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26 May 2017 16:03:07
Ok ed now my mate who usually doesn't message me at all has just emailed me saying a Mellisa Reddy has said we are prepared to pay 50m for kieta and talks are ongoing. Also that VVD will attract the same figure but we are front runners. Absolute BS? If we are prepared to throw that sort of money down the drain then why not go for proven world class players. Also we don't have any interest in VVD so she along with all other journos has that totally wrong! Were do they get this stuff from?

Kloppsreds17

1.) 26 May 2017 16:40:46
You put a rumour on here, then had a go at your own rumour for being rubbish. Brilliant.


2.) 26 May 2017 16:54:32
Tommy. Your right pal 😂😂. Heads mashed with the transfer talk. Im going to be a reader not a poster for a bit I think.


 

 

22 May 2017 11:35:27
Ed002, do you think both Sturridge and Milner have played there last games for us now?

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any Liverpool plans to move Milner on at this time, but if they were to there would be no shortage of interested sides. As for Sturridge the club hasmade him available but the problem will be his availablity to play given he has struggled with injuries for so long. That would make him difficult to sell.}


1.) 22 May 2017 13:16:34
Would love if the club took a gamble on him until January. He can unlock those so called lesser teams who go out to defend and counter attack with his trickery inside the box. If we were lucky enough to get an injury free run from him it would be win win on and off the pitch.


2.) 22 May 2017 18:35:57
I hope milner isn't even up suggestion leaving wise, the man played out of position the whole season abd didn't complain once, respect too James milner.


3.) 22 May 2017 18:22:57
Interesting about Millie Ed 2. I would have thought he would be pretty much un-move-onable due to his high wage. I hope we keep him for all sorts of reasons, but I didn't think that there would be many clubs that could afford him that would need him.

{Ed002's Note - His wages are irrelevant if he moves.}


 

 

20 May 2017 12:47:03
Hi Ed. I will probably get told to rtp mate but very interested to if there is any update on Luan or any other Strikers at this stage please?

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - A third party working on behalf of Milan is working to see what it would take financially to resolve Luan's ownership issues. As I have previously explained, there has been no offer from or agreement with Liverpool for the player. Liverpool has had representatives at a couple of games in France over the past week, one of which was Bordeaux against Marseille where they would be looking again at Malcom.}


1.) 20 May 2017 13:23:18
Do you rate malcolm? Never seen him play and no nothing about him. cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not really one to "rate" players but Malcom was of interest to Barcelona, Olympique Marseille, Dynamo Kyiv, Chelsea and Juventus before he left Corinthians for a loan at Girodins Bordeaux to gain some experience. At the time he was expected to join Chelsea but the issues surrounding his ownership was a mess, to say the least. Bordeaux worked hard to untangle matters and persuaded the player to sign a permanent deal which ended a very ugly third party ownership deal with multiple parties involved in January 2016. The head of scouting in France for Chelsea has continued to watch Malcom with scouts from Braga, Juventus, Porto, Liverpool, Southampton, Manchester United and I imagine others taking an interest and watching him play.}


2.) 20 May 2017 16:11:53
Cheers Ed. Is he an out and out Striker mate? Seems to be Winger unless he been playing out of position?

{Ed002's Note - He is a Mane type of player (primarily a right winger who can play as a striker or left winger) which is why it seems an odd choice to me.}


3.) 20 May 2017 16:30:51
It is odd that we are watching him I agree. Especially if his first spot is RW. We need an out and out LW and an out and out Striker, (as long as Sturridge is still leaving) .

{Ed002's Note - A number of the players Liverpool has looked at have been RWs who are versatile. Brandt remains the favoured LW but it will take a commitment on behalf of Liverpool or a change of heart from him.}


4.) 20 May 2017 16:44:12
Brandt would be a great signing if we could get it done imo. Thanks for the info ed.


5.) 20 May 2017 19:16:13
Malcom is rapid and skilful a lot like mane not sure of his end product. He seems to play on the right but be left footed. Maybe klopp thinks he can convert him to play on the left or maybe he may switch mane left Malcom right so they both cut in and allow the hopefully new attacking full backs space out wide?


6.) 20 May 2017 19:46:49
Mané could surely be at least as effective at LW. Better to bring in a suitable RW ahead of an OK LW, and convert Mané.


7.) 21 May 2017 07:47:27
Maybe Klopp sees him as an out and out frontman so he could have Malcolm in the middle.


8.) 21 May 2017 09:15:26
We could play Malcom in the middle just behind the front two, effectively 2 1/ 2 men up front. They could all be good friends imo almost like a modern family. I hear he is a family guy, so we will see.


