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25 Aug 2023 11:51:24
Do people expect Klopp to say "yes we are after a centre back"?
Come on. Puts clubs on alert, attracts interest from other clubs, clubs put prices up etc etc.
The lower key we are, the better. Stop guessing and being so nieve. Just wait.

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1.) 25 Aug 2023 12:33:52
I know we need a CB. But we also have 5 Senior first team CBs on the books. someone is missing the brief on how to build a squad lol.


2.) 25 Aug 2023 12:56:42
Do you think other clubs give a damn about what Klopp says in press conferences? What you’ve just written is akin to a school kid in detention, giving reasons as to why he hasn’t done his homework.


3.) 25 Aug 2023 14:00:50
Would it really out prices up. Surely when we approach a club about signing one of their centre backs they then know we’re after a CB. They’re not going to sell him for less because they think we don’t actually want him.


4.) 25 Aug 2023 15:40:45
When we approach a club is absolutely the correct approach. What I have said in my post is that why would you need to say if you're interested in anyone. I'd rather we went under the radar so not to invite potential interest from other clubs which does bump the price up. I can completely understand Klopp saying he is covered in defence and wouldn't be completely surprised if we then did go and sign one.


5.) 25 Aug 2023 16:18:29
Ed02 has said if a CB is to come then, one needs to go and since he said there will be no departures for now, don't expect a CB to come in even tho, I think one should. Just saying.


6.) 25 Aug 2023 16:23:49
Strange why we are deciding to wait until the very last few days of the window to reinforce defence and add another midfielder.


7.) 25 Aug 2023 16:44:15
Not strange at all. Who says and who knows we are waiting for the last few days of the window? You're guessing. I'm sure we will sign players who are the right fit and at the right price. You need to stop being so sceptical.


8.) 25 Aug 2023 16:56:24
How am I guessing. We’re literally into the last few days of the window now.

{Ed001's Note - but we didn't decide to wait, we tried to sign players earlier. What you are saying is just nonsense.}


9.) 25 Aug 2023 18:59:57
I think if klopp actually tried to buy someone the correct way ie not tap them up the 1st club contacted will then spread the message we're after a player.
Then we will be priced out of players having to make do with what we have then struggle mid table.


10.) 26 Aug 2023 00:11:06
People confuse result with intention, outcome with performance.

And I suppose fans will see a lack of signings (outcome) as a sign that we’re not making an effort. Which is obviously ridiculous.


11.) 26 Aug 2023 00:17:11
There's a lot of advice the buying and selling footballers on this forum.
It is entertaining, though ?.


 

 

11 Aug 2023 08:33:16
This also gives us the option to go back to the 433. To me Caicedo is 2 midfielders in 1 so we don't need another. Makes complete sense.
If there's enough in the pot for another centre half. Then perfect. If not I think we might see us going back to Trent at RB. In Caicedo we now have the protection to allow Trent to move down that right side more and Robbo down the left.
?Klopp sees this.

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1.) 11 Aug 2023 08:45:08
I doubt we will ever go back to 4-3-3.


2.) 11 Aug 2023 08:47:25
I do agree, I think our team is very suited to go back to the 4-3-3 now with high pressing with the energy we should now have in midfield. Or at least maybe not have Trent inverting as much.

Although who knows caicedo could be our new RB and Trent will be playing Dm!


 

 

04 Jun 2023 12:35:35
Robertsons position next year. Any thoughts?
I'm presuming Klopp will stick with the inverted which I wish he wouldn't but as we presume he will, will Robertson be the left of the 3 at the back or if we sign a left sided centre half can we find a position further forward on the left. Would it suit?

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1.) 04 Jun 2023 12:58:17
For me, Robertson is better defensively than TAA, so keep him in the back 3, if that hybrid system is maintained. VVD in the center looks fine. And bring in a new CB as a backup to both VVD and Konate, whenever needed.


2.) 04 Jun 2023 13:20:36
If we stick with the inverted system I would buy a left sided cb who can be transitioned in to the system with Robbo as a starter in that role for most of the season.


3.) 04 Jun 2023 13:21:54
Robbo has dropped off badly in the last couple of seasons. He's physically capable but the tactics have left him exposed on two fronts - when we pass around at the back, Robbo is the trigger for the opposition to press as they know he is the least comfortable with the ball at his feet out of our back 5.

Without Mane and Gini's protection, the better teams have also identified his press as one that can open up some space behind - see how Modric goaded him to press for the Real goal in the final last year. And City did the same at the Etihad this season.

Robbo inability to use his right foot at all is hampering his comfort in the tactical systems we have been employing for the last couple of years. He's also struggled with his crossing quality- though I think everyone in the team has struggled with what they are usually good at. His defending has remained solid pretty though.

To be clear, this is not all Robbo's fault. At least half of it is down to tactics. If we are to persist with this tactical approach then Robbo will need to adapt and learn a lot, very quickly or find himself replaced by a left sided defender who is more comfortable on the ball. It's a big ask of the lad.


4.) 04 Jun 2023 13:34:00
If we are after pavard for rb maybe the plan is to put trent in midfield and keep the 433.


