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04 Oct 2021 07:00:40
Thiago would have made a massive difference today, City's press badly unsettled Liverpool in the midfield, however Thiago is virtually press-resistant and would have grasped a lot more control from the game, and especially would have made Jones' life easier.

That being said, I'm really happy with the way we rebounded from that first half Jar Jar Binks performance. Rubbish first halves like that can just happen, but not many teams could suddenly reverse the momentum after the break and lay a couple on City after being severely pinned back in the first half.

Rainbow Jeremy

1.) 04 Oct 2021 07:20:46
Thiago instead of who though?
He cannot play in a midfield 3 against City with Fabinho holding, because you’re never going to see the ball for him to do anything with it.
All the 3 midfielders yesterday had a hell of a job getting the ball back off City and the athleticism needed to do that is just not Thiago’s forte.
Elliott was missed, he’s able to do a bit of both.
A Dacoure or a Bissouma-type player would be a great addition to the midfield mix I think.
I’m more convinced that we need to buy, hopefully in January, to bolster the midfield options.

2.) 04 Oct 2021 07:35:15
Juicer you cannot be saying that doucoure would have done better than Thiago yesterday?

3.) 04 Oct 2021 07:42:03
Thiago instead of Hendo would have gotten us the control yesterday. He is press resistant and could control the game by himself Jones would help him massively as well compliment him. Henderson was running like a headless chicken yesterday.

4.) 04 Oct 2021 07:50:59
We need a Bissouma or even a Kessie who can do the running on the pitch for 90 mins. Gini's gone and Hendo just cannot do that over the course of a season. Ditch Keita and Ox to pay for Bissouma if the money is not there to buy him outright.

5.) 04 Oct 2021 08:10:04
Thiago instead of Jones. Thiago/ Henderson/ Fabinho is Liverpool's best midfield 3. Thiago doesn't wear cinderblocks for shoes mate, he's more than adept at pressing the opposition and I've noticed an improvement in his pressing this season. Liverpool's midfielders were flustered in the first half and Thiago doesn't get flustered very easily.

Why would we buy in January if Elliott is back around January anyway? Why would that midfielder come to sit on the bench for the rest of the season? If he'd be prepared to do that then how actually good is he and is he worth having above Jones and Elliott in the pecking order?

6.) 04 Oct 2021 10:14:09
Juicer, I disagree. Thiago in addition to being one of the most press resistant midfielders in the PL, he is a brilliant presser of the football when fit and on form. Just go watch the Utd game at OT last season where he was a pressing animal and shut Pogba down.

And you saying that if he plays with Fab, he won't see the ball cos City will have possession is not true either cos City ALWAYS have more of the ball each time we have played them and sometimes, we would let them have the ball and them press them by setting pressing traps for them in the half spaces, like we did in the second half.

IMO, the issue was that we lacked bravery in midfield to play the way we wanted to play cos each time we won the ball, we would either hit it long to nobody or our first touch would be absolutely useless. Thiago is brilliant with his first touch and him playing would have allowed the ball to stick cos well, he is press resistant. As for Doucoure and Bissouma, they are nowhere near Thiago's ability on the ball, which is what we needed.

7.) 04 Oct 2021 15:17:50
Chaps keep wishing on a star for this dream midfield you want.
It may have escaped your attention that Thiago is out injured with a muscle injury after a busy end of last season, Summer and hectic start to this.
But I’m afraid that’s how it is is in England.
We’ve seen that Thiago struggles in a high intensity game after 60-70 minutes, so you’ve got to use him wisely and judiciously.
It may seem that I’m anti-Thiago but I’m not, he just has his limitations. He’s at his best when Liverpool are dominating possession.
That is not going to happen playing Man City, so, for me, I’d go with a more flexible player that can do a bit of everything but is more mobile around the park.

8.) 04 Oct 2021 22:48:12
Thanks for bringing to our attention that Thiago is injured, Juicer. You don't realise that was the context of my original post?

Thiago didn't need to play 90 minutes against City to make a difference.



26 Sep 2021 01:21:28
A very frustrating result but I take solace in that Liverpool were just a bit too casual and their own worst enemies, it's not like Brentford exposed a major shortcoming that needs to be rectified in January.

