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26 Sep 2018 13:36:27
Unlucky for Grujic who ruptured a ligament in his ankle this week.

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26 Sep 2018 09:06:09
Ed, can you do an article on Wilson's free-kick last night. It was that good.

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it yes but no, it was just one free kick.}

26 Sep 2018 09:30:52
Hurry up and check it out Ed, its out of this world.

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26 Sep 2018 09:39:30
He just absolutely spanked the ball didn't he? He struck it with such beauty.

I watched the game from start to finish and Wilson was a threat through out.

I hope he keeps up this form!

Red Sandman.

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26 Sep 2018 09:44:30
Yeah honestly Ed001 do give it a looksy. I've watched it fifty times and still can't quite wrap my head around the physics of it.

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26 Sep 2018 09:52:21
What a goal! Haven't seen that technique used that often. Do you think he has ever trained with Philip coutinio? Good lad giving it the "five times"

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26 Sep 2018 09:49:48
If the lad continues, he's going to be something special for us next season.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath Salah.}

26 Sep 2018 09:59:44
That is a true knuckle ball. Not seen one like that since Roberts Carlos. Absolutely pied the goalie.

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26 Sep 2018 09:59:27
Keeper probably should have kept that out 😉.

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26 Sep 2018 10:05:06
Ed2! how are you mate? you well?

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{Ed002's Note - I am indeed in reasonable shape thanks. And are you back up and running?}

26 Sep 2018 10:13:40
Glad to hear it Ed2. Chance would be a fine thing mate, but I'm getting there. I can't really moan, I'm just bored and frustrated more than anything but it doesn't last forever so I'm just looking forward to the future :) . Take care mate.

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{Ed002's Note - You have the niftiest of days Salah.}

26 Sep 2018 10:27:22
Thank you Ed. You too.

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26 Sep 2018 10:37:31
Hi ed2, just a quick one and I understand if you don't want to expand, but its seems your not convinced that Wilson will get the first team opportunities at Liverpool, I'm just surprised that a young player who shows his ability regularly still probably won't be considered for a place in the squad next season, any reason why you think that might be the case?

Many Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - The owners have made it clear that they indend to buy the Premier League title and Klopp has made it clear he has changed tact and all of his previous statements about building from within are out of the window. Right now, the likes of Grujic, Ojo, Woodburn and Wilson (plus the likes of Allan and Awoniyi who are in limbo) are getting first team football and will have to consider their futures. Do they look to continue their progression or (if the opportunity arises) or risk being the new Chirivella who trains with the first team squad but in reality has little chance of playing and no chance of playing regularly. maybe they will keep their eye on how much game time Brewster gets when fully fit, he was promised that he would be integrated and used regularly - but the players will be aware that Grujic was promised all sorts that also never came true. If Liverpool were to really get their act together regarding progression, loans etc., I am sure it would ease the issue. And I should say that this is not something that is peculiar to Liverpool, other clubs suffer in just the same way - Everton has a player in Lookman who after playing in Germany at a high-level does not want to be third or fourth pick at Everton, Nathanial Chalobah left Chelsea to get first team football, Serge Gnabry is only now building up a good career after leaving Arsenal a couple of years ago, etc..}

26 Sep 2018 11:45:26
Very insightful Ed but I'm sure some players, example TAA have a chance to gradually make it to the first team.

Wilson continues to impress if he were to progress as everyone wants surely he can take Lallana's place in the squad next season and maybe be a first teamer some day?

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{Ed002's Note - As I said, he will want to play. Lallana doesn't play.}

26 Sep 2018 12:19:35
I am with Ed002 on this one. If Wilson stayed behind without going out on loan at max he will be in bench tonight. I expect another loan but to PL club next season.

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26 Sep 2018 12:43:40
Thanks for the in depth reply, i find myself agreeing with you about the majority of the youngsters, although none of them have performed as well as Wilson, excluding Chirivella who did well but then knocked back Rosenberg, his situation is in part his own making. Brewster will be an interesting one because regardless of talent, how do you drop Bobby and Studge unless injured.

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{Ed002's Note - I appreciate Brewster is injured at the moment but he has a great deal of potential at a young age and Chelsea were disappointed when he left - the issue is that yet again he is a player who has had promises made to him that really don't align with what the club is doing. Chirivella is one who will need to make a decision soon.}

26 Sep 2018 12:46:56
Gulacsi, Suso, Luis Alberto etc. etc.

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26 Sep 2018 13:40:49
As you point out Ed002 mate, this is not peculiar to LFC alone. Do you think we have a problem with player development in this country? What would you opine could be done? Is FIFA right to limit loans.

