06 Mar 2023 20:52:33
To be honest, freak result happens. Remember we were thrashed 7-2 by Villa in 2021 season as well.

1.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 21:12:17
Not 7-0 against the worst possible team though is it.

2.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 21:13:42
I remember some of the hideous goals they scored!

The difference here was we absolutely battered Utd.

3.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 21:29:47
Great so let’s just jack it all in because it can go both ways.

If you can’t enjoy results like yesterday what’s the point in watching football?

Will we get our butts handed to us in the future? 100% and when it happens we will have to accept it as just part of the fun.

But it would all be fairly flat if we didn’t celebrate highs because an equal low is coming somewhere along the line.

Football is a rollercoaster and that’s why it isn’t like any other sport imo. We can’t control the destination but I can guarantee I’ll enjoy the ups and downs it throws at us.

4.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 21:42:57
Absolutely spot on WYred. Yesterday wasn’t about what’s happened so far this season it’s about what can happen for the rest of the season and in the future. When we play the best we can nobody can match us. Enjoy it for what it is but also for what it can be.

5.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 21:45:50
Leeky is crying hard tonight.

6.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 22:38:23
Carpe Diem!
We were not and are not seven goals better than them and that makes it all the more sweeter.
The first half was fairly equal, we scored early in the second half, every ball seemed to go our way and then their heads went. It happened to us against Madrid.
Records will always show 7-0 and we should enjoy it because we will have days that we don't enjoy, as well.
A sense of perspective is important but I know it's not always easy because it is an emotional game.

7.) 06 Mar 2023
06 Mar 2023 22:40:58
As before, I will keep that memory for when things do not go so well.

8.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 06:42:48
Here's one for all to debate why was fernandes not punished for the push on the linesman on Sunday if that happens at any other level he gets a red card opinions please.

{Ed025's Note - for me it was something and nothing Rabh, it was hardly a push mate he just stuck his arm out basically and it touched the linesman, now i dislike him as much as anybody but come on, you won 7-0 is that not enough?or do you want all the united players lined up and shot?..

9.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:07:05
Ed025, he clearly stated he was suggesting he wanted a debate. Nobody on these pages has suggested Fernandes get shot. And what's the connection between winning 7-0 and enquiring about why a player was not punished for flagrant abuse of the rules? Or does it become a discussion only if we had lost 0-7?

It clearly wasn't a Di Canio moment, but Fernandes' behaviour throughout the game has overwhelmingly been criticized; even by ManU ex-players and supporters.

{Ed025's Note - Fernandes is a horror bag ArAy and if there was any excuse to have him banned for something i would be all for it, but we have to be sensible mate and not just look for excuses to pile more misery on united for the sake of it, thats just my opinion of course and my contribution to that debate..

10.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:08:58
Ed25 now there’s an idea ?.

{Ed025's Note - love it 1jj..

11.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:15:16
Ed25. Not a booking for me either but I think it definitely needed a talking to from the ref.

{Ed025's Note - maybe ashy but for me it was a nothing incident mate..

12.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:17:39
Bad egg that fernandes, always was. If he would just concentrate on playing he a good footballer. Di canio got 11 games for something v similar, only difference was offical didn't make meal of it this time!

{Ed025's Note - i dont think the two incidents can be compared digger..

13.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:33:47
I agree with Ed025 in that it was hardly a push. But I wouldn't say that he stuck his arm out and it touched the linesman since that would imply that it was accidental. It was intentional and just reeks of petulance.

Tbh, I am on the fence on this. What Fernandes did isn't right but a ban for it feels excessive to me.

14.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:55:10
I think keeping him on the pitch for 90 mins for the whole world to see what a sh*t bag of a player he is and the absolute worst captain in utd’s history is sweeter than giving him a card to hide behind.

15.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:55:33
I’m pretty sure Fernades kicked out at Trent when they were both off the pitch prior to even engaging with the linesman.

If Fernades does that in amateur football he gets folded like a cheap deck chair.

16.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:57:08
Ref should have simply given him a yellow and the matter would be over. Players know there will be repercussions and so would kids playing weekend football.

17.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 07:57:16
So long as all players are treated the same then fine. The problem now I suppose, is at what point is a push on an official considered to be too much?

18.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 08:01:40
Ed025, the thing is this. We see loads of incidents between players every single game, and that's fine. It's the sport and its a full contact one. That's perfectly fine. But if there is some semblance of order during a game, it's because of certain rules. And one of those rules is "no touching the refs" (paraphrasing here) . Physical incidents involving the refs are unheard of during games, and I'm sure you'll agree with this. Because the rules are clear. You can even get yellows or reds just for mouthing off to the refs, right? There's a clear line that has been set, and everyone knows it. Now take that shove, and it was a clear intentional shove, out of the context of that 7-0 drubbing, and you see it differently (at least I do) . You can't be selective about enforcing the most important rules in the game. It leads to more chaos. At least a one game ban for me, for sure. It can't be seen as an example for the kids watching, to follow.

