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07 Jan 2022 04:51:45
Is Origi on list of potential incoming for Newcastle?
Also seen Philips being tracked by PL Teams.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Newcastle for Origi. There is interest in Phillips but the asking price is an issue.}

1.) 07 Jan 2022 09:28:52
Is 15m OTT? Nat has proven himself as a solid, non nonsense defender who will not need any bedding into the EPL.

2.) 07 Jan 2022 09:39:59
In this day and age 15m is a steal for Nat, solid no nonsense premier league defender. Newcastle need a centre back with his qualities.

3.) 07 Jan 2022 09:51:40
They’re welcome to go and find another young English centre back with premier league and champions league experience for less than £15m if they want.

4.) 07 Jan 2022 09:52:42
24 year old who's barely played double figures in games, is 5th choice, who other clubs know wants out and also these clubs know we need to sell before we can buy. People need to stop thinking about £15m, we will not get near that. Take £10m and run.

5.) 07 Jan 2022 10:02:12
And therein lies the problem.
He wants to play regular football.
Liverpool need money.
He’s 5th choice centreback.
And all the other clubs know that.

6.) 07 Jan 2022 10:07:17
They’ve offered £7m, we want £15, they’re desperate for defenders, there’s a balance to be struck there somewhere, where’s David Dickinson when you need him eh?

7.) 07 Jan 2022 10:10:31
Where is the asking price of £15m on the official LFC website? I had a look but couldn’t find it anywhere.

8.) 07 Jan 2022 10:23:18
Apparently it’s the widely rumoured asking price.

9.) 07 Jan 2022 10:28:02
I see no reason why he should be allowed to leave for less. He recently signed a new deal, is English and has proven himself at the highest level. So what if he is 5th choice, that's 5th choice at Liverpool but 1st choice somewhere else. Championship centre backs move £10m, why should we take less just becaise we have to sell to buy.

10.) 07 Jan 2022 10:50:17
Didn’t Chelsea’s backup kiddies go for 25M or so? I don’t think fifth choice is justification for a Low price. He is worth whatever people are willing to pay.

11.) 07 Jan 2022 10:52:13
Makes me laugh, when we buy we should pay the price but when clubs fail to meet our asking price we’re pricing the player out of a move. £15 m isn’t a lot of money for a proven English cb.

12.) 07 Jan 2022 10:58:21
If 15m is a rumour or not it’s peanuts for a solid defender like Nat! I love the lad gives it his all hope he gets his move and becomes a top player!
Players could learn a lot from him he’s no snow flake and makes a show of some of these over paid pretty boys! He’s one reason we are in the champs league this season too!
Stand up and be counted “ Nat Philips where’s the F#%#%% ladder “.

13.) 07 Jan 2022 11:09:00
I doubt we will see any departures until the C.V. outbreak is over. Will need all available players possible.

14.) 07 Jan 2022 11:51:35
Newcastle just paid £12m for a regular England international who played in teams that got to the World Cup semi and the Euro final and was a regular member of a team that has just won La Ligament.

A tad more impressive CV than Nat’s (albeit I don”t rate Trippier) .

Not saying I agree with the view but you can see why sections of society who don’t support Liverpool might think our rumoured asking price is a bit steep.

15.) 07 Jan 2022 11:52:06
If Maguire is worth £75m then Nat is worth at the very least £15m! I don’t see why anyone would criticise the club for not allowing us to have our pants pulled down on every transfer.

16.) 07 Jan 2022 12:12:44
In fairness, Trippier is 32 this year and on the way down career wise, so not really much of a comparison, I think it’s fairer to compare Phillips to Michael Keane or someone like that.

17.) 07 Jan 2022 12:15:49
We've over priced average players in the past. Harry Wilson a prime example.

But Phillips is different. He is at least as good as Ben White and the only reason it's not being talked about at £50m is because he doesn't get media hype or a good FIFA card.

I've seen Michael Keane, James Tarkowski, Harry Maguire, Ben White, Fikayo Tomori and many others all talked about as £30m+ players in recent years. So don't kid us Liverpool fans that Phillips is worth less than half of them.

£15m is an absolute bargain and if Newcastle aren't happy with that price, they can go and get an absolute waster like Nathan Ake for £40m if they want.

