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08 Aug 2021 11:28:04
Wonder Dog Sparky posted this around half an hour ago: "Skipping in from his playroom, Sparky says has been wondering if Origi and Phillips for Bowen might be of interest to Liverpool. "

Thoughts? Would you be happy with that?

zpecialone

1.) 08 Aug 2021 11:34:39
Is Wonderdog Sparky the reincarnation of Ted Rogers, and more importantly, can he do that 3 2 1 thing with his paws?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t think he knows who Ted Rogers is. Do you mean Ginger Rogers?}


2.) 08 Aug 2021 11:37:44
I think that’s a good deal for West Ham.
For us as well? Maybe yeah. We are getting a piece of the jigsaw sorted. I just worry about letting Phillips go, I can’t see it as anything other than a risk, that might be me being overly cautious after watching our defence crumble last season though.
For the 3 players involved I think it suits all 3 as well.


3.) 08 Aug 2021 11:38:38
Not sure id be happy payine 30-35 million for Bowen which is roughly the value of Nat and Div. Think id prefer to just keep them both tbh.


4.) 08 Aug 2021 11:52:19
I'd prefer to keep Nat and not sign Bowen but in terms of valuations, West Ham would reject this.

Nat clearly has been available for £15M and a bid of around £12M would surely do for Origi so £27M for Bowen - I think West Ham would want closer to £35M.


5.) 08 Aug 2021 12:08:10
£20mill more like, think we'd be doing well to get £8m for Divock in this market. And Phillips is a FIFTH choice defender, if anyone is willing to give us £12-15m jump on it.


6.) 08 Aug 2021 12:21:46
We have to wait until VVD and Gomez are fully fit. We have to learn from last year. Phillips can be sold in Jan if all is well.


7.) 08 Aug 2021 12:33:49
If somebody offered us £ 35m for Origi and Phillips I would be very surprised if the overwhelming majority on didn’t say yes.

By the same token, we are (allegedly) looking for a versatile front player who would basically be a back-up, along with Jota and possibly Ox and Elliot for our front three. I assume but am ready to stand corrected, that Bowen is classified as HG and selling Divock would mean we could sign another Johnny Foreigner type of chap?

So, in theory we would seem to be getting a potentially reasonable deal. That said (10 pts if you can think of one) - when was the last time that a transfer happened that consisted of three players in a swap deal?

Perhaps Sparky is just being a bit mischievous after all?


8.) 08 Aug 2021 13:07:59
Have to say i'd rather loan an attacker like Coutinho for a season than pay silly money for Bowen, especially when we have such good young players coming through in them positions.


9.) 08 Aug 2021 13:39:21
I think this wouldn’t be a bad deal. Bowen suits our style better than Origi. Of course he’s got to a lot of work to do on his game but mane wasn’t the finished article before he joined.

As for Phillips if he wants to get minutes who are we to stop him after the shift he put in last season…unless everyone saying keep him means he should start before konate, matip, Vvd and Gomez.


 

 

03 Aug 2021 17:23:34
Fabs has just signed a new long term contract with the club. Brilliant news.

zpecialone

1.) 03 Aug 2021 18:15:38
Owners won't spend though.


2.) 03 Aug 2021 18:52:26
If they sign Saul or Bissouma then all is forgiven.


3.) 03 Aug 2021 19:33:08
This is definitely a smokescreen for mbappe!


4.) 03 Aug 2021 19:45:58
Can see Bobby and Hendo being left out of new contract talks, or at least not what they might be looking for. let's be honest, if Biss or Saul are signed, then its going to be a battle for starting with Thiago and Fab nailed on.


5.) 03 Aug 2021 19:56:18
I don’t know why I am getting involved but Spaceman it’s obvious why Fabs is nailed on but what has Thiago done to earn the right to be a definite starter? Surely he has to earn that right this season.


6.) 03 Aug 2021 21:04:29
Thiago is starting alongside Hendo and Fab if all are fit. That is the midfield that started at Everton before things went to hell in a hand basket which means that had always been the plan when he arrived. Don’t see why that would change.


7.) 03 Aug 2021 22:12:15
That will change depending on form, fitness, a new signing etc. Gini ended up playing the full season. Hopefully Jones steps up to push for a spot and if we play the 4 forwards I would imagine Thiago would drop out.


8.) 03 Aug 2021 22:59:37
Two reasons Mark

1. Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. If he doesn’t start when fit then he would look like an absolute fool.

2. Someone who is excellent in press resistant, and has a sublime vision to pick a pass plus the only midfielder who could break the lines needs to start.

Who is he Inferior to in the squad today?


9.) 03 Aug 2021 23:11:44
What does reason No.1 mean? Klopp went on strike?

{Ed0666's Note - news to me also. It truly is a Peculiar comment. Maybe he has insider knowledge.


10.) 03 Aug 2021 23:15:16
'Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. ' - This is a lie, embarrassing yet again.


11.) 03 Aug 2021 23:54:10
Thiago can hardly be judged on last season Mark. Get behind the lad cus he's one of our lot and sure as s**t ain't leaving tomorrow 😅.


