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28 Apr 2022 10:00:46
Guys, just seen that LFC and Klopp are in negotiations for a contract extension beyond 2024 Can anyone confirm this? It came from Paul Joyce apparently.

OliRed

{Ed002's Note - Michael Edwards has said that the club would look to persuade Klopp not to leave at the end of his contract.}


1.) 28 Apr 2022 10:06:49
I hope it happens. Would be the biggest signing in decades.


2.) 28 Apr 2022 10:15:23
Looks true his agent was at the game last night to speak with FSG afterwards. Best signing we will make if it happens.

{Ed002's Note - FSG?}


3.) 28 Apr 2022 10:28:03
Best news possible…. It’s really the biggest piece of the jigsaw…. Really hope he does extend his contract.

Only thing left then will be to extend the Kop … I know there are infrastructure issues but surely there is some way to do it?

{Ed002's Note - There is no way around the infrastructure issues and the huge additional costs the club would face from the Council.}


4.) 28 Apr 2022 10:32:46
Assuming he meant Mike Gordon Ed he was at the game last night to maybe try and convince him to stay longer.

{Ed002's Note - That is not how contract discussions are dealt with. Whilst both may well have been at the game there would not be such discussions after the match.}


5.) 28 Apr 2022 11:57:07
This could be the fastest negotiation in history:

FSG: What do you want Jurgen?

Klopp: Lifetime contract, £500k a week and free teeth whitening.

FSG: Here you go, we have one ready prepared.

Klopp: [whilst signing] So, shall we take Mo to Pret to get his sorted next?


6.) 28 Apr 2022 12:04:47
This would the best signing ever! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼.


7.) 28 Apr 2022 12:09:39
Possibly they were just meeting up for a pint after the match Ed02?

{Ed002's Note - Seems most likely - or pehaps they met during the day?}


8.) 28 Apr 2022 13:56:32
Please God, he signs an extension. 🙏🏻
This would be the best news ever.
The thought of him leaving doesn’t even bare thinking about.
YNWA.


9.) 28 Apr 2022 14:13:03
This would be fantastic. I’m not sure Klopp could do elsewhere what he’s done with Liverpool. Other clubs at his elite level simply wouldn’t afford him the time to deliver what he was granted here. Hopefully he knows that and will give us an extra 2/ 3years before retiring or taking over the German national team?

{Ed0666's Note - every club in world football would give him 2 years he’s Jurgeun F’ckin Klopp!!!


10.) 28 Apr 2022 14:37:25
But where would he go Ed0666 that’s the issue? Do you see him at Barcelona or Real because surely they are the only teams at or around our level? I don’t see him at PSG and none of the Italian clubs are that great at the moment. Doubt he’d go to Bayern really.

I’m in no way questioning the man, he’s a hero, but where is a logical step up from here? May as well carry on the good work here after bringing in the likes of Konate and Diaz to make the squad a bit younger.

{Ed0666's Note - who cares mate he’s signed a 2 year extension!! I’m
So f’ckin happy 😂😂😂


11.) 28 Apr 2022 14:58:13
He and all his assistants HAVE signed 2-year extensions! Expect an announcement soon.


12.) 28 Apr 2022 15:18:50
As long as my old mate Bobby Smythe is alive and living in Skerries Road, The Kop or Kenny Dalglish stands will not be extended. He's as Blue as his language.


13.) 28 Apr 2022 16:29:47
Wants Backing on signings, wanting Mane and Salah sorting, backroom staying on, option for longer, best contract negotiation i've seen.


14.) 28 Apr 2022 17:01:50
I bet the statue company are p. ed 😂.


15.) 28 Apr 2022 18:45:02
Clearly Klopp has an affection for pit ponies, dead dogs, flat caps and smog.

Best news ever!


16.) 29 Apr 2022 03:09:32
Well, wherever they met it looks like they are on the same page Ed02 - that might have been the shortest contract negotiation in the history of the sport.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea how long it has taken to reach agreement.}


 

 

 

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06 Mar 2024 12:15:48
Just saw a brilliant stat about Darwin. Darwin has scored 7 goals away from home in the PL this season.

