has improved his finishing/ composure he would be a brilliant signing for us.
2.) 25 Nov 2024 19:56:32
Ed 1 likes him, that's put the Mockers on us signing him so! ?.
3.) 25 Nov 2024 21:00:10
His link up play and vision is top drawer he looks to be adding a bit more aggression in to his game like he’s fully up to speed with the league now and he’s looking very good.
4.) 26 Nov 2024 07:35:51
Cunha is class. Even last year when he wasn't scoring you could see he was a bit special. This year he's stepped up in front of goal and looks ready for a big team. He could be the bobby like player for us we've been missing since he left as he's very similar in style. Jota does seem to be injured a lot so it might be time to start thinking about his replacement.
18 Nov 2024 09:27:21
Very sad to hear the passing of Ed002.
It’s surreal to feel sad about someone passing that I have never met, and don’t even know what they look like.
Maybe that’s the best measure of the impact he had on these pages?
A great character, a fountain of football knowledge and incredibly generous with his time.
Receiving an Ed002 quip/ comeback with both barrels was a right of passage on these pages for posters. The site won’t be the same without him.
I will be raising a gin and tonic in your memory this evening Ed002 - thanks for everything.
1.) 18 Nov 2024 12:50:17
My deepest and sincere condolences to those that loved him. I am saddened to hear of his passing.
I enjoyed the knowledge he passed and hope is life can be celebrated by those he loved.
25 Oct 2024 22:18:46
@scousejohn “I get laughed at when I say macca is crap. Me mates think I’m a dope. ”
That’s because mac alister is not crap. And if you think he’s crap than you are a dope.
He rolls around the pitch a bit (like lots of Argentinian players do) but you cannot call him crap.
1.) 25 Oct 2024 22:26:33
I think it's all about systems as well.
Our best midfielder last season (Mac) hasn't quite got going this season and our worst midfielder (Grav) is this seasons best one. Who would have bet that happening.
Last seasons surprise package midfielder (Endo) doesn't get a look in because of the system.
I'd agree that Szob is a bigger worry because he has yet to be consistent in either system.
Hopefully all the players excel under Slot.
2.) 25 Oct 2024 22:40:18
Call him what I like Keith, crap.
3.) 25 Oct 2024 23:06:52
That's a pretty short list of players that played a winning part in a World Cup final that happen to be crap.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 23:41:47
I don't always agree with scouse john but he can say that about Mac, if that's how he feels. The same as posters can tell us how good he is.
It's a forum and we come here to exchange views and maybe poke fun at those with different ones. I think at times we get more defensive about our own opinions than we do our team and players though.
It is ok to disagree with each other, Redmen.
5.) 26 Oct 2024 01:01:18
I think endo will do enough in training to get more games as the season goes on. Just a feeling.
6.) 26 Oct 2024 06:59:13
Mac has started season slowly but he did last season as well. I think mac excellent player and I thought he had a very good game against leipzig. He is bit slow paced which can lead to problems defensively but he's been virtually ever present this season and we've best defensive record in league so he can't be that bad. In saying that I would like to see him played where szobo plays, his passing/ final ball would be v useful there.
7.) 26 Oct 2024 07:59:24
Dom S has been integral to the side this season, but there is no hollywood football on show from him, he is sacrificing his flair for graft, as instructed, and there is a reason he plays most games.
8.) 26 Oct 2024 08:13:19
@Vango Dom is the Nobby Stiles of his generation ?.
{Ed025's Note - or the new Tom Davies.. :)
9.) 26 Oct 2024 08:19:49
Mac does get clattered into a LOT. I doubt most of it is play acting. He maybe at times makes sure the ref knows but just watch how he gets at least one really bad foul against him every match. They do hurt, even if it looks like they shouldn't. When I used to play I've seen players have bones broke for challenges that looked pretty innocuous.
{Ed025's Note - or it could be that he is just a big fart or even a serial cheat Kopite?, my guess would be...both mate..
10.) 26 Oct 2024 08:24:39
I think szobos becoming the new Gini. Goes under the radar how much work he does for the team. Not saying his creative output couldn't be better but he's probably the player who has the most responsibility in terms of getting up and down the pitch and that no doubt has an affects on his composure because he's putting a shift in at both ends of the pitch.
