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30 Jan 2016 22:43:23
Eds - this may sound strange and I wouldn't have ever thought it could happen, but sometimes it seems that certain players are picked for the league games regardless of performances.
My question is - do some players have certain clauses in their contracts which ensures they have to play certain games / certain number of games if fit? Or have to play league games if fit?
Reasoning is that over the years certain underperforming players are never dropped in favour of upcoming kids.
When you reach a certain point in the league and you're playing for midtable - financially it doesn't mean too much whether you finish 7,8 or 10th and surely at a certain stage, managers think whether they should buy in the summer or give the kids a chance? Yet this doesn't always happen.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

08 Oct 2015 23:43:24
I don't think we should keep harping on about how 'sacking Rodgers in the summer' would have been the perfect scenario. It wouldn't have been pefect if Klopp / CA etc weren't ready to accept our offer.
Imagine, doing the 'right thing' and finding out that the top managers aren't available? What then? Appoint Big Sam?

This knee jerk approach to sacking without a plan has been tried and tested many times before by clubs like Newcastle etc
This is a war, not a battle. Sometimes you have to make choices based upon knowledge - regardless of timings. Gary Mc is a grown-up. He obviously knew the risks / rewards before taking the job

1.) 09 Oct 2015 01:16:14
I have to agree, if he wasn't available in the summer, the club's done exactly the right thing to ensure the right hire and smoothest transition possible. And I generally think the last window brought in the right kind of players, particularly Clyne, Firmino, Milner, Gomez, Ings will all fit Kopp style. Benteke not sure how will cope with the defensive pressing but let's hope works out as he's a class act.

2.) 09 Oct 2015 02:48:41
If Klopp is who they really wanted and were just holding out till he became available then their gamble paid off. I just saw a snippet of Klopp's footie philosophy in an interview on the club's website. He is truly a heavy metal guy when it comes to football. He loves the high press, high pace, high intensity stuf. He comes across as direct as his approach to football. Straight to the point, what you see is what you get. Great guy and someone I would love to hang out with. Welcome to Anfield, Jurgen! We at now all K

3.) 09 Oct 2015 02:49:14
We are now all Kloppites! Finished my post.

04 Oct 2015 13:19:31
DaveyBootle - the situation wasn't all that different. Utd had just finished 7th. The club realised that non qualification for the CL means not just less revenue, but also makes it harder to attract quality.
A manager like CA or LVG sends a message out to footballers that the club means business. These guys can attract better quality players than the likes of BR or Moyes. Unfortunate but true - at least while the club is re-building.
Di Maria may have not worked out but if BR brought him in last year, us fans would have been over the moon.
Personally, I'm not bothered if we get Klopp or even FDB, but one thing a club with ambition should have - is a qualified manager. And by qualified, he should have won titles and possess a winning mentality.
All I mean is that if FSG have ambition, then the Manager should be an extension of this ambition - especially if cash is being spent.
You're not telling me that if Rafa was given £100m a season, he wouldn't have bought class and competed for the title?

1.) 04 Oct 2015 14:48:58
Hold on but man united had a worse record last season under lvg than David moyes in the same number of games except the fact moyes had to compete with European football as well which was a first for him. Also it's incredibly different that man u lost the chairman or whatever he was who's name escapes me the same year as Alex and all man u fans admit that was just too difficult to follow.

Lvg this year yeah they're in a better place than Liverpool but by no means are they guaranteed any more success this season than Liverpool.
I agree I want Carlo ancelotti but your comparison and reasoning make little sense I'm afraid

2.) 04 Oct 2015 15:29:11
No, but Utd appointed Moyes for instant success - Rodgers, to build a squad.

3.) 04 Oct 2015 15:45:23
That is exactly the problem davey.
Rodgers has had the time and the money bought lots of players yet still has not managed to build a squad let alone a team

04 Oct 2015 08:44:42
Although we all hate Utd, I love the way the club realised that they made a mistake early with Moyes and immediately brought a highly experienced manager in - who has PROVEN experience of spending money wisely.
I think if Fenway appoint CA, therefore replicating Utd, this is a huge statement by the club, and moreover an indication that the owners have changed their policies.
CA has an unbelievable CV, and a win ratio of over 60% pretty much wherever he goes - (on par with Jose).
If we appoint Klopp or De Boer, I believe this, however an improvement on BR is also a cheaper, safer option by the club.
Would you have given £300m of your money to a guy with no experience of spending money wisely? Seriously?