He has opened the scoring 4 times and scored 3 stoppage time and of those stoppage time goals, 2 have been stoppage time winners. Not to forget the game winner at B'mouth in the Carabao Cup.

Yeah, opposing fans. Keep calling our Darwizzy "a s*** Andy Carroll" and let's see how that works out for you.

OliRed

1.) 06 Mar 2024 13:37:16
Even fans chant it in jest now, I believe. The game is coming round to the fact that Nunez is a world class player and that’s all there is to it.


2.) 06 Mar 2024 14:09:15
Carroll scored 6 goals in 44 appearances. Nunez has already exceeded that (29 goals)


3.) 06 Mar 2024 18:14:22
That’s precisely the point isn’t it cooler? (From a sarcastic pov) . He’s so s*** at being AC!

Nunez is a s*** Andy Caroll!
I love the ring of it.
And then he scores and you are left wondering do I continue chanting that or not?
Let it keep coming and then we see how we keeps scoring and they are left to re-examine their reality.


4.) 06 Mar 2024 18:33:45
@Cooler to your point, when people call Darwizzy "a s*** Andy Carroll" that means that Darwin is a worse version of Carroll which intimates that Carroll was actually a good CF, something NOBODY with a functioning brain has ever said. These fans just sing senseless nonsense without even judging the context. Go figure.


5.) 06 Mar 2024 19:54:05
I don't know what worse, calling Nunez a s*** Andy Carroll or calling him Darwizzy!


6.) 06 Mar 2024 21:13:16
£85m down the drain; Darwin Nunez scores again.


7.) 06 Mar 2024 22:53:52
TB2, tons of LFC fans (prolly the young hipsters) online call him Darwizzy.


8.) 07 Mar 2024 00:48:12
So you’re saying you’re a hipster Oli?


9.) 07 Mar 2024 09:35:28
Oli I got to say man I love watching him - yes he could definitely score more and needs to be more clinical but jeez, he is pure chaos for defenders and to be fair to him he never stops pressing, working etc and even when he has missed a few, he doesn't let it affect him, he just keeps going - absolute nightmare for defenders to pick up lol.


10.) 07 Mar 2024 12:50:05
Rival fans at their home ground should not be allowed to sing banterish songs about our players.

They gave Nunez some stick (which is an underhand compliment) and he had the last laugh by scoring. Not really sure what the fuss is all about.


11.) 07 Mar 2024 13:21:20
JK23, read the post again. No fuss is being made about anything. If anything, we are extolling Darwin's qualities and some f the stuff he has actually done and having a laugh at the rival fans. That's it.

Nobody has said rival fans cannot banter our players. You are the only one saying that. Don't be the Party Pooper. It does not fit you, lol.


12.) 07 Mar 2024 13:22:06
Thunderbird 2, if the shoe fits?


13.) 07 Mar 2024 13:45:06
Calm down Oli we got a big game on Sunday that you’ll need to free stream on youtube hours after the final whistle so don’t be wasting all your internet data telling people what they can and can’t do on here.


14.) 07 Mar 2024 14:07:55
Apparently chanting about Nunez is disgusting and despicable .

Oli this is your post 4 days ago.

IronMan, same goes for the Meicester fans last season. So happy they got relegated and Im afraid, the same goes for these lot from the Forest fan base.

Those Forest fans to be specific, got exactly what their disgusting behaviour deserved. Hats off to them for helping their team lose. Long may it continue should they keep up this despicable behaviour. All the way to the Championship, if need be. Hey if the shoe fits, wear it and wear it with pride and chest.

“If you’re going to continue to try and talk down to
People on here like you’re superior At least try not to
Contradict yourself so much”.


15.) 07 Mar 2024 16:44:46
It's all part of the game and has been for years. As long as it stays the right side of the banter/ abuse line then just go with it.

I still smile at the memory of entire crowds singing "If Carlton Palmer plays for England, so can I".

{Ed025's Note - its all good banter and there is nothing wrong with it in my book Shipley, its even better when the player being slagged scores and shoves one right up their jaxi,s mate..


16.) 07 Mar 2024 16:53:47
JK23.