18.) 07 Jan 2022 12:25:39
West derby wanderer trippier is 31, Phillips is 24 and yes might not have the cv that trippier has but that doesn’t mean he won’t go on and achieve things getting regular football. 15m for a young English cb is a bargain, let’s not fool ourselves. And I’m the same breath I’d snap their hand off at the 7m rumoured fee for origi.

19.) 07 Jan 2022 12:40:42
This conversation is pointless. His value is only as much as someone is willing to pay for him. That may be considered a good or overinflated price but that is all that matters. What Man u or Newcastle paid for Maguire or Trippier is completely irrelevant.

20.) 07 Jan 2022 13:04:17
Exactly Potclay.

21.) 07 Jan 2022 13:26:55
It is not irrelevant though as that creates a market whereby value is determined/ compared. So if you go Tesco and pay £2 for a bunch of bananas but they're 50p in Aldi, is that irrelevant? No, you would be asking why they are so different in price.

22.) 07 Jan 2022 14:18:32
Phillips has not looked out of place in our lineup in over two years. The only reason why he isn't getting more minutes is the obvious one, and that's that we have a crowded defense. 15M for a guy who is dependable and can start, has HG status, is of prime age, on low wages, and is coming from a winning culture does not seem unreasonable to me.

23.) 07 Jan 2022 14:50:11
If he was worth £15m some team somewhere would have paid it on the 1st of January. He's only worth what others are prepared to pay for him.

24.) 07 Jan 2022 14:58:38
"They’re welcome to go and find another young English centre back with premier league and champions league experience for less than £15m if they want. "

I am sure United would offload Maguire for less.

25.) 07 Jan 2022 16:51:40
Damn right too Harry the RED. I'd rather have Phillips at the back than Maguire. One can defend, and one survives on a fabricated reputation only.

26.) 07 Jan 2022 17:34:17
James Pearce is the journalist who reported the asking price at 15 mill.

Personally I would have thought we would have a few teams in for him at that price. As it stands he’s still here so although us fans including myself rate him at 15 mill plus. Perhaps the premier league managers don’t 🤷🏻‍♂️

I suppose only time will tell.

27.) 07 Jan 2022 19:50:44
The lads never looked out of place when called upon but there are definitely a few red tinted specs in these comments. He’s a good player, from what we’ve seen, he’s English and 24, yes, but he’s not really played masses of amounts of football at the top level, he is not getting much game time at us now, and we’re in need of money. £15 million would be a great price for us, but I suspect we’ll have to come down on our asking price and maybe include add ons. Besides, it’s never good being seen as a club that will let players careers stagnate.

28.) 07 Jan 2022 20:56:33
Cruyff turn … 20 mill minimum 😁.

29.) 07 Jan 2022 22:50:00
stuie_boy, to use your analogy of the bananas. There are many circumstances where a shopper would buy the £2 ones and equally refuse the 50p ones.

I'm desperate for bananas, I've got nothing else in and I desperately need some. Time is ticking and the shops are closing soon = £2. I'm looking at the bananas for 50p, they look a bit bruised, I've already got some other fruit in the house and to be honest I spent most of my money on something else earlier in the week. I think I'll pass on bananas this time.

The point is and has always been, what a club is willing to spend on buying a player. We had some Coutinho bananas and sold them at Harrods prices. We now have some Philips bananas and they are pretty good bananas but for some reason we can't shift them, that's how it goes. What previous or future bananas may go for only effect your offer price, only when you actually sell your bananas can you categorically say that they are worth what they are worth.

On a final note, I don't really like bananas.

30.) 08 Jan 2022 13:02:39
For £15 million, you don't normally get players that have played masses amount of top level PL games. That is the point, Nat has had half a season and done really well in the PL. If he had played a mass amount of games he would clearly go for a lot more?

31.) 08 Jan 2022 20:02:32
Alright! Enough with the haggling. You've brought back memories of my youth, going shopping with my Mother (you have no idea what shopping with an Asian mother is like) .

Can we settle at 12.5 Million and move on? (I think we're going to see somewhat depressed prices everywhere for the next 1-2 years - at least until CV after effects are gone. Of course, the best, the top of the cream players, will remain mostly unaffected; that's how it is in every business) .



