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16 Dec 2023 21:25:36
Thoughts and prayers with Luton's captain tonight.
May you come back stronger Lockyer.
YNWA.
16 Dec 2023 21:23:45
Quick conspiracy theory question.
Newcastle injury problems have been well documented lately. and given that they have played so many games over a short period of time, is anyone really surprised that Fulham had a player sent off so early in their game today?
This is a Fulham side that is scoring for fun in their last 2 games.
I hate that these conspiracy theories are even being mentioned, but where there's smoke there is fire.
1.) 16 Dec 2023 23:11:10
Probably got sent off for nearly taking the Newcastle players head off to be fair!
2.) 17 Dec 2023 01:03:13
There is no conspiracy theory unless of course someone has paid Jimenez to jump head height and smash into the oppo player with his hip.
3.) 17 Dec 2023 09:05:37
If you hate that conspiracy theories are being mentioned why bring up one of the least likely and most ludicrous of all?
4.) 17 Dec 2023 13:14:02
Yeah, it’s something you apparently believe but just want to add a layer of protection by claiming it’s a CT. If it is back it with all your will and hecklers be dammed! Ask ed 33
(15 year-or-so daily user of this and talk sense forgot my dammed log in info)
5.) 17 Dec 2023 19:07:22
Yeah hip bone on skull bone could be nasty and Jimenez should know better than anyone. If someone did that to you in the street I'm pretty sure it would be considered an assault.
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25 Apr 2024 07:07:39
I just wanted to congratulate Ed25 on his victory last night.
It's a pleasure to have helped you lot stay in PL. I admit it wouldn't be the same without you
As for us. I'm starting to worry that we might even lose out on top 4 right now.
Klopp looks lost and the players seem to have downed tools. Recipe for disaster
It's going to be a tough and nervy end of the season for us.
{Ed025's Note - you just never turned up JLC, you did have some good chances mind but your confidence looks shot, Liverpool will finish top 3 im sure of that mate but we all know it could and should have been so much better..
1.) 25 Apr 2024 07:27:13
To miss out on top four spurs realistically have to win all their games, they may beat us but they won’t beat both city and Arsenal.
If you look at the season purely as a result, top four and a trophy we’d have bitten your hand off in August. However we had hope of winning the lot and now it’s going to end on a flat note.
Really starting to question if there are any leaders in that dressing room as they should of spurred the team on after losing in the fa cup. Instead we have wilted, it’s like the mentality was 4 or nothing. A real shame to see klopps final season end like this but it’s been one hell of a ride.
And ed025 your boys simply wanted it more last night, you must be on cloud 9 this morning. Now excuse me, I’m off to live under a rock until next season starts.
{Ed025's Note - i was dreading it WYred but we bullied you mate and you ran out of ideas in the end mate, still a good season for the reds i feel ...but it could have been so much more..
2.) 25 Apr 2024 07:29:42
JLC I’ll be honest mate making such a suggestion that LFC players have downed tools for Klopp would usually be blasphemy.
But the truth is if we took off our red tinted glasses and watched last night and last few weeks as a neutral and it was another club with another manager I know my conclusion Would be it looks like they’ve downed tools (lost the dressing room etc) .
Klopp should be going out on his shield but currently he’s going out with a whimper.
Finishing above Spurs and Villa isn’t quite as nailed on as we imagined. Especially as we have both still to play.
{Ed025's Note - the fall out from last night may just be the kick up the arse you needed JK, you will easily make top 4 mate..
3.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:00
I don't think the players have downed tools. Like Ed said, they are just lacking belief and confidence. I do agree that Klopp and his coaching team looks lost and can't seem to turn this around.
Personally, I feel that we are already out of the title race after last night's results. A bit of a downer after what was expected to be Klopp's farewell. Nonetheless, I would still wish for us to go all out for the last four games and get the maximum number of points still available.
4.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:41
I cannot see us beting west ham, villa and Spurs. how are you so confident we will get a top 4 place ED025? Villa themselves are aiming for a CL spot and as is Spurs.