Not that Oli can't defend himself but I think his data may have ran out.

That being said, I think that post may of been aimed at the other chants the Forest fans were singing. I may be wrong tho.

Fans chant that at Darwin because they are just jealous he ain't in their team.


17.) 07 Mar 2024 17:21:27
Forest fans found out that hard way that effing around is directly proportionate to finding out.


 

 

26 Feb 2024 13:54:47
Just found this online and it is killing me.


Official PGMOL statement regarding the officiating in last night's League Cup final btw Chelsea and Liverpool:

"We would have gotten away with it had it not been for those pesky kids".

Seriously, I'm finished.

OliRed

1.) 26 Feb 2024 15:04:19
That honestly can't be serious. It must be some joke or some feeble attempt at cynicism or sarcasm.


2.) 26 Feb 2024 15:10:20
Scooby-Doo Doo quote .


3.) 26 Feb 2024 15:30:47
always nice to see rubels fc suffer and it probably hurt more the way we won but that was other goal ruled out that will never happen again or even be checked by var unless its against lfc.


4.) 26 Feb 2024 15:54:27
ArAy1969 as Mcgoveb said, it's a reference from the Scooby Doo cartoons. I thought it was hilarious, really.


5.) 26 Feb 2024 17:56:43
Ahhhhhh. It's been 50 years since I last watched cartoons. You guys still watch them? ?.


6.) 26 Feb 2024 18:06:41
Nah, ArAy1969, some of us just have a good memory. or better yet, we never fully grew up and remain young. At heart, lol.


7.) 26 Feb 2024 18:53:12
To be fair ArAy, that quote is part of pop culture nowadays, you don't have to have watched scooby doo years ago to know about it. But to answer your question, yes, I'm 40 and still watch cartoons!


8.) 26 Feb 2024 19:30:45
Well, gentlemen, squeeze me for not having a good memory, for being fully grown up,
and for being oblivious to pop culture! Geez, Ed025 is so right. You LFC supporters are so uptight!


9.) 26 Feb 2024 19:39:39
Cowabunga, dude!


10.) 26 Feb 2024 20:01:09
Rugby Parker, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan from the 90's, I presume?


11.) 26 Feb 2024 22:54:10
You got me Oli, Michaelangelo was always my favourite!


12.) 27 Feb 2024 07:55:27
Oli, I collect Marvel and DC comic books. Have like 10,000 of them. Most of it from the 80's and 90's. The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles included. ?.


13.) 27 Feb 2024 10:10:26
ArAy1969, not a fan of comics in general . That being said, I totally LOVE the Batman cartoons of the 90's produced by Werner Bros. Those were pretty dark and sinister like horror movies, IMO.


 

 

10 Jan 2024 18:05:34
Okay guys, so I learned a new one today called "Field Tilt". Hear me out.

According to a few Arsenal fans in the first half of the FA Cup game when it was goaless, went on the Tw@tter and said even tho the game was goaless, Arsenal were better based on Field Tilt.

Now can anyone tell me what this schtick means cos I have no idea what it is?


Thanks, guys.

OliRed

1.) 10 Jan 2024 18:16:31
Having looked it up, it's the number of touches each team has in the final third of the pitch expressed as a percentage of the overall touches in the final third by both teams.

So for example, if Arsenal had 200 touches in our third of the pitch, and we had 100 touches in theirs, their Field Tilt is 66%.

These sort of stats aren't entirely useless for examining performances, but realistically what does Arsenal's apparently superior Field Tilt tell us when juxtaposed with the scoreline of 2-0 Liverpool? That Arsenal can't finish their dinner? I could tell that by watching the game.

{Ed002's Note - very exciting- in the good old days it was goals folks used to use as a guide.}


2.) 10 Jan 2024 18:21:21
I don't need to know what field tilt is to know that in the first half Arsenal were the better team. Anyone with eyes could see that.


3.) 10 Jan 2024 18:56:53
If a stat does not have any relevance to the final result of the game, how much use does it have? Arsenal clearly had a higher field tilt than us, but they still lost. And the only use I see for analytical purposes is to point out inefficiency and ineptitude of their players. Which will be great for the Arsenal players' confidence and morale.