Our back four was largely responsible for dropping points today, yet we wouldn't swap our back four for anyone. These crap results can just happen, oh well.

Rainbow Jeremy

1.) 26 Sep 2021 02:53:58
Quite a lot of our fans seem to want to swap Robbo 😉.

2.) 26 Sep 2021 03:11:02
Robbo the new scapegoat aye? Fans are expecting perfection these days; even when we were the best team in Europe by a country mile in the late 70's and 80's were got these type of results. They'll happen, it's how we respond to them. We're top of the prem, still unbeaten (16 games now) . Let's go.

3.) 26 Sep 2021 03:12:17
I don’t think it’s getting rid of Robbo per say but based on performance, Tsimikas seems to be doing better this season. Robbo had one great run but apart from that, his defending, crosses and corner were very forgettable.

I actually thought Tsimikas might have been sent on after they equalised. I also thought we could have brought on Gomez into a back 5 after going up 3-2.

Overall, we were great going forward, woeful for most parts at the back (all the goals conceded were in the 6 yard box with the last 2 very identical), even Alisson wasn’t at his best and seemed very beatable, Hendo and Jones actually showed good creativity, and a game to remember for the entertainment but not the result.

4.) 26 Sep 2021 03:54:18
Surprisingly were getting bullied at the back by Brentford having a very physical centre forward and others running off him. Usually Matip, Fabinho and VVD would handle that easily but to be fair their forwards did a cracking job.

I felt they also targeted Trent quite a lot, and that final goal he was 3 on 1 at the back post with no chance. I was expecting Klopp to bring on Gomez at RB towards the end (as he used to do regularly in our title winning season) which could have sealed it IMO, but I’m sure we’ll live and learn from this.

Hats off to Brentford though, they played a fantastic game and worth the point.

5.) 26 Sep 2021 06:33:30
I think that’s the point SGRed, their forwards played really well and the team as a whole got stuck into us. I think we were a bit off our game because they put pressure on us, at least from an attacking sense. Fair play to them and, as Imsaid earlier another exciting game to watch.

6.) 26 Sep 2021 07:00:29
Let’s just credit Brentford a little bit more. We made mistakes and can be unbelievably casual in front of goal at times. But then the front three tonight plus Bobby are not pure strikers with that killer instinct. So forgive them a little for trying more fancy finishes over what an Aguero type finisher would do with their chances. If we were to get a Haaland forward we’d have buried them 6-3. But Brentford’s desire and that atmosphere they create. Well done. Quality side. Rather be watching Brentford over teams like Burnley, Spurs and Newcastle at this moment.

7.) 26 Sep 2021 07:54:06
Lots of great points made on here and all I can say is that you all are partially correct. Brentford had a Gale plan and they stuck to it till the end. They saw we were off our game for whatever reason and kept applying pressure where it hurt. We never had ab answer to that and actually I’m not sure anyone was surprised when the equalised. We all saw that coming. Credit to Brentford who played big boy footie. As for the guys scapegoating Robbo, I can agree that he is struggling for form BUT the scapegoating is just tedious stuff that I cannot be arsed about, really.

{Ed025's Note - i thought it was a great advert for the english game oli, blood and guts stuff with a fair share of skill and excitement in abundance..

8.) 26 Sep 2021 08:15:30
I thought the whole team were either under par. The back 5 as a collective were very shaky and I’ve not seen our back 5 look like that since the Villa game.

Allison - a few times he chose to punch the ball when it looked easier to catch it. Punching the. All in the area can cause panic because it means that we have to react to win the second ball which isn’t always a guarantee. Catching it kills the attack immediately.

Trent started well and then looked really shaken. He was passing balls into touch and crossing beyond the pitch.

Robbo in current form is our 2nd best stacking left back. Tsmiskas could very well have started yesterday and on his early form should have. However I’ve not seen enough of him defensively against top class opposition to give an answer on whether he is on a par with Robbo in that area.

Matip and Vvd. Both of them probably had nightmares last night about Tony and the other forward. The least said the better.

The only positive for me is everyone has bad games so hopefully that’s theirs over and done with in 1 game rather than spread out individually over a few.