{Ed025's Note - because you are a better side mate, they will be more scared of you than you are of them, of course you will have to buck your ideas up but they are too far behind to be a real threat..
5.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:45
We won't lose top four but I'm struggling to see the leaders in our side, at the minute. VVD and Mac, maybe but after that?
I never thought I'd be saying this but Gomez has to come in at right back against West Ham; at least until Bradley is back.
TAA is good enough to build a team around but not in the system or with the players we have.
I'd also consider playing Salah through the middle but only because of a lack of options and to get him closer to the goal.
{Ed025's Note - i would leave Salah out altogether Rigsby, he looks shot mate and has not been the same since the AFCON, great player of course but contributing very little at the moment im afraid..
6.) 25 Apr 2024 08:08:10
I forgot spurs had City and Arsenal to play to be honest.
Bit that tells a story that we are confident of getting top 4 because Spurs won’t over our capabilities.
Even dropping below Villa now will be seen as failure in my eyes.
And anyone who argues that it’s not I’ll just counter argue that a week ago we were going for the title in a 3 horse race so to then finish 4th can’t be seen as anything else.
7.) 25 Apr 2024 08:08:19
I'd leave him out, too, Ed025 but with Jota injured that only leaves Nunez whose confidence also looks shot. I can't have Gakpo there and I don't know whether Danns is ready to start on the run we are having.
It may be wishful thinking but get Salah through the middle, hope he takes a chance and finds some form.
{Ed025's Note - i would actually play Danns there Rigsby, yes hes still a bit raw but the guy has talent mate, lets be honest he cant do any worse than mo at the moment..
8.) 25 Apr 2024 08:39:25
Congrats Ed 25, reckon you guys will be safe now. Regarding this been the kick up the arse we needed, I was hoping Atalanta and Palace would have been enough of a wake up call. Hope we can put in some good performances before the season is out, at least finish playing some exciting football.
{Ed025's Note - with the announcement of the new manager it will give the team a bit of a boost i think Mic, mind you i thought with Klopp leaving it would have had a similar effect mate..
9.) 25 Apr 2024 08:41:28
@Jk
Then they will argue "if you told me at the start of the season" lol.
10.) 25 Apr 2024 09:04:11
The way we’re playing we could easily end the season and not win another game and finish behind both Spurs and Villa. Fulham were on the beach already, and we looked like that against Everton last night. Poor performance, no fight, too many mistakes.
11.) 25 Apr 2024 09:44:28
Players very rarely ‘down tools’. Not often do footballers consciously decide they can’t be bothered. Don’t like that phrase being used so liberally.
No, what this looks like is a group of players who have lost all confidence in what the manager is telling them to do. We have powered through this season on enthusiasm and vibes but when that runs out you need a solid way of playing that you can fall back on.
You can’t go back to basics if you don’t know what the basics are. We have routinely conceded first all season long. It is unforgiveable and we have got away with it for ages. When you have a knock in confidence like in the United cup game, you need to have some solidity to depend upon, a base to work from.
We don’t have that. The system is stupid and leaves us vulnerable. We never feel in control. That puts pressure on our forwards who, as we can see, are not good enough to deal with that pressure. So begins the vicious cycle; concede baffling goals at one end, balloon chance after chance at the other, heads drop, we lose/ draw, rinse and repeat. This is a psychologically draining way to approach football matches week after week.
The players are a reflection of the manager and his coaches. Fed up, checked out, mentally exhausted, but most of all lacking faith in what they are doing. The management don’t have any answers or impetus to provide those answers, and the players can feel it.
If people want to refer to it as ‘something behind the scenes’, whatever that means, i think that’s all it is. Nothing sinister, just a manager and coaches who have run their course and can’t take this group any further.
12.) 25 Apr 2024 10:00:53
Didn't Spurs recently get beat 4 nil at Newcastle?
JK, my counter argument to yours is that if top four was the target at the beginning of the season, isn't fourth- or even third- a success?
My argument is based on me never thinking we'd win the League anyway.