And for our players, this kind of stat falsely indicates we "overachieved". Which is another "not so useful" sentiment to have in the dressing room.

Obviously, a pinball obssessed nut is responsible for this new stat.


4.) 10 Jan 2024 18:58:57
Ed02, that's what I was going for cos back in the day, it's either you scored a goal when you were in the box or you didn't. Nobody cared about all the other stuff @SR kindly explained. cos apparently now, these Arsenal fans were bragging about how they won the first half by winning the "Field Tilt" battle despite having no goals (you know, that thing that you need to win) to show for such a "win".

Thanks for the info, @SR btw.


5.) 10 Jan 2024 19:26:38
If games were won on “field tilt” Barnet would win the league, given the size of the gradient at Underhill.


6.) 10 Jan 2024 19:36:54
Just another useless stat for morons on YouTube to make shows about and for the betting companies to scam more money out of people.


7.) 10 Jan 2024 19:44:10
Again, I don't think these sort of stats are entirely useless. They're potentially useful for determining how a team is playing and how likely they are to get good results in the future or if a bad result was a fluke or unlucky.

But they can't be taken in isolation. Take xG for example. Got an xG of 3.1 whilst your opponents got an xG of 0.8 and you lost 1-0?

Okay, how many shots did you have? If it was let's say 9 or 10 shots, then you're unlucky and will likely win next time doing the same things. If you had 35 shots and an xG of 3.1, that means you basically did not get into the opposition area, kept trying to shoot from 30 yards, and need to rethink your tactics.

And ultimately, stats don't replace watching the bloody game do they? That's why scouts still exist.

{Ed001's Note - it is not unlucky necessarily though. I mean Arsenal spent big money on Jesus, despite knowing he can't finish his dinner. So if they miss lots of chances and they are falling to him, that isn't luck, that is him being poor.}


8.) 10 Jan 2024 19:46:18
Imagine using goals to decide which football team was better. What a moronic idea, it'll never catch on.


9.) 10 Jan 2024 19:47:50
Couldn't agree more. Arsenal definately have the biggest tit on the field. he's name is ArTITa.


10.) 10 Jan 2024 22:02:54
Ed01, exactly. Jesus was who Arteta, Arsenal and anyone else paying attention, thought he was YET this same people thought he was the one to fire them to a title despite being essentially a failed CF at City playing on the right. In fact, City won a title without a CF despite having this clown in their squad. Trully, they do it to themselves. Same for this wretched stat. And their fans dare compare this bum to the artist named Bobbie Firmino. Seriously?

I knew they would regret selling Balogun for this clown. He is who man of the Arsenal fans whishes Jesus was - a true CF who knows where the goal is. It is Arteta's arrogance that has got him here and they have no one else to blame but him. However, Im sure these same fans (not all of them) will find someone or something else to blame. May I suggest they blame the Anfield pitch for being wet?


11.) 10 Jan 2024 22:18:33
Really dislike Arteta as a manager and worried he’s taking Saka backwards. Not a player who will ever play for Liverpool but someone I’ve enjoyed watching play the last few years. Just didn’t look the same player on Saturday for some reason.


12.) 10 Jan 2024 22:42:30
Arteta looks like he wears mascara.


13.) 10 Jan 2024 23:21:42
I think arteta got what he expected in Jesus and Havertz. Firminio, but saka isn't Salah and martinelli isn't mane. Imo both as false nines have done their job, but arsenals failure is assuming their wingers could reproduce liverpools counterparts and Man City's 1.0 of Sterling and marhez/ sane (their goal contribution assisted by a proper 9/ 10 in aguero playing false 9/ 10 and dragging them through)


 

 

07 Jan 2024 22:18:35
Many Arsenal fans after the game at Anfield, "Wait till you come to The Emirates".


Same fans after the game tonight, "But, but, but. ".

These types of Arsenal fans can't be saved, at this point.

OliRed

 

 

21 Dec 2023 09:58:00
This one is for Beckers Peckers. You said that you provided the benefits of using this inverted FB system. I may have missed it so can you please, provide them to me?