12.) 04 Aug 2021 03:10:55
Here we go. The inventing and making up of stories has restarted. Outright lies to make a point, while smearing anyone along the way.

The Eds really should not be allowing this. Absolutely nobody else does it to this extent.

{Ed0666's Note - eds shouldn’t allow what? am I missing something? Calm down, Calm down ArAy (I’ve always wanted to say that) you’re gonna blow a gasket.


13.) 04 Aug 2021 03:21:34
Ed0666, it's Harry with the lie about Klopp going on strike to get Thiago signed. You obviously haven't seen how far he goes and has gone in the past. Check with Ed001 when you have a chance.

{Ed0666's Note - It amazes me how you guys pick up on Harry’s new aliases. I never can. I know Harry can be a trifle annoying and can rub people up the wrong way but try not to let him get to you mate. If he oversteps boundaries please know he’ll be banned.


14.) 04 Aug 2021 05:04:31
Calm down, calm down ArAy - love it to bits Ed 😁😁

Telling you coffee and toast is getting better snd better - shame we don’t have the old days when you could buy players during the season - now that would have been fun.

{Ed0666's Note - I must be the only person that likes the system we have now a summer and winter period you can buy players. I don’t like the thought of you’re star striker being injured and not being able to replace him till January or the summer


15.) 04 Aug 2021 06:07:00
It's cool with me Ed0666, if it's okay with everyone else. I just wanted to point out that I don't allow anyone to rub me up, at all. I suspect you're confusing me with BarryinLouth? 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - Barry doesent rub as well as he used to


16.) 04 Aug 2021 09:55:17
Welcome back Harry lol! Can't beat a Harry rumour or for that matter a Harry outright fantasy story or kick off haha!


17.) 04 Aug 2021 08:00:38
Golden Ed 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - cheers Gandolf ☝️


18.) 04 Aug 2021 09:21:45
I'll used a Mink glove next time Hotlips.

{Ed0666's Note - ooh la la


19.) 04 Aug 2021 09:33:30
Markp08. Thiago has some weekly wages. Is classed as a worldie and he is a starter. Hendo should be too. Top 3 captains of my lifetime. Can understand with age and injuries it’s difficult to sanction a bumper deal. I would if we were cash rich and allowed heart over head. But it’s 2yrs on current. That’s 33-34. With two more seasons of treatment.

IMO I’m now in a place I’d think that win a top title in that time hopefully. Hendo lifts it. He’s 34 a legend and can go play for Sunderland or whoever his boyhood Favourite was. As a business he doesn’t need four years on top wage.


20.) 04 Aug 2021 18:15:36
Mark, that could be true but again it depends on who the opposition is. If a team comes and packs it in the way Newcastle at Anfield did last season then, we will need even more creativity and ball retention in midfield.

In that game, Thiago balled out and was playing defence splitting and blind passes for fun. Had the strikers done their jobs, we don’t even draw that game. Klopp took him off and many thought that cost us the game cos we couldn’t hold on to the ball and Newcastle came into us too much and scored. Tho, I disagree with this notion cos our strikers’ poor play cost us the game, there was some truth to that. We shall see.


 

 

20 Jul 2021 06:31:20
According to Fabrizio Romano, we have agreed a deal to sell Marko Grujic to Porto. Fingers crossed.

zpecialone

1.) 20 Jul 2021 07:11:20
Awoniyi gone as well for 6.5 mil. Looks like we may push hard to bring in a midfielder in the coming days.


2.) 20 Jul 2021 07:38:31
Grujic going to Porto in a loan to buy deal with Awoniyi going to Union Berlin for £6.5mil.


3.) 20 Jul 2021 07:47:33
Its circa 11 million and not a loan to buy for MG to Porto.


4.) 20 Jul 2021 07:55:54
Isn't the Grujic deal a straight sale and not a loan?


5.) 20 Jul 2021 08:07:43
I think the Grujic is a direct sale, Joyce and Jones both seemed to have confirmed it.


6.) 20 Jul 2021 08:25:02
Good Luck to both lads.


7.) 20 Jul 2021 08:42:36
MG is a straight sale as DO will be in the next two weeks. Several inquiries about HW mean that he'll have numerous options whether he decides to stay in the UK or go abroad. XS will hopefully follow. This would then leave room for two to come in - possibly SN and DM.


8.) 20 Jul 2021 09:13:53
Rumours about Nat Phillips to Brighton too, as a replacement for White. The figure mentioned was £ 15m.


9.) 20 Jul 2021 09:23:58
You made me think more than I like to this early in the morning, Reynard, but I have decoded your message and agree with your analysis!


10.) 20 Jul 2021 10:01:30
Finally cleaning out the closet, clearing away the dead wood. Chuck in Shaq and Nat and there is 45m in the pot, and that's without Wilson, Taki, Ojo, and Div, whom could realistically add another 40m to that.

{Ed002's Note - Or maybe the money could be used to pay for Thiago and Jota?}


11.) 20 Jul 2021 10:07:45
If the rumours are to be believed - and they are certainly gathering pace now - we could be looking at banking at least £60m from sales:

Grujic and Awoniyi - £17m between them
Phillips - £15m
Origi, Shaqiri and Wilson are all in the £10-£15m range - £30m-£45m

So that's somewhere between £62m and £77m, and we may get £5m from other sales - we already have a bit from Liam Miller, maybe Woodburn etc.

