21 Feb 2023 10:39:56
I wanted to share my thoughts on the recent news that FSG has confirmed they are not going to sell Liverpool FC. While some fans may view this as bad news, I believe it's actually good news for the club and its supporters.

Firstly, having stability at the top is crucial for any football club. FSG has a proven track record of bringing success to Liverpool, as evidenced by the club's recent Premier League and Champions League titles. By staying put, they can continue to build upon that success and ensure that Liverpool remains a top club for years to come.

Moreover, Liverpool has always been a club rooted in the working class and the fighting spirit that comes with it. The club's history is about rising up against the odds and achieving success through sheer determination and hard work. That's what the spirit of Shankly is all about, and it's a legacy that we should be proud to uphold.

While it may be tempting to want a wealthy owner or sovereign wealth fund to back the club, I believe that would go against everything that Liverpool stands for. We're not a club that's built on money or entitlement, but rather on a never-say-die attitude and a refusal to give up in the face of adversity.

In conclusion, I'm thrilled that FSG has decided to stay and continue building upon the success they've brought to Liverpool. I believe this is the best outcome for the club and its supporters, and I hope that we can all come together to continue supporting this great club for years to come.

Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts, and I welcome any responses or feedback from fellow users.

YNWA!

1.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 12:38:58
OP, that was a good post and I fully agree with you on many point there. For me if FSG sold then, fine. Not bothered. However for me, I did NOT want us to be owned by a Nation state, end of discussion. Why? Cos Nation states should NEVER be allowed to own a football club regardless of it's size.

One cannot say or complain that football is and should be for the masses and accessible to everyone in society regardless of class or background while on the other hand, say that a Nation state should own their club. That is as asinine a logic as it gets, IMO. Liverpool is a global football institution and NOT some play thing some regime or country needs to use to launder it's own image (good or bad) on the back of the MASSIVE clout this club has gained through out it's 130 year history. That's not on, for real.

As for FSG staying, it is what it is. We have been successful under them esp. based on where we were when they took over and where we are now after they hired Klopp (with a sceltical John W Henry's eventual blessing) and all the stuff we've won despite being the underdog for the most part. Will they invest substantially as required? They'd better IF they want their asset to keep growing and they have when required. Let's see what happens. Peace and Love.

2.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 12:46:16
You build on success while at the top, we should of been doing that when we won the League, this will be the biggest summer of their reign, if they get it wrong it will be their last, it's a fair comment what the club is about but having Morales will leave us trailing behind, as sad as that is, this is the football, it's money driven, we need constant backing every window, it's a big ask for FSG.

3.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 13:17:44
I’m interested to know, what will people do if FSG still own Liverpool and end up being in position where they can’t compete at all with City, Newcastle, Man Utd, and Chelsea in the transfer market?

FSG have spent more than they receive in transfers by quite a way but no where near to the levels that the above clubs have/ will. £150M for a transfer may soon be the equivalent of £50M now due competition between the mega rich. This would not allow most clubs to compete for the very top players, creating large gaps in quality within the Premier League.

If this does happen and we end up competing with Arsenal and Spurs for 5th, 6th, and 7th what would you do?

4.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 13:22:34
Lancaster Red, it won't be FSG who get it wrong in the summer, it will be Klopp and the transfer committee. And didn't we sell Morales years ago?!

5.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 13:23:55
Lancaster, football lost its morals when it sold its soul to the Premier League and Murdoch got his greedy hands on the game.

6.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 13:40:31
FSG have been here for 13 yrs. I don't see anything changing if they don't sell us then it's over for Klopp I can't see him surviving much especially when thing's have completely fallen and the core is reaching their average career expectancy.

7.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 14:49:19
Spot on, Rome__1977. FSG don't buy players and if they gave Klopp money to spend and he sat on the money for reasons x or why (something we KNOW he does) then how is that FSG's f.

8.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 14:53:40
Sent too soon. How is Klopp's refusal to spend what he has been given their fault? The FSG outers seem unable to answer that each time they are asked which tells me that they cannot and will not answer said questions that put Klopp in a bad light. Shocking, I know.

@Kopforever and if that is the case then, you should hold your hero Klopp responsible for allowing the core to grow so old due to his blind loyalty to his players and his refusal to spend money he is ACTUALLY given to strengthen, something we know he for a fact he does. Can't have the ying without the yang, bro.

9.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 15:07:03
Better the devil you know in this case. We know FSG are not loaded like some club owners in this era, but they saved the club from ceasing to exist and transformed it to a successful club again. Success is relative but the club is an elite club again compared to Roy's reign.

10.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 16:13:23
If FSG still own Liverpool nothing will change for me. I’ll still attend as many games as I can at Anfield like I have done the whole time they’ve been here and long before they bought the club.

11.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 17:00:40
We're does this bs that Klopp had lots of money available, but didn't want to buy anything comes from? If he had the funds available for some of the players he want, he would have bought. What a load of rubbish.

