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28 Nov 2019 10:44:25
Is Keita injured again or is he just not getting in the squad. If he’s not injured then is that the writing on the wall for him as Shaq and Lallana are being ed ahead of him in the squad and both them are rumoured to be on the way out


1.) 28 Nov 2019 20:43:55
He be gone in the summer.

2.) 29 Nov 2019 01:00:25
I've heard illness kept him out this week and he's previously been struggling with shaking off recent injuries, . Of course these are often excuses used to detract from other issues but let's not write him off yet as we've seen many examples of players turning things around. Fabinho, OX, matip, Origi, Henderson all spent periods where our fan base gave absolutely no support or backing of them having an LFC future.

Keita is still only in his early 20s and has proved he has great talent.

Before his injury vs Barcelona he had flourished with confidence for 5 or 6 games as a regular starter scoring 3 goals and a couple of assists. He was rushed back and clearly unfit for international duty in the summer and his return to full fitness seems very frustrating but he's still young, has huge potential, on a long contract and a manager who will be the perfect judge of his worth to this team.

Unless he's a bad egg personality wise let's not give up on him just yet.

3.) 29 Nov 2019 03:36:03
He's ill I believe.

4.) 29 Nov 2019 04:08:20
He is ill.

5.) 29 Nov 2019 15:33:14
Guess what? ill is not good enough I would rather curtis Jones was in the squad, keita is a fraud who performs when he thinks is suitable, we need warriors and he is a tranny sorry its harsh but he is not contributing nowhere near enough .

6.) 29 Nov 2019 17:48:20
Literally made a profile to just ask for what you base the above opinion on hailstones? I understand if there were some substances involved.

7.) 29 Nov 2019 21:16:44
On the evidence provided from his time at the club, also info the Ed's have shared about him, its harsh but wat has he contributed and has he showed fight an desire on the pitch no he hasn't . I want too be wrong big time as I love the player we were signing but that player has evaporated into an average joe, you only have too look at Fabihno too know wat i am on about . Was not trusted at first went away got his game together an BINGO! same with Robertson.

8.) 30 Nov 2019 09:40:39
He’s shown glimpses and due to injury and the form of others hasn’t really been given an extended run to show what he can do. What he’s shown in training and as a professional off the pitch is another question.

9.) 01 Dec 2019 10:42:23
Interested to what you mean by "Tranny" Hailstones? I can't really take any criticism of a player if you're going for a pretty transphobic insult.

In terms of what you're saying about Fabinho / Robertson, the difference for them is that they were injury free for a sustained period so they could be integrated into the team, while for whatever reason Keita was picking up niggly injuries.

Sure I get he has been disappointing, but to call him a "Tranny" is pretty childish and insulting to be honest.



05 Apr 2019 13:11:20
Is there any rumour on Keita. Is he still very much in Klopps plans for next season and is this season just being written off as a bedding in period? I’m by no means suggesting that we get rid as I really want this guy to succeed and he was probably the player I was most looking forward to seeing this season. This is simply a query as you know what the rumour mill is like suggesting Klopp might look to sell back to Germany with Bayern / Dortmund linked.


1.) 05 Apr 2019 13:29:17
Ed001 answered a similar question below.

2.) 05 Apr 2019 22:35:40
Scored tonight. classic post.

3.) 06 Apr 2019 00:34:03
There is a rumour that Keita scored against Southampton.

4.) 06 Apr 2019 03:43:16
Please post on every match talking about the rumour departure of Naby.
We need you jk23.

5.) 06 Apr 2019 07:08:17
Well Naby did score today so hopefully this is the trigger he needs to finally kickstart his LFC career. He deserves one more season before we start thinking about possible destinations for him.



15 Aug 2018 15:56:12
Mignolet’s agent in talks with Napoli apparently. If he does go then all the best to him.


{Ed002's Note - Napoli want one of David Ospina or Simon Mignolet. Besiktas want one of Loris Karius, Ospina or Mignolet. Mignolet was priced out of a move to Fenerbahce. If Liverpool were to drop their demands for a loan fee for Karius, I suspect something could be done.}

1.) 15 Aug 2018 17:17:08
Currently in talks with Arsenal fro Ospina so that option looks dead in water. I think we will be stuck with him until at least January now.