9.) 26 Sep 2021 11:28:56
“The other forward” probably deserves a bit more respect eh?

10.) 26 Sep 2021 13:49:32
I was super impressed with Brentford already with the way they easily dispatched Arsenal. I knew we would have our hands full with them and boy, did we? They play that brave, big boy footie that I love and the game was end to end stuff. If they are going to go down this season then, they will do it their way and I love that as well. We were not good enough to beat them and I can handle that cos they played brilliantly and I can respect that. Great game for the PL. Not so much for us reds, I guess.



25 Sep 2021 16:51:02
Chelsea's defeat shows why I'm still far from being convinced that they are the outright favourites for this league title. It is a narrative which is actually based on very little, people have confused a great cup run in Europe with a capability to do it over 38 games against City and Liverpool. Chelsea have proven to be fantastic in cup games and when their back is against the wall to grind out a draw or hold a lead, but you CANNOT win the league in this day and age when you play that negatively at home against a title rival. As much as Tuchel got everything right in the final, Pep also got everything wrong and he showed today that he learned his lesson.

Rainbow Jeremy

1.) 25 Sep 2021 17:21:31
I’m fine with being underdogs. Less pressure. If we quietly go about winning games and avoiding injury, we’ll be ok.

{Ed014's Note - there is no way you guys are getting away with pretending you’re under dogs! 🤣

2.) 25 Sep 2021 19:28:05
we're winning nothing with this team this season, sloppy throughout.

3.) 25 Sep 2021 19:30:19
Chelsea have never been favourites. City have always been the favourites and rightly so.

4.) 25 Sep 2021 19:36:26
I'd put money on City, don't see them losing much this season.

5.) 25 Sep 2021 19:39:06
Forget Chelsea when our team are p. ing around.

6.) 25 Sep 2021 20:09:30
Imagine writing our season off just because we drew a game.
Overreact much diddy?

7.) 25 Sep 2021 20:35:00
watch this type of performance throughout the season and come back to me then Flash.
people said the same last season repeatedly up until christmas, we were top remember, everyone saying were going to win the league and its amazing considering our injuries etc, but we were playing poorly and winning (just about), then we completely imploded if you recall

If we drew Brentford in the FA last January when they were still a championship team, we would expect to go there and win 3-0 or so. Any result for them like today would make headlines, ''giant killing'' etc if they won, which they could have with our atrocious defending. Now they're the same team, playing premier league but we struggle. Have they improved that much? Maybe, but we haven't.

ask yourself another question - would city beat these? They would paste them all day long

You need to be beating promoted teams and teams near the bottom home and away to have any chance of winning the league. United did it for years, city recently.
we cock it up, repeatedly.

8.) 25 Sep 2021 22:44:18
Ask yourself another question, would Liverpool beat Spurs or Southampton? City couldn’t.

9.) 25 Sep 2021 23:18:04
All vey nice and full of ‘shoulda’ and stuff - take a look at the League table - have a look who’s top. You might need to readjust some of the pre / mis conceptions you have.

10.) 26 Sep 2021 08:03:43
Mark, not if you are part of the media cos all we read and hear for weeks is about how Chelsea are the best team in the league despite them being top of the table over us just cos their club’s name starts with a C and ours starts with an L.

11.) 26 Sep 2021 08:11:35
Your pointing out league position 6 games into the season.
We are 3 points off 7th.
Plus we were clear at Christmas last season and look how that went.

12.) 26 Sep 2021 09:53:48
Oh Dean. Dean Dean Dean.

13.) 25 Sep 2021 20:46:11
Ed014, when your rivals are spending £100m more than you almost every transfer window. Then you’re the underdog.

{Ed014's Note - yeah ok then!

I guess having world class players like Allison, VVD, Fabinho, Thiago, Salah, Robertson, TAA and Mane doesn’t count for much then.

Nice try though 😂😂



08 Sep 2021 12:19:34
Seems we are interested in Bellingham after all. Paul Joyce is never wrong.

Rainbow Jeremy

1.) 08 Sep 2021 12:39:38
Salah must be off then.

2.) 08 Sep 2021 13:10:06
Salah'll be off if were interested in a league 1 winger apparently.

