04 Nov 2021 16:49:38
Talking about refs etc I'm happy to see reds given for those fouls like last night. A little tug of the shirt and yellow card is one thing but a blatant scythe of the legs when someone is running clear with no intention of playing the ball is something that's needed to be stamped out for a long time.

1.) 04 Nov 2021
04 Nov 2021 18:19:43
Totally agree mate.

2.) 04 Nov 2021
04 Nov 2021 18:43:55
I’d go one further. This ‘taking one fir the team’ should also be a straight red. Invariably, they are stopping a good goal scoring opportunity, usually on the counter. Supporters go to games to see goals, not beaten defenders pulling players back, or even worse, chopping them down. Everyone knows when the foul is deliberate, so why should they get away with it?

3.) 04 Nov 2021
04 Nov 2021 18:55:09
Nothing at all wrong for "taking one for the team" in the correct area of the pitch. I'm more than happy to see our players do it when necessary and get annoyed if they don't and leads to a goal.

4.) 04 Nov 2021
04 Nov 2021 22:40:54
Nah, for me it’s a yellow card, it doesn’t warrant a red for me.
What I don’t like though is 5 subs still in the champions league, means teams like athletico can play dirty and get 5 players booked for bad fouls and dirty tricks, sub them all off and continue to play dirty and pick up another 5 yellows. Well usually anyway. Lol.

5.) 04 Nov 2021
04 Nov 2021 23:13:44
Milly would get a red card every game if that rule got brought in haha.

6.) 05 Nov 2021
05 Nov 2021 01:52:31
Redmersey - Felipe’s foul was not a red card offence, even if his subsequent behaviour necessitated his sending off.
Tactical fouls are another differentiator between the professional and amateur versions of the game, and if you are unwilling to commit one for the benefit of your team then I’m sorry, I’m absolutely not paying to watch you play.
The issue with tactical fouls is when they are used routinely as a defensive strategy enabled by poor refereeing, as we see often in the case of Man City/ Fernandinho, rather than as a last-ditch effort to stop your team likely conceding.

7.) 05 Nov 2021
05 Nov 2021 08:47:01
LoweLFC, but is it a tactical foul when you recklessly rake your studs on someone's calf/ heel and trip him up with your second leg from behind when the player or Mane in this case, is running away on the counter hence, taking away a potential goalscoring chance? That is the sticking point for me. If he had tugged his arm or shirt then fine BUT that's not what happened here.

IMO, if the ref had given him a straight red for everything I described above then, I wouldn't have had a prob with it cos Felipe was endangering the safety of Mane and had he done damage to his heel, would you be saying it was okay? The ref didn't think it was a straight red and that is okay BUT let's not confuse a tactical foul with potentially, dangerous acts and reckless endangerment of a fellow player on the pitch.

{Ed001's Note - how do you know the ref didn't think that?}

8.) 05 Nov 2021
05 Nov 2021 15:24:11
Didn't think what, Ed01?

{Ed001's Note - that it was a straight red. You are making stuff up, the amount of guesswork over this because commentators and pundits are too stupid and clueless to see the stamp on Mane's ankle ahead of the trip is ridiculous. There is not one piece of evidence to support this ludicrous theory that he decided to make it red because the player ignored him.}

9.) 05 Nov 2021
05 Nov 2021 16:22:58
Ed001, I agree it is a bad ‘professional foul’ when shown in slow motion, but I am of the opinion the red was shown for the player ignoring him.
If you look back at the foul the ref had his book in his hand with the yellow card facing up, after I think the third time he blew his whistle shouting the player over, he then switches his book over to the red card. Just my opinion, but I can see why the foul could have been a red card too.

10.) 05 Nov 2021
05 Nov 2021 15:52:34
Hi Ed01, now I understand your question. I mean that if the ref thought it was a straight red (which I think it should have been) then, he should have just brandished it from the off. If he didn't then, it prolly mean he didn't think it was or did not see it completely.

Now if he has had a change of mind in that moment and sent Felipe off then, that is something I cannot comment on, sorry.

{Ed001's Note - again making stuff up. You have no idea and are coming up with embarrassing theories to suit your agenda. There is nothing to say he has to brandish right away.}