OliRed

1.) 21 Dec 2023 10:25:06
Why not just look at the League Table, see our goals scored and conceded to see the benifits? Can you tell me how many times Gomez has came on at Right Back in a game we were losing or drawing and altered the result?
Do you still support Ljinders as our next manager? Or have you changed your mind?


2.) 21 Dec 2023 11:02:13
Well the games against Bournemouth and Newcastle where we went down to 10 men which forced us to ditch the inverted tactic. We were dreadful before the switch of system and then won both games.


3.) 21 Dec 2023 11:28:15
Last year we didn't have a midfield that could press well in midfield so Klopp compensated by getting an extra man in there. Less space to cover per man. Better press.

It also gets Arnold on the ball more in midfield areas. Something that works well when we are being attacked but Arnold is more dangerous wide when there's a low block. There's no doubt he can play both positions. If only we had two Arnold's ?

It also helps identify where attacks are more likely to come. Down the right where Arnold vacates and that allows you to tactically set up your defence.

Last year in particular, before the system change were playing through the centre of midfield way too much. You do not want to be attacked through the centre of the pitch as there are far too many options for the attacking team in centre positions to attack well.

The problem we are having with it now is we are losing width in our attack. And Salah is getting dragged further from the goal. There's no doubt he has lost a yard. Still quick but not as fast as before. We should be trying to get him closer to the goal.

I think with a 8 duo of any of Jones, Szobozlai, Mac Allaister, Arnold or Bajcetic with Endo behind we can now play three. I would definitely revert to the traditional 433 myself but the inverted system did have some advantages. I just think now with the new personnel, disadvantages outweigh them.


4.) 21 Dec 2023 12:38:03
Fancy calling someone out just to restart this debate. I saw Becker's response and it made as much sense as the criticism does. I suspect someone may be spending too much time on Football Manager and believing they know better than, erm, actual football managers.

Second in the league, semi-final of the League Cup, routine passage to the last 16 of the Europa League. Yeah, were having an awful season so far aren't we.


5.) 21 Dec 2023 13:11:49
Johnny you are missing the point
The supposed advantages of the inverted system was for last season when our midfielders were leggy, few were fit and couldn’t press as intended
This year, we are where we are not because of the inverted but in spite of as many has stated, we snatched quite a few games late on when we ditched the system.
For this west ham game, we didn’t employ it at all and dominated not just possession and space, but created numerous chances and pressed very well
That’s the argument being made
The system seems to need changing almost every game before we get a result, so what good does it do?


6.) 21 Dec 2023 13:18:21
I’m not typing it out again Oli it was a long post but the main points were about us denying space through the middle of the pitch. With Dom and Curtis getting on the ball and making runs ahead of the attackers we don’t have the protection of Fabs, Hendo and Gini/ Milner who were more defensive ball winners.

Plus with Nunez high through the middle we don’t have the extra man dropping in like Bobby used to as a false 9. Consequently Salah and Diaz have stay wider or they crowd Nunez’s space. This would they crowd the space that the high full backs used to have.

If we play Gakpo as a false 9 and ask Dom and Curtis/ Gravenberch to be more disciplined and closer to the DM then we can play with high fullbacks. That then detracts from their skill set and goal threat though and then you’ll be back to saying we don’t have enough goals in midfield.

Playing the inverted role means Dom and Curtis can get forward, Nunez can stay high and we can get Trent on the ball in the middle of the park in space where he can be deadly.

The issues we’ve been having is because Salah especially wants to come inside too much as he wants goals. He needs to make in to out runs instead of out to in. Same with Diaz. This will then create gaps for Dom and Curtis to run in behind and Trent and Macca can pick them out for fun.

It makes sense if done properly but we only do it properly in spells and aren’t consistent enough with it. Salah and Diaz make the wrong movements which closes space and gives the player on the ball no pass so they go sideways.

With the midfield and attack we now have though it’s the most defensively stable system as we still have 5 defenders to thwart counter attacks.

If we played a 433 with this set of players we’d be defending with 2 CBs and a DM in counter attacking situations which isn’t enough. We’d just concede too many goals as we nearly did against Utd when we reverted to that system. They hadn’t got into our half before that.