{Ed025's Note - if it was a deliberate shove ArAy i would agree with you, how i seen it was that Fernandes had the linesman between him and the ball which he was trying to retrieve and made contact, i dont believe it was deliberate mate more of a coming together in his desperate attempt to get on with the play, some may see it differently of course but thats how it looked to me..

19.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 08:22:32
Okay Ed, I see your point. ??.

20.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 08:59:40
OP, that was not a freak result. We just battered them FIVE nil at OT 15 months ago so again, how is it a freak result. Seriously while you were watching the game and we went 3 up, did you not think we could get 5 the way things were going even a little bit? Did you not think we could get 6 or 7 after we got 5 with the way things were going? Nah, not buying that media spin led by you guessed it, Gary Neville. It is what he and the media are using to denigrate what we achieved against their darlings to make them feel better about getting their bells rung in front of the whole world.

Also keep in mind that when we got battered by RM, NOBODY in the media thought that was a freak result and we all took the banter, insults, outrage and the smoke like grown men and women and NO LFC nor rival fan thought it was a freak result. So why all of a sudden, do people think this one is? Think about it, man. IMO, This is all propaganda led by the media to cover for/ rescue 7Hag and his ponies from the fact that Utd got their arses handed to them for ALL eternity. Again, think about it.

21.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 08:50:37
Ed25, I don't know if this is still a rule BUT if you touch a ref, you get booked. If you even shove a ref like Paulo DiCanio did in the 90's and got banned for 10 games, you get sent off and get banned so NO, he should have been sent off provided the rule exists. If it doesn't then, fine. If it does and the ref did not enforce it then that is rank ref incompetence and enabling bad behaviour on the pitch regardless of who it is, end of story.

We can't keep saying that there needs to be more accountability for both player and ref conduct YET when the time comes to actually do it we start editorialising and trying to make it not so much of a big deal anymore under the guise of "Let's just get on with it" or the wretched "Just let the game flow". Pick a side. Either we want accountability across the board or we don't.

{Ed025's Note - i suppose its how you see the incident and who you support oli, it was a nothing event for me and he barely touched him, i just watched it again and the words "nothing to see here" comes to mind, if he shoved him ala di canio then i would want the book thrown at him mate but it wasn,t, your mr Klopp has been abusive to officials all season yet i dont hear a call from you to have him sanctioned so i think he should be made aware by his club about it but nothing more, mountains out of mole hills is where i see it mate..

22.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 09:25:31
I’ve been pragmatic through the tough results this season and not about to change after that demolition job of our greatest rivals.

But what I would say is that we’ve been trending in the right direction and getting our fair share of luck. Need em all to go out to help our push for top 4.

23.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 10:18:45
Considering we beat them 9-0 on aggregate last season it's hardly a freak result.

24.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 12:01:41
I come in peace, It's already been pointed out by a referee, (Dermot gallagher I think), that the linesman grabs Bruno by the arm first and holds him there for whatever reason. The linesman is then in the way when the ball is returned I think hitting the linesman whoever that was. It's a nothing incident. Are there rules for officials grabbing players arms, I don't know. At worst it's a yellow, certainly not a 10 game ban like some people would love on here.

25.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 10:00:45
But Klopp has been sanctioned for being verbally abusive towards referees, hasn't he Ed? I did recall him being fined just earlier this season.

{Ed025's Note - maybe once drac but it has been a weekly event mate, i dont think that what Fernandes done was any worse than what jurgen does to the fourth official on a regular basis myself, but im sure some will disagree..

26.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 10:54:04
Come on Ed025, Klopp was yellow carded twice by Hategan and Marciniak (UCL) in 2020, again by Tierney in 2021, and then red carded (and banned for a game) in 2022. So the book is thrown at him when he steps beyond the line, and I'm sure he's plenty aware by now. And I am okay with it. Respect the rules. And they should apply to everyone.

{Ed025's Note - im all for respect for officials ArAy but have you had a look at the fernandes incident again?, there is nothing in it mate and as much as i dislike him it is a bit of a witch hunt, a lot of managers do 10 times worse on a weekly basis..

27.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 11:31:55
Ed25, Bruno did not shove the ref like DiCanio did BUT for even touching the ref the way he did, that should be a booking and the shove (cos there was one) should have warranted a sending off with the way he did it. Again, that is the rule IF it has not been changed. If you don't want it to be enforced then, don't complain (like you do during the podcasts) when it keeps happening and then scream for accountability and for players to conduct themselves well. You enable the behaviour you refuse to punish, fact.

