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11 Jan 2025 17:13:16
Kvaratskhelia has handed in a transfer request and wants to leave napoli immediately, conte just confirmed this in his press conference. Let's see what happens folks.
1.) 11 Jan 2025 17:23:51
It won’t be Liverpool so sit back and enjoy.
2.) 11 Jan 2025 17:31:25
He’s going to psg.
3.) 11 Jan 2025 17:32:17
I've only just learned how to spell Szoboszlai.
4.) 11 Jan 2025 17:35:18
If only Ed002 was here to say “this not involve Liverpool”.
5.) 11 Jan 2025 17:43:38
Personal terms agreed with PSG. Really not sure why Orsntein linked us with him yesterday. He is a FSG guy. Weird one if we don't go in for him tonight.
6.) 11 Jan 2025 18:34:20
We won’t be making an offer for him. He’ll join psg and be stat padding against some French sheep farmers next week.
7.) 11 Jan 2025 18:48:07
Who really fell for this nonsense? We aren’t getting players of that status anymore.
8.) 11 Jan 2025 19:26:32
“That status”? You mean players who play in a position in which we are already stacked and whose stats are nowhere near as good as the options we already have?
I love how clickbait not being accurate is somehow a failure of the clubs owners.
9.) 11 Jan 2025 20:04:00
@Magico, I’ll bet you MO’s agent, and by inference VVD’s and TAA’s agents, got the message that was sent.
10.) 11 Jan 2025 20:05:28
If you think he isn't better than gakpo, Diaz, jota nunez in that position your crazy shipley. Status might of been the wrong word but he's definitely a big upgrade on those. And I love Diaz to bits but I'd swap him instantly.
11.) 11 Jan 2025 22:57:06
Definitely an upgrade no question about it. Would have been great signing but doesn’t seem to be happening unless we bid soon and even then upto him.
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22 Feb 2025 17:02:03
Arsenal won't drop points, they're so much more convincing than we are.
1.) 22 Feb 2025 17:20:01
Like a boxer when they know they've been beaten, hopefully Arsenal just stay down now and just try and consolidate 2nd place. No need to rush any players back from injury.
2.) 22 Feb 2025 17:49:48
Arsenal played Merino against the might Wout Faes vs LC and thought he was the solution and their team looked more convincing. Vs Wout Faes, of all players.
Shamelessly, many of our own fans bought it and vertually quit on the team cos they didn't have the stomach to fight, just like the rest of our boys. I would ask them to do better and fully support the team but I know they won't.
3.) 22 Feb 2025 19:47:59
Oli why don’t you do better instead of telling others what they can and can’t do or what they should or shouldn’t be.
15 Jan 2025 08:16:06
Ed001, do you think we should just get used to having lacklustre first halves under slot as he gauges how to adjust things to take advantage of the opposition? According to feyenoord fans, even at the height of their dominance this was also a feature of slot's reign, they weren't steamrolling teams from minute one but feeling their way into the game and having the opposition come on them before slowly strangling the life out of them.
I think he deserves massive credit for knowing when to switch things up and drop gravenberch into the center half role so that we can create more overloads in midfield and control the game against teams happy to sit in a low block (and gravenberch deserves applause for how he performs in such situations), but a lot of the time slot's way of playing is in so many ways the exact opposite of klopp's- measured, precise, and even kind of conservative in a lot of ways. You have mentioned that our press has been found wanting lately, and generally I think slot is reluctant to commit too much at all to a man to man high press, and our out of possession structure is calibrated in a way that we don't get done on the break, with gakpo especially always positioned so he can cover the space between fullback and midfield.
I wonder what you make of this more mechanical approach to football, where players have much more defined roles than klopp's, where in our prime the relentless high press created thoroughly unpredictable satiations and the front three had more freedom to solve problems on their own? Also, we seem to have big problems with teams who disrupt our rhythm and interrupt the control we are trying to impose by time wasting, fouling, etc, how are we supposed to counteract this?
{Ed001's Note - I very much think it is the way he plays and it will become normal. The only issue I see with it is that most of the changes could have been made before half-time. It was clear they were not coming out of their low block, were not going to be baited, so we could have stopped the slow sauntering around the defence trying to tempt them to come out.
But, so long as Slot keeps getting it right and the results are coming, I am fine with it. It is just that, at some point, opponents will figure out that changes are coming at half-time and will play one way in the first and a different way in the second to counter it.
