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07 Jan 2022 04:51:45
Is Origi on list of potential incoming for Newcastle?
Also seen Philips being tracked by PL Teams.

bhav_reds

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Newcastle for Origi. There is interest in Phillips but the asking price is an issue.}


1.) 07 Jan 2022 09:28:52
Is 15m OTT? Nat has proven himself as a solid, non nonsense defender who will not need any bedding into the EPL.


2.) 07 Jan 2022 09:39:59
In this day and age 15m is a steal for Nat, solid no nonsense premier league defender. Newcastle need a centre back with his qualities.


3.) 07 Jan 2022 09:51:40
They’re welcome to go and find another young English centre back with premier league and champions league experience for less than £15m if they want.


4.) 07 Jan 2022 09:52:42
24 year old who's barely played double figures in games, is 5th choice, who other clubs know wants out and also these clubs know we need to sell before we can buy. People need to stop thinking about £15m, we will not get near that. Take £10m and run.


5.) 07 Jan 2022 10:02:12
And therein lies the problem.
He wants to play regular football.
Liverpool need money.
He’s 5th choice centreback.
And all the other clubs know that.


6.) 07 Jan 2022 10:07:17
They’ve offered £7m, we want £15, they’re desperate for defenders, there’s a balance to be struck there somewhere, where’s David Dickinson when you need him eh?


7.) 07 Jan 2022 10:10:31
Where is the asking price of £15m on the official LFC website? I had a look but couldn’t find it anywhere.


8.) 07 Jan 2022 10:23:18
Apparently it’s the widely rumoured asking price.


9.) 07 Jan 2022 10:28:02
I see no reason why he should be allowed to leave for less. He recently signed a new deal, is English and has proven himself at the highest level. So what if he is 5th choice, that's 5th choice at Liverpool but 1st choice somewhere else. Championship centre backs move £10m, why should we take less just becaise we have to sell to buy.


10.) 07 Jan 2022 10:50:17
Didn’t Chelsea’s backup kiddies go for 25M or so? I don’t think fifth choice is justification for a Low price. He is worth whatever people are willing to pay.


11.) 07 Jan 2022 10:52:13
Makes me laugh, when we buy we should pay the price but when clubs fail to meet our asking price we’re pricing the player out of a move. £15 m isn’t a lot of money for a proven English cb.


12.) 07 Jan 2022 10:58:21
If 15m is a rumour or not it’s peanuts for a solid defender like Nat! I love the lad gives it his all hope he gets his move and becomes a top player!
Players could learn a lot from him he’s no snow flake and makes a show of some of these over paid pretty boys! He’s one reason we are in the champs league this season too!
Stand up and be counted “ Nat Philips where’s the F#%#%% ladder “.


13.) 07 Jan 2022 11:09:00
I doubt we will see any departures until the C.V. outbreak is over. Will need all available players possible.


14.) 07 Jan 2022 11:51:35
Newcastle just paid £12m for a regular England international who played in teams that got to the World Cup semi and the Euro final and was a regular member of a team that has just won La Ligament.

A tad more impressive CV than Nat’s (albeit I don”t rate Trippier) .

Not saying I agree with the view but you can see why sections of society who don’t support Liverpool might think our rumoured asking price is a bit steep.


15.) 07 Jan 2022 11:52:06
If Maguire is worth £75m then Nat is worth at the very least £15m! I don’t see why anyone would criticise the club for not allowing us to have our pants pulled down on every transfer.


16.) 07 Jan 2022 12:12:44
In fairness, Trippier is 32 this year and on the way down career wise, so not really much of a comparison, I think it’s fairer to compare Phillips to Michael Keane or someone like that.


17.) 07 Jan 2022 12:15:49
We've over priced average players in the past. Harry Wilson a prime example.

But Phillips is different. He is at least as good as Ben White and the only reason it's not being talked about at £50m is because he doesn't get media hype or a good FIFA card.

I've seen Michael Keane, James Tarkowski, Harry Maguire, Ben White, Fikayo Tomori and many others all talked about as £30m+ players in recent years. So don't kid us Liverpool fans that Phillips is worth less than half of them.