City and Arsenal had better squads than we did last season and they added to them whereas we had to rebuild the midfield and brought in Endo, Szob and Grav. None of which would regularly play for either of them.
13.) 25 Apr 2024 10:37:35
Doesn’t every team down tools against City though?
Or is the accusation they roll over for them not as condemning as downing tools.
Either way it’s the same outcome.
14.) 25 Apr 2024 11:06:15
Rigsby absolutely mate the target at the start of the season was finishing top 4.
But targets move and evolve as the season goes on.
A month ago we were in a 3 horse race so to finish 4th would surely be deemed as a failure.
If we finish 3rd then not so much.
If we win our next game and results go our way I doubt you would ne happy if we forfeited the last 3 games as our target that we set 9 months ago had been met.
20 Apr 2024 18:39:53
Away from our current issues. but how has it become so obvious that City are so favored by the officials?
Please can someone explain how Grealish gets away with the handball call in the fa cup semi final?
That's a penalty all day, every day, at every level, men or women, kids or adults.
There is absolutely no way that City getbthese favorable calls.
1.) 20 Apr 2024 20:56:04
It's the same ref helping them. That tells you all you need to know.
2.) 20 Apr 2024 21:38:10
It’s corruption by the league and fa, causing big story’s…. Same reason they penalise Everton and forest but leaving city well alone with their 115 so called charges, becoming a farce.
3.) 20 Apr 2024 21:48:27
You get what you pay for Leelad, and the City owners paid Michael Oliver a lot of money for that “refereeing job” in the UAE.
4.) 21 Apr 2024 14:41:31
Is it because they have no fans so they are easier to handle during semi-finals and finals for the police? Probably saves money on crowd control too. Chelsea where the better side on the day unfortunately, I spoke it out loud when City got the winner that evil somehow always seems to come out on top in most cases. Especially in the modern world I doubt we would win a world war in this day and age as the enemy would just pay our leaders to throw in the towel. Money talks and is the root of all evil.
14 Mar 2024 05:47:33
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned on here so I'll ask the question.
What the (. ) is up with Kyle Walker and Sky airing that interview where Walker praises the ref Oliver in how he handled the LVC vs City match.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
How is this type of thing even allowed. it just smacks of pure bias and entitlement.
1.) 14 Mar 2024 07:44:31
I dunno but I thought his “great” defending got exposed for what it really is - great recovery pace. The actual defending bit got found out multiple times.
{Ed001's Note - I never knew anyone considered him a great defender. I have always read comments about how he is crap just incredibly quick. Even back when he was at Spurs. I can't believe anyone considers him to be a top class defender.}
2.) 14 Mar 2024 08:52:57
Apart from Gareth. He seems to rate him.
3.) 14 Mar 2024 09:22:54
Ed1, Rio Ferdinand called him the best RB in PL history in his own podcast or whatever online show he did few days ago. Talk about delusional.
{Ed001's Note - Rio is a moron. Great defender in his day, but he is clueless. Walker isn't even the best right-back in Spurs' or City's PL history ffs.}
4.) 14 Mar 2024 09:29:55
And Paul Merson, who thinks England are odds-on favourites to win the Euros.
To be fair Merson probably stumbled across a lost cache of personality powder. Southgate doesn’t have that excuse in his locker.
5.) 14 Mar 2024 10:10:17
JLC, I think they did the interview to get clicks and reactions from the fans and online likes. And even in the interview, Walker in his body language awhen he was asked about the pen incident, looked so uneasy and tentative and then, the nonsensical praise comes out his mouth. You could tell he himself didn't believe the dust he was spouting.
The fact that anyone ever thought that Walker is a good defender is a problem in it of itself cos that guy is absolutely crap. ot his (and has been getting) his arse handed to him by Diaz and frankly, by any other wide man with the guts to go at him all season and not surprised at all. Take his pace away and trust me, not sure he would even have a career, IMO.
6.) 14 Mar 2024 12:07:17
He wasn’t the best right back on Sunday.