12 Aug 2021 07:43:52
Is Shaq on his way to Lyon? I heard issue is difference of 2M Euros in valuation.
Surely can be met between

All the best to him if he leaves. gave us some good moments and frees up a squad place.


1.) 12 Aug 2021 09:06:35
I couldn't believe the club had gone down to a final price of 8 million Euros. For a player with 96 caps and that magic left wand of a foot? Granted he didn't play often for us, but there's no questioning the skill and talent.

And then I said to myself, it's either take the 8 million now and use the money to grow the future, or get nothing next summer when he walks away for free. The Wijnaldum lesson has been learnt well.

2.) 12 Aug 2021 09:21:13
He’s had a lot of injury issues and at 29 there’s a lot of risk on the buying club, so it’s understandable that they’d make a lower offer.

3.) 12 Aug 2021 09:32:30
I also think his public flirtation with Lazio has angered the club. So they said, get rid at the best price possible. He's done this (angered the club) everywhere he's gone in the past.

4.) 12 Aug 2021 09:36:43
And CV.

I did wonder whether Shaq may be part of a deal for Aouar, but obvs not.

5.) 12 Aug 2021 09:38:23
I think it’s a good fee for player that’s injured a lot and hasn’t set the world a light
Here . wish him well.

6.) 12 Aug 2021 09:53:48
Its a miracle lyon can pay 6million even.

7.) 12 Aug 2021 10:09:11
He holds one of the none HG spots as well as big wages so I think its a good move, We only paid £13m or so for him. So with C.V. his injury record over the last 2 season his age it's not a bad deal. He wants out to play more and that is not going to happen here and with the stage of his career you can't blame him.

8.) 12 Aug 2021 10:44:48
Although he's agreed on terms with them he will not be sold unless OL increases their offer of €6m with add-ons. We apparently want another €2m but I think a set of add-ons that'll take it realistically up might do the job. He has his heart set on moving to OL. I honestly thought he had his heart set on Lazio two weeks ago. Good luck to him wherever he ends up as even he can see that Elliot will play his former role this coming year.

9.) 12 Aug 2021 12:14:52
In this market, if Grealish is a 100mm and Shaqiri is 6m. The world has gone bonkers.

10.) 12 Aug 2021 12:39:33
The transfer market values aren't driven by talent, rather they're driven by how much a team wants a player.

11.) 12 Aug 2021 12:49:29
As well as so many other factors like age, past record, length of contract, injury record etc etc.

12.) 12 Aug 2021 13:41:52
I love Big Shaq but sadly he wasn't used more than I'd like. So, its probably time to bid farewell and that's probably the best for both club and player. I wish him all the best, wherever he ends up. He'll still be part of the Liverpool family and history.

13.) 12 Aug 2021 13:49:02
I'd rather keep him than spend £40+ on Sanchez. I mean, Is Sanchez (assuming that's who we're going for) really that much better with all things considered? I'd rather the club utilised the squad for this season and saved up for next year or when we can afford our number one targets. Shaq is not that bad a player, but Keita would be the first out the door for me.

14.) 12 Aug 2021 17:25:08
I have never liked her music she is married to Gerard Piqué :-)



02 Oct 2020 05:15:23
Brewster offers from Shef utd Fulham and Cystal palace.
H. WILSON burley
Gurjic goadbach and hertha berlin . ?

Ed's any other player heading out?


{Ed002's Note - Possibly Shaqiri and some fringe players.}

1.) 02 Oct 2020 09:13:14
Brewster off to Sheffield Utd. Looks a good deal for all parties.
If we can get Wilson, Shaq and Grujic off the books as well, maybe a CB can come in (the thought of VVD getting injured gives me nightmares)

2.) 02 Oct 2020 09:57:51
Origi staying?



19 Jul 2020 04:22:21
Fraser Hendricks M Longstaff Willian all possible free agents . any interest in them as we are broke this summer?


{Ed0666's Note - We don’t padfill the squad anymore mate with players just for the sake of it. We have youth players all comparable to all of the players you mention. And free doesn’t mean free mate because Bosman’s aren’t cheap when you add up the signing on fee, agent fee, wages etc etc.