9.) 21 May 2017 13:38:44
Malcolm in the middle, 😁😁😁😁.


10.) 21 May 2017 20:34:49
Malcom is a left footed player and should have no problem switching over to the left wing.


 

 

18 May 2017 12:15:17
Hi ed. You mentioned a while back that Barca's reps are due to meet with Lfc's people in London again to duscuss Coutinho. Im just interested to learn if this has happened as of yet please and if any outcome was reached at this stage? Thanks in advance.

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - At present Kia Joorabchian is handling discussions.}


1.) 18 May 2017 14:35:32
While adding a left back and left winger are important this summer, keeping our best players is going to make or break it being a good window or not.


2.) 18 May 2017 14:35:29
Eds, presumably by the very nature of these talks going ahead, it means Liverpool are willing to sell him. What else is the point of meeting with them?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool said when first approached that they do not wish to sell. Clubs regularly meet with other clubs and agents.}


3.) 18 May 2017 14:36:16
I thought Liverpool were not interested in selling Coutinho, Ed, will their stance change? Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps.}


4.) 18 May 2017 14:54:29
Is coutinho looking to push for the move? I know you said he had discussed it with international team mates in the past.

{Ed002's Note - His agent is pushing and would not do so if the player was against it.}


5.) 18 May 2017 15:05:27
Replacing him will be a challenge. It reminds me of the Alexis Sanchez transfer that never happened. Replacing quality players is very difficult for a club like us. This constant selling of our top players (bar Saurez) is taking us backwards. I just hope he is genuinely happy at liverpool and refuses the move for now.


6.) 18 May 2017 15:42:56
If coutinho does want a move then all we can do is wish him well squeeze every million we can out of Barca. £70 mill I'd take then that's give us the opportunity to invest in a couple of decent players. Not sure who I would like that's above my pay grade. I would prefer him to stay but in this day an age loyalty is non exsistant. If he stays then I hope the club play him centrally an we match him ambitions with the players we buy. Some of the players were 'linked' with worry me. It's time too stop thinking about the future am buying potentially good kids an start buying proven quality and if that's means £50 mill players then so be it for far to long we have been out muscled in the transfer market we're Liverpool fc an the club an more importantly the fans deserve too wowed in the market. I don't know who I would buy or who I would sell thays klopps department but whatever happens i will 100% back the club an the players who pull that shirt on.


7.) 18 May 2017 16:15:27
Ed. Would you think the players we are already targeting currently that you have mentioned are in a view to replacing him or could our targets change if he did leave?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would seek a replacement. Right now they are not looking to sell.}


8.) 18 May 2017 18:46:32
If you believe Barcelona will spend most of their budget on one player they don't need you'll believe anything.


9.) 18 May 2017 19:12:07
Ed002 am I right in saying you have previously suggested we could look to Max Meyer if Coutinho were to leave?

Could explain the info Waro got yesterday if the Coutinho sale has got legs.

{Ed002's Note - Max Meyer fits the bill of a young attacking midfield player which prompted previous bids from Chelsea (who would have sent him on loan for one season before integrating him in to the squad) and Fiorentina in 2014. Schalke 04 do not want to sell the player and made it clear to Spurs and Milan who were showing an interest this past summer that any move was unlikely - going as far as turning down an offer of €47M. The player has shared his desire to play in Spain with Real Madrid or Barcelona or to play in England. Other sides such as Bayern Munich, Liverpool and Arsenal watched him last season but had no real interest. If Liverpool were to lose Coutinho and/or Firmino he could be a player they may look to but right now they haven't. Spurs remain interested.}


10.) 18 May 2017 20:02:28
We should be building the squad around Coutinho not selling him. If we want to compete for the title and in the CL then we keep our star man. Can't understand fans that are happy with selling him? Baffling.


11.) 18 May 2017 20:00:59
Hi eds - how much does a World Cup coming up play into plans of a player/ agent? Surely playing 40+ games as a starter is better than being a squad player for a "bigger" team to secure a starting place for your country? Or are they not as forward thinking?

{Ed002's Note - Players are not going to move a club that he doesn't want to in order to play more to get in to a World Cup squad.}


12.) 18 May 2017 20:03:33
No player is bigger than the club.


13.) 18 May 2017 20:23:13
Reaper, you are fabricating things in your head mate. Nobody is happy if Coutinho is really leaving.

However, not everybody is a whining fanboy who over exaggerrates the impact of losing 1 player. In the last 8 years we have lost Alonso, Reina, Mascherano, Gerrard, Hyypia, Agger, Carragher, Sissoko, Torres, Suarez, Kuyt and Sterling.

