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25 Apr 2015 12:21:25
Assuming we don't get a CL spot (still clinging on to that bit of hope), what forwards can we attract to Liverpool that will want to come. Assume we move on Balo and Borini so £20 million max!

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - Obviously the finances don't work like that, but Liverpool still have a firm interest in Ings and Vietto - plus Origi will be arriving.}


1.) 25 Apr 2015 14:00:52
I agree. Maybe i should not have put a figure in as such. With your contacts/opinion would you suggest which would be the better fit for Liverpool. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


2.) 25 Apr 2015 16:33:03
Ed do you no if Vietto will come or not without CL football?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


3.) 26 Apr 2015 01:16:54
no need to assume rover , we will be lucky to get 5th spot , BR and the players are half way to the beach , and we have switched off , its going to be Ings , why ? , he costs less .


 

 

11 Dec 2014 16:06:11
Ok, so we are 2 weeks to Christmas! Hard to believe i know but i want you all to spare a thought for other people maybe outside your family circle this Christmas.

Over here in Northern Ireland a local radio station (Cool fm) run a mission Christmas every year. Last year they had requests for 5000 gifts for kids of all ages and sex that would have had nothing to open on Christmas Day. An awful thought for any kid i'm sure you agree. This year they have requests for close to 7000 gifts. It tells me how many families are struggling these days and need a little bit of human kindness.

On doing a bit of research i can tell you that loads of other local radio stations run similar projects all over the UK. The Salvation Army also run a Christmas appeal.

So when you venture out to the town for a bit of seasonal cheer maybe you can spare a thought for those not so fortunate as ourselves. Boots do great 3 for 2 offers for older kids, Smyths toys also! That extra £20/30 will make a huge difference to some youngster this year. Please if you can, do your bit.

Thanks for reading.

The Irish Rover

{Ed001's Note - I will put this on all 3 main pages so it can be seen, great idea mate.}


1.) 11 Dec 2014 16:38:13
Nice one mate


2.) 11 Dec 2014 21:22:56
Who in gods name disagreed With this post ffs get a grip


3.) It's a great initiative and we have the same in Blackpool where the cash for kids charity runs mission christmas. We along with lots of local businesses act as drop of points for your extra gifts which are then delivered to main centres such as sainsburys in our area. All details on drop of points can be found on your local radio station.

All help is massively appreciated.

Cheers


4.) I normally disagree with most things you say on here Rover but spot on with this one.


5.) Hi it's Bauer media/cash4Kids in the UK. I spent some time with them last week sorting gifts to be sent to underprivileged children. Still time to donate
A premier league footballer turned up while we were there spending possibly 10 minutes doing f@@k all other than getting as much publicity as he could.


 

 

26 Jan 2014 12:33:03
Top of the morning Ed02.

A question if you don't mind. When a transfer goes tits up as it has done recently (mentioning no names), Ayre seems to come in for a bit of stick/abuse. Some posters basically claim he is a poor negotiator and very slow in getting deals tied up. In your opinion, would this be a fair assessment? Or is he trying to do the best job he can under the financial constraints he is put under?

I remember a while back you mentioning Liverpool putting in bids way below the asking price therefore not even getting the other team to negotiate. Would they have been better of advised not to go for such players and save themselves from the embarrassment or is there always a chance, therefore worth a go so to speak?

Lastly, leading from the first 2 questions. If Chelsea had not have swooped for Salah would Liverpool have got their man for the price they offered (A third of the asking price?). I appreciate its a bit of a loaded question and I fully understand if you don't want to answer this bit.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - In my opinion the posters know nothing of the situation at all and as the new type of fan lives only in a blame culture, Mr Ayre becomes the target in such situations. These are the same people who want, Jones, Gerrard, Moses, Allen, Henderson, Johnson, Cissokho, Enrique, Sterling, Agger, Skrtel, Kirikou, Coates, etc., etc. out. There will be a process that decides what sort of money the club will be willing to pay for a player on a case-by-case basis. If an offer is only a third or so of what the selling club are looking for they would typically not be interested in any negotiations as it would be seen as futile. There will also be financial constraints that will need to be adhered to. Aside from interest from Newcastle there was also a bid made by another side for Salah - Liverpool would certainly not have gotten him for the amount they were offering. It was clear that they would have needed to go to Basel with a much improved offer.}