5.) 04 Jun 2023 14:13:37
I think we’re going to be signing way more players than some fans think.
The squad looked totally shot last season.
Milner, Ox, Naby all gone, Thiago, Hendo, Fabinho looked finished to me.
The likes of Tsimikas, Kelleher, Matip all linked with moves away.
There’s no way we stop at 2 midfielders and a Center Back.


6.) 04 Jun 2023 14:44:03
How many of them players named actually warrant being replaced through actual signings though?


7.) 04 Jun 2023 17:15:40
Those available places in the squad are an incentive for the youngsters to bust a gut and impress. Anyone thinking Klopp will be launching a Christmas style shopping spree is going to be left disappointed.


8.) 04 Jun 2023 17:15:40
Those available places in the squad are an incentive for the youngsters to bust a gut and impress. Anyone thinking Klopp will be launching a Christmas style shopping spree is going to be left disappointed.


9.) 04 Jun 2023 17:56:26
Robertson has dropped off? Give your head a wobble man has played out of his skin rubs his b#%%#% off and plays non stop I’m sure a drop off is entitled!


10.) 04 Jun 2023 20:03:45
He’s needs to stop all that rubbing, he’ll go blind.

Agree with Jay on Robbo.


11.) 04 Jun 2023 20:15:29
Jay, I fully agree with you. I love Robbo to death and will go to war with him and for him all day everyday and he has dropped off this season and it is not his fault cos everybody has dropped off this season. You can blame Klopp for that for not rotating him with Tsimikas a lot more cos he seeed to be a bit leggy aat times last season hence, he made mistakes in possesion or while in good positions to score.

Klopp needs to rest him a bit more and let Tsimikas play more BUT not sure how that's going to happen iF Tsimikas goes cos it seems he could be off this summer. Just my take.


12.) 04 Jun 2023 20:28:03
Robbo is still at the top of his game for me. superb. only thing I wish for is shooting practice. always seems the ball falls to him in box.


13.) 04 Jun 2023 20:40:21
Wouldn't take any left back in the league over Robbo. LFC8 three mids one CB and replace Kelleher for me. Thiago Hendo Jones Bajetic Fab plus 3 beats what we had last season.


14.) 04 Jun 2023 20:40:46
Cancello anyone?


15.) 04 Jun 2023 21:40:08
No one. ?.


 

 

18 Apr 2023 14:21:43
A good result last night and a good 2nd half performance.
I am a little confused and concerned about the set up we played. It looked pretty at times in the middle but for me, I felt it was a little over complicated where we played too many passes and 2 players were doing the same thing which took up space. It seemed that we were just making passes for the sake of passing.
At Anfield, the extra midfielder can work but I worry we will be exploited away from home. It worked for a time last night but this is when Leeds heads were gone.
I'm interested to see how this evolves, hopefully for the good but I just have my concerns.

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1.) 18 Apr 2023 14:52:30
I think we looked more solid in defence and had enough men back when they countered. It also took Trent out of firing line being caught 1 on 1 and made to look inadequate in his defending. He also covered the right really well getting across from the centre of the pitch numerous times. I liked it a lot. This is also Klopps view in his post match interview

"In general we need to be better protected because we've conceded too many counter attacks when losing the ball in the wrong moment. Trent played a really good game and when we lost the ball the reaction was completely different even if we didn't lose too many balls as we were calm apart from the goal we conceded. The formation suits us much better. "


2.) 18 Apr 2023 17:37:09
Experiment with it now, and buy what’s needed to cement it in the summer. Better than Ljindersball.


3.) 18 Apr 2023 19:26:35
Easypeasysqueezy, I can agree with that. I don't think this is the best way to go cos it just overcomplicates things esp. as you said, this is just experimental so not sure what conclusions one can draw with such a tiny sample size of games. Let's just wait and see.


 

 

11 Apr 2023 14:42:29
Ed1, great read below.
Any thoughts on Salah playing in the Firmino role if we continue to play this way. His strength to hold up the ball and his movement could be a great asset in that role in my opinion.
Selling Jota to bring another inverted right sided player maybe. Bring abit more balance to our options.
Cheers Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - he is not good in the centre though and he certainly is not a Firmino-type of player. Why would we even consider that when we have the likes of Gakpo and Nunez to play through the centre? And Elliott and Carvalho look a lot more suited to the Bobby-role than Salah is too.}


1.) 11 Apr 2023 15:20:04
Totally agree with 001 here. Salah has played through the middle for us a load and is always totally ineffective, his ability to run in behind from wide right and get in really good positions is probably his biggest strength - it’s totally wasted when he goes centrally.


2.) 11 Apr 2023 15:43:44
Does anyone know the last time Nunez actually played through the centre? . I can’t remember him staring there since the signing of Gakpo.

If Nunez was alternating quite a bit then it would be more understandable but it’s almost like Klopp sees him as the left forward. Especially as Gakpo is used to being played on the left but is preferred through the centre over him.