Yet in that time we have gone from being a top 6 team to being, you guessed it, a top 6 team with a couple of title challenges and 4 cup finals in that time. Now we are looking to kick on and improve. Spurs did exactly that by selling Bale for £80m and then building a team with that cash so have a little faith. Klopp has made 2 major signings so far and Mane is our top scorer, with Gini our top assister!

Just look at that list of players we have lost in the last 8 years though. Now tell me we can't cope with losing 1 of our better players this summer! Doesn't mean I'm happy about it. I'd be happiest if he wants to stay. However I am a Liverpool fan, not a Coutinho fan. As the great Ed002 would say, "players are transient employees".


14.) 18 May 2017 21:36:56
You are usually on the ball mk but tottenham were dreadful the season they sold bale. not one player from that season signed is even in their current xi. How many are even left? Lamela only off top of my head.

By the way if we pulled off Lamela and Soldado off that year we would all have been overjoyed so to everyone else spendong big on "proven" or "marquee" doesn't always work.

I trust in Klopp, we have been unlcuky with injuries, specifically the captain Henderson who grows with every game. Okay I believe that keeping Coutinho is essential to a title challenge and I think we will lose him, but like I say I have faith in our manager who has already got us 2 cup finals and top 4 in 1 and a half seasons. he knows what he is doing

Ynwa.


15.) 19 May 2017 03:16:14
SPURS now have a top manager/ coach.
As have Chelsea, City, Utd, Arsenal and ourselves.

Our record in games against these top coachs's is excellent to date;so, hopefully a few signings to give us a bit of an alternate plan to
help us move the parked busses should do the trick

We really were not that far away this year. * (hopefully Middlesbrough are already using their bus for Summer Hols.

But the dark days of Roy Hodgson are thankfully long Gone.

We are now contenders who have beaten all above us.


16.) 19 May 2017 10:30:17
If he wants to go, let him go. Try to get as much money for him as possible and move on.

Use the money towards a world-class training facility, academy, and to hire the people who scout, develop and train the players at the likes of Southampton, Monaco, Juventus and Red Bull Leipzig.


17.) 19 May 2017 20:46:44
The summer they sold Bale Spurs signed Paulinho, Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela all of whom had impacts on the first time. Eriksen is now their best player. Admittedly though Chiriches, Capoue and Soldado were all duds.

You can easily argue that the sale of Bale helped to both fast track and fund their massive redevelopment in terms of both training facilities and stadium. Not to mention that 4 out of the 7 players were a success even if Paulinho and Chadli have since moved on.

Whatever way look at it, and you can easily make a fair argument that selling Bale hundreds them as much as it helped them, they sold him and became title challengers in the long run. Which just goes to show that selling your best players is not the end of the world, even if it is not the desired outcome!


 

 

14 May 2017 20:49:11
Ed is Luan being looked at as a Striker or an alternative to Brandt? Also the fact he wasnt on the latest Sharkopod does this mean we have moved on from someone else?

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - I suspect you can put aside Azmoun and Dembele now.}


1.) 14 May 2017 21:17:42
Ed Do you Rate Luan?

{Ed002's Note - I reall don't like "rating" players Adam.


2.) 14 May 2017 21:32:32
Are our interest in Luan serious ed?

{Ed002's Note - There is certainly interest.}


3.) 14 May 2017 22:23:33
Cheers ed mate!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


4.) 14 May 2017 22:31:11
Cheers for reply ed. Would of liked Dembele. Happy with the players were linked with including Robertson. Thanks again mate.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


5.) 14 May 2017 23:18:51
Do you see dembele staying at Celtic.

{Ed002's Note - Not necessarily.}


6.) 15 May 2017 13:11:55
Have we moved on because of his playing demands ed?

{Ed002's Note - Neither player wants the move - Azmoun because he would be on the bench and I would think Dembele the same.}


 

 

 

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29 May 2017 14:24:44
Eds would you expect our Strikers next season to be Ings Origi Firmino and another arrival or might Ings or Origi be moved on?

Also on the striker front has there been any development with Luan at this stage please? Can we forget about Dembele altogether?

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - Nothing at all has changed - I have explained over and over about Luan and Dembele. I have explained the club has made no efforts to sell Ings or Origi. Asking the same questions and repeatedly asking has anything changed really doesn't help.}


1.) 29 May 2017 15:48:20
Ok ed fair enough. Sorry.


