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25 Apr 2015 12:21:25
Assuming we don't get a CL spot (still clinging on to that bit of hope), what forwards can we attract to Liverpool that will want to come. Assume we move on Balo and Borini so £20 million max!

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - Obviously the finances don't work like that, but Liverpool still have a firm interest in Ings and Vietto - plus Origi will be arriving.}


1.) 25 Apr 2015 14:00:52
I agree. Maybe i should not have put a figure in as such. With your contacts/opinion would you suggest which would be the better fit for Liverpool. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


2.) 25 Apr 2015 16:33:03
Ed do you no if Vietto will come or not without CL football?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


3.) 26 Apr 2015 01:16:54
no need to assume rover , we will be lucky to get 5th spot , BR and the players are half way to the beach , and we have switched off , its going to be Ings , why ? , he costs less .


 

 

11 Dec 2014 16:06:11
Ok, so we are 2 weeks to Christmas! Hard to believe i know but i want you all to spare a thought for other people maybe outside your family circle this Christmas.

Over here in Northern Ireland a local radio station (Cool fm) run a mission Christmas every year. Last year they had requests for 5000 gifts for kids of all ages and sex that would have had nothing to open on Christmas Day. An awful thought for any kid i'm sure you agree. This year they have requests for close to 7000 gifts. It tells me how many families are struggling these days and need a little bit of human kindness.

On doing a bit of research i can tell you that loads of other local radio stations run similar projects all over the UK. The Salvation Army also run a Christmas appeal.

So when you venture out to the town for a bit of seasonal cheer maybe you can spare a thought for those not so fortunate as ourselves. Boots do great 3 for 2 offers for older kids, Smyths toys also! That extra £20/30 will make a huge difference to some youngster this year. Please if you can, do your bit.

Thanks for reading.

The Irish Rover

{Ed001's Note - I will put this on all 3 main pages so it can be seen, great idea mate.}


1.) 11 Dec 2014 16:38:13
Nice one mate


2.) 11 Dec 2014 21:22:56
Who in gods name disagreed With this post ffs get a grip


3.) It's a great initiative and we have the same in Blackpool where the cash for kids charity runs mission christmas. We along with lots of local businesses act as drop of points for your extra gifts which are then delivered to main centres such as sainsburys in our area. All details on drop of points can be found on your local radio station.

All help is massively appreciated.

Cheers


4.) I normally disagree with most things you say on here Rover but spot on with this one.


5.) Hi it's Bauer media/cash4Kids in the UK. I spent some time with them last week sorting gifts to be sent to underprivileged children. Still time to donate
A premier league footballer turned up while we were there spending possibly 10 minutes doing f@@k all other than getting as much publicity as he could.


 

 

26 Jan 2014 12:33:03
Top of the morning Ed02.

A question if you don't mind. When a transfer goes tits up as it has done recently (mentioning no names), Ayre seems to come in for a bit of stick/abuse. Some posters basically claim he is a poor negotiator and very slow in getting deals tied up. In your opinion, would this be a fair assessment? Or is he trying to do the best job he can under the financial constraints he is put under?

I remember a while back you mentioning Liverpool putting in bids way below the asking price therefore not even getting the other team to negotiate. Would they have been better of advised not to go for such players and save themselves from the embarrassment or is there always a chance, therefore worth a go so to speak?

Lastly, leading from the first 2 questions. If Chelsea had not have swooped for Salah would Liverpool have got their man for the price they offered (A third of the asking price?). I appreciate its a bit of a loaded question and I fully understand if you don't want to answer this bit.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - In my opinion the posters know nothing of the situation at all and as the new type of fan lives only in a blame culture, Mr Ayre becomes the target in such situations. These are the same people who want, Jones, Gerrard, Moses, Allen, Henderson, Johnson, Cissokho, Enrique, Sterling, Agger, Skrtel, Kirikou, Coates, etc., etc. out. There will be a process that decides what sort of money the club will be willing to pay for a player on a case-by-case basis. If an offer is only a third or so of what the selling club are looking for they would typically not be interested in any negotiations as it would be seen as futile. There will also be financial constraints that will need to be adhered to. Aside from interest from Newcastle there was also a bid made by another side for Salah - Liverpool would certainly not have gotten him for the amount they were offering. It was clear that they would have needed to go to Basel with a much improved offer.}