3.) 11 Apr 2023 15:57:17
Yeah i agree he's not a Firmino type player but I think it'll be hard to find someone as good as Firmino in his prime.
I just think if we are to keep Salah, his game will need to evolve and he has tremendous strength and is great at holding up the ball.
When he played centrally before, he played there purely for balls in behind which did not work.
Its an observation I've thought could be an option.
Gakpo has played very well the there so is also a great option.
You mention Nunez but do you think he is capable of playing a Firmino role? . Not for me.

{Ed001's Note - nor is Salah but you wanted to try him there.}


4.) 11 Apr 2023 16:17:21
Salah has NEVR been good thru the middle let alone play the Firmino role cos he is simply not technically good enuff to play on the half turn and knit things together the way Bobbie can.

Even tho Gakpo is not as gifted technically as Bobbie is, he still plays the false 9 better than Salah esp. at this stage and clearly that is where h is earmarked to play. Why we would take him out of a position he has flourished in for 6 years to go play a role he knows nothing about nor has the ability to, is beyond my comprehension BUT that's just me.

As for Darwin, we will see if he will continue to play out wide left when Diaz returns fully. I would be shocked if Klopp signed Darwin with all that dough ONLY to then, play him out wide in a position we already have a specialist playing in. However, I have been surprised before by Klopp.


5.) 11 Apr 2023 16:34:35
Nunez is a sub. We’ve recently played the best 2 teams in the country, and Darwin has started on the bench for both.
When we have forwards available, he’s an £80m sub.

And it’s shocking tbh because him Ali and Bajcetic have been the only shining lights on an abysmal season.


6.) 11 Apr 2023 16:41:38
We've tried Salah in the center and it didn't work. Several times. Even Mane was better in the center than Salah ever was. We'll just have to hope that Gakpo learns to do what Firmino used to do (since our wingers both cut inside from the sides) . And we use Nunez in the center when more of a "punch" up the middle is required.


7.) 11 Apr 2023 17:09:34
Well we all see different things. I believe Salah has the attributes to play the role.
You all refer to Salah playing centrally and not working. Those games were trying to utilise him over the top.
Salah will need to evolve his game as his pace will decline if it hasn't a little already.
I like Gakpo, I've said that and he looks to have a lot of potential for the role.
My point was if we continued playing this way. It doesn't get the best out of Salah with Trent playing inside. Salah has flourished for many years but it won't continue playing this way.

{Ed001's Note - you see something no one else has ever seen in Salah.}


8.) 11 Apr 2023 18:15:19
Salah might have been his first love mate?.


9.) 11 Apr 2023 18:35:13
Some of us are unlucky in love. What can I say. ?‍♂️.


10.) 11 Apr 2023 18:38:58
At 31, Salah isn’t the future of anything. Plus rather than mould a ‘new Bobby’ we should just concentrate on evolving, not recreating the past.


11.) 11 Apr 2023 18:07:16
Could well be Ed, could well be.


12.) 11 Apr 2023 19:14:58
Salah is as fit as they come he doesn’t need to play in the middle yet but i think once he slows down a bit he could definitely play as a striker when he’s 36/ 37 and still score 20 goals.


13.) 11 Apr 2023 19:25:36
Absolutely easypeasy. Was just an observation of his attributes possibly being suited if he were to stay on. Personally I'd move him on.


 

 

 

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25 Apr 2024 16:16:56
Endo is not the answer if we want to push for a league title.
He's good at what he does, break the game up and play a pass. Very safe. He reminds me of Lucus Leiva. Lovely lad, good player but not to the level to compete for the title.
We may have it at the club already with Bajectic or Trent but if not, we need someone at the level Fabinho was at in his peak.

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07 Jun 2023 15:46:27
I like Quansah from what I've seen.

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16 Apr 2024 13:30:00
Yeah, perhaps. Defensively enough minded, I'm not sure but definitely has the ability when fizzing balls through the lines.
Time will tell. Cheers Ed.

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16 Apr 2024 12:44:15
I wouldn't have a clue Ed. Is there anyone you can think of?
I mean Fabinho was brilliant here.
I notice we are trying to play the ball around teams for an example, like a stretchy elastic band. This is fine but then we need someone to pass and break the lines, someone on the half term who can receive in tight spaces. Players are also far too static in my opinion. I like to see players play a pass and follow it, set and go again. This has happened less and less in recent games.
Its a tough watch at the minute.

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16 Apr 2024 11:40:43
I love Endo for what he brings in certain games Ed so would it not be wise to find someone that can bring all the elements to the holding midfield role.
I mean someone with more technical ability so they can receive the ball in tight spaces.
Endo does the simple things well but when under pressure, lacks the technical ability and awareness to deal with this.

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25 Aug 2023 16:44:15
Not strange at all. Who says and who knows we are waiting for the last few days of the window? You're guessing. I'm sure we will sign players who are the right fit and at the right price. You need to stop being so sceptical.

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25 Aug 2023 15:40:45
When we approach a club is absolutely the correct approach. What I have said in my post is that why would you need to say if you're interested in anyone. I'd rather we went under the radar so not to invite potential interest from other clubs which does bump the price up. I can completely understand Klopp saying he is covered in defence and wouldn't be completely surprised if we then did go and sign one.

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