£15m is an absolute bargain and if Newcastle aren't happy with that price, they can go and get an absolute waster like Nathan Ake for £40m if they want.


18.) 07 Jan 2022 12:25:39
West derby wanderer trippier is 31, Phillips is 24 and yes might not have the cv that trippier has but that doesn’t mean he won’t go on and achieve things getting regular football. 15m for a young English cb is a bargain, let’s not fool ourselves. And I’m the same breath I’d snap their hand off at the 7m rumoured fee for origi.


19.) 07 Jan 2022 12:40:42
This conversation is pointless. His value is only as much as someone is willing to pay for him. That may be considered a good or overinflated price but that is all that matters. What Man u or Newcastle paid for Maguire or Trippier is completely irrelevant.


20.) 07 Jan 2022 13:04:17
Exactly Potclay.


21.) 07 Jan 2022 13:26:55
It is not irrelevant though as that creates a market whereby value is determined/ compared. So if you go Tesco and pay £2 for a bunch of bananas but they're 50p in Aldi, is that irrelevant? No, you would be asking why they are so different in price.


22.) 07 Jan 2022 14:18:32
Phillips has not looked out of place in our lineup in over two years. The only reason why he isn't getting more minutes is the obvious one, and that's that we have a crowded defense. 15M for a guy who is dependable and can start, has HG status, is of prime age, on low wages, and is coming from a winning culture does not seem unreasonable to me.


23.) 07 Jan 2022 14:50:11
If he was worth £15m some team somewhere would have paid it on the 1st of January. He's only worth what others are prepared to pay for him.


24.) 07 Jan 2022 14:58:38
"They’re welcome to go and find another young English centre back with premier league and champions league experience for less than £15m if they want. "

I am sure United would offload Maguire for less.


25.) 07 Jan 2022 16:51:40
Damn right too Harry the RED. I'd rather have Phillips at the back than Maguire. One can defend, and one survives on a fabricated reputation only.


26.) 07 Jan 2022 17:34:17
James Pearce is the journalist who reported the asking price at 15 mill.

Personally I would have thought we would have a few teams in for him at that price. As it stands he’s still here so although us fans including myself rate him at 15 mill plus. Perhaps the premier league managers don’t 🤷🏻‍♂️

I suppose only time will tell.


27.) 07 Jan 2022 19:50:44
The lads never looked out of place when called upon but there are definitely a few red tinted specs in these comments. He’s a good player, from what we’ve seen, he’s English and 24, yes, but he’s not really played masses of amounts of football at the top level, he is not getting much game time at us now, and we’re in need of money. £15 million would be a great price for us, but I suspect we’ll have to come down on our asking price and maybe include add ons. Besides, it’s never good being seen as a club that will let players careers stagnate.


28.) 07 Jan 2022 20:56:33
Cruyff turn … 20 mill minimum 😁.


29.) 07 Jan 2022 22:50:00
stuie_boy, to use your analogy of the bananas. There are many circumstances where a shopper would buy the £2 ones and equally refuse the 50p ones.

I'm desperate for bananas, I've got nothing else in and I desperately need some. Time is ticking and the shops are closing soon = £2. I'm looking at the bananas for 50p, they look a bit bruised, I've already got some other fruit in the house and to be honest I spent most of my money on something else earlier in the week. I think I'll pass on bananas this time.

The point is and has always been, what a club is willing to spend on buying a player. We had some Coutinho bananas and sold them at Harrods prices. We now have some Philips bananas and they are pretty good bananas but for some reason we can't shift them, that's how it goes. What previous or future bananas may go for only effect your offer price, only when you actually sell your bananas can you categorically say that they are worth what they are worth.

On a final note, I don't really like bananas.


30.) 08 Jan 2022 13:02:39
For £15 million, you don't normally get players that have played masses amount of top level PL games. That is the point, Nat has had half a season and done really well in the PL. If he had played a mass amount of games he would clearly go for a lot more?


31.) 08 Jan 2022 20:02:32
Alright! Enough with the haggling. You've brought back memories of my youth, going shopping with my Mother (you have no idea what shopping with an Asian mother is like) .