11.) 26 Oct 2024 08:30:59
But you would say that 25 ha I watch every game mate an said to my mates about how he gets badly clattered at least once a match. Its the nature of the position, he's getting the ball in tight spaces in the middle of the park. Just watch next time were on an he gets smashed by someone who thinks they can get the ball off him or smash him because they're frustrated they can't.
{Ed025's Note - im afraid im from a different generation Kopite, i grew up with the likes of Norman Hunter, Souness, etc who took no prisoners mate, i know the game has changed a bit but most of them are big tarts nowadays, they actually get coached to cheat to gain advantage now and go down like they have been shot even when a challenge is innocuous, i watch the games as well and although i think Macca is talented he is such a big wuss that i cant take him seriously..
12.) 26 Oct 2024 08:55:33
I think there is the truth in both statements. Macca does get clattered into a lot but he also makes the most of each contact. I personally would prefer for him to not exaggerate the contact as much and just get on with the play.
{Ed025's Note - its in his DNA Drac..
13.) 26 Oct 2024 09:04:13
Just to clarify I’m not overly concerned about Szob either.
I think tactically we are playing a different brand to last season and it’s going to take players different time to adapt etc.
Szob out of possession has been a beast. Nunez had accolades last week for making 7 tackles and Szobs defensive work is great every week.
Would love to see him get a couple of goals and assists to boost him.
{Ed025's Note - you see thats where we differ JK, if a player is playing crap i say he is playing crap and dont make excuses for them mate..its an honesty thing with me..
14.) 26 Oct 2024 09:09:23
How many careers did those players and those bad challenges end though? We can talk about the good old days but it can still be painful to get clattered into. Not saying players don't make the most of it but Mac is on the recieving end of some bad ones that will hurt. Its the players who act like the spurs players v kudus the other day or the ones that do 12 rolls on the floor when they go down that wind me up, Mac doesn't act like that.
{Ed025's Note - im afraid he does Kopite, you might not want to admit it but im afraid he does mate..
15.) 26 Oct 2024 09:12:36
If you don't exaggerate a bit though drac, then the ref doesn't give it. Refs are so poor they can't get it right a lot of the even with the assistance of video with 94 angles of an incident.
{Ed025's Note - so you admit that hes a cheat then?..
16.) 26 Oct 2024 09:19:37
So you don't take into account how much work a player has put in for the team to give leeway for creative output 25? If Szobo was allowed to just stand around up top near the striker he would no doubt have better attacking number but he puts a shift in at both ends an has been important in terms of filling gaps defensively pressing the ball to force the other team into mistakes. there's a reason slot picks him and a reason we're top of the league with him playing every match.
{Ed025's Note - im not saying hes not a grafter Kopite but hes certainly not doing the things he was when he first came mate, yes he runs around a lot but for me its "busy doing nothing" and i think hes better than that, no composure and shooting like hes wearing 2 left boots suggests to me that hes not comfortable in the role he has been asked to perform mate, i could be wrong...but that would be a first.. :)
17.) 26 Oct 2024 09:23:20
He doesn't do pirouettes on the floor though 25 and its not cheating to make sure the ref knows youve been fouled, if you have actually been fouled.
{Ed025's Note - he does though mate, you all moan when the likes of Kane, Grealish and Richarlison do it Kopite..."people who live in glass houses"and all that..
18.) 26 Oct 2024 09:32:43
Ed0025 that’s fair enough mate.
Personally I don’t think it’s possible for a team to be at the top of the league at this level with a crap player playing week in week out.
Some of the players aren’t playing to their maximum potential but they certainly aren’t crap and that goes for the other PL teams players who are playing week in week out at City, Arsenal and Villa.
Forest are the exception where it could be said that their players are currently playing at their maximum potential or even over performing.
I won’t even get into the diving debate as it frustrates me so much and it’s players at every club doing it.
I played a local derby last weekend in a game that can be quite spicy and one of the opposition players did the worst dive ever and was then told by his own players to get up and stop being embarrassing (I’ve removed the swearing ?) Thought this grown bloke was going to cry. Brilliantly his manager then actually subbed him off.
{Ed025's Note - yeah JK maybe "crap" was the wrong term but you know what i mean, not playing as well as he could possibly..
