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22 May 2023 15:04:55
I just want to give a massive congratulations to City for their domination and likely ongoing successes.

It obviously has nothing to do with the $2BN spent over Pep's time, or the numerous accusations and cases against them for FFP irregularities.

Joking aside for a moment, I think we should note that the only team able to beat them over a season over the last 6 years was LFC, on a fraction of the budget, and that should say it all in terms of Klopp and the clubs over achievement, while at the same time continuing to invest in the infrastructure of Anfield and the training facilities.

The reality is that LFC cannot compete financially with City, Newcastle, Utd, Chelsea and perhaps even Arsenal they way they have been spending over the last couple of windows. But, in my opinion, we do have the best overall coach out there suitable for LFC. So, regardless of whether you feel we should spend more and blame FSG for that, or blame Pep Linders for a change in tactics, or blame Tierney for being, well Tierney! etc etc, let's all get behind the Manager, the team, the club as a whole and make Anfield a noisy fortress again next season.

YNWA.

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1.) 22 May 2023 15:29:57
Just imagine the force we could be if we actually had owners who were obsessed with being top dogs on all fronts even to the extent of the women dominating, best youth set up, best manager, players and ultimately a bottomless pit of shiny gleaming money . Somebody save us!


2.) 22 May 2023 15:34:11
I was listening to 5live on Saturday and they were trying to say Pep is a genius as he’s never signed any players that are the best in their position other than Haaland. They used Akanje as the proof.
Apparently most in this City team were unknowns until Pep made them into world class players.
They obviously forgot about Ederson, Diaz, Walker, Stones, De Bruyne, Gundogan, Silva, Mahrez, Grealish, Philips, Cancelo, Mendy, Ake, Aguero, D Silva, each of whom cost between £50m and £100m and were very well known as top, top players before they went to City!
Honestly I had to turn it off the media just make stuff up to suit their agenda it’s absolutely ridiculous!


3.) 22 May 2023 16:28:06
Let's be honest, Guardiola is the best coach in this era. Yes, he's got the luxury of resources at City and can afford to make recruitment mistakes but the level of consistency and hunger to win year after year is relentless and he should be respected for that.

I don't like him personally and don't imagine he's a barrel of fun to be around.

But you cannot argue with his ability to coach teams and keep the intensity levels up year after year.

As for City, the club - they are relentless in their pursuit of accumulating a new history of success and at the moment, nothing seems to be able to stop them - even as many as 115 allegations of cheating. They have the financial power to lock you up in legal processes for years - by which time they will have kept accumulating silverware.

I see they are even trying to win the Net Spend trophy these days. A great excuse for fans to finally drop Net Spend as a measure of investment.


4.) 22 May 2023 16:46:26
You really can’t separate Pep from the financial resources.

Could Pep have won titles with Spurs and their resources…. With Klopp and others as contenders?

No way of knowing of course but I suspect Klopp would have a couple more trophy’s on the winner’s wall at Anfield.

Pep is a first rate coach but he has always had the most resources in each club he managed.

Would mean more if he coached and won at Borussia Dortmund and LFC.


5.) 22 May 2023 17:04:16
Spot on Tommy!


6.) 22 May 2023 17:05:03
Regardless of what City have or haven't done in terms of financial doping, I just feel the fun has gone out of the PL these days. Even when United dominated the league, it was still fun, as you had other teams winning cups etc. These days, even if City are 10 points behind and losing a game 2-0, you just know that they will come back and win that match and then eventually close the gap on whoever is leading.
At no point did I ever think City wouldn't win the title this year. I didn't even take notice that the title race was over, whereas previously it was an exciting time of the season, even if Liverpool weren't involved. All just feels a bit boring.


7.) 22 May 2023 17:30:23
I think this arsenal collapse when they had no other competitions to play really puts our two second places in perspective. On both occasions we were fighting on multiple fronts till the end and took it to the last game with over 90 points.

Particularly last year. Yes we didn’t win it all but to get where we did, and push that city team to the limit, took a phenomenal effort.


8.) 22 May 2023 17:41:43
It was only a few months ago City were having an off season like us.

Gracious in Victory and gracious in defeat I have to say City are a hell of a team and Pep is hell of a coach. He’s basically got 9 outfield players outplaying 10 every week and allowing Haaland to be the tip of the spear.

He’s also turned Grealish the countries most selfish player into a team player.

Pep is world class but Jurgen is my manager and I wouldn’t swap them for the world.


9.) 22 May 2023 18:12:31
Would guardiola have won what Jurgen has won under this ownership model? For me not a chance!