7.) 14 Mar 2024 12:12:12
I give up with listening to what anyone has to say or at least taking any notice of them. Not one of these pundits is impartial and Sky Sports is owned by Manchester Utd. Yesterday Sky Sports spent all day banging on about Mainoo hopefully being able to play for England. He is nowhere near good enough for that yet and would be back of a long Queue of players. If only there was a channel you could just watch the match and cut out all the pathetic waffle. So Sky own Man Utd and Man City use oil bribes to stay relevant.
As a Liverpool you should really have learnt by now that no one wants us to succeed and any success will be swept under the carpet ASAP so outlets can focus on Man Utd. We as a club are a true case of us against the world something Klopp has had to learn the hard way in many cases but ultimately embrace the hate and turn it back on the haters ten fold.
My advice would be to not take any notice of these agenda driven media outlets as they will try to turn fact into fiction for the purpose of entertainment and viewing figures. Journalism is a dead format in any form in the modern world as it will always be twisted to suit the narrative preferred by the sponsored media agency. Know what you see and believe and ignore all other noise as just that noise. On a side note that Shay Given is a tool isn’t he how does he get on TV anyway he was a tragic player and is an even more tragic human being.
8.) 15 Mar 2024 02:54:37
Point taken regarding Walker but Rashford literally just gave up against him so he can't be that bad.
11 Mar 2024 07:12:54
So here's my question regarding Doku's karate chop.
Looking at the replay, the ref was standing behind Doku, so he didn't see the karate kid style attempt to kick Macca's head off ( yes a bit dramatic but you get my point)
So my question is why didn't VAR send the ref to the monitor to review it from a different angle? Or is that not part of VARs allowable calls?
{Ed001's Note - it is a potential penalty so within VAR's remit. Outside the box it would have to be adjudged to be possibly a red card before they can interfere, but inside the box a penalty is requirement. So they couldn't interfere with an offence which would give an indirect free kick inside the box.}
1.) 11 Mar 2024 08:58:09
For me the main issue with officials is there's far too many of them which makes consistency a nightmare throughout the league for all matches not just ours.
There's 20 premier league referees currently and i see reports that they are over worked and tired which i thought was an April Fools headline.
I don't see why teams of officials can't be assigned to a couple of games over the weekend. If a Referee, linesman or VAR official are not fit or robust enough for example to do Utd v Everton on a sat midday kick off and then Liverpool v City on a Sunday at 1545 then surely that shows they aren't the right personnel for the job in the first place.
And don't get me started on the 4th official the PL could pay a Weatherspoon's bouncer £10 an hour to do that job, what a waste of time.
I appreciate the argument will be fitness but officials are technically professional athletes so if they aren't fit enough to run a game or line for 2 x 90 mins over the weekend then they aren't fit enough end of.
Yes they do run about but have you ever looked at an official and thought they look like they are the poster for prime fitness, Christ you probably see fitter looking people at park runs on a Saturday.
Referees can reportedly earn £1.5k a match and up to £200k a year so for me they should be the best of the best.
Having a smaller pool of officials for me would give far more consistency because sometimes it looks like a load of them are singing off a different hymn sheet.
2.) 11 Mar 2024 08:59:29
So they COULD'NT send him to the monitor Ed? surely that's crazy.
3.) 11 Mar 2024 09:07:31
for me this is one of those "could have gone either way" calls. It is reckless and I definitely think it's an easy foul call outside the box. Inside the box they're looking for contact to the ball first, which tbh, I'm ok with as a means to determine if the defender won the ball or not.
But, where it gets grey is that it is reckless and a high boot. So what is it? maybe a blue card!? lol.
4.) 11 Mar 2024 09:12:17
As it was close to the match ending, possibly the VAR system had already been closed and they were ready to go home. Chilling out, hence would have taken long to boot up the computer and check.
Hence, no slow motion, ref to monitor, ets, all these dramas as it was against Liverpool.
Watch out the last 10 games before end of season, lots of Kungfu Panda will happen.
Thanks.