19.) 26 Oct 2024 09:40:28
I think ed25 the way the game has gone if u feel contact u have to make the most of it to ensure u get free kick, because the opposition will. I don't like that but it too far gone at this stage to not do it imo. This thing of falling to ground holding your head r faking injury turns my stomach and var should be getting involved when it clear nothing has happened.
But if I managing a team and my striker goes by a defender who catches him, I'm telling my striker to go down . Not a statement that I proud of but it truth.
{Ed025's Note - i just dont like cheating Digger in any form, you seem to be condoning it mate and thats half of the problem..
20.) 26 Oct 2024 10:15:17
If I'm shown a video of Mac doing 3 or 4 rolls along the floor once he's been fouled I will stand corrected but I cannot recall him doing that. On szobo, people including our own fans used to say the same about Gini an when he wasn't in the team it was noticed how much we missed him. Not even saying Szobo couldn't contribute more in attack but I do give leeway considering how much he helps in other areas. I'm looking forward to seeing Elliott in that position when he's back as I think he'll help in games like the forest one when we need that cuteness to break a team down. Whatever we're doing is working at the moment though as we've won every game apart from one under slot so I'm not going to be too harsh on any of the players, they've all played their part.
{Ed025's Note - you are doing very well Kopite no doubt about that, but you always have to look to improve mate otherwise things can go stale very quickly, perspective is the name of the game and like with Gini people only remember the good games but forget that for 50% of the time he contributed very little, but its ok to wear those red tinted glasses occasionally..
21.) 26 Oct 2024 10:33:20
Its easy to overlook what players like gini did in terms of coverning for robbo to allow him to go forward. Many times things like this stop teams even attenptimg to attack the space he's covering but how can that be measured? If he's quietly going about his business and it results in a positive outcome for the team without showing in any statistical figures them I'm happy with that if that's what the manager is asking and can see on the pitch.
22.) 26 Oct 2024 10:21:18
Its not cheating though 25, if the player stays on their feet but stumbles stopping them from getting to the ball or getting a shot away its a foul and the ref should give it but they don't unfortunately so the player needs to go down. It is s**t but to single a player out who does take a fair few whacks per game us unfair. You have 7 foot centre backs who go down from the slightest touch on the back an it gets given so someone getting it from all angles in midfield shouldn't get that much schtick.
{Ed025's Note - when you say its not cheating Kopite...it really IS, yes its a physical sport but if you are not up to it then try synchronized swimming, hes not the only one of course but hes right up there with the best, its a shame really because he is a very good footballer mate, my advice to him would be...man up you little pussy and stop acting like a 10 year old girl, if someone whacks you you whack them back not roll over crying into your gymslip..
23.) 26 Oct 2024 10:32:40
The fact that a number of fans have pointed out that Macca ‘makes sure that the ref sees’ is enough to show that it’s a problem. If players at other clubs are accused of diving / cheating then the same standards should be applied to our players. Oddly, given he supports Everton, Ed25 is right. ?.
{Ed025's Note - im always right WDW.. :)
24.) 26 Oct 2024 11:30:08
I'm not saying Mac does it any more than any other player WDW, its just the focus is on Mac so I'm saying its unfair to single him out. I actually think he gets a good whack more than anyone in our team in most games. I've only noticed people saying it about Mac since that Argentina game where the whole team where at it apparently but I didn't watch it so I'm just going by what I've seen said about it.
If you give someone a whack back 25, that's the foul that the ref picks up on and gives a card for so you can't do that nowadays.
25.) 26 Oct 2024 11:37:09
I have never been overly impressed with Konate and Diaz. Yet under Slot, they’ve easily been 2 of our best players! ?.
26.) 26 Oct 2024 11:42:09
Mac Allister is a tidy little footballer with a good footballing brain, not got the greatest pace but that hasn't stopped plenty before him being good midfielders.
He does stop, drop and roll like he’s on fire an awful lot though. Not many players out there that don't anymore, sadly.
27.) 26 Oct 2024 11:50:09
Regarding Mac Alister - good player - not sure he's totally suited to the formation / tactics - has not got the pace or defensive awareness to play the deep role, nor the pace for the attacking pressing midfielder and can be by-passed in both positions far too easily.
Regarding Szoboszlai - does have the pace and all the attributes for the high pressing midfielder - we just need to see him hit some form, needs to contribute with more assists/ goals - seems to always pass the responsibility to someone else. does a lot of running around without much end product.