{Ed002's Note - Which ownership model is that.}


10.) 22 May 2023 18:17:52
Spot on wassa. As good a post as I've read.


11.) 22 May 2023 18:18:17
Tommy is right. You can't separate Pep's achievements from the financial resources that he has had at his disposal. Resources that he was not entitled to. I'm not a criminalogist by any means but cheating is a mild word considering the financial consequences (winning titles) of using those resources. Fraud is a more apt word.

Top manager? Definitely. Top tactician and strategist? Also definitely, even to the extent of overdoing it from time to time. Personality? Seems to be a cool guy, he smiles a lot in comparison to others. Straight, upstanding guy? Definitely not.


12.) 22 May 2023 19:15:43
They will spend yet again and probably land the best defensive midfielder on the planet in Kimmich.
Kimmich Rodri and De Bruyne. Vs Mason Mount ?
We cannot expect to compete at all, I think they’ll do back to back Trebles myself.
But one things for sure. It’s damaging the Premier League to see the lack of true fans when they win the title every year and nobody is even there, it’s very very bad and it’s turning it into a second rate championship.


13.) 22 May 2023 19:23:39
Pep has a winning mentality which he translates really well onto his team. He is relentless as are the teams he coaches.
However, it’s very easy to have a winning mentality when you know you have the best players in the league to call on. When you know that if someone drops their levels you can just get rid and replace them with the best out there.
It’s very easy to be relentless when there are no limits to who you can bring through the door.
It’s very easy to keep your players’ desire at the top level when they know they can easily be replaced no matter how good they have been.
You could say that Pep is a great tactician but is he? No matter what tactics he employs they will win the vast majority of games so he can experiment freely, knowing that more often than not the sheer talent of his players will see him through.


14.) 22 May 2023 19:31:40
Tommy is right. You can't seperate the spending power of City from Pep. He has always had the best team even when he was coaching the Barcelona B team who played in their league with the best talents the world has ever seen vs teams who had nowhere near that quality. I think it's the reason why you can't judge him cos it seems like he has to have the best team in order to even take a job. It's how he rolls and if he's going to keep doing that then, he should be ready for the smoke that comes with people diminishing his accomplishments.


15.) 22 May 2023 20:04:07
Could Pep do what Klopp did with Dortmund?

Every club he’s been to he’s had virtually unlimited funds. Klopp never had that. He’s done amazing at Liverpool against a club that appears let’s say to be doping financially.


16.) 23 May 2023 02:23:38
To be honest I think if you swapped roles (JK to City and PG to us) and left all other factors as they are the difference would be that we don’t win the League or CL and City win the League for the past 6 seasons and then the CL more than once.


17.) 23 May 2023 10:09:33
Waro, tbf i think Pep would of had people like Keita, Ox etc gone and replaced with others sooner.


 

 

21 Jul 2022 20:15:38
Just to say, I know Nunez will get the headlines, but i also really like the look of the youngsters Carvalho and Elliot - great quality and pace.

Everyone is looking good, great effort in the game, quality all across the park, great back ups in all positions and a great mix of youth, hunger as well as experience with Thiago, Hendo and Milner to keep everyone on a level setting.

Can't wait for the start of the season.

YNWA.

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21 Jul 2022 20:07:51
Well, not sure that Darwin lad is the real deal?

:-)

YNWA.

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1.) 21 Jul 2022 20:15:39
Terrible mate. I wasn’t impressed with him in the first half at all, didn’t touch the ball.


2.) 21 Jul 2022 20:16:12
It’s only per-season ?.


3.) 21 Jul 2022 20:55:58
It’s not just about his goals StEtienne…
Work rate is key to klopps plan.


4.) 22 Jul 2022 03:52:01
Let’s hope Darwin understands English sarcasm and irony in case he reads these comments ?.


 

 

29 May 2022 06:44:55
Morning All,

I know there is a lot of tripe out there from rival fans, who are celebrating our apparent demise, but just let it sink in that we won the double, and were 1 point and 1 goal from a quadruple.

There are supposedly 'big' teams out there who haven't won any trophy for years, so it is important to realise just how far Klopp has taken us in the last 10 years, in a modest financial way compared to peers. The change is incredible and i for one am proud of everything Liverpool FC.

This has been an incredible season and I have loved the ride all the way, and cannot wait for next season to come again because i know it will bring exciting whole hearted footy played the way it should be.

Be proud about the success and how we play.

YNWA.