3.) 08 Sep 2021 14:01:19
Selling Salah to buy Bellingham is robbing Peter to pay Paul. It then leaves the huge problem of replacing Salah, which is almost impossible given the lack of available quality at the sorts of prices FSG want to pay as I can’t think of one wide player beyond Mbappe even remotely capable of replicating what Salah does and mbappe is off to Madrid, we won’t be in that conversation, Bellingham, much like Sancho, Saul, Havertz, Werner, Mbappe, Haaland et al, will never play for us. He’ll end up at Chelsea or United.

4.) 08 Sep 2021 14:25:31
Mbappe on a free xD lol.

5.) 08 Sep 2021 14:30:47
The star reported it, says it all. Nonsense.

6.) 08 Sep 2021 15:56:39
Paul Joyce reported it too mate. He doesn't work for the Star.

7.) 08 Sep 2021 19:37:06
Can any1 think of any1 to replace salah. I can't. Only mbappe is in the same bracket. and quite frankly he isn't up to the same standard yet and the French league is tosh. Imagine salah playing for psg. Let's see how Harvey progresses.

8.) 08 Sep 2021 19:44:37
No point discussing the possibility of Bellingham joining as it will all end in tears.

9.) 08 Sep 2021 19:55:30
Much as i don't believe this, Salah was a 15 goal a season player at Roma. Klopp and the system got an extra 15-20 goals out of him.

So it's easy to say nobody could replace Salah, but everyone said that about Coutinho too. Yet here we are now with Salah (who made our front 3 better than it was with Coutinho) sounding like broken records.

10.) 08 Sep 2021 20:41:11
15 goals a season for a winger in Serie A is very good going as it is still a fairly strong league and certainly was when he was there. But there’s simply no one out there, I can’t think of one player in any of the top leagues we could bring in who can replace Salah considering we’re so skint, and players in the farmers leagues like Holland and France is too much of a risk, as you’re more likely to find a Diouff or a Pepe than you are a Mbappe. Coutinho and Salah are hardly comparable as players or their impact. Coutinho only ever scored more than 10 premier league goals once in his time here, Salah has regularly been around the 20 goals mark evert year. As I say, there’s not one player that we can afford who can replace that.

11.) 09 Sep 2021 03:50:07
I'm not even getting my hopes up, it's just a bit interesting to know as it confirms that Liverpool are actively trying to refreshen the midfield.



06 Sep 2021 06:24:10
I apologise for another positive post, but I just need something clarified.

Liverpool's critics have asked whom we can fall back on if any of our important players such as Salah or Van Dijk are injured.

But what happens to Chelsea if they lose Lukaku? What happens to Man City if they lose KDB? What happens to United if they lose Fernandes?

The prevailing logic in punditry has been that Chelsea and City (and in some people's eyes even United) are impervious to injuries to important players but Liverpool aren't.

What a load of rubbish.

Where are Chelsea's goals going to come from if they lose Lukaku? Their top goalscorer in the league last season was Jorginho with 7 goals, ALL of which were penalties.

City don't have a single prolific goalscorer and need to rely on tactical reshuffles, much of which relies on KDB.

United's midfield lacks structure and control, so what happens if they lose the player whose goalscoring and goal creations somewhat compensates for the lack of structure? What happens if they even lose McTominay?

So I don't understand this notion that our rivals, especially Chelsea, have more balanced squads when they've got their own squad shortcomings that need to be navigated.

What also bugs me is that if it weren't for Tuchel, nobody would be rating Chelsea's squad over Liverpool's - not even with Lukaku. They were distinctly average under Lampard, they leaked goals for fun (with the exact same defenders) and they couldn't put any balls in the back of the net at the other end of the pitch. Not many people rated Chelsea to get past an over-the-hill Real Madrid let alone City in the final, but suddenly Tuchel pulls off a few masterclasses and they're the best squad in the country? Come off it! If Pep hadn't completely s*** the bed in the final then would Chelsea's squad be talked about in the same regard? I really doubt that!