1.) Ed do you think not signing Salah was the right thing to do or not? I'm a fan, I care nothing about money, just want to see my club grow better and better. So please tell me in monetary terms, could not signing Salah deemed a success?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the question means.}


2.) 26 Jan 2014 16:26:50
Wasn't our initial bid for Suarez something like £12.7 million? Only to be practically doubled within a week?
Ed02, any idea if this is true or am I making stuff up?

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall the numbers but it was something like that.}


3.) Krishna, you are asking a hypothetical question and only time will tell if Salah going to be the next Oscar or if he'll end up the next Torress .
The club (Our club) obviously thought he is very useful, that's why they initiated negotiation, the fact that they again failed to complete / close suggests there is a problem that the club need to address.


4.) Eds the question seems to ask whether the club are not prepared to negotiate due to their valuation on players being no where near the selling clubs or is it the fault of Ayre specifically as he is not skilled at negotiating? I hope most fans who use this site want to support the club and not spend their time slagging everyone off but u must understand these events become very public fails in the eyes of the fans and we want to understand why we lose out.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - The fans work in a 100% blame culture and have been shown repeatedly to blame the owners and Mr Ayre for another transfer window where eight £40M players failed to arrive.}


5.) It's seems strange all the same that we spent close to 3 months scouting him, he was earmarked to be a starting XI player and yet we wouldn't spend £11mil to get him. Keep in mind we've recently spent £10mil on Borini, £7mil on Aspas and £7mil on Alberto all to warm the bench.£11mil for a starter doesn't seem that much.


6.) Ed, I think the Salah situation does emphasise a problem in the way we pursue players. I accept that we do not have the money that many of our rivals seem to have, but we proved last January that there is a way to do well in January. In that window we went early and we went fast and landed both Coutinho and Sturridge. The issue highlighted in the summer with Mkhitaryan and to a lesser extent Willian, and now with Salah is that we wait too long and then start too low, thereby giving other teams the chance to react. It is even worse in this instance, as Chelsea would probably not have bid for Salah if we had gone for him on Jan 1st, as they would not have had Mata money ( or need to replace him). The fact that nothing happened ahead of the visit of Henry and Werner means we wasted our best chance of stealing a march on the competition. That would seem to have really cost us. This is the best chance in ages to crack the top 4, but it required us to be ready on Jan 1st and then to go quick and hard to get the players that BR deemed to be the ones to improve the first XI. I am not saying it is down to Ian Ayre, but I think collectively the senior team made a big mistake in delaying and then starting too low on our primary January target. From the outside it looks like we are a little naive as to how the market works these days. We don't have the pulling power we used to, so we have to be far smarter in how we go to market, and right now we are just making ourselves look a little daft as we constantly get beaten to players. The biggest concern is that Luis Suarez must be looking at this and going "this is the problem, no one wants to come and join me here!" Do you not think we need to re-think our approach somewhat to ensure we can bring in players who can improve our First XI as opposed to just attracting a plethora of squad players?

{Ed002's Note - The delay in the summer was largely due to Suarez. Liverpool were not in the same ballpark as Basel in terms of price for Salah.}


7.) No disrespect eds just another opinion. I would say the md of a company is pretty good place to start when things are done badly. After all the book stops at the top! In an earlier reply you suggested we had a committee which arye was part of. Let's check his credentials for being on that committee. He had little experience of signing players and doig deals and knows nothing about football. How on earth is he any where near it? Dempsey fiasco was a joke now salah! If we had of signed Dempsey for peanuts I might add he would now be a valued squad player sometimes starter. We need a winger to push on for top four how is it not worth going in at 11 mil? The book stops at the top and yet again the team will just miss out. Same old problems "this time next year". What a shambles. A window when we need decisive action to kick us on for a real possibility of success the chance goes begging. Not just on salah but the whole window. Mata to utd Chelsea sign three. Our main rivals with big squad already put u to shame