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1.) 29 May 2022 07:13:15
Brilliant post, OP. The rival fans can do one. Nobody cares or should care about what a sore loser rival fan thinks cos deep down, they wish they were us. An outstanding season by our boys and the coaching staff. Up Da Pool!


2.) 29 May 2022 10:01:47
If other fans are celebrating us losing a cup it's because they have nothing to celebrate. City and Real fans excepted. They deserve to celebrate as we have done twice this season. And we've been entertained up until the last seconds of the season.
Image being us.


 

 

12 Mar 2022 19:35:23
Atwell, what an incompetent twit! The vast majority of the dubious decisions against LFC are where he is the VAR official. It has now become laughable how crap that man is.

For god sake will someone do something about how rubbish our refs are!

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1.) 12 Mar 2022 22:38:52
I don't think we've scored a goal this season when a teams gone down to 10, take it as a blessing in disguise.


2.) 13 Mar 2022 04:23:02
Liverpool have scored 3 goals playing against 10 men this season 🤦🏼‍♂️.


3.) 13 Mar 2022 08:19:45
Wonder had Luis headed it wide would there have been a different call?


4.) 13 Mar 2022 13:09:11
Oh, and no one is mentioning how Bissouma didn’t get sent off for a second yellow card after he purposely slapped the Naby shot on goal away with his arm.


 

 

 

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02 Oct 2022 16:16:48
Nice try Drogie/ Ed2, but there are too many snowflakes out there who don't have the brains to really understand and who are intent on simply blaming the owners.

What everyone should be doing is having trust in a manager who has performed miracles for several years and owners who saved the club from oblivion and returned it to the top table across every competition.

I for one trust the manager, coaches and players to turn this this tough phase around (noting that this tough phase is 1 loss and 4 draws thus far against very competent competition) and show their true capability by the end of the season.

Enough said.

YNWA.

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20 Nov 2023 17:51:34
Thanks Ed, unfortunately I suspect you will be correct and the game will continue to be a farce.

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22 May 2023 17:04:16
Spot on Tommy!

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17 Jan 2023 07:30:11
Spot on Ed1, we need to back Klopp, he has earned that right and he understands and respects what Liverpool is all about.

Everyone can see that injuries have had a serious impact to us this season and that the midfield does need a rebuild, and on the latter, i would rather wait for the right players than take unnecessary risks and buy right now on someone who is available but who ultimately may not be right! The only other thing that worries me is the potential change in approach/ tactics, which if is the case has clearly not worked. But, i trust Klopp to put that right, particularly when he has the full resources available.

Stay with the team and continue to believe. It will pay dividends.

YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - I know Klopp has always said that the fans should not chant for him, but I agree totally with the calls to sing his name loud and proud throughout the rest of the season to show the fans are behind him.}


 

 

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07 Nov 2022 16:54:33
I'm afraid that it has already, by and large, got to the point of money determining titles - look at the money spent by Real Madrid/ Barcelona/ City/ Chelsea/ Utd over the last two decades and where the majority of big titles have landed.

It is clear that what Leicester and to a lesser degree LFC did recently will become all the more infrequent over the coming decades.

It appears to me that it is not the first 11 which counts anymore, but the depth of the squad. When LFC lose a number of key players, performances noticeably deteriorate, whereas this is not the case with those clubs who can purchase 2 or more large value players for each position on the pitch. It is just the reality of the game now.

So, the question is how do you really compete at the top table without largely unlimited funds? Well, without Klopp I do not believe that we would have won the Premier League or Champions League. So are we happy to do well and occasionally finish in top 4 or do we have to revert to the evils of oil money to continue with the top prizes?

I don't often agree with Ed2 ;-) but i have to say I wish we could continue with what he have and how we operate today.

What do the majority think?

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05 Nov 2022 08:50:38
Exactly Ed1. For me, the base put in place by FSG in terms of investment off the pitch and particularly on the Commercial side increasing revenues means that we should, hopefully, be able to compete seriously based on the funds that we generate ourselves. I know there are some debts which need to be carefully managed, but nothing like what Utd or some others are dealing with today? Please do correct me if i am wrong.

There are many on this site that simply want billionaires to pump unlimited funds for stars, but i'll be honest, i love and much prefer to magic of scouting a Robertson, a modest priced Salah, TAA from the academy etc. We are hard working normal people (in the main! lol) and there is definitely part of me that likes being the underdog and proving the so called entitled wrong!

YNWA.

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{Ed001's Note - they are not perfect but no owner is. I would certainly prefer them to Qatar or Saudi Arabia owning the club. Neither of those are in line with what the club stands for.}


 

 





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