This is not a diss on Chelsea and everyone else, in fact I strongly respect Tuchel in particular and his squad, it's rather a diss at the lazy punditry designed to generate hype and interest for the new season instead of properly dissecting what is happening. I think everyone has been swept up with the Chelsea and United hype because everyone wants a classic 4-horse race just like PL's good old days of 2004 to 2009. Hype always follows the big spending teams but that hype often falls flat on its arse.

Rainbow Jeremy

1.) 06 Sep 2021 07:12:27
I agree with that to a degree Jeremy . Lampard had failed where Tuchel has so far succeeded told me a lot about the caliber of the two coaches, a four horse race would be very interesting, its Man utd that seem to be the wild card in that presumed group. The second coming may not yield the resurrection that the Red Devils are anticipating. Liverpool look well balanced if a touch light in depth, City are what they are and I'd expect Chelsea to continue be a top contender.

2.) 06 Sep 2021 07:20:09
Man utd have still got ole! the only manager in the conversation who has yet to win a trophy.

3.) 06 Sep 2021 07:32:17
Finally someone with sense!

4.) 06 Sep 2021 07:35:35

I definitely expect City and Chelsea to challenge, my gripe is that the quality of their squads doesn't remove Liverpool from the equation as they're a lot more equal to Liverpool than people seem prepared to admit.

Liverpool have the best first XI, which is the most important part of a squad. We have the best goalkeeper, the best back four, a very strong starting midfield and a very strong forward line. I would've rated the front 3 as the best in the league but United now have Ronaldo and Greenwood hitting his stride, whom I think is gold dust.

City are stacked with tricky midfielders and wingers, but it's a crucial necessity for Pep to have that depth because he can't execute his playing style without them.

5.) 06 Sep 2021 07:37:44
Not many people thought Chelsea would beat an absolutely shocking Madrid side. Everyone except you thought they would easily beat RM. we just made RM look far better than they were.

I am not sure we get a single player in Chelsea’s starting midfield. Chelsea were in transition last season and they are clearly improving. I would be surprised if Chelsea don’t get around 90 points this season.

6.) 06 Sep 2021 07:45:08
Also further to my point re Chelsea, I think we need to see how Chelsea can hold up over 38 games, because everyone is assessing Chelsea based on what they did in the Champions League and we know better than anyone what a different kettle of fish it is to winning the league title. Chelsea are still a bigger unknown quantity in the league than Liverpool, executing masterclasses in the UCL like we did under Rafa doesn't mean you have the wherewithal for a league title grind, which we've proven to be capable of.

7.) 06 Sep 2021 08:02:42
Don't be ridiculous markp08, this is the exact kind of revisionism I'm talking about. Chelsea were definitely not expected to sweep Madrid aside like that.

Who cares if none of our midfielders get into Chelsea's? You could argue that Liverpool had a stronger midfield than United from 08 to 09 and look at the difference that made.

Most of Liverpool's defenders and attackers, and their goalkeeper, walk into Chelsea's team.

8.) 06 Sep 2021 08:30:12
You are going over the top on Chelsea mate. Salah gets in Chelsea’s team that’s it atm for the forwards. Defence I agree. The way your talking you think Chelsea will get less than 80 points. We have more questions to answer than Chelsea.

9.) 06 Sep 2021 08:53:38
I'm not saying that at all mark. Chelsea just have more to prove than Liverpool. Chelsea would still take Mane over Werner as well.

10.) 06 Sep 2021 09:03:54
I love Mane but nobody knows which Mane we will see this year. We pray it’s the Mane of 2 seasons ago. Firmino we can’t rely on and which Thiago will we see.

A massive question for me is who plays left midfield, because I don’t think it can be Hendo.

I don’t care, in fact it’s good all pundits have wrote us off, I just don’t see why you are trying to put Chelsea down as I think they will be right up there.

11.) 06 Sep 2021 09:07:24
Asserting that which players would get in opposition sides usually ignores the requirements placed upon the teams by the incumbent management . As to which of the main protagonists has the best team and is the most likely to succeed in the quest for that ridiculous lump of lazily designed silverware, only father time could tell . Meanwhile we shall argue till the wee hours, lose friends, alienate family and generally make clowns of ourselves in a frighteningly repetitive manner until the distant far off promised land of adulthood.