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the country it is the approach taken by individual clubs that t is the real issue with loans - although the English sides generally don't have a particularly good approach.

I think there has been a great deal of misunderstanding about the proposals FIFA has.}

26 Sep 2018 13:50:48
Just to clarify Ed002 - did Chirivella not decide to leave but fail to secure his move? I neither want this nor hope for this but it was my understanding of the summer events, is that not correct? Assuming it is, I very much hope we do better in proving to others that they will get time and make room in the squad for them.

On the wider point, it's time to stop filling the bench with players who are unlikely to have huge tactical importance as a sub, and who won't benefit from shorter appearances. When we are winning comfortably we are good enough to take risks without too much concern that it'll actually cost us and get some people in that would actually benefit from half an hour of football with the first team every other week at least. Southampton and West Ham are already two great wasted opportunities where at least one player of our aspiring youth could have had a no risk 20 minutes of football. It needs to happen. And if you don't think it's important then consider this - imagine the CL final except when Salah went off we bought on another winger full of pace and willingness to shoot instead of someone completely different who made the entire team and tactics not click (not Lallana's fault just not a role he could do even in his price) . Quality might not be the same, but at least it would give a chance to still get the best out of the rest of our stars. Had we been putting in either Woodburn on Wilson every time we opened up a three goal lead last season, that might have been an actual option and then who knows?

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{Ed002's Note - Pedro Chirivella rejected the opportunity to move and now is no more than fluff for the first team.}

26 Sep 2018 13:53:32
I've never really liked Frank lampard but when I think why it's because he was really good and didn't play for Liverpool. I think Derby is a good place for Wilson atm, lampard is an intelligent bloke and I reckon the sort of coach who will improve players, especially attacking players.

A balance between home grown youngsters and multi million pound stars is a tough one. Over the last 2 seasons gomez, Alexander Arnold and dom solanke have all had significant game time. Brewster has been promoted to the first team and I'm sure if he impresses in training he will get a shot.

Klopp gave the pre season to the youngsters as well. If we played all the youngsters mentioned we would not be top of the league, we may even be struggling. I don't think Liverpool are the worst offenders, at least kids know it is possible at Liverpool. Solanke got a good shot last season and although he played well, unfortunately he didn't stamp a claim on the team.

Also we crashed out of both cups early on last season and I reckon we would have seen more of the young team. Hopefully we get past Chelsea tonight and have some games against lower league teams this season.

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26 Sep 2018 08:37:46
Hi eds and fellow reds. just wanted to ask your opinion on naby. whether he is just being rested, or hasn't started like what was expected of him by klopp. i mean am I reading too much into it, or does klopp think there's work to do with him also as is that case with fabinho.

Thanks in advance mate,

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26 Sep 2018 08:45:37
I think it's a bit of needing to understand the system fully and getting to grips with a new environment, country, and league.
I'm not worried at this stage.

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26 Sep 2018 09:50:41
Agreed Aussie, hit the nail on the head there mate. I don't think there's any issues, he's just adapting that's all.

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26 Sep 2018 13:50:17
4 starts and 2 sub appearances in 7 games is pretty decent I'd say for a new joiner!

I am personally delighted with the depth and rotation in the midfield so far Milner, Gini, Keita, Hendo and even Shaq all swapping in pretty seamlessly and also raising each others' games. How Fabinho or Lallana fit in is another question!

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26 Sep 2018 07:45:57
Hope the team is kept consistent tonight with maybe only 3-4 changes
I think Migs may play, Matip in for VVD and Milner rested with Keita playing and possibly Salah rested for Shaquiri?
Eds what are your thoughts?

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{Ed001's Note - I expect a lot of changes to be honest. Firmino won't start for defo.}

26 Sep 2018 08:34:39
I’m torn between keeping the winning run going and resting a few for Saturday. Ultimately I think most will be rested apart from Gomez and Milly perhaps.
Migs
Clyne Gomez Matip Moreno
Fabinho Milly Keita
Big Shaq Studge Solanke/ Origi

I’m not sure if Solanke or Origi are fit yet so I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mane if they can’t play.