2.) 15 Aug 2018 17:17:08
Cheers Ed002. A fountain of knowledge as per usual.

3.) 15 Aug 2018 17:52:35
Spot on Ed as usual with your info. You explained both Karius and Mignolet could well leave in August. I have to say though I thought Karius would stay. Kids not ready to be back up imo.

{Ed002's Note - He should have moved at the first opportunity. Staying at the club puts him in an untenable situation but I would not put it beyond Klopp to force him to stay.}

4.) 15 Aug 2018 18:51:54
He does want to leave then Ed? Was at Anfield on sunday and he seemed happy enough in the warm up, even signed a few programmes. Shame really.

{Ed002's Note - His position is completely untenable.}

5.) 15 Aug 2018 19:37:45
Do you mean untenable within the club? Certainly the fans would be happy for him to stay as a number 2.

{Ed002's Note - You must have a very short memory.}

6.) 15 Aug 2018 20:33:42
While there are some cretins, I think the ovation he received on his Anfield return speaks volumes to how the real fans feel about him.

7.) 15 Aug 2018 20:53:43
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. At this stage I’d be happy for Karius to go and prove himself elsewhere and Migs to stay as reserve. 👍🏻.

8.) 15 Aug 2018 21:22:47
Saying ‘He should have moved at the first opportunity’ implies that he has had a chance to move and didn’t take it. Therefore I hardly think we can blame Klopp if he is still at Liverpool when the window closes.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure Klopp is not responsible for anything at all.}

9.) 15 Aug 2018 22:54:59
Actually I think it is fair to blame Klopp for the goalkeeper situation at the club, it has been a shambles for some time. Mignolet and Karius were told they were no1 keeper, then Ward has just wasted a whole year out of his career when it was obvious he needed to go back out on loan for his sake.
Ed02 is right, Karius position is untenable, the vile abuse he and his family has received is despicable. Any mistake Karius made this season would have been magnified and the pressure he would have felt at away grounds would have been too great.
However i do not understand why Liverpool put crazy prices on players they clearly do not want, and put off any potential suitors, surely a more reasonable price to move the goalkeepers on would be beneficial to everybody in the long run.

10.) 17 Aug 2018 10:04:49
*”Karius recieves abuse from some cretins; let’s blame Klopp it must be his fault”

Actually no, it’s the fault of a few mindless persons why Karius will struggle to hold down a role with the club.

11.) 17 Aug 2018 22:09:32
I never said it was Klopps fault for the abuse Karius received, as you rightly say that was down to the cretins. I think he handled the Danny Ward situation poorly. How was Ward going to get game time over Karius and Mignolet, the whole season was wasted for him.
Klopp is doing a brilliant job and bought so well this season, but we are allowed to occasionally criticize him, the goalkeeper situation definitely could have been handled better.




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07 Apr 2021 20:09:07
With regards to us a an attacking force I have found the below stats.

In our last 20 matches we have scored precisely 4 goals in the opening 45 minutes and 1 of those was against Villa youth team and another 2 in first half injury time.

In our last 6 games shots on target in the first half have been one, one, five, two, zero, zero with the 2nd leg against Leipzig being the standout of 5 on target.


1.) 07 Apr 2021 21:40:10
Good job a game lasts 90 minutes then isn’t it.

2.) 07 Apr 2021 21:40:10
Good job a game lasts 90 minutes then isn’t it.

3.) 07 Apr 2021 22:12:10
I bet you’re a right barrel of laughs at parties Thunderbird 🙄.

4.) 08 Apr 2021 00:53:26
Thats the problem with stats - they mean nothing in isolation. If our second half goals win the games then we are an attacking force who peak later in games. Scoring early doesn't mean anything. Its the end result that counts.