28.) 26 Oct 2024 12:03:49
Maybe Mac should get out of the way more or move the ball quicker.
Szob does work hard and so he should. Given his position and the type of player he is, it's the least we should expect. He doesn't have Nobby Stiles' good looks either but I'll let that go.
29.) 26 Oct 2024 11:40:26
And you're not always right 25, you said Grav was a terrible player so that's at least one thing you've been wrong about ?.
{Ed025's Note - i was actually right at the time Kopite...he was awful at the time of publication you must agree, now he is doing well so i will say hes a very good player because things change in football mate...which makes me spot on again.. :)
30.) 26 Oct 2024 12:34:03
I do wonder if Szobos form in front of goal is to do with him second guessing himself as to when to shoot due to us wanting to work the ball closer to goal. We know he can score a banger but he's maybe been told not to shoot if a pass is on or from outside the box resulting in him passing up the opportunity to shoot or takinng a bit too long to decide what to do resulting in the opportunity passing.
31.) 26 Oct 2024 12:57:03
Macca possibly playing crap does not mean he is a crap player. Sorry, that's not a thing, IMO. Maybe he is having a slow start to the season or the system is exposing his defensive side of his game that may need some work. But to say he is a crap player? Sorry, that's just some OTT stuff I will not agree with.
32.) 26 Oct 2024 13:36:38
When we signed the captain of Hungary, I wasn't expecting him to be told when to shoot and when not to shoot. Surely it's a natural thing. Remembering him on the edge of United's six yard box and not getting a shot away, that can't be down to anyone else.
33.) 26 Oct 2024 14:43:27
Thats a glaring one rigsby but there's been times it opens up for him an he tries a pass that doesn't come off instead of hitting it. Players are told not to shoot from outside the box nowadays, its all about percentages, which is sad cos we all like seeing a screamer go in. The united one nay have been a combination of being told not to shoot from distance, look for a pass to someone in a better position and losing confidence in front if goal because of second guessing himself. I personally think players should shoot if it opens up because even if it doesn't go in it males the defender second fuess what the player will do snd can open up space for a pass when they're closed down.
34.) 26 Oct 2024 15:16:06
It’s interesting really, I think Klopp was a lot of heart, determination and passion, but not ruthless enough. I think Slot is much more of a thinker and more ruthless. He will make changes and doesn’t look like he has favourites who keep playing despite delivering little. I think Klopp’s weaknesses held us back in the latter years of his time with us, too loyal and didn’t refresh the real quick enough.
35.) 26 Oct 2024 17:51:10
Going off at another tangent, we have TAA, Dom and Macca possibly playing in positions they aren’t best suited in, just imagine if they all did, we would likely be top of the PL ?.
36.) 26 Oct 2024 18:32:47
If Slot tells Joe Gomez not to shoot from outside of the box, I could understand. But do people really think that he's telling the captain of Hungary to stop shooting from outside the box and 'get his numbers up'? Numbers in terms of goals, that is. Are we just looking for excuses for Szob just not playing well and in doing so making the manager look like a fool?
If Slot or Klopp told Salah to stop shooting, he'd tell them where to go ?.
37.) 26 Oct 2024 20:38:29
They do though rigsby, that's why we see less and less bangers every season. Its all about working the ball into the box. Might not have anything to do with why szobo hasn't scored the chsnces he's had or took the opportunities he's had to shoot like but just a thought because he's never previously been shy of shooting from distance.
38.) 26 Oct 2024 16:05:38
Ed 025, I don’t like it when you insult 10 year old girls. My daughter, who isn’t even 3, when she falls, she just gets up and gets on with her stuff. A lot of football players could take an example to that.
{Ed025's Note - it cracks me up baker, they will be playing in tutu,s next you mark my word mate.. :)
39.) 27 Oct 2024 05:09:11
Ed25 it's not cheating, if it were the referees would issue more yellow cards. In today's game chopping someone down like sounness is cheating, which is why it gets a red card.
You might not like the way the game is but it's not accurate to say it's cheating.
{Ed025's Note - it is cheating Nevada, simulation and trying to gain advantage by exaggeration is cheating in my book mate, its cheating the ref, your opponents and the general public and the punishment should be stronger imo..
40.) 27 Oct 2024 06:01:45
You've said before that big hand Pickford is at same level or better than as Alisson Ed25. So clearly you're not always right.