5.) 11 Mar 2024 10:08:29
Imagine if we didn't have VAR? the table would look different right now, not just for us but for many teams. They're absolutely useless. I can't and won't stop watching the games but VAR has took a lot of fun away for us fans. It's the fear of the unknown, you never know what's going to happen before a game. It's got to a point where before a game I'm thinking 'I hope to christ VAR doesn't fk us over today'. It's an absolute pi$$ take.
6.) 11 Mar 2024 09:26:11
Thanks Ed001
Appreciate the feedback.
{Ed001's Note - it is a ridiculous situation. That is a penalty. It has to be.}
7.) 11 Mar 2024 10:23:16
JLC, I addressed this in another thread. M. Oliver say No as soon as the incident happened despite him not being in a position to fully see the play. So what does that ell you? It tells me that he was NOT going to give a pen in real time except it was blatantly obvious like the Ederson one. So since he did not see it clearly, the VAR essentially backed him up DESPITE clear video replay shows that had Oliver went to the monitor and saw all the angles (which he did not see in real time) he clearly awards it.
So why did he not go to the monitor, you ask? Well, Webbo told us why in his last apology tour. Webbo said essentially that, "the VAR worked with the on pitch ref to corroborate his decision on the pitch". SO if this is true then, the VAR essentially "coroborated" Oliver's decision on the pitch despite the images showing he was 100% wrong and it is at Oliver's discretion to ask for a review. Oliver did not and to me, that is by design as per Webbo's comments. And who loses here? Yep, LFC. By design? Not sure cos Arsenal suffered the same thing vs who? You guessed it. City. By design? Again, can't say what you can't prove.
8.) 11 Mar 2024 10:49:05
Salah without VAR mate the pen would still not have been given yesterday as the ref would have still made the same call.
That's not me defending VAR because its ruining the game for me just as much as the inconsistent decisions different officials make.
I don't care if the ref didn't give that pen yesterday or disallowed the VVD goal in the cup final. What i want though is that to be the bench mark and criteria for every other match being played not seeing goals and pens being given days later for the same incidents.
9.) 11 Mar 2024 11:53:34
Yeah if there was no VAR then we’re still not getting the Roku foul in our favour.
Oli - I get where you’re going with the “VAR corroborates” the ref line but think your assertion that it’s some kind of conspiracy is a fine line towards tinhat conspiracy.
This is their system so that the VAR isn’t re-reffing the game, even tho it happens at other times. I think they need to review VAR and incorporate more from other sports and how they use video tech to inform decisions.
10.) 11 Mar 2024 12:51:28
Come to think of it. this is actually a perfect example of the Clear and Obvious Error rule.
The ref was not in the right position and missed the high foot, so VAR should intervene and say, "look, you missed the high foot, it's a clear and obvious mistake, go relook the karate chop on the monitor"
It's actually quite simple, really.
11.) 11 Mar 2024 14:14:49
Faithinworks, I never said it was a conspiracy neither did I assert anything apart from Webbo's words themselves. My main point is that VAR is implemented shockingly in a way for all the refs to be protected as well as their lack of integrity preserved and we can all agree on that. IMO, This is why Oliver never went to the screen nor did the VAR intervene and the whole "Doku touched the ball first" is pure unadulterated dust cos the PL rule does NOT take that into account. So again, they (ref and VAR) didn't react cos they could and they know they will get protected.
Now, I forgot to mention in fairness that Arsenal suffered the exact same thing vs City where Kovacic did not see red and Webbo apologised for that as well (as an example cos Oliver was involved) cos many have said that it seems refs in big games are trying to keep 11 players on the pitch as much as possible so as "not to ruin the game". Why is that a thibng?
So essentially if this is true, they are deliberately ignoring credible ref decisions either team deserves on the merits just to ensure entertainment and drum up drama and controversy? You can call it "tinhat" whatever you like BUT I only say what Im seeing based on actual behaviour.
12.) 11 Mar 2024 14:16:09
Spot on, JLC. To me, they made a deliberate effort not to do that whereas if that happened anywhere else on the pitch at the end of the game, a foul is given. That much we all know.
