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25 Apr 2015 12:21:25
Assuming we don't get a CL spot (still clinging on to that bit of hope), what forwards can we attract to Liverpool that will want to come. Assume we move on Balo and Borini so £20 million max!

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - Obviously the finances don't work like that, but Liverpool still have a firm interest in Ings and Vietto - plus Origi will be arriving.}


1.) 25 Apr 2015 14:00:52
I agree. Maybe i should not have put a figure in as such. With your contacts/opinion would you suggest which would be the better fit for Liverpool. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


2.) 25 Apr 2015 16:33:03
Ed do you no if Vietto will come or not without CL football?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


3.) 26 Apr 2015 01:16:54
no need to assume rover , we will be lucky to get 5th spot , BR and the players are half way to the beach , and we have switched off , its going to be Ings , why ? , he costs less .


 

 

11 Dec 2014 16:06:11
Ok, so we are 2 weeks to Christmas! Hard to believe i know but i want you all to spare a thought for other people maybe outside your family circle this Christmas.

Over here in Northern Ireland a local radio station (Cool fm) run a mission Christmas every year. Last year they had requests for 5000 gifts for kids of all ages and sex that would have had nothing to open on Christmas Day. An awful thought for any kid i'm sure you agree. This year they have requests for close to 7000 gifts. It tells me how many families are struggling these days and need a little bit of human kindness.

On doing a bit of research i can tell you that loads of other local radio stations run similar projects all over the UK. The Salvation Army also run a Christmas appeal.

So when you venture out to the town for a bit of seasonal cheer maybe you can spare a thought for those not so fortunate as ourselves. Boots do great 3 for 2 offers for older kids, Smyths toys also! That extra £20/30 will make a huge difference to some youngster this year. Please if you can, do your bit.

Thanks for reading.

The Irish Rover

{Ed001's Note - I will put this on all 3 main pages so it can be seen, great idea mate.}


1.) 11 Dec 2014 16:38:13
Nice one mate


2.) 11 Dec 2014 21:22:56
Who in gods name disagreed With this post ffs get a grip


3.) It's a great initiative and we have the same in Blackpool where the cash for kids charity runs mission christmas. We along with lots of local businesses act as drop of points for your extra gifts which are then delivered to main centres such as sainsburys in our area. All details on drop of points can be found on your local radio station.

All help is massively appreciated.

Cheers


4.) I normally disagree with most things you say on here Rover but spot on with this one.


5.) Hi it's Bauer media/cash4Kids in the UK. I spent some time with them last week sorting gifts to be sent to underprivileged children. Still time to donate
A premier league footballer turned up while we were there spending possibly 10 minutes doing f@@k all other than getting as much publicity as he could.


 

 

26 Jan 2014 12:33:03
Top of the morning Ed02.

A question if you don't mind. When a transfer goes tits up as it has done recently (mentioning no names), Ayre seems to come in for a bit of stick/abuse. Some posters basically claim he is a poor negotiator and very slow in getting deals tied up. In your opinion, would this be a fair assessment? Or is he trying to do the best job he can under the financial constraints he is put under?

I remember a while back you mentioning Liverpool putting in bids way below the asking price therefore not even getting the other team to negotiate. Would they have been better of advised not to go for such players and save themselves from the embarrassment or is there always a chance, therefore worth a go so to speak?

Lastly, leading from the first 2 questions. If Chelsea had not have swooped for Salah would Liverpool have got their man for the price they offered (A third of the asking price?). I appreciate its a bit of a loaded question and I fully understand if you don't want to answer this bit.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - In my opinion the posters know nothing of the situation at all and as the new type of fan lives only in a blame culture, Mr Ayre becomes the target in such situations. These are the same people who want, Jones, Gerrard, Moses, Allen, Henderson, Johnson, Cissokho, Enrique, Sterling, Agger, Skrtel, Kirikou, Coates, etc., etc. out. There will be a process that decides what sort of money the club will be willing to pay for a player on a case-by-case basis. If an offer is only a third or so of what the selling club are looking for they would typically not be interested in any negotiations as it would be seen as futile. There will also be financial constraints that will need to be adhered to. Aside from interest from Newcastle there was also a bid made by another side for Salah - Liverpool would certainly not have gotten him for the amount they were offering. It was clear that they would have needed to go to Basel with a much improved offer.}