There's also the possibility of some sell on fee from Luis Alberto, although it looks unlikely we will sell Naby Keita this season, which would have been a decent cash injection.

It appears Dortmund have not yet sealed a deal for Malen, so he's still available, around £25m. So him and Niguez could be covered by our sales (excluding agents fees etc etc) .

Also looking at salaries, between the names above (Grujic, Awoniyi, Phillips, Origi, Shaqiri, Wilson) we have around £200k - £250k of salaries too.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not paid for last season's transfers yet.}


12.) 20 Jul 2021 10:32:23
They aren’t listening Ed02.

There are no bills to pay when you are playing Premier Manager.


13.) 20 Jul 2021 10:35:33
That’s true, Ed002, thanks for reminding me. 👍.


14.) 20 Jul 2021 10:36:35
Ed002 did Liverpool not arrange a 4 year payment plan for Jota and Thaigo? So should give them a bit more time in payment and a chance to improve the squad with a midfielder and possibly a striker if these transfers go through.

{Ed002's Note - No someone has been misleading you.}


15.) 20 Jul 2021 10:43:25
I think people forget we bought Thiago and Jota on 'buy now, pay later' deals. Makes sense to clear those debts first I reckon.


16.) 20 Jul 2021 10:44:44
Use the money for sales to pay for last year and get this year’s targets on the never-never again. Just kick the can down the road a bit more. Seems to work for the UK Government.


17.) 20 Jul 2021 10:45:21
Do teams usually pay the entire transfer fee upfront? or even over the first 12 months. i thought it was spread over a few years no?

{Ed002's Note - The reason Liverpool ended up with Jota was because the clubs would not accept their long term payment deals for the two players LIverpool preferred.}


18.) 20 Jul 2021 10:51:26
Wilson appears to be next to Fulham.


19.) 20 Jul 2021 10:53:55
If FSG decide not to make the most of Klopps presence and final 3 years at the club, it could affect their big pay day when they sell up. Whilst i agree with prudence, and would rather see us run in a sustainable manner, they also need to consider that having a generational talent managing us is rare and needs to be made the most of.
Is there time for version 2.0 under JK at this rate?


20.) 20 Jul 2021 11:27:06
We didn't have salaries last season for Grujic, Awoniyi or Harry Wilson so we don't have "savings" for these. Same with Taki for half the season anyway.


21.) 20 Jul 2021 10:12:17
My bad! Had read an earlier report that said loan to buy.
£16/ 17mil for 2 players who barely kicked a ball for us.
Perhaps Nat Philips through for £15mil too as previously pointed out and we’ve accrued a nice pot on money.
Hopefully deals for Shaq, Wilson, Origi, Ojo materialise too.


22.) 20 Jul 2021 10:12:26
Happy for the other sales but really confused at why we’re letting nat Phillips go. I know we need to raise funds but he is just not the defender I would let go, Phillips was so reliable and Gomez/ matip are some of the most unreliable players we have, as good as they can be when they get going. We’re essentially relying on 3 injury prone defenders and one that’s coming back from a season out.


23.) 20 Jul 2021 11:35:43
We should ask Brighton about Bissouma at the same time. I can’t help thinking it’s a bit short sighted selling Phillips, but good luck to the lad, I think he’s going to have a very good premier league career.


24.) 20 Jul 2021 11:42:34
VVVV, the key issue on Phillips is what the player wants as well as what's right for the club.

He's 24, and a very decent CB so its not surprising he wants first team football, albeit at a lower level than top 6.


25.) 20 Jul 2021 11:09:19
Quick question ed002. I seen you said that we haven’t paid for last years transfers yet. Liverpool tend to spread the cost of the transfer over the course of the players contracts by the looks of it. Question I’m getting at is

1. Do we do this more than most clubs do?
2. In your opinion on the outside looking in are Liverpool doing the right thing or just kicking the debt further down the road in the hope more success follows which obviously brings in more revenue etc
3. Probably a stupid question and obvious answer but paying for players over a longer period of time does that mean the club pay more in taxes/ interest for example Thiago bought for 20 million, because it was spread over 4-5 years does it cost the club 25 million instead of paying once off payment of 20 million.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool didn't have the money to buy the players they wanted so they had Jota as a third pick because Wolves would accept payments being spread out. Liverpool are building debt and making huge losses - which is why they must sell to buy or do more with the players that they have - and they have some very good youngsters. If payments are spread out the club have to pay a premium.}


26.) 20 Jul 2021 11:29:30
Supposedly there is money already in the kitty without sales. So I assume some money will pay for last year's transfers and the rest will cover, atleast, part of this year's.

{Ed002's Note - Jolly good.}


27.) 20 Jul 2021 12:13:28
As well as paying off last year’s debt I assume we will also have to pay for Konate in legal tender rather than shiny buttons?