13.) 11 Mar 2024 19:37:13
Yes, they could send oliver to screen because it was wrong decision and that is exactly what var is for. As for doku his boot was neck high free kick any where in the world but then hitting a player with his studs in his chest was dangerous play red card and we get a big fat nothing.
14.) 13 Mar 2024 00:21:23
If you set up AI to learn how to ref a football match from learning how stockley park does it we'll be hiding from terminators before it figures it out.
As a idea it's great, in practice it is a shambles, and ruining the spectacle, which is the product that lays the golden egg.
10 Mar 2024 07:13:43
I wish we could get 2 penalties in the same half today.
1.) 10 Mar 2024 08:15:50
JLC - if any of the City defenders are naive enough to give penalties away like the Everton players did, we might do, because they were both stonewallers.
They won't be though.
2.) 10 Mar 2024 08:51:08
Any penalty awarded to Utd is a stonewall penalty, I get that and yes Everton wee silly. but I wasn't insinuating anything. I just want 2 penalties in the same half. I'm greedy like that!
3.) 10 Mar 2024 10:13:20
I see what you did there, JLC. You sly dog, lol.
4.) 10 Mar 2024 12:09:53
I only watched a 4min highlights package and was enough to remind me how crap Everton are.
Nah kidding but to be fair those two tackles for pens were terrible.
5.) 10 Mar 2024 18:08:37
That was so close. if it wasn't for the corrupt officials and them making up the rules as they go. we would've been given that 2nd pen.
26 Apr 2024 22:18:26
Damnded if you do and damnded if you don't.
24 Apr 2024 16:04:36
Ed002 tapped up Slot
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24 Apr 2024 12:38:17
At JoeyTheRed. does that mean Feyenoord tapped him up
And here I thought Liverpool are the only culprits of tapping up ?.
23 Apr 2024 08:37:33
Ed25.I see you haven't lost your sense of humor.
Maybe it's because Everton are basically safe now. unless the FA decide to deduct more points.
Since you're throwing Lamps name around. why not just add Allardyce to that list? Or even Moyes since Amorim is replacing Moyes.
I reckon we are all going to be shocked by the next appointment. can't wait!
{Ed025's Note - all good candidates i would say JLC, we are talking top notch candidates here mate.. :)
20 Apr 2024 11:43:23
Nunez will reach his peak at 27, and if we keep him, we'll reep the benefits.
There's a player in there, and we just need to nurture him.
16 Apr 2024 06:42:19
I hope you give all your energy to your employer and no energy to your personal life just as you expect Klopp and the Players to give all their energy to LFC.
It's about balance . WDW hits the nail on the head.
31 Mar 2024 21:41:24
For me, this was typical Pep over analyzing and trying to "surprise" his opponent.
City had no width until Jack and Doku came on.
City tried everything down the middle in the 1st half, with Silva as a winger. such ignorant tactics from Pep.
Arteta used the dark arts to his advantage. its like he somehow knew Taylor wasn't going to book anyone. FOR ANYTHING.
Jesus, Gabriel, Odegaard, Rice could have each seen multiple yellow cards and Taylor decided to let things go. It's not like he didn't blow for the fouls, he just didn't want to brandish any cards.
This was the most boring game in the past decade, and if that's what 2 of the top 3 teams in England have to show, then from an entertainment perspective, I'd rather watch paint dry
Finally, as for Haaland. What a lump of lard that guy is.
He was bullied, at home, by the snake known as Gabriel.
In a game where the ref was literally giving the players Carte Blanche, he rolled over and had his belly tickled by that slithering piece of sh1t. Oh how happy I am that we have Nunez.
31 Mar 2024 17:21:49
100% LFC8.
This is the most boring game in the last decade
No manager has sent their team out to play football.
20 Mar 2024 06:45:01
Finally some sense being spoken.
Thank you Bill.
16 Mar 2024 05:00:03
Us fans make up for the perceived lack of complaining from the players!
Let them to the talking on the field and we'll do the talking off the field
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