12.) 06 Sep 2021 09:23:13
None of our players could get into Chelsea's starting midfield? Come on, are you really saying you'd want Jorginho over Fabinho? Or Hendo?

13.) 06 Sep 2021 09:32:09
Mark, I'm not putting Chelsea down and I did make a point to clarify that I still strongly respect Tuchel and his squad. It's still a very good squad. I'm just highlighting weaknesses and questions that are being ignored by a lot of people. What are Chelsea going to do if they lose Lukaku? If people can ask the same question in respect to Liverpool and Salah or Van Dijk, then the same has to be asked of a team who bought Lukaku to fill a gaping hole in their squad. Do they have enough goals to win the league if Lukaku gets injured or goes through a long barren spell?

As for Mane, I think he has shown at the end of last season and the start of this season that he is rediscovering his mojo. He copped C.V. last season and from thereon lost all of his energy and sharpness. But the Mane I have seen in the last 6 games or so much more so resembles the Mane we know. He didn't suddenly become an average player.

14.) 06 Sep 2021 09:33:08
Mark Werner does not displace any of our front three. Not ever. The guy is catastrophic in front of goal since his move to the Premiership. We dodged a bullet there and nothing to do with his hearing affliction and loud crowd noises last season. He was terrible for Germany at the Euros too.

15.) 06 Sep 2021 09:33:20
I actually agree with you Vermiculo, what I'm doing is turning people's logic back on them. They've completely disregarded the team chemistry and harmony created by Klopp's management.

16.) 06 Sep 2021 10:04:53
Markp, if you truly love Mane does it matter which one turns up?

17.) 06 Sep 2021 10:44:12
It matters to the team mate. If last years Mane turns up he clearly shouldn’t be an automatic starter. I love the team far more than any individual.

18.) 06 Sep 2021 12:27:45
I think only ManU can go 2 or 3 deep in attack, but then they, like the rest of the league will start to be impacted by injuries to key players. what we and every team need to avoid is losing loads of players at one time, but that would seem obvious.

19.) 06 Sep 2021 12:34:20
If City lose KDB and Chelsea lose Lukaku they just go back to winning the League or CL, they have quality after quality, we lack massively, there's no way we have the injuries we did again, but our problem is also, the front 4 can't play every week and certainly in Bobby and Manes case, they can't keep up the form of 2 years ago.

20.) 06 Sep 2021 13:24:02
Not sure how we get one in atm.

21.) 06 Sep 2021 14:17:12
How can you say Saul is a midfield starter for Chelsea when he hasn't even made a single appearance for them?

22.) 06 Sep 2021 14:56:45
They bought him to play as far as I understand it Zp.

23.) 06 Sep 2021 17:03:57
Ughh, Mark same ole stuff again? This player does not make it into that team and vice versa. Ugh, give it a rest bro. The OP makes some salient points that you have not even addressed. Whether this or that player would start ahead of this or that player in this or that team, is irrelevant IF you don't consider systems and ethos of both teams.

Chelsea are a defend-first team cos when Tuchel came in, they could not score goals nor keep them out hence, the 5 at the back that they play. Also, that system will work in a knockout comp. esp. going against a wretched RM team that we should have beaten and we weren't even at our best and wet the bed on a tactical level. Chelsea saw that and did not make such mistakes and won the CL and hats off to them. The comparison is irrelevant.

Now, it's Mane that is your new target? What has that got to do with whether Chelsea can compete if all their top guys are injured? Nobody knows what Saul will do so stop bigging him up in a bid to put us down cos there is NO evidence to prove he will be great for them either.

The fact is that as OP said, If they lose their top players esp. Lukaku, they will struggle, Chelsea have NOT challenged for the title in 4 years, Tuchel has NO history of challenging in a 38 game season in England. Facts. LFC have that lived experience and that could count for a lot moving forward.

24.) 06 Sep 2021 23:45:13
Saul Niguez, such a good player who would walk into any team yet Atletico don't want him.

Lancaster, you just talk dribble mate. I'm talking about the league. If Chelsea lose Lukaku then they are not winning the league. Likely not the Champions League either. Ditto Man City.




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26 Sep 2021 11:23:03
He's basically another Isco.