1.) Ed do you think not signing Salah was the right thing to do or not? I'm a fan, I care nothing about money, just want to see my club grow better and better. So please tell me in monetary terms, could not signing Salah deemed a success?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the question means.}


2.) 26 Jan 2014 16:26:50
Wasn't our initial bid for Suarez something like £12.7 million? Only to be practically doubled within a week?
Ed02, any idea if this is true or am I making stuff up?

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall the numbers but it was something like that.}


3.) Krishna, you are asking a hypothetical question and only time will tell if Salah going to be the next Oscar or if he'll end up the next Torress .
The club (Our club) obviously thought he is very useful, that's why they initiated negotiation, the fact that they again failed to complete / close suggests there is a problem that the club need to address.


4.) Eds the question seems to ask whether the club are not prepared to negotiate due to their valuation on players being no where near the selling clubs or is it the fault of Ayre specifically as he is not skilled at negotiating? I hope most fans who use this site want to support the club and not spend their time slagging everyone off but u must understand these events become very public fails in the eyes of the fans and we want to understand why we lose out.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - The fans work in a 100% blame culture and have been shown repeatedly to blame the owners and Mr Ayre for another transfer window where eight £40M players failed to arrive.}


5.) It's seems strange all the same that we spent close to 3 months scouting him, he was earmarked to be a starting XI player and yet we wouldn't spend £11mil to get him. Keep in mind we've recently spent £10mil on Borini, £7mil on Aspas and £7mil on Alberto all to warm the bench.£11mil for a starter doesn't seem that much.


6.) Ed, I think the Salah situation does emphasise a problem in the way we pursue players. I accept that we do not have the money that many of our rivals seem to have, but we proved last January that there is a way to do well in January. In that window we went early and we went fast and landed both Coutinho and Sturridge. The issue highlighted in the summer with Mkhitaryan and to a lesser extent Willian, and now with Salah is that we wait too long and then start too low, thereby giving other teams the chance to react. It is even worse in this instance, as Chelsea would probably not have bid for Salah if we had gone for him on Jan 1st, as they would not have had Mata money ( or need to replace him). The fact that nothing happened ahead of the visit of Henry and Werner means we wasted our best chance of stealing a march on the competition. That would seem to have really cost us. This is the best chance in ages to crack the top 4, but it required us to be ready on Jan 1st and then to go quick and hard to get the players that BR deemed to be the ones to improve the first XI. I am not saying it is down to Ian Ayre, but I think collectively the senior team made a big mistake in delaying and then starting too low on our primary January target. From the outside it looks like we are a little naive as to how the market works these days. We don't have the pulling power we used to, so we have to be far smarter in how we go to market, and right now we are just making ourselves look a little daft as we constantly get beaten to players. The biggest concern is that Luis Suarez must be looking at this and going "this is the problem, no one wants to come and join me here!" Do you not think we need to re-think our approach somewhat to ensure we can bring in players who can improve our First XI as opposed to just attracting a plethora of squad players?

{Ed002's Note - The delay in the summer was largely due to Suarez. Liverpool were not in the same ballpark as Basel in terms of price for Salah.}


7.) No disrespect eds just another opinion. I would say the md of a company is pretty good place to start when things are done badly. After all the book stops at the top! In an earlier reply you suggested we had a committee which arye was part of. Let's check his credentials for being on that committee. He had little experience of signing players and doig deals and knows nothing about football. How on earth is he any where near it? Dempsey fiasco was a joke now salah! If we had of signed Dempsey for peanuts I might add he would now be a valued squad player sometimes starter. We need a winger to push on for top four how is it not worth going in at 11 mil? The book stops at the top and yet again the team will just miss out. Same old problems "this time next year". What a shambles. A window when we need decisive action to kick us on for a real possibility of success the chance goes begging. Not just on salah but the whole window. Mata to utd Chelsea sign three. Our main rivals with big squad already put u to shame