1.) Ed do you think not signing Salah was the right thing to do or not? I'm a fan, I care nothing about money, just want to see my club grow better and better. So please tell me in monetary terms, could not signing Salah deemed a success?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the question means.}


2.) 26 Jan 2014 16:26:50
Wasn't our initial bid for Suarez something like £12.7 million? Only to be practically doubled within a week?
Ed02, any idea if this is true or am I making stuff up?

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall the numbers but it was something like that.}


3.) Krishna, you are asking a hypothetical question and only time will tell if Salah going to be the next Oscar or if he'll end up the next Torress .
The club (Our club) obviously thought he is very useful, that's why they initiated negotiation, the fact that they again failed to complete / close suggests there is a problem that the club need to address.


4.) Eds the question seems to ask whether the club are not prepared to negotiate due to their valuation on players being no where near the selling clubs or is it the fault of Ayre specifically as he is not skilled at negotiating? I hope most fans who use this site want to support the club and not spend their time slagging everyone off but u must understand these events become very public fails in the eyes of the fans and we want to understand why we lose out.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - The fans work in a 100% blame culture and have been shown repeatedly to blame the owners and Mr Ayre for another transfer window where eight £40M players failed to arrive.}


5.) It's seems strange all the same that we spent close to 3 months scouting him, he was earmarked to be a starting XI player and yet we wouldn't spend £11mil to get him. Keep in mind we've recently spent £10mil on Borini, £7mil on Aspas and £7mil on Alberto all to warm the bench.£11mil for a starter doesn't seem that much.


6.) Ed, I think the Salah situation does emphasise a problem in the way we pursue players. I accept that we do not have the money that many of our rivals seem to have, but we proved last January that there is a way to do well in January. In that window we went early and we went fast and landed both Coutinho and Sturridge. The issue highlighted in the summer with Mkhitaryan and to a lesser extent Willian, and now with Salah is that we wait too long and then start too low, thereby giving other teams the chance to react. It is even worse in this instance, as Chelsea would probably not have bid for Salah if we had gone for him on Jan 1st, as they would not have had Mata money ( or need to replace him). The fact that nothing happened ahead of the visit of Henry and Werner means we wasted our best chance of stealing a march on the competition. That would seem to have really cost us. This is the best chance in ages to crack the top 4, but it required us to be ready on Jan 1st and then to go quick and hard to get the players that BR deemed to be the ones to improve the first XI. I am not saying it is down to Ian Ayre, but I think collectively the senior team made a big mistake in delaying and then starting too low on our primary January target. From the outside it looks like we are a little naive as to how the market works these days. We don't have the pulling power we used to, so we have to be far smarter in how we go to market, and right now we are just making ourselves look a little daft as we constantly get beaten to players. The biggest concern is that Luis Suarez must be looking at this and going "this is the problem, no one wants to come and join me here!" Do you not think we need to re-think our approach somewhat to ensure we can bring in players who can improve our First XI as opposed to just attracting a plethora of squad players?

{Ed002's Note - The delay in the summer was largely due to Suarez. Liverpool were not in the same ballpark as Basel in terms of price for Salah.}


7.) No disrespect eds just another opinion. I would say the md of a company is pretty good place to start when things are done badly. After all the book stops at the top! In an earlier reply you suggested we had a committee which arye was part of. Let's check his credentials for being on that committee. He had little experience of signing players and doig deals and knows nothing about football. How on earth is he any where near it? Dempsey fiasco was a joke now salah! If we had of signed Dempsey for peanuts I might add he would now be a valued squad player sometimes starter. We need a winger to push on for top four how is it not worth going in at 11 mil? The book stops at the top and yet again the team will just miss out. Same old problems "this time next year". What a shambles. A window when we need decisive action to kick us on for a real possibility of success the chance goes begging. Not just on salah but the whole window. Mata to utd Chelsea sign three. Our main rivals with big squad already put u to shame

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not sign three players to replace Mata. So with your erroneous cliché about the "book" stopping at the top, perhaps you should go after the owners who are at the top. A nice little hate campaign to force them out and get Sheikh Al Thani or Sulaiman Al Fahim in?}


8.) I would say all the comments on this thread are generally questions with some sarcasm, frustration and clear lack of understanding at what goes on at MD level in a prem club and especially at LFC so eds002 please try and respond constructively to the debate rather than giving people short shrift.