{Ed002's Note - Correct.}


28.) 20 Jul 2021 13:15:21
ed002 did liverpool not use any of the Brewster and lovren money toward last season buys or was that all ready allocated to pay debits. If some sort of payment plan was sorted and we did pay extra for Jota of about £5m in memory serves me right it would be silly to pay that off early and then pay extra for players this season.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are a loss making club.}


29.) 20 Jul 2021 13:22:46
We must be the poorest, successful team in the league. Didn't sign anyone the season before last, signed players on credit last season, struggling to get funds together to sign more than one player this season - and none of the recent outlays were enormous in the grand scheme of things. Hard to fathom how little money we have, on track to be outspent by Arsenal who have been garbage for seasons now, I just don't get it.


30.) 20 Jul 2021 20:36:01
And for a loss making club we seem to make a profit every year the last few years except for when C.V. kicked in. probably a stupid question but can a club make a profit and yet be loss making at the same time?

{Ed002's Note - This is why it is pointless explaining the finances. You don't understand debt - the transfers from last year have not been paid for. All of the Fixed Assets (including the stadium) have been mortgaged. Try not to make yourself look stupid with such posts.}


31.) 20 Jul 2021 21:11:14
Classy as usual ed.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot be expected to compensate for your ignorance.}


 

 

20 Sep 2020 16:09:31
Hi eds, do you guys know what's happening with Nat Phillips? Have we sold him or are we actively trying to sell him? If he's still at the club, seems a bit strange he wasn't even included on the bench today with both Gomez and Matip injured and no other senior CB in the squad.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - Nathaniel Phillips (CB) if Liverpool add a first choice CB that Klopp wants then time may have come for Phillips - Stuttgart would like to keep him on loan and may be open to buying him at the right price. Reading, Millwall, Blackburn Rovers are all open to taking him on loan the the Championship but Liverpool are pushing to sell.}


1.) 20 Sep 2020 20:03:09
He's 23. He's a couple of months older than Gomez. Surely he either stays as 4th choice (if Klopp thinks he's up to it, which after seeing Fabinho have Werner completely in his pocket, seems unlikely) or he leaves the club. There's no sense in him going on another loan.

I actually think he's a decent defender, but there comes a time when we have to be looking at selling him, if not for his own career.


2.) 20 Sep 2020 22:15:27
I like Phillips, but then again I'm not working for Liverpool and I'm not a professional scout, so what do I know.


3.) 20 Sep 2020 22:17:36
After watching Fabs, I can imagine Klopp asking him to play CB with VVD and having Thiago play deeper maybe.


4.) 21 Sep 2020 00:07:06
One of the issues to consider with Philips is that replacing him with an HG defender who is any better than him is unlikely with the funds he would generate by selling him. I think he's nailed on to be the 4th cb (not including fabinho), I'd say its more likely that Matip could go if there's any interest, as he would be easier to replace, as he's not HG and would fetch more money.


 

 

17 Sep 2020 10:03:56
James Pearce has claimed that a fee of 30million euros has been agreed with Bayern for Thiago. If true, I don't think it's a coincidence we've finally moved forwards with the negotiations right after we agreed a fee with Sheffield United for Brewster. Would be over the moon if we (finally) sign Thiago!

zpecialone

1.) 17 Sep 2020 10:27:17
I think €30 mil for a 29 year old with less than a year on his contract is a bit too steep.


2.) 17 Sep 2020 10:46:18
Top lfc journalists, now stating. Deal is £20m paid over the course of the 4 year deal. With £5m add ons linked to premier league and champions league success. Cracking deal! Fantastic player with experience and winning mentality.


3.) 17 Sep 2020 10:46:40
time will tell, let's face it, £30m is a lot of money, but in football, as in many things, a player is worth what somebody will pay.

Time will tell if he proves worth the investment, I for one will ignore the money and enjoy the player dictating the tempo for Liverpool. If it happens that it.

I hope Ginni stays, but wish him all the very best if he goes, he has been a wonderful servant and we were all a little underwhelmed when he signed!


4.) 17 Sep 2020 10:54:11
i've seen other rumours its a 20m fee with 5m of bonuses. Tbh it doesn't matter as its not our cash and I am guessing someone is in the process of leaving to free up the funds and space in the squad.

Yes it's dragged out but the club have got it done and now need to make it official with the anfield lean.


5.) 17 Sep 2020 10:54:54
I heard it was £20m up front and add ons based upon winning trophies etc to take it to £27m.


6.) 17 Sep 2020 10:55:07
apparently he stayed in the Titanic hotel last night, in town to do the deal!


7.) 17 Sep 2020 10:55:30
He’s a 60m baller all day long if not more! We’ve sold solanke and Ibe for 20m a pop u jokin!


8.) 17 Sep 2020 11:03:25
Red Rumour- he's one of the best players in the world. €25m rising to 30 looks good business to me.


9.) 17 Sep 2020 11:03:32
It’s £20m plus £5m add ons, for a world class player in this day and age is not “steep”.


10.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:08
Ed 2 has confirmed it to be true so it must be true! feel sorry for Brewster if he's making way for it to happen, but hope he proves LFC wrong and goes on to be a success where he ends up.