Can we settle at 12.5 Million and move on? (I think we're going to see somewhat depressed prices everywhere for the next 1-2 years - at least until CV after effects are gone. Of course, the best, the top of the cream players, will remain mostly unaffected; that's how it is in every business) .


 

 

12 Aug 2021 07:43:52
Is Shaq on his way to Lyon? I heard issue is difference of 2M Euros in valuation.
Surely can be met between

All the best to him if he leaves. gave us some good moments and frees up a squad place.

bhav_reds

1.) 12 Aug 2021 09:06:35
I couldn't believe the club had gone down to a final price of 8 million Euros. For a player with 96 caps and that magic left wand of a foot? Granted he didn't play often for us, but there's no questioning the skill and talent.

And then I said to myself, it's either take the 8 million now and use the money to grow the future, or get nothing next summer when he walks away for free. The Wijnaldum lesson has been learnt well.


2.) 12 Aug 2021 09:21:13
He’s had a lot of injury issues and at 29 there’s a lot of risk on the buying club, so it’s understandable that they’d make a lower offer.


3.) 12 Aug 2021 09:32:30
I also think his public flirtation with Lazio has angered the club. So they said, get rid at the best price possible. He's done this (angered the club) everywhere he's gone in the past.


4.) 12 Aug 2021 09:36:43
And CV.

I did wonder whether Shaq may be part of a deal for Aouar, but obvs not.


5.) 12 Aug 2021 09:38:23
I think it’s a good fee for player that’s injured a lot and hasn’t set the world a light
Here . wish him well.


6.) 12 Aug 2021 09:53:48
Its a miracle lyon can pay 6million even.


7.) 12 Aug 2021 10:09:11
He holds one of the none HG spots as well as big wages so I think its a good move, We only paid £13m or so for him. So with C.V. his injury record over the last 2 season his age it's not a bad deal. He wants out to play more and that is not going to happen here and with the stage of his career you can't blame him.


8.) 12 Aug 2021 10:44:48
Although he's agreed on terms with them he will not be sold unless OL increases their offer of €6m with add-ons. We apparently want another €2m but I think a set of add-ons that'll take it realistically up might do the job. He has his heart set on moving to OL. I honestly thought he had his heart set on Lazio two weeks ago. Good luck to him wherever he ends up as even he can see that Elliot will play his former role this coming year.


9.) 12 Aug 2021 12:14:52
In this market, if Grealish is a 100mm and Shaqiri is 6m. The world has gone bonkers.


10.) 12 Aug 2021 12:39:33
The transfer market values aren't driven by talent, rather they're driven by how much a team wants a player.


11.) 12 Aug 2021 12:49:29
As well as so many other factors like age, past record, length of contract, injury record etc etc.


12.) 12 Aug 2021 13:41:52
I love Big Shaq but sadly he wasn't used more than I'd like. So, its probably time to bid farewell and that's probably the best for both club and player. I wish him all the best, wherever he ends up. He'll still be part of the Liverpool family and history.


13.) 12 Aug 2021 13:49:02
I'd rather keep him than spend £40+ on Sanchez. I mean, Is Sanchez (assuming that's who we're going for) really that much better with all things considered? I'd rather the club utilised the squad for this season and saved up for next year or when we can afford our number one targets. Shaq is not that bad a player, but Keita would be the first out the door for me.


14.) 12 Aug 2021 17:25:08
I have never liked her music she is married to Gerard Piqué :-)


 

 

02 Oct 2020 05:15:23
Brewster offers from Shef utd Fulham and Cystal palace.
H. WILSON burley
Gurjic goadbach and hertha berlin . ?

Ed's any other player heading out?

bhav_reds

{Ed002's Note - Possibly Shaqiri and some fringe players.}


1.) 02 Oct 2020 09:13:14
Brewster off to Sheffield Utd. Looks a good deal for all parties.
If we can get Wilson, Shaq and Grujic off the books as well, maybe a CB can come in (the thought of VVD getting injured gives me nightmares)


2.) 02 Oct 2020 09:57:51
Origi staying?