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07 Sep 2021 03:50:55
Would any of our rivals pay him 500K? Doubt it. Some fans genuinely aren't happy with club success unless it was achieved by spending as much money as possible.

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31 Aug 2021 08:10:34
I'll be really, really annoyed if he suddenly changed his mind and decided to leave with 1 or 2 days left to replace him.

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30 Aug 2021 17:35:59
Bledd85, IMO a lot of people are criticising the players with the inference that our season is doomed.

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30 Aug 2021 07:05:15
Mane had no service.

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18 Oct 2021 10:39:44
I'm not so sure Victor. When we went there in the title-winning season they were in even worse disarray, and according the script we were supposed to wallop them, but Lallana had to save us with a late equaliser. Whatever is bad that is going on at that club always goes out the window when we come to town.

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05 Oct 2021 11:56:20
- I was thinking I was crazy before reading this review because I thought I was the only one worried by Matip's performance. People seem to get their summary of the game wrong all of the time, like they don't wait long enough to let their thoughts settle. People may remember Matip getting his head to a few balls or making a couple of interceptions, but that long ball over the top was bypassing him and exposing us all of the time, he always seemed too slow to react to it. I wouldn't drop him yet, I'd give him one more game to sort himself out, or else give Konate a go.

- I think it's time to give Tsimikas another run, Robertson is too hot and cold at the moment, and he really needs to sort out his crossing and corner delivery because he is wasting good moments of opportunity with balls that just bobble along the ground. Tsimikas' delivery is bloody excellent, he has more guile in the final third and he's a tenacious defender. Robertson is still number one, don't get me wrong, but he is out of form and his deputy has a lot of strengths that are perfect for the team.

I don't entirely agree with Ed that City were poor in the first half. They definitely should have exploited our unsettled back four a lot better, a chance from a difficult angle for Foden and a diving header chance for KDB isn't enough return for the dominance they enjoyed. But the key is that City still had Liverpool on the ropes for most of that first half, they were holding on for dear life for half time to come. City may have been a bit sloppy but they must've done something right to make Liverpool retreat out of fear in the first place. Ed, I'd like to know what you think of that counterargument.

- I can't be convinced that City would have towelled us if they had a striker. Having essentially 5 attacking midfielders on the pitch in the way they did makes it easier for City to press, keep possession and create opportunities. The obvious drawback is that they have no focal point and therefore need to fashion really good opportunities to score. But if they have a striker on the pitch, they likely don't have as much control or dominance and therefore get they maybe get one good chance in a far more even battle.

- A bit unrelated but I still don't see the big hype in Chelsea, they seemed like they were running out of ideas until Ward-Prowse got sent to the showers. The hyperbole about Chelsea's depth is so ridiculous that some people are purring about the option of Loftus Cheek off the bench. Again, I don't see the massive hype in their forward depth. Apart from a UCL final goal for Havertz, I can't think of anything noteworthy that they've done. I think Liverpool and City are clearly ahead of Chelsea, Chelsea look like they still have some things to work out, whereas the other two clubs have won the biggest trophies and know what works for them.

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{Ed001's Note - I get what you are saying, but that is the point, they didn't do any more and should have done.}



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04 Oct 2021 22:48:12
Thanks for bringing to our attention that Thiago is injured, Juicer. You don't realise that was the context of my original post?

Thiago didn't need to play 90 minutes against City to make a difference.

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04 Oct 2021 08:10:04
Thiago instead of Jones. Thiago/ Henderson/ Fabinho is Liverpool's best midfield 3. Thiago doesn't wear cinderblocks for shoes mate, he's more than adept at pressing the opposition and I've noticed an improvement in his pressing this season. Liverpool's midfielders were flustered in the first half and Thiago doesn't get flustered very easily.

Why would we buy in January if Elliott is back around January anyway? Why would that midfielder come to sit on the bench for the rest of the season? If he'd be prepared to do that then how actually good is he and is he worth having above Jones and Elliott in the pecking order?

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03 Oct 2021 16:00:57
Ed002, they probably already know who they think will succeed Martinez. Why can't they just be normal? Who would even work for them at this point?

Rainbow Jeremy