11.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:41
keep walking up that hill then mr rumour Thiago is top top class.


12.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:59
The one thing this phenomenal LFC side has lacked is a world-class ball-playing midfielder.

The current midfield has been exceptional and deserves all the praise it gets, but there are occasions when it's one-dimensional.

Thiago changes everything, plus he works his socks off.


13.) 17 Sep 2020 11:07:59
Red rumor, we're in 2020 mate.


14.) 17 Sep 2020 11:26:10
Fantastic new about Thiago.
World class player, worth every penny .


15.) 17 Sep 2020 11:26:54
Could turn out to be an incredible signing but like Fekir just going to wait till its actually confirmed

Spaceman no disrespect but that is an exact copy and paste of Henry Jacksons tweet earlier unless that's what you were going for haha.


16.) 17 Sep 2020 11:27:06
I don't think age is an issue because his style of play is not explosive so I think he can continue at his level for at least another 3 or 4 years. If he contributes to winning some trophies this season then the fee will seem very fair indeed.


17.) 17 Sep 2020 12:07:47
Welcome to Anfield Thiago Alcantara!


18.) 17 Sep 2020 12:47:21
If we retain the title he’ll have been worth every penny of his transfer fee, and that’s speaking as someone who had severe reservations about signing him.


19.) 17 Sep 2020 13:11:10
Yeah Red Rumor it appears nobody cares what you think but actually it's £20m guaranteed plus the rest in add-ons dependent on him being instrumental in helping us win the Premier League and Champions League. Sounds good to me!

I haven't seen him posing with a pen yet though, so not counting my chicken nuggets. But I'm sure Rodrigo told him how much he enjoyed playing against us on Saturday so shouldn't be a problem getting him to sign on the dotted line. Now hopefully his brother can find a good Premier League club where he'll thrive and be happy. (not West Ham)


20.) 17 Sep 2020 13:49:59
BBC reporting 20 mil plus 5 mil add ons paid over the course of his contract, so not bad all in all. 20 mil is what we paid for Lallana and JDR pointed out, sold Solanke for! Really happy with this, but I think we need to get rid of a MF, maybe not though, always good at have depth.


21.) 17 Sep 2020 14:08:49
He's top 3 midfielders on the planet, and ensures we have truly world class in each area of our team now.


22.) 17 Sep 2020 14:17:03
Bargain! How can some people be questioning the price?

James Tawkowski has had a 31 million bid turned down.

In today's market that's bang average fee for a world class player. Regardless of contract situation.


23.) 17 Sep 2020 14:25:22
adds some depth, quality and a plan b if we need to change thigns. Now all we need is to win the premier league, champ leauge, world cup super cup and FA cup to keep the mindless fans happy.


24.) 17 Sep 2020 14:46:02
Pretty sure he's going to be a big part of Plan A once he gets integrated into the team.
With his passing added to our fullbacks creativity we are going to tear a few teams apart.


25.) 17 Sep 2020 14:50:29
Playing devils advocate here, Thiago is a great signing, world class player. However, he is adding depth to an already over crowded midfield, in a team already worryingly close to the home grown quota.

I trust Edwards and Klopp whole heartedly but worry that a more substantial ready made back up for the front three could shoot us in the foot. Will we be as lucky this year with injuries? nobody can tell the future but we are riding our luck in that area slightly.


26.) 17 Sep 2020 14:53:06
Bobbya_Teeth, that really does put it in context. In fact it seems like daylight robbery.


27.) 17 Sep 2020 15:35:30
@Corbra666, @Shanks and @Salah given Thiago's age, length of contract, being able to speak to foreign clubs in January and other clubs baulking at Bayern Munich valuation I would have thought we'd be in a strong bargaining position. Then again if Klopp tapped him up Bayern may have dug their heels in.

I suppose €20 mil plus add ons is not bad if he lives up to his billing. As someone posted "it's not my money".


28.) 17 Sep 2020 16:09:35
Nah, that 20 Million price plus add ons (and agent fees to be discovered later 😉) seems just about right for the C.V. era. In normal times 40 Million and more, would easily be a serious asking price. Skill, experience and loads of titles to back it all up. Where are you going to find that today? Yes he's 29 but he's not exactly on crutches, just yet.


29.) 17 Sep 2020 17:23:44
Caution lads and lasses - nothing has been concluded yet. From what I have read talks are not at an advanced stage yet. It would be a great bit of business if it comes off though. Fingers crossed.


 

 

 

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28 Aug 2021 05:42:10
Lord Almighty. The constant negativity, the meltdown over other club's transfers, talk of how we'll finish fifth, FSG out brigades, talk of Coutinho and Sterling at Liverpool! Are we sure it's 2021? Are we sure we've got the likes of Salah, VVD and Alisson and not Benteke, Clyne and Mignolet? Are we sure we've won the Champions League and Premier League recently?

Or have I just woken up from the best dream I've ever had only to find Rodgers smiling down at me again?

zpecialone

1.) 28 Aug 2021 06:00:35
Wait until Balotelli, Borini and Lambert are signed to start against Chelsea this weekend….