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not sign three players to replace Mata. So with your erroneous cliché about the "book" stopping at the top, perhaps you should go after the owners who are at the top. A nice little hate campaign to force them out and get Sheikh Al Thani or Sulaiman Al Fahim in?}


8.) I would say all the comments on this thread are generally questions with some sarcasm, frustration and clear lack of understanding at what goes on at MD level in a prem club and especially at LFC so eds002 please try and respond constructively to the debate rather than giving people short shrift.

Are u clear what happened in the Salah deal?

{Ed002's Note - Try not to be an idiot - I am perfectly clear what happened with Salah.}


9.) I didn't say Chelsea signed three to replace mata. I said many sign mata and Chelsea have also bought players. If we are to compete over a season with rivals such as these then we should be getting things done. Low balling for players highlights weakness at magement level not ownership! Ian arye is at the top of management and has a large portion of responsibility. Are you suggesting he doesn't? Our owners have spent millions already there the last in line. The management/ arye have responsibility for putting that money to good use and sign players not mess around until other clubs beat us to the chase.


10.) Why are you arguing with the eds you just come off looking like a pelican. If you don't like there opinion don't come to the site, no one is forcing you to.


11.) Rather than blame us for being too slow isn't it obvious that Chelsea let us, Spurs or another team do the negotiating, agree a fee and then they come in over the top and offer more at the last minute?
That is Chelsea's strategy. You can't blame the management at Pool or other teams for that!

{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand how any of this works.}


12.) Let's just stick to the point.We have a great chance of breaking back into the top 4, but we all see we need some help in doing this.Salah, who we scouted and apparently negotiated with Basel for didn't happen.Most of us would of liked to see him in a red shirt, and felt much better about our chance's if he had arrived.But as Chelsea got him for £11m, we are none to happy as to who and why We didn't get him.So we play the blame game, and Ayre is first on the list.


13.) 27 Jan 2014 18:12:38
Absolutely spot on niceaction


 

 

10 Jan 2014 21:59:42
Ed02. Have Napoli put a bid in for Agger. Has Agger turned it down? Thanks.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - I suspect that he will stay to the summer.}


 

 

02 Sep 2013 22:03:19
Excuse my ignorance, but did Borini go on loan or not? Was the deal completed? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - yes, he is at Sunderland for the season.}

The Irish Rover

1.) Good luck Borini, work your socks off and come back a better player. YNWA


2.) Think this was a bad move by Liverpool however, with the amount of abuse the lad was getting of his own fans it might be the best thing for him in the long run. You plastic fans ripping into a player who had about a month of actual football uninjured hang your heads in shame, some of the people who support us are an embarrassment. {Ed001's Note - that is the reason he was sent out on loan, too many boo boys on his back.}


3.) I like borini I think he works hard. Hopefully he does well and comes back


4.) If so then it might be very shrewd management, no point him staying here just to have his confidence destroyed.


5.) Borini makes some great runs - He is a very clever footballer who creates space for others.

He will get goals too - maybe not loads but he is a good finisher. Shame he has gone out on loan.

Shame all the fans who didn't see BR as the answer take their frustrations out on a young player who spent most of last season injured - Thought LFC fans were better than that!


6.) Football is all about different opinions. If everyone had the same we wouldn't have forums like this. I don't accept someone being given a 'plastic' or 'boo boy' tag just because they don't rate a particular player. When we pay £725 for a season ticket, and i'm in my 29th year as a season ticket holder, then we hold the right have an opinion even if its not popular. I'll always support the men in Red, through wind and rain. But I'm not so blinkered that I will claim greatness in every player. Borini, in my opinion, wasn't isn't and never will be, of the quality our team deserves. Of course, I wish him well and hope he is a success at Sunderland.