As for being conservative, all very well but we are constantly caught on the break because the only midfielder that actually ever anticipates danger and tries to cut it out is playing too far forward to affect a break. Mac Allister was asleep again on their goal and Gravenberch got dragged too far forward, again. Neither of them are defensive enough to play a conservative style. We are going to continue to concede soft goals while Mac Allister is in there. Gravenberch at least has the quick reactions and pace to make up for his lack of anticipation, Mac Allister just ends up behind the play. He doesn't offer anything on the ball either from deep, he hasn't the passing range.}
1.) 15 Jan 2025 08:53:36
VVD left his man, there obviously should be pressure on the passer but still that was really bad from VVD. Unfortunately we are not getting results atm, dropping too many points. The saving grace is the league could be won with a low total.
2.) 15 Jan 2025 08:51:06
I agree, Ed01 regarding Macca. I love him to bits and his ability even on the ball is outstanding. However, said ability on the ball seems to work further forward as he has an eye for a killer pass in the final third as well as a goal threat. He is not defensively sound and that makes sense cos at Brighton, he played further forward with Caicedo playing along side and further behind. That's why Endo and Macca worked last season as a tandem cos Endo knows the DM position like clock work which freed up Macca to do damage in the final third.
As for the game, it was what it was. We did our best but a point is a good result away to a team who had won 6 in a row w/ o conceding a goal in addition to never wanting the ball. We do need to start games a bit better even tho, we started well last night but got caught sleeping for their goal.
Lastly, Tsimikas should start games moving forward cos not only is he defensively sound and playing well (unlike Robbo who continues to struggle overall), he seems to be the only one who can deliver a set piece with precision (how he found Jota in that melee, I will never know) cos it seems not a soul in the team can deliver a set piece that can beat the first man. Terrible delivery overall.
{Ed001's Note - he joined Brighton as a number 10.}
3.) 15 Jan 2025 09:02:30
Mark, we’re on 47 points after 20 games. Repeat that in the second half of the season and we end up on 89. No one else is getting near that. Arsenal’s best player since a prime Sanchez is possibly injured until April, and their next biggest goal threat has just done his ACL - they simply haven’t got the goals in them to get much more than 80 points this season. If anyone other than Liverpool wins the league (only Arsenal present a threat for now given that games are running out for City to come back), it will have been a monumental collapse by the club.
4.) 15 Jan 2025 09:22:52
Did Endo and Macca work that much better last season?
I'm sure we lost more games and finished 3rd and got dumped out of Europa.
We can't compare how we will finish this season because its only half way through but i wouldn't say we are worse off because of Mac.
{Ed001's Note - you are missing the point, it would be Endo and Gravenberch, Mac Allister is the one that needs to be replaced. The one that is changed is not Mac Allister, so your comparison was false.}
5.) 15 Jan 2025 09:22:59
Agreed, only Arsenal can catch us. We must start winning again soon. Slot needs to set the team up better from the start.
6.) 15 Jan 2025 09:51:15
It was the wrong way to approach the game. We was all just waiting for the substitutes.
7.) 15 Jan 2025 09:55:24
It was Oli's point about Endo and Macca working better together last season. JK questioned it.
{Ed001's Note - ok, sorry.}
8.) 15 Jan 2025 10:23:24
I love how we can talk about a 'conservative' approach whilst talking about a match in which we pretty much went 1 at the back.
{Ed001's Note - in the second half. But the start was not like that and that is the point.}
9.) 15 Jan 2025 10:32:03
I agree lowe, arsenals max haul is 94. 89 points is 1 loss and 1 draw from their remaining games, I personally think they'll drop more then that. Our max is 101, we have a huge buffer but need to get a few more consecutive wins on the board and really pile the pressure on.
10.) 15 Jan 2025 10:37:48
Ed, it is a bit frustrating that we start with a default of baiting the press stroking the ball around at the back even when slot should know that the other team isn’t interested and don’t play that way in the first place. You’re entirely right that he probably shouldn’t wait till the halfway mark to deduce the obvious, I think lucho really shouldn’t have played up front yesterday but maybe jota can’t play 90 minutes after having played against Accrington Stanley? Gravenberch dropping into center half out of possession showed what kind of skill set we potentially need from a left sided center half in possession, is Konate (who otherwise in form I think rivals saliba for second best center back in the league) perhaps not the best fit against low block teams maybe?
