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29 Mar 2017 07:45:42

Morning Eds

Do you know if Coutinho and Firmino came through there international game unscathed this morning?

{Ed001's Note - not heard anything either way yet sorry.}

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28 Mar 2017 21:44:50
Lallana gone this international football needs to be scrapped NOW. It's disgusting that Liverpool lose a player for a tournament England have no chance off winning the same goes for Everton and Seamus Coleman.

{Ed002's Note - It is just stuff, not discusting.}

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28 Mar 2017 20:58:26
It's long overdue - International's are abolished - forever.

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28 Mar 2017 18:43:58
Wondering if sturridge or Hendo will be back for the Derby or any others that have been injured?

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28 Mar 2017 19:49:43
Hendo yes, Sturridge no.

28 Mar 2017 21:11:05
Have my doubts about Hendo.

29 Mar 2017 03:58:51
will we ever see sturridge in a Liverpool shirt again or has he changed his name to sturridge injured?

28 Mar 2017 18:22:11
Everyone's favourite Cruyff-turn extraordinaire is out due to an injury while on international duty.

Seems to me that a far greater number of players get injured, across the board, during these two weeks than should be usual.

Is it a difference in training or a general heavy-handedness in international football or pure happenstance?

I remember a story about Hodgson wanting to 'test' Sturridge and avoided his specific Liverpool-approved regime, causing injury.

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28 Mar 2017 14:20:57

What has been the deal with Joe Gomez, there was talk of bleeding him in and giving him game time, but seems Klopp has been looking to choose anyone but him. Has Klopp stopped to fancy him? Should he look for a loan move? Klopp history at dortmund shows he prefers older, experienced CB.

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28 Mar 2017 14:57:31

He's played a few cup games but he is recovering from a terrible injury.

28 Mar 2017 17:21:25
Lallana is out, brilliant.

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28 Mar 2017 19:15:42
Countinho and Firmino are not home and hosed yet either

I hate international football.

28 Mar 2017 19:42:02
Come on lads- man up 🤠.

28 Mar 2017 17:02:41
Lallana out for 1 month with a thigh injury.


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27 Mar 2017 00:05:28

The supposed marquee signing is a left winger. does that mean The plan is to play Coutinho centrally next season, assuming he stays of course?

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27 Mar 2017 03:09:13

The move to Barcelona is too soon for him now, because Iniesta still has 2-3 years left and it would be hard for him to dethrone him. Not because of talent, but Iniesta status at Barca. If Julian Brandt is our marquee signing, which I think it will be then you have Coutinho moving back into the desired number 10 spot. Why would Coutinho risk going to Barcelona where he won't get as much playing time with the World Cup in one years time.

{Ed001's Note - not because of talent? Iniesta is the best in the world. He has been the main man at Barca because of that. His status is deserved. Iniesta is quality, Coutinho is not at his level yet.}

27 Mar 2017 06:47:40

Just because Brandt is the supposed marquee signing does not mean Coutinho moves back into midfield. If Klopp intends to use Coutinho in a midfield role, then be assured that at least two forwards (including Brandt) will arrive. Klopp's high press system plus extra European games next season means we need at least 5 senior midfielders and forwards each vying for 6 spots in the team. It breeds healthy competition and ensures quality does not drop when injuries and suspensions occur.

27 Mar 2017 07:10:03

when people say coutinho should play centrally, are they suggesting a change of formation and style? or do they mean that coutinho should play centrally in firmino's position? or that he should play centrally in the midfield - i. e., one of lallana or gini position?

27 Mar 2017 07:22:15

Brandt would not qualify as a marquee signing to me, he would be another young left winger to compete with Ojo and Wilson.

Pointless signing.

27 Mar 2017 11:36:30

So Brandt is the supposed marquee signing? Im not sure what has developed or been said since the last Sharopod but were are looking at multiple players including Dembele who would be a bigger signing than Brandt imo.

27 Mar 2017 11:44:12

I mean play in one of the Wiji/ Lallana positions. I think he'd be more effective there dictating play.

27 Mar 2017 12:22:13

Can't agree with you there Ron, Brandt is miles ahead of Ojo and Wilson in his development and will (if he signs) be competing for the LW/ F position with Coutinho (if he's still with us) or will be straight in if Coutinho leaves. Ojo and Wilson are in desperate need of a good, competitive loan where they can play week in week out in a tough League that will get them ready to challenge for the L/ RW/ F positions in the 18/ 19 season.

Personally think he would be a great signing (with or without Coutinho) .

27 Mar 2017 14:59:59

He's another Schürle, he won't settle.

27 Mar 2017 15:51:58

I am not sure that the "marquee" signing will be Brandt but I'm fairly sure that Barcelona will move for Coutinho this summer in order to insure Neymar staying with them. It's just an opinion.

28 Mar 2017 11:12:39

And you know that he won't settle how, Ron? If you can't tell the future then stop this nonsense of just projecting your opinions as fact.

Brandt is way ahead of Ojo and Wilson and that is a verifiable fact. Notice I did not say he was better BUT just further ahead in his development as he is now a German international in a country where the talent pool is relentless. I would welcome him here cos I have seen him player multiple times and he is the real deal potentially even tho he is not world class yet.

28 Mar 2017 14:18:37
The general consensus is that Liverpool is about to have a golden age of youth development, changes initiated in the Academy a decade ago are seeing a steady stream of highly talented players graduate to the senior squads and we have a manager with a reputation for bringing through and developing youth.

There is no doubt that Klopp has involved a large number of youth players in the first team but can any of them be considered squad players let alone starters? Superficially youth players have accumulated a lot of minutes in the first team but, upon reflection, this has clearly not been a case of integrating them with the first team but in resting the first team in non-priority matches. We saw this last season in the league when Klopp focussed on the Europa Cup and we’ve seen it this season in the FA and league Cups. This season, in games that have been taken seriously (i. e. premier league matches) youth players have accumulated just 180 minutes and this includes TAA playing 90 minutes against Utd, the other 90 minutes is spread across 14 individual appearances.

There are a number of explanations for this with the most positive one being that Klopp is protecting his young players. We expect too much from our youth too quickly and when teenagers do appear we tend to overreact. It's quite possible that Klopp is trying to shield these guys from this unnecessary pressure and he'll only introduce them when they're ready.

The next explanation is a practical one, Liverpool will play 47 matches this season, a 25% reduction compared to last year. This has allowed his first team squad to avoid fatigue and play pretty much every game. It’s notable how stable Klopp's team has been, just twice all season has Klopp made a change to the premier league team not enforced by injury (Can and Karius being dropped for Wiji and Migs respectively) . Given the circumstances it may have been hard for Klopp to justify playing youth over first 11 players.

But does Klopp actually rate our youth players? There have been plenty of periods of the season where first 11 players have been picked irregardless of their form. Playing a youth player at these times could have been a very positive thing, it would have encouraged them that there were opportunities whilst preventing first team players from resting on their laurels. The fact that not once has this be done could be a sign that Klopp simply doesn’t think our youth can cut it.

The last explanation is that Klopp’s reputation as a developer of youth players is unjustified. Was Klopp's team in Dortmund built by circumstance or design? Klopp keeps the benefit of the doubt for now but if Wilson, Ojo, Gomez, TAA and the rest continue to be overlooked then we may have to reassess this issue.

Whatever the reasons the situation as we approach the end of the season is that no youth player has broken into the first team or is even a regular substitute under Klopp. How our youth players react to this depends on Klopp's management skills but there's a danger that this latest generation will pass Liverpool by.

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