 

 

19 Jul 2020 04:22:21
Fraser Hendricks M Longstaff Willian all possible free agents . any interest in them as we are broke this summer?

bhav_reds

{Ed0666's Note - We don’t padfill the squad anymore mate with players just for the sake of it. We have youth players all comparable to all of the players you mention. And free doesn’t mean free mate because Bosman’s aren’t cheap when you add up the signing on fee, agent fee, wages etc etc.


1.) 19 Jul 2020 10:11:55
Sweet jeebus 🤦🏻‍♂️.


2.) 19 Jul 2020 10:40:37
Is that Jeff Hendricks? Christ.


3.) 19 Jul 2020 12:39:28
Matty Longstaff is a decent young player. Not sure he's better than Leighton Clarkson.

Personally i'd rather Elliott than Fraser, Jones than Hendricks, and Brewster than Willian.

They are all good players bhav_reds, but i think we need better than just "good players".


4.) 19 Jul 2020 12:44:09
could do with a comma there mate.
I'm with ed there. our squad is massive as it is. We all understand where the weak spots are but we can't just be adding more players. I mean dang, just cos there are no fans doesn't mean we need to help the situation and put more players in the stands to watch.


5.) 19 Jul 2020 17:23:37
The only one of those that I'd have is maybe Matty Longstaff, as he plays a different role in the midfield than Curtis Jones, and Pedro Chiravella is undoubtedly leaving.

I just doubt that he'd want to come considering how limited his minutes would be initially.

Personally, I think he'd be mad to leave Newcastle right now, just as they're going to have big cheques flying around for top talent just as his professional career is kicking off.


6.) 19 Jul 2020 21:25:05
Hendricks? We'd be as well to field a nice free range hen and decapitate it as we kick off.


7.) 21 Jul 2020 21:51:28
Willian is decent and as we’ve seen over the past few games we need goals. We create the most chances but take too few. I had hoped we’d get a striker and cb in drop firmino in behind the striker and a solid cb pairing is a must. I like gomez and matip but to improve we need another good cb. Also if we want to be silly and throw names out there I’d like to see Jack grealish at Liverpool. Pretty much carrying villa ove to see what he could do in a better team.


 

 

29 May 2018 04:31:48
Fabinho Joins.

bhav_reds

1.) 29 May 2018 06:19:17
Very very pleased, not because I’ve seen much of him, but because we finally have a proper alternative to Hendo at no.6 at last. I think this gives us a huge amount of flexibility to control games we might have struggled in in the past.

As a bonus he can also cover effectively for Trent.

If we can get in Fekir now to cover wide attacking positions (and AM), and can bring in a top GK I think we are 95% of the way there.

I think this is a big big statement that Klopp is positioning to be more tactically flexible, and learning that closing out scrappy games in the Pl is a critical part of winning the title.

Excited already for the new season.


2.) 29 May 2018 08:53:36
Yep I'm thrilled about this one as well. Not just a replacement for but an upgrade on Emre. Along with Keita and Fekir (or whoever) this will add great depth and flexibility to or midfield. The English lads and Gini will have a job just to get into the team now. He's young, versatile, hard-working, scores goals, not going to the World Cup and of course he knows Bobby from Brazil and who could think of a better guy to help you get settled into life on Merseyside? Great signing and a lovely surprise to wake up to this morning. I really think he'll help us make that step up to the next level.


 

 

 

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23 Dec 2021 10:45:08
With seemigly D. Ali and E. Nketia available on cut prices should we be going for them. both are english and young and potential to be better. can replace Noby and origi in the squad.

bhav_reds

1.) 23 Dec 2021 11:02:32
Wouldn’t want Dele Ali anywhere near us.


2.) 23 Dec 2021 11:06:12
Behave*.


3.) 23 Dec 2021 11:14:55
No thanks to either of them. Alli is just as bad as Keita. If not worst, both in attitude and performance.

Nketiah is not going to leave Arsenal's bench to sit on Liverpool's bench. He is not as good as Origi either.


4.) 23 Dec 2021 11:15:54
Dele absolutely no chance I want him anywhere near our club.
Not seen enough of nketia but there seems to be a lot of high praise in the game for him, could be worth a punt?