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not sign three players to replace Mata. So with your erroneous cliché about the "book" stopping at the top, perhaps you should go after the owners who are at the top. A nice little hate campaign to force them out and get Sheikh Al Thani or Sulaiman Al Fahim in?}


8.) I would say all the comments on this thread are generally questions with some sarcasm, frustration and clear lack of understanding at what goes on at MD level in a prem club and especially at LFC so eds002 please try and respond constructively to the debate rather than giving people short shrift.

Are u clear what happened in the Salah deal?

{Ed002's Note - Try not to be an idiot - I am perfectly clear what happened with Salah.}


9.) I didn't say Chelsea signed three to replace mata. I said many sign mata and Chelsea have also bought players. If we are to compete over a season with rivals such as these then we should be getting things done. Low balling for players highlights weakness at magement level not ownership! Ian arye is at the top of management and has a large portion of responsibility. Are you suggesting he doesn't? Our owners have spent millions already there the last in line. The management/ arye have responsibility for putting that money to good use and sign players not mess around until other clubs beat us to the chase.


10.) Why are you arguing with the eds you just come off looking like a pelican. If you don't like there opinion don't come to the site, no one is forcing you to.


11.) Rather than blame us for being too slow isn't it obvious that Chelsea let us, Spurs or another team do the negotiating, agree a fee and then they come in over the top and offer more at the last minute?
That is Chelsea's strategy. You can't blame the management at Pool or other teams for that!

{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand how any of this works.}


12.) Let's just stick to the point.We have a great chance of breaking back into the top 4, but we all see we need some help in doing this.Salah, who we scouted and apparently negotiated with Basel for didn't happen.Most of us would of liked to see him in a red shirt, and felt much better about our chance's if he had arrived.But as Chelsea got him for £11m, we are none to happy as to who and why We didn't get him.So we play the blame game, and Ayre is first on the list.


13.) 27 Jan 2014 18:12:38
Absolutely spot on niceaction


 

 

10 Jan 2014 21:59:42
Ed02. Have Napoli put a bid in for Agger. Has Agger turned it down? Thanks.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - I suspect that he will stay to the summer.}


 

 

02 Sep 2013 22:03:19
Excuse my ignorance, but did Borini go on loan or not? Was the deal completed? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - yes, he is at Sunderland for the season.}

The Irish Rover

1.) Good luck Borini, work your socks off and come back a better player. YNWA


2.) Think this was a bad move by Liverpool however, with the amount of abuse the lad was getting of his own fans it might be the best thing for him in the long run. You plastic fans ripping into a player who had about a month of actual football uninjured hang your heads in shame, some of the people who support us are an embarrassment. {Ed001's Note - that is the reason he was sent out on loan, too many boo boys on his back.}


3.) I like borini I think he works hard. Hopefully he does well and comes back


4.) If so then it might be very shrewd management, no point him staying here just to have his confidence destroyed.


5.) Borini makes some great runs - He is a very clever footballer who creates space for others.

He will get goals too - maybe not loads but he is a good finisher. Shame he has gone out on loan.

Shame all the fans who didn't see BR as the answer take their frustrations out on a young player who spent most of last season injured - Thought LFC fans were better than that!


6.) Football is all about different opinions. If everyone had the same we wouldn't have forums like this. I don't accept someone being given a 'plastic' or 'boo boy' tag just because they don't rate a particular player. When we pay £725 for a season ticket, and i'm in my 29th year as a season ticket holder, then we hold the right have an opinion even if its not popular. I'll always support the men in Red, through wind and rain. But I'm not so blinkered that I will claim greatness in every player. Borini, in my opinion, wasn't isn't and never will be, of the quality our team deserves. Of course, I wish him well and hope he is a success at Sunderland.