{Ed001's Note - Konate is decent as a ball player, but for a centre half, Gravenberch is a midfielder, so accordingly a step above. I am not sure that is a reason to think Konate needs to be replaced. I would be more worried about the way the defence are left utterly exposed so often by counters because both 'defensive' midfielders are 20 yards too far up the pitch. They both run forward at the same time, even though Trent is also gone forward and they are meant to cover that space too. They need to be more aware of each other and only one go at a time.}
11.) 15 Jan 2025 11:06:35
Oh I didn’t mean to say that he should ever be replaced Ed, he has been our best player this year aside from mo and gravenberch, just that klopp used to employ ibou for games when he needed a decisive proactive aggressive defender and quansah for games when teams let us have the ball. Now obviously quansah has taken a few steps backwards this year and hasn’t even looked good on the ball, which was supposed to be his primary quality. I’m thinking whether the next center half we buy has to be somebody who can step into midfield like grav but who can also drop back into a back three when needed and defend the left wide spaces. Ibou is almost peerless in the latter aspect but not the former. Again a very specific skill set in an increasingly complex football landscape.
{Ed001's Note - possibly.}
12.) 15 Jan 2025 11:20:39
While frustrated with the result and the goal we conceded, I thought we competed well last night in what was Forest's biggest game of the season. The were totally knackered by the end of the game. The intensity was literally like playing a derby at Goodison. The fight is there and we need to see more of it against the equally physical Brentford on Saturday.
I agree that Slot is unlikely to change his approach. While yes he may be conservative in first halves, he has shown he is willing to be pretty bold to change the game in his favour. That is twice now he has moved Gravy to CB and added another attacker. Each time it has swung the control and momentum in our favour. That kind of bravery bodes well for us.
13.) 15 Jan 2025 12:06:06
"I'm sure we lost more games and finished 3rd and got dumped out of Europa. "
JK23 as Ed's said, false comparison. Your stats (if I can even call them that) have nothing to do with individual games won or lost cos no two players ever won or lost a game on their own. This ain't the doubles in lawn or table tennis. You do know that both can play well in games and we can still lose or do I have to spell that out for you?
It is about how well they performed overall as a tandem and in majority of the games they actually played, they played well. Your stats mean nothing in such a context.
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25 Apr 2025 01:52:10
Why does konate not get the respect he deserves on here, even after staying fit for 90% of the campaign and playing the best season of his life?
22 Apr 2025 15:42:58
I don't think we would be targeting him to replace Trent at all although he does have long passing in his repertoire if he needs to launch one. He has excelled at the nasty breaking play and handing the ball off to somebody else part of the game so that's probably the role he will play going forward, he has the motor and the legs to be a Liverpool midfielder too, helps that he has a varied skill set too.
22 Apr 2025 10:34:58
He is nothing like zubimendi but he isn't simply a rubbish house destroyer like mk says, that is the role he is asked to play for Lazio with guendouzi being the more progressive pivot but he was converted from a press resistant deep lying midfielder who sprayed the ball into the wings at Monza and at Genoa, the kid can actually play if he needs to. He also has an insane engine and can run from first minute to last covering space all over the pitch. He has a good first touch for a 6 and is very athletic and strong despite not being the biggest. I think he is a very good player actually, no idea why juventus let him go.
21 Apr 2025 17:46:23
Get the xhaka brothers and Carlos bacca up front and we're all set lads.
21 Apr 2025 06:46:34
Anybody who would swap szoboszlai for the current kdb. I have no words really, I'm just glad you're not in a position to make personnel changes at our club, truly.
{Ed078's Note - "current" being the word. Szoboszlai's work rate is incredible.
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25 Apr 2025 02:00:02
How did his effort levels drop? He reportedly played through an injury for most of this season and was probably our best player against psg at home before he got injured again. You can be upset at him for leaving but saying he didn't do his part winning the title this year for us is just ridiculous, the lad has worked as hard as anyone.
23 Apr 2025 15:06:57
And you really believe that? Huijsen is a Liverpool signing all over, every journo reporting we're in for him, Hughes has contacts at Bournemouth and he has a release clause. To me he seems like the most likely signing of anybody we've been linked with as a long term successor for Virgil.
23 Apr 2025 15:00:43
Nahhhh lads I want Ali to score a header from a corner in the last minute again.
23 Apr 2025 11:09:13
Always remember that a decade and a half ago we had konchesky at left back, poulsen in midfield and Jovanovic up front, and the only joy we had in football was watching united drop points a few times a year.
21 Apr 2025 14:41:15
I think the more bizarre thing is people saying Salah isn't a top 10 pl player of all time and Virgil isn't even a top 10 center half, what an utter joke.