5.) 08 Apr 2021 05:00:19
Yes it is so if we don't concede in the first half. Then its alright but when we concede in first half we end up loosing games.

6.) 08 Apr 2021 06:04:16
We are just not very good atm, whichever stats you look at. Klopp will really earn his money in the next week. No idea how he will pick his team for the Villa match.

Rest Robbo
Play Davis
Jones has to play
Firmino is fresh must play
Time for the OX
Mane a rest

Klopp won’t be sleeping well.

7.) 08 Apr 2021 06:37:16
I dreamofgini I agree mate some stats can mean very little but they can also prove a lot. I’m Sure every club and manager use stats so they must think they are a little relevant. It’s right if our 2nd half goals win us the games then what does it matter. One stat that def does count is in our last 21 games we’ve only won 8 games (1 v villa kids) drawn 3 and Lost 10.

8.) 08 Apr 2021 07:04:22
Agree Mark could be one of if not the biggest week of our season. Worst case we could be out of Europe and another league defeat. Best best case we could be in CL semi final and 4th in the league. Out of the 2 being 4th in the league sounds the easier. Plus winning at Anfield on sat will put us in better mindset for next wed.

9.) 08 Apr 2021 07:32:19
I’m not a massive one for stats especially when it comes to ball possession, look back at Leicester, they won the league as the team with least amount of possession during the whole season. Completed passes is another one, no good if it’s in your own half and side to side.

Shots and shots on target however is quite crucial, if you don’t shoot you aren’t going to score. And whilst the defence has been massively exposed this season, we have also really faltered in the final third big time. Our failure to score has been just as alarming as the defensive issues - all bar the Palace game.

10.) 08 Apr 2021 07:59:55
Markp08 a midfield of Jones, Fabinho and Ox is a recipe for disaster. Put that out against Villa and they’ll beat us, but that our against Madrid and they’ll slaughter us. Jones is too inexperienced to be put in that position and Ox is not disciplined or skilful enough. It’s “either or” alongside Fabinho and Thiago.

11.) 08 Apr 2021 09:01:18
Ox is finished he’s a 15 minute man now sadly!

12.) 08 Apr 2021 10:53:57
Drogie stats can be manipulated mate and as you have said they do not win you games but they do paint a picture. Our stats show we are dominating possession in most games but not getting hardly any shots on target and you cannot score if you don't hit the target.

The stats i put up were from first half to show how slow we are starting games and struggling so to be fair ill post the 2nd half stats also. Out of those 20 games we have scored 21 goals in the 2nd half with 3 coming against Villa's kids, 1 against Utd in cup and 4 against Leipzig.

So the 16 remaining league games we scored 14 goals in the 2nd half. And 10 of them came in 4 games so that leaves 4 goals in the other 12.

In the full 90 mins we have had the following shots on target 3, 4, 1, 13 (Villa Kids), 4, 4, 6, 7, 5, 4, 5, 4, 3, 6, 8, 5, 3, 2, 4 and 7

This is only a discussion piece and to be honest you don't really need stats to see we have struggled massively since the Palace game. Yes we have had a few good performances in that time but we've also had some dreadful ones.

13.) 08 Apr 2021 10:58:39
Drogie even at that, The level of quality of the shots taken/ on target do matter. For example, you can have 10 shots on target and look dangerous BUT if the shots or chances created have a low probability of being converted then, it does not mean a lot in reality.

14.) 08 Apr 2021 13:25:28
My list was supposed to be questions for Klopp. Anyhow I do think Jones will play v Villa and hopefully Milner will play lb as Robbo is knackered.

15.) 08 Apr 2021 19:32:10
I have already pointed out about the lack of first half goals. Matches may last 90 minutes but goals scored early on put tghe pressure on the opposition.



20 Jan 2021 09:24:41
I think Klopp should throw caution to the wind and go back to heavy metal football of, you score and we’ll score more. I’d rather see us try and win games 4-3 or 5-4 than the last month where it’s been 0-0 or 1-1. After all, we now have Allison a in goal compared to last time of Mignolet or karius.