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26 Sep 2018 09:38:56
Origi has a ankle injury, Doms recovered from a concussion Klopp said yesterday, I hope he mixes it up

433
Migs
Clyne Matip Lovren Moreno
Fabinho
Henderson Keita
Shaq Studge Mane


Or he might go with a diamond and play Shaq behind Studge and Dom to give Mane a rest

I'm really hopefully Curtis Jones, Matt Phillips, Rafa Camacho get some sort of game time they all played fantastic in pre season.

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26 Sep 2018 09:57:16
I wouldn’t play Migs. we want to win the cups, right?

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26 Sep 2018 11:44:42
Migs, Matip, Lovren, Clyne, Moreno, Keita, Fabinho, Milner, Shaq, Sturridge, Mane.
Substitute Mane and Milner if we get a healthy lead for the likes of Curtis Jones and Chirivella.

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26 Sep 2018 12:54:51
Let’s give the lad a chance he wanted to leave and didn’t get it me personally I hope he as a fantastic game and progresses in the cup side.

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26 Sep 2018 13:55:28
Migs
Trent matip gomez moreno
Keita. Fabhino. Henderson
Shaqiri. Sturridge. Lallana.

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Review Of The Day 26th September 2018

26 Sep 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 26th September 2018

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26 Sep 2018 07:40:27
Morning R / edmen.
Who’s first out of the door then, Pogba or Mourinho?

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26 Sep 2018 07:47:01
Cheers Ed, hope you have a good day mate.

TJ, Pogba hopefully mate, the longer Mourinho is there the better ;) but I don't think he'll be there much longer mate.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. Recovering from a stint at gitmo, sorry I mean the dentist yesterday, so my day is not the best. Are all dentists just sadists at heart??}

26 Sep 2018 07:52:21
What would they get for Pogba in January? How much will it cost them to sack Mou? I wonder if Mou's received more in severance pay than actual wages the last 10 years?
I know they're bitter rivals, but you've got to feel a bit sorry for the die hard Utd fan. They deserve much more than what's happening on and off the pitch at the moment. Can't believe I'm saying that.

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26 Sep 2018 09:03:33
I almost feel your pain Ed mate, I'm meant to be in there in a fortnight, I'm dreading it! need a few taking out I think, I bloody hate the dentist, last time I went was a disaster so I'm anxious as hell about it now. What goes around comes around I guess, when the boy goes there I usually mess about taking the piss and make him laugh when he's sat there but now it's my turn and I don't find it very funny at all hahaha! Hope you feel better soon mate.

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{Ed001's Note - it is having teeth out that are the worst, I was just glad the one I had out last night wasn't fused to the bone like the previous time I had teeth out. That was horrible.}

26 Sep 2018 09:03:44
I think it's going to be Mourinho. The decision has probably been already made; it's a question of when a suitable replacement becomes available. Probably next summer. Letting Pogba go would be like sprinkling salt on an open wound. Having him twice and yet being unable to get the best out of him, unlike Juventus.

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26 Sep 2018 09:12:11
Thanks for the review Ed. Rossi pull the other one son, 'an involuntary food contamination' yeah containing cocaine. Ooops!
I'm loving the UTD situation and couldn't careless about the utd fans deserving better. Long may their misery continue :)

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{Ed001's Note - it wasn't cocaine was it?}

26 Sep 2018 09:13:04
Not all dentists are sadists. You just can't afford the couple that arent.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't believe that, they have to be sadists to want to be a dentist.}

26 Sep 2018 09:39:12
Ed, you had a tooth fused to the bone? bloody hell mate that makes me cringe, I need three out I think, I hope none of mine are!

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{Ed001's Note - two were fused to the bone. Worst pain I have ever known.}

26 Sep 2018 09:56:36
Good article Ed001 mate! I also thought that Rossi was in trouble because the Dorzolamide is a masking agent and he's been caught by his own testimony. the dorzolamide is likely just masking steroidal use to overcome his injury problems. his injury record speaks for itself but to be honest I'm not sure what I'd of done in his place.

As for Duchatelet, he's hilarious! What is brilliant is the supporters’ group The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) especially when they led a protest against the billionaire’s ownership, by throwing bags of crisps onto the pitch in the match against Fleetwood in response to a Evening Standard Sport story that a Charlton employee sought permission to eat crisps at their desk, owing to cutbacks on the use of cleaners. Didn't he also stop the players having bottles of water because he drinks from a tap and said it's more environmentally friendly? LOL.

Great stuff as always mate.