2.) 29 May 2017 19:37:33
Ings should probably get fit and go out on loan, that would be the best thing for him and the club. Origi should stay especially with Sturridge likely to go. At times I feel like Sturridge is just a complete lost cause unfortunantly, at other times I feel maybe (even with his recurring injuries) he'd still contribute something worth keeping. At the end of the day, if we get a decent replacement then I'd be happy to let him go. It's sad but we have to move onwards and upwards.


 

 

26 May 2017 10:04:48
Im reading it will take a bid of around 50m for Kieta. Fifty million squid. I might be wrong but I can't see us blowing that on one player. That will be a huge chunk of our budget gone. I would rather us push for Paredes or Carvalho.

Kloppsreds17

1.) 26 May 2017 10:16:31
With that price tag, we are not signing Keita. There are more priority positions that need immediate attention like LB, RB, LW and CB. Hope Klopp sorts those out before looking for luxury signings. Our midfield personnel is way more equipped than our defense or wide men to handle a title so let's sign some goddamn wingers and defenders before looking to luxuries.


2.) 26 May 2017 10:34:29
I agree IB to a degree although we do need another CM mate. Lucas leaving and with Hendo's fitness issues we need more options. Im not sure of the chances of Either Carvalho or Paredes but ed001 has said we are interested.


3.) 26 May 2017 10:52:34
You have to understand 50 million is today just what you have to pay to buy one quality player. that is how the market is.
50 million is the new 10 million. all of us fans barging about money should stop it. None of us know what money is available to spend.


4.) 26 May 2017 11:07:37
Akshit, except that I would rather spend 50 million on one player (if that sort of money is made available) that operates in a position that needs immediate attention. And i doubt such a big sum will be spent on a midfielder.
Rather sign the best fullbacks and a CB available willing to join us (irrespective of their costs) and then maybe next summer we can spend big on a midfielder.


5.) 26 May 2017 11:35:05
Maybe in a few years 50 million will be the new 10 million. But I think in general you are right comma we used to talk about a 20 million player now it seems to be somewhere between 30 to 50 now. But the points remains that and some cases for a special player and then area of the purchase you need to improve sometimes you just need to spend. Whether that is for keita or not I don't know.


6.) 26 May 2017 11:52:30
It is very relative. i think i player in the mold of keita a complete powerhouse of a midfielder helps the team overall defense and attack. yes we have immediate needs like LB, LW as mentioned but we are not being linked with the right kind of players.
Keita is only serious talent we are being linked to ( albeit newspapers only, none of the eds have confirmed this i believe)
Say if we loose keita to mancity or united i'd be gutted because he is a type of player that will improve those clubs and ours.
and if i have learned something from modern day football is that there is nothing as too many good players. else Clubs like real madrid, bayern etc would cease to function.
The ones that perform the best match in match out should be in the team.
Btw the only reason we have not won the title this season is because of not having adequate quality in our ranks to cover for our first team. it had hardly to do much with our defense, we have a tosh defense anyways, but we lost/ drew games because we couldn't score against/ open tight defenses. Having enough quality never harms anyone.
so i don't want to go for a LB LW just for sake of our requirement when right player is not available.


7.) 26 May 2017 11:55:00
The fact is chaps we will not blow 50m on one player (right or wrong) and if we do that will be about our lot.

If they are demanding that figure for Kieta then we might as well not waste our time monitoring him for months and go for players we can afford.


8.) 26 May 2017 11:58:27
If you look at the prices being thrown around for players atm. We can very much say that we will spend 50 million on one player. Real Madrid bought a lad who has played something like 15 mins of senior football in Brazil for how much? We are looking 30 million for a defender who although good we are desperate to get rid of. And 30 to 40 for a striker who can't stay fit for a full week. 😅 forget the numbers money, let the owners worry about that.


9.) 26 May 2017 12:42:28
It is not a fact kloppsred17. It is what you assume. It will become a fact if we do not spend 50M on a player this summer. Until then its an assumption.
The thing is we need only two very good players to sort our team out and these players need to be of first team genuine quality.


10.) 26 May 2017 13:28:20
Can you imagine how many nectar points you'd get from buying 50 million squid!


11.) 26 May 2017 14:23:34
But Keita is a fine player. I'm torn on whether we should spend a significant portion of our budget on him or strengthen other areas first. Keita I'm convinced will be a world beater in a couple of years so if FSG have the stomach to buy 5 top players ( 2 LBs, a RB, LW, ST, CM) then I say they should do it.
City just paid 60 million pounds for Bernardo Silva and set to shell out another 35 million on Mendy. The level of competition is going to be fierce and LFC needs the stomach to face it.


12.) 26 May 2017 14:35:54
I personally think we need a quality CM to protect our back 4 more than we need a LW. Would take both tbh, but only after are fullbacks are purchased.