2.) 28 Aug 2021 06:56:49
Unfortunately people are buying into the media circus of the transfer window mate. They think because someone else signed a big name that we need to do the same. Whatever happened to supporting the team?

Allot also seem to forget that the year we won the title we signed no1 and this year we've signed a top class center back and got our other 3 center backs back and fit. I think that summer it was the same moaning and groaning so let them cry all they want, come November they will all be saying how much of a master stroke it was once again and will be praising the club for not wasting money.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 07:47:32
Not Rodgers mate! it's Hodgson!


4.) 28 Aug 2021 08:00:07
Many are trolls making stuff up to get a rise including rival supporters. I recommend not rising to them and focus on enjoying our season which I believe will be a fun battle and hopefully successful one.


5.) 28 Aug 2021 08:19:49
What are you talking about. No one has said we will finish fifth, and maybe one person is calling FSG out. Posters are asking for one decent transfer before the window shuts. No point making up a story that doesn’t exist.

{Ed001's Note - loads have called FSG out, we have had to delete many posts throwing abuse at them from multiple posters.}


6.) 28 Aug 2021 08:20:43
To be honest I don't think too many are trolls, which is a bit sad really. The season has started 6 points and a big game today. Its all good, enjoy it.


7.) 28 Aug 2021 08:36:36
People get sucked into the transfer circus and don’t seem to have the capacity to objectively judge the position of a club. For me, United are never going to win the big trophies under Solskjaer anyway as his limited management abilities are practically a points cap. I don’t see what he gives United that they don’t already have. Greenwood and Cavani are top players. Their problem is not in attack, but in midfield and defence. Whether you blame it on Solskjaer’s inability to improve his players or lack of backing those areas United are not good enough in too many areas to win the league in my opinion.

If people just used their brains they would see this transfer is a huge win for us. United’s vanity and insistence that City can’t have him has given us a huge leg up in our quest to reclaim the league. City will likely have to play the whole season with false nine’s and if they do it could be a disaster. Also just having United back in the league will be pretty cool and add to the drama of it all lol.

{Ed025's Note - pint of bitter for AW please bar tender.. :)


8.) 28 Aug 2021 08:43:30
Ok fair enough Ed, I only see the posts on the site. I can’t comment on the rubbish you have to delete but all Ed’s say the same. Enjoy the Match everybody.

I am in Alcudia anyone know a good bar to watch the match?


9.) 28 Aug 2021 08:47:23
Have we conceded a goal yet no, have we played badly at any point no, has the roof caved in no, are all the birds migrating yet no, so it's safe to say there's nothing to worry about, the season has just started be excited because the tension might kill you, you miserable people, I for one would love to see us bring in a key player or two but the fact is they probably wouldn't get anywhere near the boot room, so if you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our club or take up more flying.

{Ed025's Note - i like that mate..


10.) 28 Aug 2021 09:20:25
Thought we were iffy against Norwich until Fabinho came on, but equally, I thought we played well against Burnley and handled their rough stuff well, I’d even go as far as saying that Keita was quietly effective against Burnley. Which is clearly good news that it appears to be dawning on him that he’s drinking in the last chance saloon.

Although it would be nice to bring in Raul/ Bissouma as that would make us very hard to beat, but at least we haven’t wasted money on Traore / Ramsey / Sanches / Coutinho / Sterling and I’d far that we kept any money we do have for when we are in a better position to buy a player who we do absolutely need, when we need to.


11.) 28 Aug 2021 10:18:14
Last year was (hopefully) an anomaly where we had so many injuries and players playing out of position that we got knocked out of shape entirely. Despite that, and being seventh towards the end of the season we battled back with title winning form and the league’s most inexperienced defensive partnership to finish third. Pretty darn respectable considering our situation.

Over the summer we have gained back our entire backline, signed a beast of a defender and promoted a future superstar into the midst. Aside from losing Wijnaldum, this is still the same squad that got to two champions league finals, winning one and smashed the premier league just two years ago. They are nearly all the right side of thirty and in their prime.

People say you need to keep signing players to keep the squad fresh and keep others on their toes, well I think the adversity of last season will have done that for us. Our squad is as good as any in the league, or even Europe so we don’t need to sign overpriced Englishmen or past their prime superstars to stay relevant or even resigning Belgian Heskeys for exorbitant prices. Yes, a signing or two would be grand, but then who says people like Keita and the ox won’t have a season like we know they all can?

Positivity people. Money saved this year means more to spend the next.


 

 

24 Aug 2021 14:28:35
Robbo has just signed a new long term contract until 2026!

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13 Aug 2021 10:00:14
VVD has signed a new long-term contract! Brilliant stuff.

zpecialone

1.) 13 Aug 2021 10:05:28
Everybody is going on about FSG not signing anybody this season but with all the new contracts that must of set the club back a good few £m.


2.) 13 Aug 2021 10:15:07
Rather interesting that we don’t do contracts for players around the 30 years old mark…….


3.) 13 Aug 2021 10:17:03
Four more years until 2025. When he'll be 35. Prudent and perfect timing.