Sod possession football of playing backwards and side to side. Just attack and play riskier. Draws are ok for teams at the bottom trying to get to 35 points but are almost worthless at the top. If we ain’t going to win the league we might as well entertain trying.


1.) 20 Jan 2021 09:41:28
Might aswell. But teams don't really want to go blow for blow with us anymore because they fear mane and salah so will naturally sit deeper.

{Ed0666's Note - I’d swap Bobby for Shaq for a while and see what happens. Shaq would have to work his gonads off tho pressing, linking up play as well as being offensive.

2.) 20 Jan 2021 09:52:41
Taki deserves and chance in Bobby's place for me.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure Barry. I think we will see Taki go in the summer.

3.) 20 Jan 2021 10:37:41
Really why is that Ed0666?

{Ed0666's Note - I think it’s telling that he hasn’t been used as sub the last few games (not first sub anyway) especially as we didn’t have an array of offensive options off the bench. Klopp won’t replace a low on confidence Bobby with a ready to go Taki speaks volumes to me. Also when he has played he’s not really shone. I would love him to take his opportunity as I think first and foremost he’s a nice guy and a talented footballer. He’s always making himself busy and causing mischief in the box. I hope I’m wrong and he gets his chance against Burnley tommorow.

4.) 20 Jan 2021 13:07:47
To play the heavy metal football as you called it. we need the opponents to do their bit, and play football. West brom, Brighton and Southampton really just keep packing their defences and hope to knick a goal. Boring football.

{Ed0666's Note - heavy metal also consists of a press and a counter press something we’ve not been doing efficiently enough for a while hence our blip

5.) 20 Jan 2021 14:18:07
Maybe not so much as heavy metal then but more like all out attack rather than possession based football whilst creating little chances against named teams who park the bus. 4213 but with the fullbacks almost as wingers. Keep Salah and Mane in the box as I reckon 98% of our last 50 crosses we’ve got 1 player in the box against 6 defenders.

6.) 20 Jan 2021 21:10:45
Not sure we even play heavy metal football anymore and haven’t done so in three years.



24 Dec 2020 15:52:42
Highlights of Harvey Elliott out on loan.


1.) 24 Dec 2020 17:34:04
Bloody excited about this kid. He’s 17!

Blackburn look like an entertaining team to watch.

2.) 24 Dec 2020 18:07:51
As i understand it Shaq Attack their tactics go about as far as ‘pass the ball to Elliott and hope for the best’.

This boy is seriously special. He’s at a higher level already than Sterling or maybe even Gerrard were when they broke through at that age, maybe with this seasons experience he could even seriously start to push for a place in the starting lineups this season. Don’t want to put pressure on him but its hard to not get excited by a player as good as him for his age.

3.) 24 Dec 2020 19:27:26
He's only 17 give him as much time as possible.



01 Nov 2020 13:43:17
What’s everyone’s thoughts on next 2 games.
Do we go full strength for both or another rotation for the CL giving players 8 days recovery for City game?


1.) 01 Nov 2020 16:44:45
Full tilt then international break.

2.) 01 Nov 2020 16:46:17
I would love to see Jota, Shaq and Minamino versus Atalanta, joined by Mane as 4-2-3-1 cb is a strange one, Gomez is a must as we don't have anyone else for as senior, as of yet as we don't know about Matip. Rhys might play or we may go with Gini or Hendo as cb. I don't know, no one knows now. That's what makes it interesting season for us fans of LFC. So far I'm enjoying every bit of it, even the villa one, as to be honest I was laughing at one point when I watched it. Plus we needed someone to awaken us.

3.) 01 Nov 2020 17:04:13
Mart I do think Shaq and Minamino do deserve minutes but I’d also like to see Jota start some games with Salah and Mane. I’d like to see Matip and Thiago get some minutes because I think both will start against city so think it will be a big ask throwing them straight in with no match fitness In last few weeks. The great thing is we have a hell of a squad and like yourself I’m enjoying the rollercoaster of a season it’s already been.