Are u clear what happened in the Salah deal?

{Ed002's Note - Try not to be an idiot - I am perfectly clear what happened with Salah.}


9.) I didn't say Chelsea signed three to replace mata. I said many sign mata and Chelsea have also bought players. If we are to compete over a season with rivals such as these then we should be getting things done. Low balling for players highlights weakness at magement level not ownership! Ian arye is at the top of management and has a large portion of responsibility. Are you suggesting he doesn't? Our owners have spent millions already there the last in line. The management/ arye have responsibility for putting that money to good use and sign players not mess around until other clubs beat us to the chase.


10.) Why are you arguing with the eds you just come off looking like a pelican. If you don't like there opinion don't come to the site, no one is forcing you to.


11.) Rather than blame us for being too slow isn't it obvious that Chelsea let us, Spurs or another team do the negotiating, agree a fee and then they come in over the top and offer more at the last minute?
That is Chelsea's strategy. You can't blame the management at Pool or other teams for that!

{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand how any of this works.}


12.) Let's just stick to the point.We have a great chance of breaking back into the top 4, but we all see we need some help in doing this.Salah, who we scouted and apparently negotiated with Basel for didn't happen.Most of us would of liked to see him in a red shirt, and felt much better about our chance's if he had arrived.But as Chelsea got him for £11m, we are none to happy as to who and why We didn't get him.So we play the blame game, and Ayre is first on the list.


13.) 27 Jan 2014 18:12:38
Absolutely spot on niceaction


 

 

10 Jan 2014 21:59:42
Ed02. Have Napoli put a bid in for Agger. Has Agger turned it down? Thanks.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - I suspect that he will stay to the summer.}


 

 

02 Sep 2013 22:03:19
Excuse my ignorance, but did Borini go on loan or not? Was the deal completed? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - yes, he is at Sunderland for the season.}

The Irish Rover

1.) Good luck Borini, work your socks off and come back a better player. YNWA


2.) Think this was a bad move by Liverpool however, with the amount of abuse the lad was getting of his own fans it might be the best thing for him in the long run. You plastic fans ripping into a player who had about a month of actual football uninjured hang your heads in shame, some of the people who support us are an embarrassment. {Ed001's Note - that is the reason he was sent out on loan, too many boo boys on his back.}


3.) I like borini I think he works hard. Hopefully he does well and comes back


4.) If so then it might be very shrewd management, no point him staying here just to have his confidence destroyed.


5.) Borini makes some great runs - He is a very clever footballer who creates space for others.

He will get goals too - maybe not loads but he is a good finisher. Shame he has gone out on loan.

Shame all the fans who didn't see BR as the answer take their frustrations out on a young player who spent most of last season injured - Thought LFC fans were better than that!


6.) Football is all about different opinions. If everyone had the same we wouldn't have forums like this. I don't accept someone being given a 'plastic' or 'boo boy' tag just because they don't rate a particular player. When we pay £725 for a season ticket, and i'm in my 29th year as a season ticket holder, then we hold the right have an opinion even if its not popular. I'll always support the men in Red, through wind and rain. But I'm not so blinkered that I will claim greatness in every player. Borini, in my opinion, wasn't isn't and never will be, of the quality our team deserves. Of course, I wish him well and hope he is a success at Sunderland.


 

 

 

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21 Mar 2020 15:07:46
I have to say BT Sports are a disgrace in not making it easy for customers to suspend or cancel their subscription in light of being no live sports on their channels. Total joke, awful PR for such a company.