1.) 04 Oct 2015 09:16:41
Different situation.

Utd were Champions, Liverpool weren't.

Moves was sacked because he wasn't doing anything with the players at his disposal, FSG knew the squad required rebuilding and appointed Rodgers with no immediate expectations.

2.) 04 Oct 2015 09:18:38
Spending money wisely? Di maria and falcao anyone?

3.) 04 Oct 2015 10:05:14
Jaysus lvg last year was a laughing stock now he's God as well?? What happened

4.) 04 Oct 2015 10:08:51
To be fair reet, most managers would have been overjoyed to sign those two players if they had the chance.
Under fergie utd got it right far more often than we did.
A great example is rio ferdinand. They had to pay a ridiculous-looking 30 million, but he served their club brilliantly at the very highest level for a decade. Same for rooney.
Its shocking and depressing how often we spent badly (or overpaid a lot) over the last 15-20 years- its a rotten tradition that br has very sadly carried on.
Player recruitment is one aspect that we HAVE to fix, regardless of any new manager.

5.) 04 Oct 2015 10:33:21
I disagree. Sadly for me Klopp won't be coming (I think) but he is clearly a bright intelligent man who I seriously doubt would waste the 300 million your talking about. Unless he has a history of doing that which I don't think he does

6.) 04 Oct 2015 10:38:04
It should be one of the first things addressed by the new manager if one is appointed

7.) 04 Oct 2015 11:16:41
To be fair Van Gaal has had a hugely successful career in management.

8.) 04 Oct 2015 11:52:32
Why was lvg a laughing stock last season? After finishing 7th the previous season the aim was to get back into the champions league. With 50 plus injuries and a manager new to the league we achieved that and are now pushing on. We were never going to go from 7th to champions in 12 months. Steady progress since he came in. That's what you need. Don't be thinking if you get klopp or ancelotti in you will win the league in a year or two. Your too far behind like we were to make that jump in 12 months

9.) 04 Oct 2015 12:19:32
To be fair, Di maria had the amazing season at Madrid and came to UTD looking class, i feel it was a difference in quality at utd and possibly different coaching methods where Di maria's form was affected then hit by injuries.

10.) 04 Oct 2015 12:22:29
For once I agree with a Utd fan.

11.) 04 Oct 2015 14:54:44
Yet he had less points per game than moyes who had to deal with European football and was under a lot more pressure and had no help from the board. Lvg only got into the champions league because of others under performing and an inspirational de gea. Neither of which van gaal had anything to do with.

12.) 04 Oct 2015 15:19:13
Shane, we finished the season with more point that we did u see Moyes. Moyes had years of premier league experience, and took over a title winning side. Lvg had no premier league experience, pathetic amount of injuries so never had continuity in the side, and a team that was shot of confidence and in pieces after finishing 7th. Not to mention Rio, vidic and evra gone. Our record against the top 4 teams last year was the best in the league. Was that anything to do with lvg? De Gea is paid to make saves. He did what he is supposed to do. Lvg isn't perfect by any stretch, but don't try telling me he's no better than Moyes

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23 Jan 2016 12:05:54
I do remember, and of course love Alonso as a player like we all do. However, I also remember him being pretty poor that season before he found out Rafa wanted to sell him and this seemed to push him to play even better.

Loved Rafa - imagine trying to manage in that shstorm of ownership? How hard must that have been? But then again I love counter attacking fast paced attacking and love him or hate him, Torres was absolutely sublime.

{Ed001's Note - he was injured and recovering from injury in the season before, but Rafa expected robots and couldn't handle working with a player to help him back to form. Oh and Rafa was the main problem that caused issues, he wasted millions upon millions and caused so many arguments behind the scenes before then taking it public. I love Rafa as a man, but he is useless at man management and he gets too involved in politics to concentrate on club management. He was half the man without Pako Ayesteran.}