12.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 17:09:40
Is there any stability? I'm still struggling to understand why we have lost two sporting directors, data analysts and most of the medical team. Billy hogan also taken out of his role to focus on the sale of the club which isn't happening. Doesn't seem very stable up top to me. Would love to know the reasoning behind all of this.

13.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 17:52:01
I suspect the vast, vast majority of supporters are with you JK. I think as time went on the grumbles would get less and less and people would just get on with it and accept where we were and enjoy the game for what it it.

I wonder though, is there anyone on here who would feel so let down that they would support a different club instead?

Would anyone be brave enough to admit it anyway?

I know it’s irrelevant, just something I find interesting.

14.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 17:52:29
How has Klopp refused to spend money? Not spending money is not the same as refusing to spend money.

15.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 17:54:25
In response to Kopforever: While it's true that FSG has been in charge of Liverpool for 13 years, it's important to recognise the progress the club has made under their ownership. They have overseen a significant improvement in the team's performance on the pitch, culminating in winning the Premier League, Champions League, and Club World Cup.

Furthermore, it's important to acknowledge that Klopp has repeatedly expressed his confidence in FSG's leadership and the direction they're taking the club. He has spoken highly of the support he's received from the owners and has even signed a contract extension to stay at the club until 2024.

In terms of the "core" of the team reaching their average career expectancy, it's true that some of Liverpool's key players are getting older. However, Klopp and the club have been planning for this eventuality by bringing in younger players and investing in the academy.

Finally, it's important to remember that football is a cyclical sport and every team goes through ups and downs. While Liverpool may be experiencing a difficult period at the moment, it's not uncommon for successful teams to have a dip in form. With Klopp at the helm and FSG's support, there's every reason to be optimistic about the future of the club.

{Ed025's Note - great post jurgenator..

16.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 18:05:20
Oil red I just posted a month back Abt eds old post saying we didn't have money and Klopp had to work with What he had and you're saying Klopp was sitting on money? Seems your posts keep on changing depending where the air is flying lmfao ?.

17.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 18:47:09
You can't build on success when you're not at the top, can you? Unless you are successful but not at the top. How do you define success and being at the top? And why not build when you are the bottom or unsuccessful? Surely you need to build then.
Or is it just another cliché thrown out by fans when things are not going their way?

18.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 19:00:06
Some ed says we have no money. another ed says if klopp wanted some1 he'd get the money. I call bs myself. The only reason I see klopp not spending if we had money available is he is saving it up for Bellingham. I can see a pathetic summer transfer window.

19.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 19:01:31
"If they get it wrong it will be their last. "
So who's going to kick them out then?

20.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 19:04:31
Jurgenator no one is saying FSG are bad owners.

The reality is their policy doesn't work anymore Klopp isn't going to dish them publicly.

Today the landscape of football has completely changed. Players are getting expensive average player starting fee is 80M

You've got the owner mike Gordon himself saying publicly he's worried that we can't compete financially

Hence FSG are finding investors to take the burden of rebuilding coz they can't take the Club forward anymore especially when clubs around us are spending 5 times more then us where does that leave us when we need major rebuilding and transfer market when will compete for the same players? That will just inflate the market more and more

If FSG don't sell I don't see Klopp lasting much no chance neither our prospect of going back challenging for top honors anytime soon.

{Ed025's Note - you know when you say "no one is saying FSG are bad owners"...well there are a hell of a lot saying that actually KF..

21.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 19:22:51
I must respectfully challenge the notion put forth by Kopforever that Liverpool needs to be spending big on players in order to keep up with other teams. While it's true that some teams may be currently investing large sums in player acquisitions, it's important to understand that timing can be a critical factor when it comes to player transfers.

It is not always necessary for a team to spend big in order to obtain top talent. Teams who are currently spending large amounts on players may find themselves unable to maintain that level of investment indefinitely, due to constraints such as Financial Fair Play regulations or a shift in their own financial priorities. Furthermore, the recent inflation of player prices may not be sustainable, and could eventually result in a market correction.

The key to success in the transfer market lies not in spending large sums of money, but rather in having a clear strategy that focuses on identifying undervalued players and developing them to their full potential. Jurgen Klopp has proven to be adept at this approach, having successfully signed players like Andrew Robertson and Sadio Mane, who have proven to be invaluable assets to the Liverpool squad despite their modest transfer fees.

In summary, while it is tempting to assume that spending large sums of money on players is a necessity for competing at the highest level, the reality is much more nuanced. A strategic, patient approach to the transfer market can often yield better results in the long run, as seen with Liverpool's recent successes under Klopp's leadership. As such, I would urge fans to trust in the team's strategy and have confidence in their ability to compete without resorting to excessive spending.

{Ed025's Note - your on fire tonight jurgenator mate..

22.) 21 Feb 2023
21 Feb 2023 22:03:59
Yes ed25 mate he's on fire just like Real Madrid soon the wound is going to get bigger and bigger. ?.