7.) 21 Dec 2023 16:07:54
The point is sgynwa if we’d played 433 from the start of the games you mention, we could have been 2 or 3 down and unable to claw it back.

Every time we’ve tried to play 433 we are way too open in midfield and teams can get at us way too easily. It happened last season too before we changed to the inverted system which sured us up at the back.


8.) 21 Dec 2023 16:16:34
Johnny you are missing the point
The supposed advantages of the inverted system was for last season when our midfielders were leggy, few were fit and couldn’t press as intended

@sgynwa

you really believe dropping trent into the middle whole last season was to cover the lack of legs and energy in the middle. My god.
Trent today and last season was deployed as a deep lying playmaker and that has zero relevance to lack og legs or press.


9.) 21 Dec 2023 16:20:11
It’s funny Davey how you say we need Salah closer to the goal and I say we need him to be getting wider, further away from the goal. Opinions.

I just think if we have Nunez through the middle, having Salah also tucking in makes is very easy to defend as the defence can be close and block the spaces. Having Salah and Diaz on the touchline spreads out the defence and leaves space for the 2 attacking mids to exploit.

They can’t just stand out there though because the defence will stay compact and let them receive it out wide. They need to start more centrally and make runs out wide so the defenders go with them. Then Dom and Curtis can move into the space left and also Nunez gets more space centrally.

It’s tough because Salah has been so prolific but I just can’t see how he can be constantly coming inside with Nunez in the team. Perhaps the answer is Nunez on the left and Gakpo as a false 9. Then we have Diaz surplus to requirements and he’s too good for that.

Good problems to have though to be fair.


10.) 21 Dec 2023 16:20:44
Playing the inverted role means Dom and Curtis can get forward

Becker

This. Bloody this is the whole point about the Hybrid system. You see gifted central midfielders doing their job.
why did we even sign a runner in Gravenberch if all we wanted was another workhorse? could have saved millions on Mcallister and Dom.


11.) 21 Dec 2023 16:43:23
IR - Correlation is not causation, and absolutely not in this case. Liverpool are 2nd in the league because our squad is packed with outrageous technical and physical quality, well beyond what most teams in the league can handle. We have a brilliant set of players.
Liverpool in a 4–3-3 with width would win this league, I have no doubt. We have have better players than Arsenal and though City would push us all the way, they look more vulnerable this season.
The inverted system is hindering us, not helping.


12.) 21 Dec 2023 20:52:54
Does that mean the only thing stopping us winning the league this season is Klopp.

He gets the final say on formation etc.


13.) 21 Dec 2023 21:22:56
Bit of crystal ball post from yourself there Lowel mate.


14.) 21 Dec 2023 21:53:46
Exactly right Pecker. Game of opinions. Different people who both have decent knowledge of the game can differ in ideas of how to go about things.

I would definitely switch to traditional 433 from the off.

Salah must be higher up the pitch for me. Closer to the goal but still starting wide. Wide forward, not RM as he plays in the inverted system half the time.

With a traditional RB behind, he gets supported on the wing and so many more options when he gets the ball. RB can make space for Salah by making runs.

I also think we now have the new legs in midfield that can make the three in midfield work again and not be so open as we were last season with the older legs.


15.) 22 Dec 2023 10:32:31
Exactly Davey you can have differing opinions it doesn’t need to be an argument.

I do get the call for the 433 it has served us so well in the past and suits the way Salah wants to play.

The problem I see is the profile of midfield player we have is very different to the midfielders we had 2 years ago. Also the forward line is a completely different dynamic now.

We’ve always played with Bobby or Jota and latterly Mane in a false 9 allowing the wide forwards to come in. That’s not possible with Nunez through the middle as he stays too high.

If we want to play with midfielders like Dom and Jones they need protection when they get forward which they won’t get if the fullbacks are bombing on. Inverting a fullback gives them protection and licence to get forward.

The fact is, no system is fool proof but both would work if the players in it perform their roles correctly.