 

 

 

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12 May 2022 07:12:49
League over surely? Emphasis on the FA Cup this week and CL final, resting key players in between surely has to be the way now. Disappointing to lose Fabinho at this stage. We need to keep a clean bill of health for all our other players.

The Irish Rover

1.) 12 May 2022 08:57:19
Im still hoping Villa or West Ham can do something to be honest. Never say die and all that.


2.) 12 May 2022 09:02:06
To the last whistle. To the last minute. To the last second. We fight on!


3.) 12 May 2022 09:46:36
All for the positive but they have to drop points in both matches if we don't score like 10 goals.


4.) 12 May 2022 23:43:40
Hard to know what to think, yes win our remaining games definitely, but City will win the League, can't see them not, I am thinking only of our two Cup Finals, two huge games that will so much to every LFC fan .
I am very worried about Mo Salah tho, his numbers goals and assists have dropped really dropped, he is leading the goals and assists right now but Spurs have two easy games left and I expect both Son and Kane to pass Mo,
but its all about the cup finals, beat Chelsea and everything will look so much better .
COYR.


 

 

07 May 2022 16:32:27
In other news, what is a dead rubber for them at least, Aston Villa are winning 3-0.
So just maybe teams that have little to play for still show some dedication to their profession and aren't necessarily "on the beach"

Maybe a little bit of optimism for coming games.

The Irish Rover

1.) 07 May 2022 17:15:54
Spot on. If football matched always went exactly how they should have gone on paper then nobody would watch it. Good job the teams actually have to play the games and we don’t just hand all the trophies to the favourites at the start of the season!


2.) 07 May 2022 19:46:18
Irish aren’t we playing Villa next. Hopefully they are back on the beach.


 

 

25 Apr 2022 06:30:24
That Gordon penalty? Not in a million years. Watch again and see Matip's left is actually in the front of Gordon's shoulder. There is contact, its minimal. Never a penalty in my eyes, certainly not a push the ref and VAR came to the correct decision.

Anyway, very surprised by Everton's antics yesterday. What a prise prat Pickford is, winking in the first half etc. Came back to bite him in the arse. Everton won't win many games playing that type of football and it is points they need after all.

The Irish Rover

1.) 25 Apr 2022 06:50:28
We had 85% possession yesterday which is a new premier league record for a game.

To put it into perspective, Thiago completed 120 passes. Everton's whole team only completed 94.


2.) 25 Apr 2022 07:51:43
Still took us over an hour to score though @JK. It was just a God awful game.


3.) 25 Apr 2022 07:54:47
Ali’s p. take of Pickford was brilliant!

{Ed025's Note - even I smiled at that one mate..


4.) 25 Apr 2022 08:36:59
I read that Allan made two passes in the 73 minutes he was on the pitch. Yes, their central midfielder Allan made TWO passes in over an hour's play, and they were both from kick-offs 😂.


5.) 25 Apr 2022 10:23:23
Alisson's trolling possibly created as big a cheer as Divock's goal. The timing of it was just brilliant. Pickford deserved nothing less than that!


6.) 25 Apr 2022 11:33:37
WDW 100% agree mate but I know you already know this but you get the same points for an ugly win as you do a 5 star performance win.
Same as you get 1 goal if you score in the 61st minute or 61st second.

I’m taking the bad days with the good as long as we get them 3 points mate.


7.) 25 Apr 2022 12:32:40
Alli's shade-throwing is the stuff of legends. As for the pen situation with Matip, Gordon and Matip where hand/ arm-fighting before he went down. Contact? Yes BUT there is NO rule in football that a player cannot be contacted in the box. NONE whatsoever hence, contact btw two players does not equal penalty, IMO. The End.


 

 

20 Apr 2022 17:08:49
COME ON BRIGHTON!

The Irish Rover

{Ed0666's Note - Big ask without Bissouma but yes come on seagulls


1.) 20 Apr 2022 18:04:35
Agent lallana your mission is tonight good luck 😄.