5.) 23 Dec 2021 11:19:11
Agree with neketiah, the guy could be a real klopp type player with the right coaching i think!

He won me and sunderland the champions league in football manager as well!


6.) 23 Dec 2021 11:32:04
Arsenal have Some very good young players. These are not them. Martinelli and Smith Rowe, that’s where the potential is.


7.) 23 Dec 2021 11:36:05
Alli? No. Peaked when he was 21 and is now squandering his talent by being not bothered.

Nketiah has potential but needs to play regularly at this point his career (he's 22), and he wouldn't play regularly for us as things stand. Playing the amount of footie Origi or Minamino currently play for us wouldn't be enough imo. It'd be a case of buy him, send him loan possibly until the end of next season until a player or two has moved on and there's room for him to get game time.

I wouldn't be mad against it per se, there are worse ways we could spend the money, but a lot would depend on how his loan moves go.


8.) 23 Dec 2021 12:02:58
Such a shame to see Dele Allis early promise wasted. All that talent and no application.


9.) 23 Dec 2021 12:16:13
Dele Ali noooooooooooo😡.


10.) 23 Dec 2021 17:01:12
MKS, I was going to say the exact same thing. You beat me to it.


11.) 23 Dec 2021 17:03:21
Isn't Dele Ali a huge fan of the club though? Maybe that plus Klopp, would see him regain the form he once had?


12.) 23 Dec 2021 19:04:25
Can't stand deli Ali. Worst hair cut I've ever seen. Lol.

{Ed0666's Note - worse than Peter Beardleys? I like Deli Ali’s hair it’s super cool. I love the pink bits.


13.) 23 Dec 2021 21:03:49
I've seen signs recently that Ali is trying to re-discover that spark. I don't think it's too late for him with the right coach (no prizes for guessing who) but I do think we'd be priced out of it.
As he's now older and a bit more mature, I think his attitude could well improve drastically at the right club.


14.) 23 Dec 2021 21:52:01
Based solely on observation from afar and having no insider knowledge, it seems the biggest blocker to Ali at a stage when he could have kicked into a genuinely good player was Mourinho. Didn’t like him, wouldn’t pick him and critical of his performances in the media on the odd occasion he gave him a game. I actually feel sorry for the lad.

From our perspective we have better players and prospects coming through.

I think it’s a bit of MOTD fever with Nketiah (sp? ) . With due respect to the opposition they were not exactly top drawer.


 

 

30 Aug 2021 09:07:52
Few fwds will be available from our rivals for cut price.

Lacazate, daniel jamea and M. Kean

Looks like all 3 clubs are looking for buyer.

We should take punt on lacazette as short term. adding auror on loan.

bhav_reds

1.) 30 Aug 2021 09:14:46
Its a very good suggestion lacazette. But i doubt arsenal would sell to us.
Also it will be very short term. Arteta has killed lacazette. He was a brilliant striker.


2.) 30 Aug 2021 09:18:01
If that's the best lot available in the market, I'd rather take a punt on Kaide Gordon and Musialowski who have brilliant potential.
We are trying to move squad players on, not add more of them.


3.) 30 Aug 2021 09:32:03
Now that Ronaldo has gone to Utd, what about a cheeky bid for Cavani.


4.) 30 Aug 2021 10:03:22
Lacazette is awful.


5.) 30 Aug 2021 10:05:09
Bring back Suarez, its worth the risk.


6.) 30 Aug 2021 13:17:25
Akira’s desperation for a shiny new toy, is becoming the stuff of legends. Lacazette? Yeah, legendary indeed.


 

 

11 Aug 2021 00:54:45
Gm everyone. are we interested in Doku. if yes have we registered the same with his agent or current club?
Would be a good addition if around 20m.

bhav_reds

{Ed002's Note - 20M what?


1.) 11 Aug 2021 01:01:57
Turkish Lira?


2.) 11 Aug 2021 06:08:39
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?