 

 

 

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29 Nov 2023 17:58:57
Ed02 and maybe you can't or you have addressed it already but can you tell us a few of the "other" options we are looking at for the CB position? Thanks, man.

OliRed

{Ed002's Note - I have provided a list.}


 

 

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29 Nov 2023 18:01:57
Ed01, I think you should abort mission on this one cos the longer you keep going, the less intelligent you're going to look.

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27 Nov 2023 21:24:38
Nunez should be nowhere near any wide position except him drifting ovzer there during games.

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27 Nov 2023 21:23:28
Love Olise, Ron. One to watch.

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27 Nov 2023 21:21:58
Lee, this topic is clearly not your strong point cos it seems you are giving simplistic answers that anyone can give, to severely complex topics.

Hence, you should propbably do a lot more research on it rather than mentioning Brighton as some kind of role model whereas, they have nowhere near the type of ambition LFC have. Just a thought.

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18 Mar 2024 20:53:08
Red-Will-is-1, it's not like you could field the academy in a European game either cos that goes against UEFA's competitino guidelines. We fielded the team we had and Klopp got reviews for doing so so as to rotate, give guys like Szobo and Salah minutes to get up to speed with their finess. Same goes for Robbo.

Not sure what the prob. is here cos Klopp has been doing this since Jan in an injury crises. This is nothing new and cos it did not work on this one occasion does NOT mean it was the wrong decision either as recent history has shown. Or are we now engaging in hidsight stuff again just cos we lost our 4th game in all comps. this season, everyone now seem to be geniuses after the fact?

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18 Mar 2024 17:00:07
StEtienneAmen, Im not saying you did that specifically. All Im saying is that such a comparison should not even be made in jest or in truth cos the imbalance within such a comparison is not even worth debating, IMO.

Am not bothered one bit if Danns has been doing all that in the youth team cos the last time I checked, the FA Cup game we played at OT vs Utd was not the Youth FA Cup so again, the comparison is flawed.

Gakpo is better physically, technically and more experienced than Danns and even Danns would tell you that, IMO. Him being the new kid on the block will NOT change that any time soon. Gakpo is a very good player and vey talented BUT going thru a rough patch. Clearly, he is the first player in history to go thru that. So is it too much to ask to leave it like that rather than engage in false, unbalanced comparisons? Just asking for a friend.

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18 Mar 2024 16:55:19
@FSGfleecingus, you must be off your rocker if you think I would compare Big Boy footie vs grown men at OT in the FA up to a kick-about in the U-18's. Come back when you have an actual argument to make rather than the utter stuff I just read in your response.

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18 Mar 2024 16:53:18
Nice one, lads. For me, the subs have been great from the off this season so for the one time it does not go well (esp. with the injuries and fatigue we are dealing with right now), not sure it's that big of an effect. As I have said before and I was peeved we lost BUT at the end of the day, the fatigue told at the end on these players minds and bodies after the past weeks playing every 3 days and essentially winning all our games including a Cup at Wembley. Can't cheat nature, Im afraid. It's undefeated for a reason.

That being said, we play Utd again in the PL and that is the game I would have lost my crap had we lost it this way with all the collective and individual mistakes. so not arsed cos well, again, Klopp did not promise me a Quad so ain't arsed about what I was not promised.

Onto Brighton and trust me, that is the BIGGER than this game Utd won even tho, I never want to lose to that wretched lot who are STILL useless regardless of these "big" result.

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18 Mar 2024 16:46:41
@FSG, you attacking Gakpo is just showing your wretched attempt at scapegoating cos he was NOT even on the pitch when those chances were being missed so take a day off with the scapegoating cos it is just petty and of poor taste. Gakpo is one of the reasons we are even here to begin with cos he and Diaz were the only two forwards who were fit and helped us win 4 games in ELEVEN days, something Klopp himself did not think was possible before hand. He is having a bad time of it, just like Diaz and Darwin did earlier in the season. Pretty sure it happens in football to all players.

And forget the Danns comparison too. He is literally a kid and him coming on to effect the game full of youthful adrenaline suddenly does NOT make him fit enuff to talk to Gakpo who is a muh better player than he is, despite his tough run so far. Miss me with such foolishness, please.

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