2.) 20 Apr 2022 18:07:32
My master plan is to completely ignore the game as it's being played and then check for the result around 10:30pm.


3.) 20 Apr 2022 18:17:39
Something red that's a good plan, nothing worse than keeping an eye on it and it hiring the 65 or 70 min at 0-0 only for them to score 2 goals after that. Its the hope that kills you😁.


4.) 20 Apr 2022 17:18:49
Don't forget ed66 mate they've Adam Lallana 😜.

{Ed0666's Note - You had to say the friggin L word didn’t you mate!!!!


5.) 20 Apr 2022 17:18:49
Don't forget ed66 mate they've Adam Lallana 😜.


6.) 20 Apr 2022 21:14:58
Unfortunately the standard City 80 % possession against all teams other than Liverpool has given them the lead. I just don't see any team they play in the league holding out against them now. Its relentless.


7.) 20 Apr 2022 21:15:42
Didn't have to wait until the 60th or 70th minute It was the 53rd. Now let's hope they equalize.


8.) 20 Apr 2022 21:18:22
I think it’s game over now, City rarely lose at home when they go one up and Brighton haven’t laid a glove on them.


9.) 20 Apr 2022 22:08:33
IMO Only the wolves game can hurt City. Possibly Leeds if they’re somehow behind vs Madrid and in need to rest players.


10.) 20 Apr 2022 22:31:33
A couple of lucky deflected goals sorted them out. I’m ever hopeful but looking at their run in we may find trophies else where easier to get this year. CL stopping city’s dream would be an amazing return to start with….


11.) 21 Apr 2022 08:45:50
Ed666, there was no chance at all with Welbeck and Maupay up top for BHA. City were always going to win with Brighton being toothless up top.


 

 

11 Apr 2022 17:56:45
OK, so after just watching the game again I have to admit that Mane wasn't horrific at all, infact he certainly was one of our better players.

I'm going to blame it on the alcohol. 🤣👌.

The Irish Rover

{Ed025's Note - blame it on the boogie Irish 🤣


1.) 11 Apr 2022 18:24:06
Mane through the middle has become a good option for us. A decent headache for Klopp who to play upfront.


2.) 11 Apr 2022 18:40:42
I think Mane has something like 7 goals and 1 assist in his last 9 starts. Definitely not new contract form that.


3.) 11 Apr 2022 19:13:33
I can just picture you in your platform boots throwing shapes to that tune Ed025 mate😃.

{Ed025's Note - you know me too well Barry mate. 😎..


4.) 11 Apr 2022 19:52:53
Mane was awesome
Mane is awesome
Personally I’d be more gutted if he left rather than Salah.


 

 

 

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28 Apr 2022 18:45:02
Clearly Klopp has an affection for pit ponies, dead dogs, flat caps and smog.

Best news ever!

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14 Apr 2022 07:55:07
He'll be on the bench for me.

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11 Feb 2022 08:46:14
Liverpool seem to have a knack of getting 3rd and 4th choice forwards and them ending up not too bad 👍.

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03 Feb 2022 19:22:47
Something Red, a mate of mine used to do nets for Bray. Are you a fan?

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31 Jan 2022 16:35:57
He won't be "free" in the Summer. I would rather sort the deal out now and keep him out of the clasps of other teams.

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23 May 2022 08:27:10
Massively underperformed in the League? Seriously? Has to be one of the worst comments I've seen on this forum!
Massively unlucky or unfortunate even. The points this team has amassed and as you say taken the League twice to the last game and won the PL also. Klopp is a miracle worker when he is up against City's millions.

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22 May 2022 22:28:58
You are right JK. Modric is still playing at some level and completing 90 mins no problem. Kross also to a slightly lesser extent but its remarkable how they continue to churn out great performances at their age. Fair play.

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22 May 2022 22:25:10
I can see Fabinho making it, not Thiago unfortunately.

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22 May 2022 20:06:02
I thought Milner helped bring a composure to team team that it lacked in the first half.

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22 May 2022 18:25:04
Very positive Walter 😀👍.

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