{Ed025's Note - i have to say i think thats a bit premature ArAy, 31 and just getting over a very serious injury so who knows how that will effect his game?, i would have waited a few months myself mate...but good luck to him..


4.) 13 Aug 2021 10:36:13
He's the best ED25 would be absolutely foolish not to give him long-term contract. He's here to stay long long time. As Carragher said it doesn't make any difference if it's 8-9 months for him to recover at the end of the day we've to see Bigger picture coz VVD is going to give us he's service for 5-6 yrs and a gigantic personality in dressing room and around the club.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes brilliant KF and a fully fit VVD is one of the best in the world, but the thing is that there is a doubt about him at the moment mate, i cant see why they couldn,t just wait a few moths to see how the injury has effected his game..


5.) 13 Aug 2021 10:41:29
I’m having one of my old moments - did I read somewhere that one of our priorities was to get six contracts renewed this summer? There’s Ali, TAA, VVD and Fabs done. Another one was Salah, was there another one? I’m thinking maybe Robbo but I thought he had signed a new contract a while back.


6.) 13 Aug 2021 10:37:19
How lucky we are that some of the best players in the league in their positions are happy to stay for the best part of their careers! Not so long ago every world class player bar Stevie wanted out. Hopefully Mo will be sorted soon, this team doesn't need loadsa signings as with our best 11 on the pitch were still the best in the country. Building the next great team by bringing in top young players like Konate to go with the likes of Trent, Gomez and Elliott should be the priority.

{Ed025's Note - 3rd best in the country you mean JH?, have a look at last seasons league table mate...and dont give me none of that we had injuries boo hoo malarkey..


7.) 13 Aug 2021 10:56:12
Ed025 you are coming across very bitter he said some of the best players in there position. He said with all are players fit the best team in the league what I think is a fair point player for player. You keep going on about injuries last season and having a go at us but it was only the hatchet job your lot did on us last season with 2 of the worst challenges all season taking VVD out for the season and Thiago was lucky only to be out for 3 months. I know injuries happen but challenges like them 2 never should as a bit of bad luck that could have been 2 players careers ended and football has hopefully moved of from days like that.

{Ed025's Note - im far from bitter grino im just a realist, forget all the why,s and wherefore,s you finished 3rd last season and when you won it you were the best in the land...thats just basic maths mate..


8.) 13 Aug 2021 11:01:46
So whoever has the best goal difference after the weekend will be the best team 8n the country Ed?

{Ed025's Note - of course WDW, it might only be for a short while but yes thats just the way it is...if a comet came down and the league was over by tuesday thats just a fact...i do fear for the education system in the west derby are of the city though mate.. :)


9.) 13 Aug 2021 11:03:06
You may be right Ed025, but I think it had to be done. For the following reasons. The team was affected greatly by his absence last year, because the man exuded and still exudes confidence, which rubs off on his team mates. He was a pillar in the team, and when the pillar was gone, the house above started shaking. And secondly I think the team will undergo massive changes next summer because the average age is creeping up. Once you get the core of Alisson, VVD, TAA, Fabinho and Salah signed up and out of the way, you've created your base and you can work on the rest of the team. Next summer, one of the front 3 will go; maybe even two. Milner will go, and one or both of Keita and Ox will go. We'll depend less on Hendo, but he'll stick around. And I expect one of Matip and Gomez to leave because they're not going to be happy being third choice while being fit. Whoever joins this summer will not be a starter, in my opinion. So it was crucial to tie down the base for the next five years. Will he regain his previous fitness and sharpness? Right now I would say I would still take a VVD at 80% of his powers because of the effect he has on the team when being on the pitch.

{Ed025's Note - i get how good he is (or possibly WAS) ArAy, i just think at this present moment its a bit of a gamble mate thats all..


10.) 13 Aug 2021 11:06:54
Dont think our best 11 was on the pitch more than a handful of times Ed, and in fairness that IS what i said. Full team, back us against anyone. Now i know there'll be injuries but you can't go into the season already writing off players to be injured.

{Ed025's Note - i expect you to be right up there JH, but we all know things can happen my friend..


11.) 13 Aug 2021 11:26:02
Ed0025 with your philosophy if Ivan Toney scores 1 tonight then City should go all out to buy him instead of Kane as he will have more goals than him this season thus making him the best striker in the land. Tony will have 1 and Kane 0 so that’s twice as many goals, so 300 mill would be a fair price 😜.

{Ed025's Note - city dont buy duffers JK, the league is over 38 games mate and if you top it at the end you will be the best team...i just hope to god for the sake of my sanity that you dont.. :)


12.) 13 Aug 2021 11:51:30
Grino 75 they seem to forget when Gomes got injured and all the whining they did. Son assaulted Gomes, Son should be done for attempted murder, Son should be banned for life etc etc The hypocrisy from High Horse FC is the worst in the whole league.


13.) 13 Aug 2021 13:22:12
Rudder and Son really did nothing that injury was like something out of final destination.


14.) 13 Aug 2021 13:15:34
Not sure that's true ed025, they just don't have the same consequences when they do buy badly. They can just buy again. If any other club except perhaps Chelsea or PSG had that sort of mediocre return for that amount of money they'd be in trouble or at least having to heavily curtail their spending to recover (Everton probably being one of those) .