13.) 26 May 2017 14:46:34
City have a financial advantage over us mate as do Utd. We will just have to do what we can in the market and see were it takes us.


14.) 26 May 2017 17:34:56
I have said repeatedly that we will NOT be signing Keita for obvious reasons. RBL are in CL, they have got bottomless pits of money, Keita is not willing to leave and RBL is not willing to sell. All these add to the 50m evaluation which supports the points made above.

Akshit, 50m is 50m and that is it. We will not be signing a midfielder for 50m nor any player for that matter. Even Kante did not cost that when Chelsea signed him and he is light years ahead of Keita.

Klopp doesn't roll like that so that is all the evidence you need until he proves us wrong.50m should be reserved for a player who will improve us in the area that matters: goals and assists. Absent of that, 50m is crazy. I wouldn't even pay that for VVD cos he's not worth it neither is Keita.


15.) 26 May 2017 17:43:38
I remember Hansen saying that having a top class centre midfielder like Souness in the team made them feel indestructible. I'm not saying Keita is on that level, but if you want to win things you need a strong centre midfield.


 

 

25 May 2017 09:29:16
Hi ed. Just reading the Echo (sigh) I no. Its saying that Gremio are saying there has been no contact or offer from Lfc for Luan and the speculation has led to the player getting an improved deal with clauses not allowing a sale to Europe based clubs. Unless i've got it wrong.

Is this a new development that will hamper our attempts now or does the situation with him remain as youve explained?

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over that Liverpool had not made an offer and that there could be nothing done without resolving his ownership issues. Read the post please.}


 

 

23 May 2017 08:46:05
Mornning ed002

Are we due a new Sharkopod mate? Im not pushing, just asking that's all as not sure how you schedule them.

Kloppsreds17

{Ed002's Note - Not right now - there are others to be done first.}


 

 

22 May 2017 16:13:27
Good afternoon ed001

Are you getting through your workload mate? Are we still on for your own little Transfer update as promised this evening? 🤔🤔.

Kloppsreds17

{Ed001's Note - oh shoot I forgot about that the missus dragged me for a walk by the creek. I will do it as soon as i get in.}


1.) 22 May 2017 18:26:04
Lol. No problem mate. Hope your not up sh#t creek without a paddle😂😂

Looking forward to your in depth update mate 🤔🤔.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, it is just nice to walk there as there is a lovely cool breeze. Though the missus might disagree about whether I am up the creek without a paddle or not...}


2.) 22 May 2017 19:29:38
Lol. Good stuff mate.


3.) 22 May 2017 20:29:01
Ed 1, that sounded like a proper Home 'n' away reply that.

{Ed007's Note -


 

 

 

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29 May 2017 14:20:05
Spionpress can I ask were your getting your info from please? Or at least is it trusted?

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29 May 2017 12:27:56
Player doesn't fancy the move either? The longer this go's on and the more you and ed002 explain the situation developing we might as well move onto other options imo. Everything that has been said so far makes it sound almost impossible, especially if the player is against the move.

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29 May 2017 08:59:41
Ok mate fair enough, any other names youve been told or is that about were we are at currently?

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29 May 2017 08:36:43
Ed taking on board what youve said about Kieta, are we chasing other options in CM? Ed001 mentioned Carvalho and Paredes as viable options last week so wondered if efforts are being made currently, or does it seem all out for Kieta at this stage.

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{Ed001's Note - we are keeping our options open mate, Keita is unlikely, hence the other options. I think Carvalho has been decided against now and looks extremely unlikely.}


 

 

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28 May 2017 20:15:35
Ed it must be quite challenging for you keeping up with all these done deals. Im really hoping we can get the Kieta one over the line soon though.

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29 May 2017 15:48:20
Ok ed fair enough. Sorry.

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29 May 2017 15:12:02
Its not people knocking him its more to the point the figure being branded about. On top of that, our interest isn't there and we have the 4 centre backs already at the club, 2 of which Klopp purchased.

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28 May 2017 15:39:39
Do you think they might be persuaded ed, money talks I guess.

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{Ed002's Note - They certainly don't need the money.}


 

 

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28 May 2017 11:19:34
Ok mate thank you for the update as usual. I guess will see what develops. We must at least think a deal can be done if we are still persuing him. I just hope we are not held to ransom.

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28 May 2017 10:05:45
Sounds like it could be a hard deal to get done, can't fault there stance on not wanting to sell there best players. Is there a release clause in place also.

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{Ed002's Note - A release clause would be of no relevance. You need to forget about them.}