4.) 01 Nov 2020 17:15:26
Atalanta are a good side they love a goal!
We go full tilt get the job done.

5.) 01 Nov 2020 17:41:32
We should always go full strength!

6.) 01 Nov 2020 19:41:38
The squad is having to deal with a lot of injuries right now but for the first time in many a year I do feel like if JK did rotate the squad I would still feel relatively confident and excited to see how the team plays with Minamino, jota, Shaq etc. For a long time and until very recently, rotation meant nerves and anxiety in my house. Life is good.

7.) 01 Nov 2020 19:59:23
I think Shaqiri deserves to jump over Jones in the pecking order. And definitely ahead of Keita, whenever Keita is able to play (once in a blue moon) . Just like Jota has jumped ahead of Minamino.

For Atalanta, I would not go full tilt, and maybe even settle for a draw because we can afford it. Only because of the game coming after that. It is absolutely crucial that we beat ManC. It plays a large psychological role in how the other teams view us for the rest of the season (fear us or have a go as some have been doing) . We need to be at full strength, mentally calm, think about our last game against them and get some payback. A loss for them would deflate their sails, without question. More and more talk about Pep's position as manager, and a defeat would throw more doubts into their confidence.

8.) 01 Nov 2020 20:14:08
Aray. I agree that a win at City is more valuable that at Atalanta but we shouldn't underestimate momentum. I do feel that we can rotate in Europe and push hard for the big win then have our "Best 11" (if there is such a thing now) for vity. Hopefully one of the less regular starters will put in a performance that earns him a City start.

9.) 01 Nov 2020 20:16:21
Atalanta are no joke and should not be underrated in the slightest. We need to go as strong as we can and at least try to get a point away from home. As to the line up, it will depend. I think Shaq and Mino should start and then bring in the big guns upfront to close out the game. As for CB’s, Matip will have to play one of either Atalanta or City at best do we shall see.

10.) 01 Nov 2020 22:48:55
Go full pelt at Atalanta and start rotating subs when were hopefully a couple of goals up.



25 Oct 2020 13:11:45
Liverpool fans have raised £113,062.18 so far in only 24 hours by donating to Supporting Foodbanks rather than paying £14.95 to watch Liverpool v Sheffield on PPV.

This is class 👏

Foodbank donate


1.) 25 Oct 2020 13:22:51
And Everton fans 😉. Fantastic effort. Just imagine what all fans could do over a period of time?

2.) 25 Oct 2020 14:50:33
I hope the greedy cash rich clubs take a hard look at themselves and consider the families on the bread line who still buy the over priced club strips, year in year out. The fans are just a cash cow for clubs to milk.




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04 Apr 2021 18:33:00
6Times I can definitely see where you’re coming from mate and whilst I agree Mane hasn’t been to his usual standards if he had scored a few more of the chances he has missed then it could be a totally different conversation. To me he looks like a player that is trying to hard and is short of confidence in the box rather than a player in decline. The frustrating part for me last night was after he slipped the first 2 times why didn’t he change his boots to longer studs. Salah could have had 3 last night and so could have Mane. The only difference in withered performance was Salah got a goal and Mane didn’t. For me both are still as good as they have been but have both been playing in a struggling team. When you’re both the key men to opposition it’s quite hard to leave your mark.




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04 Apr 2021 15:29:50
If we are selling Mane solely on him being 29 does that mean Hendo, Vvd, Allison (in Oct) and Salah will have to be sold as well.




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04 Apr 2021 08:53:15
It’s great when people say Bobby is a big part of the system. It’s like no other forward in world football closes defenders down and Mane and Salah cannot score without him. You only have to look at the games where he goes off or doesn’t play and that proves that theory wrong. Mane, Jota and Salah can all play anywhere in the front 3 and still score goals. For me Bobby can only play in the middle and still doesn’t score a great deal. Fans are even calling for him to play in midfield just to get him in the team. With the current money situation in football i can’t see anyone spending big money so if we sell Mane it could be at a far lower price than what people believe. Bobby is a firm favourite of Klopps but so is Mane and Salah so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them all stay.