Under Pep:
Ake for £40m+
Rodri for £60m hasn't been that good
Angelino £10m
Mendy for £50m
Danilo for £30m
Bravo for £15m
Nolito for £15m.


15.) 13 Aug 2021 15:06:54
Hope its ok to quote from the BBCs website :
Since Van Dijk joined Liverpool in January 2018, he has won 72 of his 95 Premier League games. The win rate of 76% is the best of any player to make 80 or more appearances in the league over the same period.
Even if he doesn't fully recover from his injury, he wil probably still be the best defender in the league.


16.) 13 Aug 2021 15:13:44
I think that Rodri is awful they never look the same City without Fernandinho in there team him playing was one of the biggest turning points for city last season.


17.) 13 Aug 2021 19:30:43
Amazing that all these players want to be tied to the allegedly sinking Liverpool ship.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 14:46:57
From ed002's post on the rumours page (check it out if you haven't already! ), our main midfield options to replace Wijnaldum are: Bissouma, Neuhaus, Sanches, McGinn, Saul and Zielinski.

So for a bit of fun, in what order would you take them at Liverpool? I'd say consider everything about the player, from their ability to their fit to their wage demands and transfer fees to their injury records and their availability etc.

Mine would go something like this:
1. Saul
2. Bissouma
3. Zielinski
4. Neuhaus
5. McGinn
6. Sanches.

zpecialone

1.) 12 Jul 2021 15:09:09
Spot on, my order would be exactly the same.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 15:16:09
It's hard to rank because I don't see much football outside of the prem. I'll try justify my rankings however.

1) Saul, had a poor recent season and his market value has dipped significantly because of this however his 3 seasons before that he's been exceptionally good. Good age and about to enter what you would say is prime years.

2) Bissouma, you've seen how good the guy is in the prem. Versatile and young, would be a great signing.

3) Zielinski, impressive season at CAM for Napoli with 20+ goal involvements in 50 ish games. Versatile but a little costly.

4) Neuhaus, young but so so effective at CDM. Good amount of goal involvements also considering his position. Potentially could become a world class player.

5) Sanches, he's come on leaps and bounds as a player in the last few years. Heaps of potential and no doubt a good player on his day. Worries would be his constant injury issues and his inconsistent performances.

6) McGinn, no doubt a really good player but I think he would be a big step down from Gini. Least attractive option on that list along with Sanches imo.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 22:30:56
If we can't get any of the top 4 of those then none or someone else. I think Sanches is a bad idea because look at how Keita has gotten on when looking at someone else with muscle injury issues. McGinn would cost at least £40M as well and no chance would he be worth that to us.


 

 

28 May 2021 09:14:52
Apparently we've finally triggered Konate's release clause. Looks a good start to our summer.

zpecialone

1.) 28 May 2021 09:56:20
I'm quite excited with what I see. You can't guarantee that any player will be a successful but Konate looks like he has all the attributes needed. Quick, strong, likes to play with the ball, etc. With VVD, Gomez, Konate, Matip and Phillips we have a wealth of riches in CB. They will need to be rotated due to fitness/ injuries but I'd be confident with those guys.


 

 

 

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26 Aug 2021 14:24:01
With the window coming to a close soon and options dwindling, do you think we might take advantage of the new price/ deal and make an effort for Aouar, ed002?

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23 Aug 2021 10:48:25
Didn't he suffer a serious knee injury recently?

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{Ed077's Note - he did come off in the match against Leverkusen on Saturday with a suspected knee injury. Not sure how long he will be out of action for though. Unconfirmed report is he'll be out for 2 months.}


 

 

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01 Aug 2021 15:32:03
Would be a quality signing. Think the man can cover central midfield too, so could be two birds with one stone. Probably not going to happen but one can dream.

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19 Jul 2021 17:10:07
Or maybe FSG aren't the ones who decide whether or not to hand out new contracts to the players? The owners have done plenty wrong in there time here but these baseless digs feel more like you wanting to have a go at the ownership instead of any substantial criticism.

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14 Jul 2021 11:03:00
VVVV, Ed002 said on the Chelsea page Griezmann earns 45m euros a year which is a lot more than 350k a week. Although I 100% agree with you that I hope we don't end up with Sanches even if Saul is a no go.

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18 Sep 2021 07:36:33
Re Hendo's celebration, I was actually rewatching the highlights of the Milan game just now and you can hear an audible 'Shoot! ' on the video, so ed001 might be right about it.

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06 Sep 2021 14:17:12
How can you say Saul is a midfield starter for Chelsea when he hasn't even made a single appearance for them?

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06 Sep 2021 09:23:13
None of our players could get into Chelsea's starting midfield? Come on, are you really saying you'd want Jorginho over Fabinho? Or Hendo?

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04 Sep 2021 17:23:09
Considering even Bobby was played at right wing back I'm pretty sure the only requirement Rodgers had was that you had to have a right foot to play there.

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02 Sep 2021 11:29:08
What's your opinion on him, ed?

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{Ed002's Note - I have never met him.}