1.) 19 Jul 2020 10:11:55
Sweet jeebus 🤦🏻‍♂️.

2.) 19 Jul 2020 10:40:37
Is that Jeff Hendricks? Christ.

3.) 19 Jul 2020 12:39:28
Matty Longstaff is a decent young player. Not sure he's better than Leighton Clarkson.

Personally i'd rather Elliott than Fraser, Jones than Hendricks, and Brewster than Willian.

They are all good players bhav_reds, but i think we need better than just "good players".

4.) 19 Jul 2020 12:44:09
could do with a comma there mate.
I'm with ed there. our squad is massive as it is. We all understand where the weak spots are but we can't just be adding more players. I mean dang, just cos there are no fans doesn't mean we need to help the situation and put more players in the stands to watch.

5.) 19 Jul 2020 17:23:37
The only one of those that I'd have is maybe Matty Longstaff, as he plays a different role in the midfield than Curtis Jones, and Pedro Chiravella is undoubtedly leaving.

I just doubt that he'd want to come considering how limited his minutes would be initially.

Personally, I think he'd be mad to leave Newcastle right now, just as they're going to have big cheques flying around for top talent just as his professional career is kicking off.

6.) 19 Jul 2020 21:25:05
Hendricks? We'd be as well to field a nice free range hen and decapitate it as we kick off.

7.) 21 Jul 2020 21:51:28
Willian is decent and as we’ve seen over the past few games we need goals. We create the most chances but take too few. I had hoped we’d get a striker and cb in drop firmino in behind the striker and a solid cb pairing is a must. I like gomez and matip but to improve we need another good cb. Also if we want to be silly and throw names out there I’d like to see Jack grealish at Liverpool. Pretty much carrying villa ove to see what he could do in a better team.



29 May 2018 04:31:48
Fabinho Joins.


1.) 29 May 2018 06:19:17
Very very pleased, not because I’ve seen much of him, but because we finally have a proper alternative to Hendo at no.6 at last. I think this gives us a huge amount of flexibility to control games we might have struggled in in the past.

As a bonus he can also cover effectively for Trent.

If we can get in Fekir now to cover wide attacking positions (and AM), and can bring in a top GK I think we are 95% of the way there.

I think this is a big big statement that Klopp is positioning to be more tactically flexible, and learning that closing out scrappy games in the Pl is a critical part of winning the title.

Excited already for the new season.

2.) 29 May 2018 08:53:36
Yep I'm thrilled about this one as well. Not just a replacement for but an upgrade on Emre. Along with Keita and Fekir (or whoever) this will add great depth and flexibility to or midfield. The English lads and Gini will have a job just to get into the team now. He's young, versatile, hard-working, scores goals, not going to the World Cup and of course he knows Bobby from Brazil and who could think of a better guy to help you get settled into life on Merseyside? Great signing and a lovely surprise to wake up to this morning. I really think he'll help us make that step up to the next level.




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26 Mar 2022 04:23:45
What is firmino Salah and mane are replaced by raphina Bowen and sarr we won’t get same goals maybe but surely good talented players. Plus can add Carvalho from Fulham for origi.


{Ed0666's Note - don’t they all play in the right wing?

1.) 26 Mar 2022 06:32:56
We shall be fighting for 4th place Arsenal trophy.

2.) 26 Mar 2022 07:03:30
Anybody seen much of carvalho? Is a winger r attaching midfielder type?

3.) 26 Mar 2022 09:30:26
Digger10 seems to be able to play on the wing reasonably but primarily is an attacking midfielder from what I have seen.

4.) 26 Mar 2022 10:18:06
rekon Carvalho would be coming in to play Bobby's role. at least I hoe we don't try convert him into a midfielder. imo he has too much in his locker to be grinding it out in our midfield, especially while he is still young.

5.) 26 Mar 2022 11:45:32
I know what you mean Finw though, conversely, I’m of the opposite opinion when it comes to Elliott.
I don’t really like him as a right winger type, much prefer him in midfield where his busy style suits him more imo.

6.) 26 Mar 2022 17:06:36
Harvey elliot is a top lad. My mates boss knows his dad and our pal is getting married. He called his old man and Harvey called back and said he would do a recorded message and send a signed shirt. Top man.