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29 Mar 2021 09:00:27
Thunderbird it’s starting to spread now all over the internet mate.
BREAKING: Liverpool working to finalise deal for Ibrahima Konate from RB Leipzig. Not done but significant progress made + LFC pursuit of 21yo French centre-back now advanced. Likely his ~€40m release clause will need paying.




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23 Mar 2021 14:54:22
Cracking post Irish.





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08 May 2021 10:25:07
If Hendo returning means he plays in the Euros I would rather we don’t see him. If top 4 was in our hands then Hendo back would be great for us. But for us to get top 4 there’s far too many working parts we need to fall in place with or without him. Same applies for VVD and Trent I hope both of them also miss the Euros. In the next 12 months we have the prospect of losing players to the Euros, Olympics and African Nations. The Euros affect the pre season and the other 2 could disrupt our actual season.




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07 May 2021 18:41:19
Aray you and Ed002 are correct mate. Stockpiling was probably not the word i was looking for. What I mean though is because of teams being able to pay high wages very much including ourselves we as well as others have far more players in the squad these days who are more than happy to pick up a pay cheque week in week out. If you look back to the 80’s and 90’s when pitches were worse, tackles were flying in and players never got tired or fatigued then most of the clubs would use a squad of 16 - 18 players. These days the big teams including ourselves have players earning more a week for hardly any minutes of football than what the majority of players from 70% of our opposition earn and are actually playing week in week out. These players should be banging down the managers doors asking for more minutes but they don’t. If their wages were reduced they would be banging doors then. And let’s be honest reducing Pro footballers wages so it’s taking them a month to earn the working mans annual salary rather than a week isn’t going to disrupt them too much.




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07 May 2021 13:11:14
Ed002 cheers for the reply mate hope you are well. What I meant with regards to performance and appearance fees is them to be a higher percentage compared to a weekly wage. Some players are earning 100k plus a week and hardly playing any football and if they did play say for example they would get 10k appearance fee. For me that should be reversed. 10k a week and then a substantial fee based on making the starting 11 or coming on and then depending on performance they get paid whatever is agreed.
With regards to stockpiling I will use Liverpool as the example they have players like Kieta, Shaq and Ox who are earning more money a week than players who are playing 90 mins a week, week in week out. It’s great to have a squad but when you have a squad of 26 players all on big wages then it’s no wonder they don’t want to move on to play more football. And I thought that’s what footballers would want. To actually play football.


{Ed002's Note - There is no chance that players would move to a club offering tiny wages and large bonuses. The likes of Keita were huge purchasing mistakes, Shapiro is a squad player and was purchased as such. Oxlade-Chamberlain has had injury issues, but if he were sold in the summer he would be replaced. But I don’t see any of this as stockpiling.}



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07 May 2021 12:41:03
Would make a difference if players were paid most of their salaries for actually playing football and then performance related. Far too many players are earning a massive wage for training all week and then either not performing on the pitch or not even getting on the pitch. They are more than happy to sit out their contracts and earn a massive wage. This would stop the big clubs stick piling their squads as players won’t be earning millions to hardly play. Transfer fees and Wages would drop significantly for clubs but then it would be over to the owners and broadcasters to then give back to the fans by reducing ticket prices and tv prices. Not for them to pocket. Sadly though the world we live in I can’t see the players or owners being too forthcoming in losing any percentage of what they are currently earning.


{Ed002's Note - Performance related bonuses are already paid. Clubs are limited on squad size so the "big clubs" are not stockpiling players.}



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02 May 2021 11:15:21
Grino you’re going to upset people mentioning the word “Deadwood”. The best fans in the world don’t like that word 🙄.


{Ed001's Note - it is just disrespectful to call people that.}