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{Ed001's Note - Duchatelet is a whack job to be fair.}

26 Sep 2018 09:50:13
I see what you two (Salah and Ed001) are doing there - the analogy between getting teeth pulled and watching Mourinho’s Man Utd!
Very good chaps.
And it could be worse, imagine having to pay for a season ticket to the dentists, haha.

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26 Sep 2018 10:45:01
Ed, I think that dentists are angry people anyway because at heart they all wanted to be a physician or surgeon, but couldn't get out of medical school. So, they take it out on us patients. Have a great day everyone.

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{Ed001's Note - Fowler help you on your next trip to the dentist if s/he sees this!!!}

26 Sep 2018 12:21:46
So if loan system if max 6 players then it could affect both club and players. These may be good at in one view. No club will stockpile the youth players. I think this will allow clubs to restructure or rethink about signing a player.

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{Ed002's Note - There is no proposal to limit the loan system to six players. You have misunderstood something somewhere.}

26 Sep 2018 13:33:56
Stone, you are doomed now mate ;) .

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26 Sep 2018 04:07:10
I just watched the highlights of our champs league run last year. Easy to forget how shaky our defense and finishing looked early on in the group stages. Pretty amazing to see how much we've improved from then to now, totally buzzing about our potential this year and looking forward to see what this team can do.

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26 Sep 2018 05:56:17
It's crazy really isn't it Manahawinred how quickly Klopp turned it around by buying Robbo, VVD, putting in Trent and more recently giving Gomez his chance. Not to mention bringing in Alisson. Before that lineup we were leaking in goals far too much so credit has to go to Klopp and the club for addressing the biggest issue we had.

Speaking of defences, Ed1 what team in the premier league would you say currently has the best defence? it's a hard one for me but I'm trying to think of one better than ours and I can't! but you watch more then me so it'd be interesting to hear your views mate.

Somebody tried telling me Man City had the best defence the other day lol I'm still convinced he was just trying to wind me up! Ederson and the defenders can't handle pressure at all and this has been shown every single time a team attacks them! which is why I wish to god more teams would attack them more. It's their biggest weakness and needs exploiting more.

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{Ed001's Note - the figures suggest Liverpool's is the best in the league over the last few months. Watching the teams play, I can't think of a better one to argue with the figures over. Certainly not City, who are bloody hopeless defensively, it is just that teams do not get enough of the ball to test out the defence as a rule.}

26 Sep 2018 07:15:52
Cheers Ed, always good to have your opinion mate!

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{Ed001's Note - it has been a long time since we had such a solid defence.}

26 Sep 2018 08:17:50
"A good offense is the best defense" this statement really epitomizes Mancity if you just replace good with extremely good.

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26 Sep 2018 08:23:30
It’s the best defence in the league since we lost to spurs last season Ed.

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26 Sep 2018 08:26:07
It would have to be between us and Spurs for me but I think we edge it. Spurs haven’t been as solid since Sanchez came in and Toby has been injured/ trying to escape Levy’s London Dungeon.

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26 Sep 2018 11:48:41
The last benchmark defense for the premier league was definitely Conte's team in its first season.

We need to keep doing it consistently for a period of time and I am so hopefully that we will.

This team and coach really needs to and deserves to win trophies and hopefully we will!

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26 Sep 2018 02:19:10
Hello all. I did say last season that harry wilson looked like a young ferndo torres, even more so now. get in there harry lad!

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26 Sep 2018 05:20:44
How do you see them as similar. Torres at LFC based much of his game around pace and power - the exact opposite of Wilson.

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26 Sep 2018 05:37:44
I think he means they look similar in their physical appearance rather than playing style.

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26 Sep 2018 07:22:54
Correct Kramer, the way he moves, runs etc. Very Torresey lol.

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25 Sep 2018 21:27:01
Harry Wilson take a bow. Fantastic goal.

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25 Sep 2018 21:29:16
And now he's done Romero outside the box.

Red card. :D.

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25 Sep 2018 21:48:37
Class, get in lad.

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25 Sep 2018 22:03:38
Scott Carson and Andre Wisdom in the Derby team too, btw.

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25 Sep 2018 22:31:38
Get in. Liverpool Ressies just done Utd.
😃.

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25 Sep 2018 22:35:49
Also, Wilson did the "5 times" gesture after scoring, in case anyone missed it.

Good lad.

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25 Sep 2018 23:05:06
What a hit, son. What a hit.

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25 Sep 2018 23:34:38
We won it 5 times. Great job putting your name in the Puskas ring tonight Harry Wilson. You'll never walk alone.