3.) 11 Aug 2021 07:38:30
Maybe m&m's . Rennes will accept nothing less than 20,000,000 red and yellow m&m's not one less, and certainly not in peanut ones! What could you possibly get with 20,000,000 peanut m&m's? , madness that's what!


4.) 11 Aug 2021 08:32:45
A lot of rap songs!


5.) 11 Aug 2021 03:03:47
Ok would he be a good addition at the price his currenr club rennes is looking for?

Are we interested in him and contacted the club or his agent.

{Ed002's Note - His club are not looking to sell him. Liverpool have sustained interest and he has visited the club as a kiddie. A move elsewhere would be more likely next year.}


 

 

06 Aug 2021 05:01:43
Hi Ed have liverpool looked at berge and anguissa recently. both fairly cheap and have premier league exp. also Sabitizer and Auror represent good value at 20-25M being mentioned. hopefully we get some funds by selling Origi Shaq mina and Philips or Davies.

bhav_reds

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 06 Aug 2021 10:22:28
None of them are anywhere near good enough for us, especially the likes of Berge. This is not FIFA, where you sign any player that fits within your budget and can make work no matter the actual ability of the player. The likes of Sabitzer, Berge and Anguissa are mediocre compared to the likes of Fabinho and Thiago.


2.) 06 Aug 2021 14:04:32
LoweLFC, I actually rate Anguissa.


3.) 06 Aug 2021 15:32:22
Sabitzer is not mediocre what a load of rubbish.


4.) 06 Aug 2021 20:33:53
If Sabitzer is going cheap, Bayern will Hoover him up. Odds on.


 

 

04 Aug 2021 03:07:11
We can only sign non home grown players after we atlesst have verbal agreement to sell one from current squad. most likelyhood 2 or all 3 of Shaq Origi and Mina would be sold. leaving 3 space in the squad. then we will see incoming.

bhav_reds

1.) 04 Aug 2021 05:39:51
Thus spoke Zarathustra.


2.) 04 Aug 2021 06:39:50
Not Necessarily. We can sign and then not include Origi or Shaqiri in the squad if you couldn’t offload them. We can’t depend on Origi and Shaqiri to leave for someone to come in.


3.) 04 Aug 2021 07:12:00
Yes sinwave! Great shout! 150k a week (7.8mil a year) up the swanny for 2 players we can’t include in the team. Now that is financial genius! You should write to Micky Edwards and share your genius plan!


4.) 04 Aug 2021 07:25:43
Sinwave, in theory the club can do that but as all the Rds have repeatedly said the club is skint. No way do they sign a non HG player and leave another sitting kicking his heels on full pay for 5 months. No way to run a business.


5.) 04 Aug 2021 07:50:31
You don't get it. do you? Those two are not wanted. period. it doesn't matter if they are on a wage or not. Edwards is the one who gave Origi a 5-year contract which is why we are struggling today.
so what do you reckon instead? we keep waiting until someone turns up and buys our fringe players for us to sign a new player lol.
what if they are sold on the last day lol. we should conclude our incomings for Klopp to start working with them.


6.) 04 Aug 2021 08:21:44
When you say “our” fringe players sinwave/ Harry you mean our players as in Liverpool supporters! You don’t get it do you.


7.) 04 Aug 2021 08:39:31
What if we can't sell them sinwave? We carry the extra wages? Then next transfer season if our new signing doesn't work out the way you like, you put him aside and carry his extra wage too? The players mentioned are not bad players. We can't sell then we have to use them.

Not having a go here. I badly want a new cm. But we can't take the risks you mention when the business is under financial strain. You have to act responsibly.


8.) 04 Aug 2021 09:14:01
Sinwave, I have to say you are spot on, I don’t get ‘it’. I simply have no idea what you are on about at all.

Wasting money on players who aren’t included in the squad is, economically speaking, absolutely, totally stupid. It DOES matter because we don’t have money to waste or spend at the moment.

Banging on about contracts that were agreed years ago is completely irrelevant - it has happened, it is history, move on. You could say that the club has learned it’s lesson - we aren’t handing out many contracts outside of the existing squad are we
?

All that said, I love your posts, they certainly are thought provoking - keep up the good work.