The Irish Rover

1.) 21 Mar 2020 22:16:00
Sly sports can be suspended for 3 months which means you still get it you just don't pay for it if you don't want to wait in an hour que ask to add to your package the answer in minutes 🤣🤣.


2.) 22 Mar 2020 06:59:18
Yeah, sky even made it possible to do online from
Friday which saves waiting on the phone for over an hour.


3.) 22 Mar 2020 10:04:04
Their website keeps having 'technical difficulties' if you try online. But if you call their automated line on 0800 151 2747 and say 'suspend sky sports' you can do it no troubles.
Hope you don't mind me putting a phone number on here Eds.

{Ed002's Note - No it is fine, thanks.}


 

 

14 Mar 2020 07:23:19
I appreciate Ed002's response on Liverpool not having "won" the Premier League so it would be null and void. I understand! Could the same not be said for the Champions League Places also? That bit seems confusing, seems like 2 different set of rules.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - You are not reading all of my posts. Will you be the same if the other clubs could be persuaded to support a case to give Liverpool the title anyway? Would Liverpool be humbled enough to change their ways if the other clubs they have screwed allowed it?}


1.) 14 Mar 2020 10:25:53
Mightve known coronarvirus would be our fault as well 😂.


2.) 14 Mar 2020 10:25:13
Ed002, would you be able to summarise how you feel the season is likely to end or should end? one pinned answer might help you having to respond constantly. If you don’t want to go into it though I completely understand.


3.) 14 Mar 2020 11:06:41
Great post Irish rover.


4.) 14 Mar 2020 12:01:22
This is what I was trying to ask yesterday if the European places are decided on current standings, Relegation cancelled which seems to be what is being talked about then why would a positive outcome have been found for 19 of the 20 teams apart from the one 25 points clear at the top. Makes zero sense, hopefully we get the league over the line but a lot of clubs will have differing agendas as we have seen with karren Brady this morning.


5.) 14 Mar 2020 12:24:40
No, I haven't read all the posts, to be honest there is a fair volume for obvious reasons.

No I wouldn't be the same if there was a case for Liverpool to be given the League because the same criteria would be applied to Liverpool as to teams that would gain entry to the CL or Europa League next season even tho they too hadn't "won" their spots.

Lastly, it seems from your last sentence that there might be some sort of vendetta against Liverpool due to their previous misdemeanors, which wouldn't make them much better.

Anyway, I guess it's a wait and see scenario for now. I appreciate the influx of questions you are probably having to answer. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - It is hardly a vendetta - it is a simple question regarding how would some of the sides abused and disrespected by Liverpool over the years would vote in this matter and could it cause Liverpool to change their ways?}


6.) 14 Mar 2020 12:33:00
Brady is a disgrace if west ham was not firmly embroiled in relegation would she be talking such crap
Seems a lot of silly people have agendas and I’m not just talking about those who are talking about Liverpool.


7.) 14 Mar 2020 12:39:11
So are we still champions of Europe then also?


8.) 14 Mar 2020 13:49:56
Yes, as city are champions of England until some else wins them, 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️.


9.) 14 Mar 2020 10:39:11
Ah everything else is jezza, might as well add this to the list as well lol but what do we expect, utd, Chelsea etc fans don't like us because we're back on our perch, sucks to be them I suppose mate :) . We can only sit here and laugh because this year's title will be ours.


10.) 14 Mar 2020 22:00:46
I think it's a really good point. If Chelsea and Leicester are awarded cl places then Liverpool should be given the league and the bottom three relegated. It doesn't seem right to give one rule for some and one rule for others.

And if city are league champs going into next season then we're surely European champs.

At least we didn't spend a fortune in the summer.


 

 

17 Feb 2020 08:02:45
Rest in Peace Harry Gregg. The Hero of Munich, a Northern Ireland footballing legend.

The Irish Rover

1.) 17 Feb 2020 09:17:59
Well said. RIP Mr Gregg.


2.) 17 Feb 2020 11:01:06
RIP Harry Gregg.