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25 Sep 2018 23:37:19
My word. I laughed off the Torres comparisons but damned good show Mr. Wilson. Amazing to think of the quality young players at Liverpool right now.

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26 Sep 2018 00:04:21
The lad is quality. Really hope he makes it with us.

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25 Sep 2018 17:00:32
Great quote from Paisley in 83 his retirement year " I've been here during the bad times too one year we came second" here's hoping those "bad times come back soon.

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25 Sep 2018 15:08:14
Good afternoon Redmen,

7 games, 7 wins. If this continues I will need to take a page out of Kolo Toure's book and start phoning people and asking what it feels like to lose!

If its 9 in 9 by the time I write the next loan report I will eat my (metaphorical) hat.

Talking of the loan report, heres how the loanees got on this weekend.

Danny Wilson made his return from injury midweek with a late Cameo against Blackburn. However his first start since injury came this weekend against Brentford.
After going one goal down Wilson drew the Rams level finishing off a counter attack the reds would be proud of.
Wilson's goal was a pivotal moment in the game as Derby went on to win the clash 3-1.

The ever present Herbie Kane registered his first assist of the season as Doncaster beat Bradford 2-1.
In the 52nd minute Kane slid a perfectly weighted through ball into the path of John Marquis who duly finished what turned out to be the match winning strike.

Building on his strong performance last weekend Karius again played a key part as Besiktas beat Sarpsborg 3-1 in their Europa League opener on Thursday night.
Last Night Besiktas faced Fenerbache and despite taking the lead they were unable to hold as they game eventually finished 1-1.

The rumours are true, Allan Rodrigues really did go on loan to Eintracht Frankfurt and now we have the proof to confirm it.
Coming off the bench in the second half Allan played for 20 minutes at Frankfurt drew 1-1 with RB Leipzig.

Marko Grujic continued his strong start to life in Germany as he made his third successive start for Hertha Berlin.
Berlin beat Borussia Monchengladbach 4-2 but the day was dampened as Grujic was forced off late with an injury.
It was later confirmed via social media that Grujic had suffered ankle ligament damage and now faces a spell on the sidelines.

Ojo made his first start for Stade de Reims but was subbed after an uneventful hour as they drew 0-0 with Dijon.

Awoniyi returned from the wilderness this weekend and was placed on the bench as Gent faced Club Brugge.
He was brought on for the final 20 minutes as Gent were already 2-0 down, his introduction however did not have the desired effect as Gent went on to lose 4-0.

Arroyo also on loan at Gent made his first start for the clubs under 21's asthey drew 2-2 with Sint-Truiden.
Arroyo played the game at left back.

Ryan Kent's growing influence at Rangers continues as he started 2 more games back to back.
Firstly in the Europa League Kent produced a solid display both offensively and defensively as the Gers got a respectable 2-2 draw away to Villarreal.
Then domestically at the weekend Kent was a key figure as the Gers dismantled St Johnstone 5-1.

Ejaria made his return from injury this weekend playing the last half hour of Rangers victory over St Johnstone.

Adam Bogdan kept a clean sheet for only the second time this season as Hibs beat Dundee 3-0.

Corey Whelan made his second successive start as Crewe lost 1-0 to Port Vale. He was booked for his troubles.

Danny Ings was ineligible to play against Liverpool this weekend as the Champions elect beat saints 3-0.

Ben Woodburn and Shamal George were unused subs for their respective clubs.

And that's your lot.

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25 Sep 2018 15:33:04
Cheers Carra. Just want to add that (correct me if I'm wrong) Karius got MOTM against Fener, and I think I speak for most Reds that I'm glad he's bouncing back really strong.

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25 Sep 2018 15:43:06
Thanks for that carra. Wilson is going to be a star. Ryan Kent is a decent little player too, glad it's clicking for him up north and I'm glad he's playing in Europe. I seem to remember him tearing bayern back 4 apart a couple of years ago.

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25 Sep 2018 15:44:39
Hi zpecialone,

That's great if he did :) I wasn't aware of that in the report I read.

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25 Sep 2018 17:19:38
Good read that carra. Just as good as one of your crunching tackles back in the day.

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25 Sep 2018 18:06:44
Thanks Carra.

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25 Sep 2018 19:42:48
Glad that Marius seems to be doing well! Don't see a way back at LFC for him now though - does that loan deal have a purchase clause at the end of it?

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25 Sep 2018 21:22:17
And Wilson has just scored against our most bitter of rivals the mancs, go on my son.

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