9.) 04 Aug 2021 09:15:01
What position does Zarathustra play ArAy?

{Ed001's Note - he changed the game mate, took it from many up top, to just one up top. Now there is a gag so obscure no one will get it.}


10.) 04 Aug 2021 09:29:29
Origi and shakiri can go on loan if we can't shift them in order to bring non home grown players if needed. It's not that difficult. Think people are over-thinking and over-reacting and clinging on every small things to suit their agenda.

{Ed001's Note - you have to find someone willing to loan them that they are willing to join.}


11.) 04 Aug 2021 09:32:18
Wow this page has gone up several intellectual notches.
I admit I had to Google it though 🤣🤣.

{Ed001's Note - does a gag even work when everyone has to google it to figure it out?}


12.) 04 Aug 2021 09:34:56
Klopp would have made it absolutely clear who he wishes to keep and who is surplus. the rest lies with the club and the player's agent to find a new home.
We have to sell them or loan them to another club and omit them from the squad. The club shouldn't be in this position in the first place.
I cannot believe Liverpool FC is waiting for two fringe players to be sold to sign one.


13.) 04 Aug 2021 09:52:30
Ed1 mate if we are willing to loan them out don't you think they will have many suitors to take them? Think Midtable teams won't have problem paying their wages and acquiring their services where Origi and Shaq will have opportunities to play consistently.

{Ed001's Note - why would anyone want to take Shaq? He can't stay fit. And which club would consider Origi when he is desperate to stay here?}


14.) 04 Aug 2021 10:01:34
I doubt anyone would touch Origi with bare hands. The guy hasn't stepped his foot inside the football pitch for nearly an year. we should take the money and run if we get any.


15.) 04 Aug 2021 10:18:11
Harry would you give it a rest with the whinging and moaning about the club and the players.


16.) 04 Aug 2021 10:28:20
Without joining in this eruditious debate may I remind everyone that, last summer, Marko Grujic came within minutes of being a surplus, highly paid but non-playing member of our club before Mr. Edwards pulled a loan move to Porto out of the hat.


17.) 04 Aug 2021 10:38:56
In fairness we are paying them to sit on a bench and play little to no football. So paying them the same to sit in the stand to play no football isn’t that much of a difference.


18.) 04 Aug 2021 10:41:11
The best thing about signing a player like Zarathustra is that if he doesn't work out, you can always sell him on for a prophet.


19.) 04 Aug 2021 10:52:41
Good point to be fair JK23. But at least while they're sitting on the bench they're available to be used. I don't blame the players not wanting to take a paycut because who would?


20.) 04 Aug 2021 11:25:02
Thought teams like soton, west ham, Norwich, Watford, Brentford, etc would've snapped our hands to have that kind of experience in their team without taking any risks in-terms of transfer fee. Jesse Lingard didn't do that bad at west ham. Origi is a good player when he plays consistently and has unbelievable eye for goals tho.


21.) 04 Aug 2021 11:56:58
Clearly, Harry has either NO idea how complicated these things are or he simply does not care. The fact that he just said we should not include both guys in the squad and just pay them to do nothing (just like Utd have done with Phil Jones for years) is testament to this.

Phil Jones hasn't left Utd for a reason. No club would pay his wages and cos he is crap. Origi and Shaq actually have offers BUT just maybe if the club stopped pricing them out of moves then maybe we would get somewhere BUT that is not what Harry is here for, is it?

And please Harry, stop lecturing LFC fans about anything cos you sir, are NOT an LFC fan so keep your lectures to yourself cos a lot of us stopped caring about what you actually think a LONG while ago.


22.) 04 Aug 2021 12:31:01
Sorry, Ed001 and fellow posters. Not my fault if I was paying attention in class, like 50 years ago. And the rest of you have you were busy playing pocket billiards. Obscure? Hardly obscure. You all learnt something new. Beats reading about Ed0666's and Barry's bromance any day of the week. 😉😂.