3.) 17 Feb 2020 22:34:48
I learned a lot about Mr Gregg today and it was very moving.
RIP indeed.


 

 

07 Nov 2019 16:09:17
So Sean Cox makes a return to Anfield this weekend. Now that is a reason to put in a top performance. I'm sure the fans will give him a great reception. 👍.

The Irish Rover

1.) 07 Nov 2019 16:46:40
Well said mate, I wish him all the best.


2.) 07 Nov 2019 18:55:54
Excellent news made up for him.


3.) 07 Nov 2019 19:20:08
Awesome stuff. I hope he gets a rousing reception when/ if his name is announced. That will just give the crowd even more impetus to give the City players hell on the pitch. For those going to the game, make Anfield as partisan as it was vs Barca. Each time City have the ball, boo the life out of them. Make it loud when we attack and louder when they have the ball (or was it vice-versa) . Come on, You Redmen!


4.) 08 Nov 2019 09:40:37
He’ll get a real special welcome.


5.) 08 Nov 2019 22:49:59
Made me smile when I heard he will be at anfield. Such a horrible situation he's faced but so warming to see the love he's received from the whole club, klopp, players, fans all keeping him in our thoughts throughout the last 18 months of his battle. The special relationship forged between LFC and Sean Cox has shown the beatiful side of football at a time where the modern game is growing uglier by the day.

I really hope he has a special day and feels the genuine love from every red man women and child within anfield.


 

 

01 Sep 2019 02:13:44
I would love to dedicate todays win to Berg and his family. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't mean a great deal but I hope he knows how much we are thinking of him. So as much I'm not really fussed on the thumbs up (or down), I hope that we can all press that button to show how much we care and in the times of need we are truely one big family.

The Irish Rover

1.) 01 Sep 2019 08:40:17
A big thumbs up to you Rover. YNWA Berg.


2.) 01 Sep 2019 09:30:58
Thanks you everyone logan would love that 👍 🌟.


 

 

 

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28 Mar 2020 14:16:03
From what I have read (Imperial College) . This Social distancing stuff will need to kept up for approx 18 months until a vaccine is good to go. Only during that time when the virus is "under control" that we can go about our daily routine, approx two thirds of the time will be actually social distancing. Under those circumstances I can't see how even next seasons PL or any other sport can be considered.

The Irish Rover

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22 Mar 2020 21:45:23
I thought Rodri was Fernandinho's long term replacement?

The Irish Rover

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17 Mar 2020 21:21:30
I would go back to WW2, to experience the trials and tribulations, the effort, togetherness, camaraderie and the down right desire not to be beaten. Just to see when the chips are down and your backs against the wall how people used to pull for each other.

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26 Feb 2020 13:15:01
Pedro isn't even cover for Fabinho really. He plays the odd cup game, that's it. I'm not saying he isn't a decent player but he needs to play more than a few games. Sell him and watch him flourish for another club. Who knows, maybe he might return at some stage if he proves himself and Liverpool need his type of talent.

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28 Nov 2019 18:40:48
^^^^^^^^
Is Harry back?

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06 Apr 2020 17:34:08
I see no issue at all in the club putting its hands up and admitting it's made a mistake and rectifying their error.

Look in the mirror before you look out the window, is a motto we can all use.

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04 Apr 2020 18:09:16
Nobody has been sacked or paid off. They are getting paid 100% of the wages. I'm sure from an employee point of view the most important thing is what goes into their account each month to pay their mortgage and Bills and not who is paying it.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - The point is that they are taking Government money on the basis of not knowing what their financial obligations will eb going forward. They really don't need to do taht. But at least the large number of Liverpool fans calling out the others sides who have done this should now be suitably embarrassed.}


 

 

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04 Apr 2020 17:41:30
I agree Rome 1977 but how many mindless morons are there? I guess you can't take that chance.

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04 Apr 2020 17:37:47
From a business point of view it makes complete sense. The staff receive 80% from the Government and topped up (20%) by the club. What is the issue?

The Irish Rover

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02 Apr 2020 20:12:36
Not sure Something Red! Does their league not split at some stage with more games to play?

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