Oh and enuff with the whataboutism with Klopp who has actually BEEN sanctioned for his conduct before via fines and touch line bans. Oh, I don't recall him touching a ref let a lone shove one. Hasn't been sanctioned? I must have slept thru the time Klopp got sent off for yelling into the ear of a lino vs City and got RIGHTLY sent off for it so miss me with the "whataboutism" schtick. Peace and Love.

{Ed025's Note - come on oli your bigger than that mate, would you rather have a pat on the back or a bespectacled beard sporting germanic idiot right in your face spitting abuse and waving fingers in your face?..

28.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 13:08:37
Oli, at the time I felt it was worse then it was. Mainly because of the emotion in the game and because it was him and the way he had been acting.

The irony is, if Fernandes had been touched like that he would still be rolling and complaining now.

But, I have re-watched it and there is very little in it. You shouldn't touch the officials but, at best, it would be a yellow. He got away with one by not being booked but 99% sure you can't retrospectivley book someone.

As for Klopp, didn't he get his sanction for effectivley shouting in someones face. I think it was deserved. He even acknowledged he crossed the line.

29.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 13:23:23
Ed025, you must be having a really bad day, LOL. Most days you think highly of Klopp and have written so, on many occasions. Today, he's the "Germanic idiot", LOL. ?

Anyway, I'll admit I'm biased; I don't like Fernandes one bit even though he is probably the most talented player they have in that team.

{Ed025's Note - i just get fed up with the tribalism at times ArAy, a bit over the top from me i agree but i get frustrated when nobody agrees with me LOL, im the same with that scumbag fernandes mate but i think he has had a raw deal here..

30.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 13:45:04
"bespectacled beard sporting germanic idiot"
Seems a bit much.

{Ed025's Note - i couldn,t remember his name Mic.. :)

31.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 13:51:58
In an age when we are trying to promote respect to referees and there is even talk of body cams to ensure respect to referees (particularly at grass roots level where refs are consistently physically abused) what Fernandes did was show a total lack of respect to the official.

I agree with Ed25 that it was not a shove and there was nothing really in it on the face of it. However, if you look past the incident itself and look at the intent of Fernandes to basically say to the linesman ‘get out of my way’ and physically touch him to ensure he did get out of the way that shows a total lack of respect for the official.

To be honest I couldn’t care less if he got punished for it or not but refs can’t moan about being disrespected when they allow players to openly disrespect them without sanction. If the refs want respect there has to be zero tolerance of disrespecting refs. That includes shouting in their face, swearing but especially touching an official in any way, shape or form.

But we won 7-0 so who cares?!

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

32.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 14:12:21
Well said Beckers, about the need for zero tolerance in behaviour with refs.

"But we won 7-0 who cares". But are you going along with the "revisionists" who've suddenly come out of the woodwork, 2 days after the game, with their "only a freak result" or "freakish result"? It was no such thing. It was a battering, a whipping, a mauling, a smashing, a thrashing, a hammering, a clobbering, a hiding, a smacking, a spanking and a royal pounding. (I thought I would make my sentiments clear ?, and I do somewhat care about the scoreline) .

33.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 14:39:49
Ed25, I have NO beef with Bruno cos he is NOT worth my time and same applies to others like him. Im only saying his name cos HE committed the offence. Had one of ours did it, I would have said the same thing so Im not included in the whole tribalism schtick, you speak of. If that's what you thought then, you seriously misunderstood.

And BP said it best which was my point. We cannot with one side of their mouths, complain about player conduct not being brought to heel on the pitch and then with the other side of our mouths, say "oh, there's no there there" or "one is being tribalistic" and all that. Those two thoughts cannot exist at the same time.

As for the "Bearded German idiot" or whoever the heck that is again, that is of NO interest to me cos Klopp has been sanctioned for his conduct in the past and he did NOT have to shove a ref to get sanctioned.

{Ed025's Note - i know that oli and as im sure you know it was very tongue in cheek, i personally cant stand Fernandes and think he is everything thats wrong with football these days, i do have to say though if that was any other player i would dismiss it as a nothing incident but he deserves everything he gets mate..

34.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 15:58:13
Looked like a shove to me, albeit a shove that was about as effective as his play was that day.
I don’t think it’s worth retrospective punishment really, the assistant ref barely noticed it.

35.) 07 Mar 2023
07 Mar 2023 18:51:10
Ah for the days when ‘men were men and sheep were nervous’, the days when players could launch themselves into the crowd and Kung fu kick spectators. Two blokes touched each other’s arm there’s nothing to see here, thankfully the referee applied common sense.

{Ed025's Note - spot on WDW..