{Ed025's Note - sometimes i say things tongue in cheek mfahmee to get a response, and its up to you to decide if im serious or not mate...but i am pretty perfect.. :)
41.) 27 Oct 2024 12:31:31
Synchronised swimming is a physically demanding sport.
42.) 27 Oct 2024 16:27:21
Sobz looks like he’s got the “ yips” regards shooting. Seems to have lost confidence. Everything else about his game has been very good.
43.) 27 Oct 2024 21:47:27
Ed025, you are greatly under appreciated by those with literal minds ?.
26 Aug 2024 08:08:00
2-0 win. 2 wins from 2. 2 clean sheets in 2 games.
You’d think posters on here would be happy?
Not a chance!
Instead all I’m seeing is posts trying to focus on negatives, and make problems where there aren’t any. Some people just love to be miserable!
1.) 26 Aug 2024 08:31:35
Navy it’s been a great start hasn’t it.
I thought we looked far more compact as a unit as well yesterday and can’t really remember Brentford opening us up down the middle at all.
Their only threat was set pieces and breaks from our set pieces.
Really excited for CL draw on Thursday and then Utd on Sunday.
Why do Utd always seem to lose their game before playing us.
2.) 26 Aug 2024 08:33:03
Well, yes. No shiny new toys in sight. The same team that finished 3rd last year is doomed to finish the same or worse this year (it may or it may not, but most have crystal balls that confirm it will) . Somehow the negative narrative is easier to hold on to.
3.) 26 Aug 2024 08:45:29
I’m with you Keith mate I’m thrilled with the start let’s hope it continues. We look like we are only in 1st gear aswell which I love like this team has got levels to hit and we are just on simmer.
4.) 26 Aug 2024 09:09:49
No injuries on the pitch so far. Definitely a sparkling start for Slot. If we beat Seven Hag’s circus this weekend we have every reason to be optimistic this season.
5.) 26 Aug 2024 09:10:43
It's a good start, but its a long season! and we have played some of the weaker teams so far. Which is probably very good for us as it gives us more time to train
Some good passages of play in the second half, but yeah let's not get carried away yet.
6.) 26 Aug 2024 09:20:15
Completely agree. Last season we also probably would have won those games but it's almost certain that we would have conceded first. 2 wins (and fairly decent ones at that, bar the shaky first half against Ipswich) and 2 clean sheets. Some people will just never be pleased.
7.) 26 Aug 2024 09:35:17
You can only beat the team in front of you. We are 1 of 4 teams with 100% records. Out of those four only us and Arsenal have yet to concede a goal.
Great start.
Ipswich were a potential banana skin, a tough first game according to the media beforehand. After the game their mantra became “it’s only Ipswich”.
Yesterday the talk had become “Slot’s first game in charge at Anfield” and Brentford are no mugs. Notorious for being so physical in the challenge and then going down like they’ve been shot by a sniper when we go in hard. And we walked it.
We go again against Utd on Sunday. The media will always try and talk our chances down and long may it continue. Sky Sports thrive on transfers and deadline day. We have yet to provide them with any fuel for their fire this window.
8.) 26 Aug 2024 10:15:07
Not that you'd ever hear him say as such, but I reckon Slot is quietly absolutely ecstatic with the start we've made.
As others have said, Ipswich was a banana skin. Even before the game, I didn't think we'd lose (statistically, we rarely do), but the media had 1-1 headlines at their fingertips all week. City only beat them by an additional goal, and they were at home.
Brentford is a game to be endured rather than enjoyed. Liverpool were good yesterday, Brentford not. That said, with better finishing we'd have won that 4-0.
Good teams win 2-0. If only we could do the same this weekend.
9.) 26 Aug 2024 10:45:40
No complaints at the match, I guess an early goal helps.
This is one of the toughest times for the squad, new manager, new way of playing, new way of training and many players are not long back from the international tournaments.
These games, against lower rated teams, ‘should’ be straight forward but that brings extra pressure to perform.
It’s a new era, 2 wins and 2 clean sheets and no harem-scarem scrapping around for a win. The games were secured in good time.
Pressure is now off going into the Manc game, I’d take a clean sheet right now. Either way I’d be satisfied with a point.