{Ed0666's Note - that was hard to keep up

7.) 27 Mar 2022 13:56:41
OP, I don’t understand your post.



01 Feb 2022 02:56:58
N Williams joins fulham on loan. maybe keeps them on good terms with us now lol.


1.) 01 Feb 2022 05:37:04
Technically Fulham are now out of the equation deal wise.

2.) 01 Feb 2022 07:10:48
Thought neco went to Bournemouth I'm confused.



23 Dec 2021 10:45:08
With seemigly D. Ali and E. Nketia available on cut prices should we be going for them. both are english and young and potential to be better. can replace Noby and origi in the squad.


1.) 23 Dec 2021 11:02:32
Wouldn’t want Dele Ali anywhere near us.

2.) 23 Dec 2021 11:06:12

3.) 23 Dec 2021 11:14:55
No thanks to either of them. Alli is just as bad as Keita. If not worst, both in attitude and performance.

Nketiah is not going to leave Arsenal's bench to sit on Liverpool's bench. He is not as good as Origi either.

4.) 23 Dec 2021 11:15:54
Dele absolutely no chance I want him anywhere near our club.
Not seen enough of nketia but there seems to be a lot of high praise in the game for him, could be worth a punt?

5.) 23 Dec 2021 11:19:11
Agree with neketiah, the guy could be a real klopp type player with the right coaching i think!

He won me and sunderland the champions league in football manager as well!

6.) 23 Dec 2021 11:32:04
Arsenal have Some very good young players. These are not them. Martinelli and Smith Rowe, that’s where the potential is.

7.) 23 Dec 2021 11:36:05
Alli? No. Peaked when he was 21 and is now squandering his talent by being not bothered.

Nketiah has potential but needs to play regularly at this point his career (he's 22), and he wouldn't play regularly for us as things stand. Playing the amount of footie Origi or Minamino currently play for us wouldn't be enough imo. It'd be a case of buy him, send him loan possibly until the end of next season until a player or two has moved on and there's room for him to get game time.

I wouldn't be mad against it per se, there are worse ways we could spend the money, but a lot would depend on how his loan moves go.

8.) 23 Dec 2021 12:02:58
Such a shame to see Dele Allis early promise wasted. All that talent and no application.

9.) 23 Dec 2021 12:16:13
Dele Ali noooooooooooo😡.

10.) 23 Dec 2021 17:01:12
MKS, I was going to say the exact same thing. You beat me to it.

11.) 23 Dec 2021 17:03:21
Isn't Dele Ali a huge fan of the club though? Maybe that plus Klopp, would see him regain the form he once had?

12.) 23 Dec 2021 19:04:25
Can't stand deli Ali. Worst hair cut I've ever seen. Lol.

{Ed0666's Note - worse than Peter Beardleys? I like Deli Ali’s hair it’s super cool. I love the pink bits.

13.) 23 Dec 2021 21:03:49
I've seen signs recently that Ali is trying to re-discover that spark. I don't think it's too late for him with the right coach (no prizes for guessing who) but I do think we'd be priced out of it.
As he's now older and a bit more mature, I think his attitude could well improve drastically at the right club.

14.) 23 Dec 2021 21:52:01
Based solely on observation from afar and having no insider knowledge, it seems the biggest blocker to Ali at a stage when he could have kicked into a genuinely good player was Mourinho. Didn’t like him, wouldn’t pick him and critical of his performances in the media on the odd occasion he gave him a game. I actually feel sorry for the lad.

From our perspective we have better players and prospects coming through.

I think it’s a bit of MOTD fever with Nketiah (sp? ) . With due respect to the opposition they were not exactly top drawer.



30 Aug 2021 09:07:52
Few fwds will be available from our rivals for cut price.

Lacazate, daniel jamea and M. Kean

Looks like all 3 clubs are looking for buyer.

We should take punt on lacazette as short term. adding auror on loan.


1.) 30 Aug 2021 09:14:46
Its a very good suggestion lacazette. But i doubt arsenal would sell to us.
Also it will be very short term. Arteta has killed lacazette. He was a brilliant striker.

2.) 30 Aug 2021 09:18:01
If that's the best lot available in the market, I'd rather take a punt on Kaide Gordon and Musialowski who have brilliant potential.
We are trying to move squad players on, not add more of them.