23.) 04 Aug 2021 12:56:51
So, we are in a major public health crisis, EPL clubs will double their losses this financial year, the French League is near collapse, and perennial stalwarts like Barcelona and Real Madrid are in financial disarray, to name just a few examples. And here we are, being told that a club (anywhere on the footballing globe) doesn't care if a player is "on a wage or not". Theatre of the truly absurd.


24.) 04 Aug 2021 13:02:03
Jack that’s like saying he scored all his winning goals in the last minute. You either succeed in your job or you don’t and clearly Edwards succeeded with that loan.


25.) 04 Aug 2021 13:28:39
Oh mane mane that’s very true mate. As they say money makes the world go round and as someone else correctly pointed out would we as fans leave a job for less money. The answer to this would almost certainly be no every time. The only way for me the answer would be yes would be if the circumstances meant 1. I was moving job to do something I actually loved (in their case to actually play football week In week out) and 2. Money was no object as I was already made for life and my new job was offering more than what 95% of everyone else in the world earns a week despite it being less than what I’m currently on.

I’m sorry I love football but any footballer who is defended on not taking a pay cut to play week in week out over pay is just an excuse. When you look at the grand scheme of things it might mean a player earns 10 million pounds over 4 years rather than 12 million pounds. Everyone should just let that sink in.


26.) 04 Aug 2021 13:55:56
1jj, must have been something in the wording, I fully agree on Edwards, I think the guy is a genius, I was pointing out how close we are to the repeat situation, albeit with 27 days to go.


27.) 04 Aug 2021 17:48:20
I'm not defending them JK23 but I do understand their reluctance to move. Origi for example has 1 year left on the big contract given to him after the CL final and will be 26, with no fee to be paid for him so can look for bigger wages again next summer. Me personally I'd sooner play but everyone is different.

{Ed001's Note - that's not why Origi doesn't want to leave. He loves it in Liverpool, it has become his home and he loves the club, it has become the club he supports. He is settled and happy. Not every player just chases money.}


28.) 04 Aug 2021 18:32:41
If Origi wants to stay at the club he now loves and supports and in the city he loves and is settled in then, what the problem? Ed02 said that if there is no offer for him, the club will keep him. He seems to be well loved and respected in the DR by the coaches and players and Klopp will never push him out. I’m cool with it especially since he is actually doing good charity work in the city.


29.) 04 Aug 2021 18:49:08
Don't misunderstand me Ed I'm not saying he's "chasing money". As OliRed says he does a lot of good charity work in the city so any drop in income could affect that side of his life. That's what I meant by getting a bigger wage because, like Mane in Senegal, Divock gives back. And if he wants to stay and use a portion of his dosh for that then I personally have no problem with it.


30.) 05 Aug 2021 07:48:15
Oh mane mane sorry mate I didn’t mean to imply that you were defending them. I just meant in general when fans say it. I’m a further note great to hear Origi does lots of charity work and i tip my hat to him.


 

 

 

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07 Jan 2022 04:48:25
Move Adrian and Karius, Neco, Philips, VDB Or Rhy, Keita, Ox, Mina, Origi.

In 2 mid and 2 Fwd.

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01 Sep 2021 07:50:30
This will give minamini and ox to get some much nedded gametime.

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25 Aug 2021 16:17:03
Barca and utd.

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21 Aug 2021 04:43:53
If you can give details. they want for 6M euros and we want around 10M?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want €15M and Lyon value him at less than half of that.}


 

 

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09 Aug 2021 13:57:24
Its chelsea and morabia.

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Cornet Sarr Denis S. Maxim Cantwell M. Aarons.

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17 Jan 2022 11:43:54
In fsg time we have lost europa league final . champs league final. premier league by 1 point. and i think couple of other finals


They have kept us competitive and unlucky CV hit. or else we would be still much better off.

We have 40M OX, 55M keita, 35M Jota and 25M thiago who would be on bench when all are fit.

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23 Dec 2021 10:46:51
Play 4 youngsters. 4 squad players and 3 startes
Like what ge did yesterday.

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15 Dec 2021 01:27:43
We were top or near at dec start last year then it fell apart.

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25 Oct 2021 01:50:55
We stopped at 5 . thinking if we score more higher the chances of OGS to leave United. we need our 13th man.

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