10.) 26 Aug 2024 11:33:35
Cannot complain at all, 2 from 2, full week as a squad to train for Mancs, grow the understanding further of what’s required etc.
Is the fact the 2 nd halves of both matches we have been somewhat more expansive than first halves, down to new tactics or instruction?
Or is this our new way, tighter in 1st half go expansive 2nd?
Or is it more down to lack of full squad training as a whole cos of summer tournaments?
Hope make sense the above.
11.) 26 Aug 2024 11:33:49
2 wins out of two. 2 clean sheets and improved performance from the last win? What's not to like. Let's enjoy it for what it is as it is a very good time right now. Onto Utd.
12.) 26 Aug 2024 11:37:16
Well said Navy Keith! Couldn't agree more. Hopefully this week will bring more positivity with a couple of signings and maybe even a couple of new contracts!
13.) 26 Aug 2024 12:45:21
Kew we seem to be moving the ball very quickly from left to right and Back to front.
Whilst we doing this the opposition are chasing the ball.
Perhaps both opposition have tired second half.
14.) 26 Aug 2024 13:13:41
Instant gratification. If we don't win 6-0 against everyone it's a failure and we're trash.
We've started well and we'll improve further as the season goes on.
15.) 26 Aug 2024 17:28:13
Lamborini makes a very good point about us conceding first in these kind of games last season.
It'll be interesting to see if we eventually revert to that or if Slot has picked up on something and has changed things accordingly.
Early days yet but the signs are very encouraging. Especially the 2nd halves when the opposition start to tire.
Some poor opposition will get a walloping sooner or later when those chances start to go in.
The United game is a fascinating prospect, 2 Dutch slapheads at the helm.
16.) 26 Aug 2024 17:49:09
I’ll take 2-0 wins all season long.
17.) 26 Aug 2024 18:21:31
Ya think, Mikey?
25 Nov 2024 13:34:00
Replace a Lamborghini with a VW golf and you’ll get what you pay for.
Salah is a top asset and therefore commands a salary befitting of that status.
If we don’t pay it him, others will (PSG, Barca) .
23 Nov 2024 13:46:25
Sounds like a great deal for us if TAA won’t sign… don’t see why Madrid would do it.
15 Nov 2024 17:09:38
How can he be homesick before he signed?
07 Nov 2024 17:57:52
Macca is quality but in a bad spell of form.
Form is temporary and the coaches will get him through it and back playing at a high level.
All of the players will go through periods of bad form, that's we have a strong squad to rotate and keep players on their toes, improving and striving to play better.
Should not be considering selling players just because they are in a bad spell of form.
04 Nov 2024 21:29:25
I hope that was tongue in cheek Florian? (Can’t always tell on here! )
If so, spot on!
Mane, VVD and Robertson were phenomenal buys from lower prem teams.
28 Nov 2024 12:04:33
I don’t have an issue with Jude waiting for Trent’s shirt outside of the dressing room when the game is over.
He’s a respectful guy.
Ryan Grav played well last night, although not his best performance this season imo. He was waking a fine line in the first half with the ref after picking up a silly yellow for dissent. Second half he was much better.
25 Nov 2024 17:54:17
We’re 8 points clear. I’m not worried about Chiesa whatsoever.
09 Nov 2024 16:03:46
They happen occasionally ed001 and salah.
I think from memory, we actually played villa at this later time a few season ago… they beat us 7-2. A painful memory!
09 Nov 2024 15:59:08
Out of form but still quality.
He will get back to form.
Some fans want him sold. I don’t you look to sell a player after 10 league games playing below his level.
Stick with players and let the coaches work with them to get them going again.
Ryan Gravenberch should be a lesson to all of us on how a player can turn it around and prove people wrong.
You don’t go from a good player to a bad player overnight. These are human beings, not robots. They will have good spells and bad spells.
08 Nov 2024 07:47:14
Thanks MK - great summary of the season so far under the new regime.
Cannot argue with the 3 (I will call them) more disappointing areas. But really the jury is out on all 3 and would we be surprised if JQ wins his place back at some point and AR gets back to some form? As for Chiesa, he doesn’t have the history of playing well for Liverpool already for us to fall back on, but more than anything I am hopeful that he will come good.
I have never been more wrong about Gravenburch and I am so happy to see him doing well.
The truth is, I just didn’t think he had it in him to play the way he is now. Humble pie.