18 Dec 2015 15:44:48
Just to change the subject i would love hear peoples opinions on klopp in general thus far. Also pick the Eds brains on something i'm sure not only myself have noticed. consistency! Brendan wasnt a clever guy, but under him sone days we looked like world beaters and then we would get chinned by some lower teams. For me Klopp is the same. after the city performance we raise expectations. But gave struggled to put a string of performances together. against westbrom we were woeful. Is it the players. luck. confidence. ?

{Ed002's Note - It was always going to be a roller coaster ride.}

1.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 16:18:00
Klopp is trying to get the best out of what he as, he can only be judged after he as his playing staff in and the players to play his way.

2.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 16:36:09
You're comparing klopp to Rodgers? Blasphemy.

3.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 17:53:14
I would like to put out 2 different scenarios if I may
1. Sinclair signs with Aidy Ward and it looks like he is on his toes and Rodgers is the manager. Every post on here calls Rodgers all the names they can think of, saying another young talent is allowed to leave without being given a chance. All Rodgers fault
2 Sinclair signs with Aidy Ward and it looks like he is on his toes, and Klopp is the manager. Not one post. blaming Klopp, but saying if he wants to go then good riddance because he must have an attitude problem.
Out of curiosity what is the difference between the 2 scenarios.

{Ed023's Note - One has a history of blocking progress for youngsters while the other has a history of turning youth or average players with no direction into world class players}

4.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 16:49:13
I'm loving Jurgen. I will judge him when he has assembled his own squad. But to get what he has and to get us believing in the current squad . I'm full of confidence I'm also confident ( benteke apart, so far) that if we sell any player now the club would make a profit. I wouldn't swap him for any other manager and that's coming from Rafa's biggest supporter.

5.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 18:27:17
To Red 64, the Sinclair talk is premature, Aidy Ward may be a bell end but he said he has no problem with LFC, only a problem with Rodgers.

6.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 18:39:31
Red since 64 - Why do feel it necessary to make up non-existent scenarios to defend Rodgers?

7.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 18:59:11
It's pretty difficult to blame Klopp for blocking Sinclair's route to the first team since he's not the one who bought two young strikers in Ings and Origi.

That said, both are here and are more capable than Sinclair, so if the kid wants to move on to further his career, it's understandable, if a bit unfortunate.

8.) 18 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 19:23:43
Red wire, Aidy Ward might not have a problem with Liverpool, but I am pretty sure Liverpool has a problem with him.

9.) 19 Dec 2015
18 Dec 2015 23:48:48
Klopp is also acclimatizing to the more demanding EPL playing schedule and accommodate his high tempo, high pressing "heavy metal" to those demands, while also accommodating a lot of players not really built for his footballing style (e.g., Benteke) .

I think the "inconsistencies" you're noting are a product of these variables.

It's also a product of injuries, etc.

For example, you cite the City game as an example of a "promising" performance for Klopp. That game featured Firmino as a false 9, with Coutinho and Lallana just in behind in a narrow and fluid attacking trio.

Well, it's hard to compare any games since to City, as, surprisingly, those three have not started again in this attacking formation since City.

Again, part of this is injury (Coutinho out), but also trying to find a way to accommodate Benteke as our CF against lesser competition. But even against lesser comp this has been somewhat of a failure, as Benteke requires an attack centered around him, as his lack of pace, link up, creativity, passing, awareness, limits his use in other ways.

10.) 19 Dec 2015
19 Dec 2015 01:21:23
Don't know what Red 64 is getting at but I think the Ed is spot on with his response.

11.) 19 Dec 2015
19 Dec 2015 08:36:59
We were woeful against the Geordies but not the Baggies.
Against West Brom Benteke had a poor game isolated up front, our finishing was wasteful and we failed to defend set pieces but other than that the performance was OK.

I wonder if Klopp's management team know more about the likes of City and Chelsea because they have played them or their managers several times with Dortmund. This will be the first time they have played Pullis etc. Obviously they have faced McLaren before but at a totally different club.
I also believe that Klopp's team have not worked out the best way to play at home, hence our dreadful results at home. The best way is to take the initiative, follow the tactics we had at St Mary's and blow teams away. If he wants a noisy Anfield, play 2 up front, not 2 DM's, and go for it!

12.) 19 Dec 2015
19 Dec 2015 09:10:58
I'm impressed

1) he's changed the mood of the club, fans and players
2) he's starting to develop a style for the team that I think suits (high press and swift transitions into attack)
3) he's added real danger going forward (how many times had we scored more than once a game before he arrived vs after? )
4) he's improved a number of important players eg. Llalana, Lucas, Lovren, Moreno individual performances and confidence
5) we look more structured and balanced in defence

He still has more work to do though, most notably
1) figuring out how to integrate Benteke who's not best suited to his high press system
2) How to improve on set pieces (both in Attack and defence)
3) how the cut out individual defensive errors (notably at goalkeeper)
4) how to unlock defensive teams at home (Westbrom was a good start IMO, but I would still like to see a twin striker setup in Benteke + another)
5) prove he can handle transfer season (which I'm sure he can! )

I would take him over all our competition.

13.) 19 Dec 2015
19 Dec 2015 12:44:29
Spot on, Zimbo.