3.) 30 Aug 2021 09:32:03
Now that Ronaldo has gone to Utd, what about a cheeky bid for Cavani.

4.) 30 Aug 2021 10:03:22
Lacazette is awful.

5.) 30 Aug 2021 10:05:09
Bring back Suarez, its worth the risk.

6.) 30 Aug 2021 13:17:25
Akira’s desperation for a shiny new toy, is becoming the stuff of legends. Lacazette? Yeah, legendary indeed.



11 Aug 2021 00:54:45
Gm everyone. are we interested in Doku. if yes have we registered the same with his agent or current club?
Would be a good addition if around 20m.


{Ed002's Note - 20M what?

1.) 11 Aug 2021 01:01:57
Turkish Lira?

2.) 11 Aug 2021 06:08:39

3.) 11 Aug 2021 07:38:30
Maybe m&m's . Rennes will accept nothing less than 20,000,000 red and yellow m&m's not one less, and certainly not in peanut ones! What could you possibly get with 20,000,000 peanut m&m's? , madness that's what!

4.) 11 Aug 2021 08:32:45
A lot of rap songs!

5.) 11 Aug 2021 03:03:47
Ok would he be a good addition at the price his currenr club rennes is looking for?

Are we interested in him and contacted the club or his agent.

{Ed002's Note - His club are not looking to sell him. Liverpool have sustained interest and he has visited the club as a kiddie. A move elsewhere would be more likely next year.}




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13 Jun 2022 08:48:09
I think he would have got a better salary at Man utd then what we are offering for now we can guess he wants to be rich and successful and not just former.

Whether or not we over paid to get his signature at a level where man utd were not going to go. not sure on that.


{Ed025's Note - he is costing a lot of money bhav. Upwards of £85m they are saying. Now perhaps you can all stop moaning about how much Man City are spending… people who live in glass houses and all that..



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26 Mar 2022 04:21:00
If scraping the barrel means getting 1m more . I am for scrapping my life.




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29 Jan 2022 15:22:25
GK 2nd choice incoming only if Kehlleher leaves.
Else Adrian and Karius out.

N. williams leaving may force hand for a RB.
Else sell Matip if Phillips is still here and we are good.

Most changes should happen here.
Fab Hendo Jones and Elliot plus one of Keita OX and Thiago to stay.
Milner and 2 of above 3 to be replaced by Bissouma/ Keisse and Carvalho

Origi Mina and one or 2 of Mane and Firmino to leave.

Diaz, and some one on free like Dybala to join.

The above will in my opinion will be very strong squad.




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07 Jan 2022 04:48:25
Move Adrian and Karius, Neco, Philips, VDB Or Rhy, Keita, Ox, Mina, Origi.

In 2 mid and 2 Fwd.




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01 Sep 2021 07:50:30
This will give minamini and ox to get some much nedded gametime.





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15 Jul 2022 09:07:44
From last 3 days we are getting 11 july review ed001 @@.


{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I moved home and don't have an internet connection yet other then mobile data. So all I can do at the moment is edit. Fingers crossed it will be sorted soon. }



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25 Jun 2022 05:18:21
Foulnandino left very big boots to fill but i do see Philps doing a reasonable job, He and Rodri with 3 of silva KDB foden with focal as haaland.

I think Pep would do this. Gungdolan, sterling and and Mahrez to call from Bench mot too shabby.




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20 Mar 2022 12:04:25
Gomez matip Konate tsimi

Ox Keita jones

Mina firmino jota/ Origi.




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11 Mar 2022 09:25:04
I am in no way advocating Putin or his action or war. But Ukraine and mainly it’s people are being made scapegoat of a bad game being played by US and it’s Allie’s in NATO

Russia was given assurance NATO will not move into Eastern Europe and Baltic region this is from 1990
was US not ready to go to war during Cuban missile crises

But they have been slowly bribing their ARMs and weapons to Russias neighbourhood.

They gave the muppet a silly reason to go to war with Ukraine

Ukraine is been just made a very poor example of power play between Russia and West.




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21 Jan 2022 02:30:04
Cornet Sarr Denis S. Maxim Cantwell M. Aarons.