 

 

 

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20 Apr 2021 10:18:15
From what I have read in the past, a Super League or whatever else you want to call it is going to happen. Maybe not this badly timed PR disaster but we have all seen Ed002s posts on what will happen in the future which the "elite" 21 clubs discuss maybe a couple of times a year.
So even if this Super League doesn't kick off, we are only just kicking the can down the road.
Also the "elite" 21 groups idea seems to be moving completely from their prospective leagues, maybe a two tier league eventually but still a closed shop.
I don't agree with any of it at all but you have to fear that even if we win this battle, we won't win the war!
Would Liverpool fans be happy in the future to be stuck in a Premier League while some of the top English Clubs and all the top clubs in Europe play in an Elite League?

The Irish Rover

1.) 20 Apr 2021 10:25:24
IR, this whole Super League notion is not new. In fact if my memory serves me well, they have been talking about this since 1998 so it was only a matter of time till this became reality cos the big clubs wanted the very same things back then, that they want now (more money, power, influence etc) . Will it happen? Probably BUT I fully agree that it won't be for right now.


2.) 20 Apr 2021 10:29:24
We missed the gravy train in 92 with moores and Perry it’s takin 30Years to catch up! Football is changing we either get with it and don’t!
There is no values in football no more it’s a massive global business no matter what fans or people think!
Neville and Carra are getting plenty of air time because sky them selves aren’t getting a look in and will be down millions!
What I’m reading is these clubs want their power back from uefa or fifa!
It’s not a closed league as Perez has said I think when then plans are fully laid out more people will Come around!
I know the owners are greedy parasites but football changed back in 1992 when the big money came in!
We either get with it or be left behind like last time!
Like Ed said won’t be long before a player is on 1m a Wk and only the top teams will be paying that!
If we want to be up there this is how it goes unfortunately!
Sorry for the rant!


3.) 20 Apr 2021 10:34:34
We are not making a jump to a platform where others are joining rather we are acting as the orchestrators for building the platform. Even if others make the jump, I hope that we never do it. Football as we know could come to an end if this materialises.


4.) 20 Apr 2021 10:37:07
Yes i would be.


5.) 20 Apr 2021 10:37:41
The core principle here that stinks is the anti-competitive nature of what has been proposed.

Remove the 'security' of the 'Founding 15' and the ESL is no better or worse than any of the other proposed changes to the UCL.


6.) 20 Apr 2021 11:30:38
The thing is, American sports, especially their football, is extremely popular and very keenly contested, and there’s no relegation in that.
What competitive integrity is lost by that is made up through the players draft system.
Meaning that there’s much less ongoing domination by one team.


7.) 20 Apr 2021 14:00:44
Juicer - you're spot on. But the challenge here is understanding that.


8.) 20 Apr 2021 13:12:15
Juicer, I don’t think that system would work in a sport that was built on a completely different premise. The nba, nfl evolved into what it is today and remains very popular in North America, they aren’t exactly globalised sports even if they’re broadcasted globally, where are the popular nba or nfl teams from abroad? There are none that anyone cares about anyway. Maybe that’s based on their geography but the structure of their sports is also what the problem is. British sports have always been based on a different premise and they’re much more globalised and I think cricket and football are both more popular than any American sport.

Essentially, I’ll liken this to many of the foreign things the Americans end up tainting. For example, they take a film or a show from a foreign country that was extremely popular, they make their own version of it, and it ends up being a complete and utter flop, I haven’t seen an example of it working out yet. You won’t be able to Americanise football, especially when the sentiments the fans have vanish once liverpool isn’t based in liverpool anymore and we end up playing loads of our ‘home’ games in the states or China. Anfield won’t even be a factor anymore.


9.) 20 Apr 2021 13:17:21
The Juicer - American sports are popular primarily in the US with pockets of fans outside. The reason for their relative financial success is that America is an enormous country and a financial behemoth, not because of the way they govern their leagues. No American sport can even dream of comparing to the global following of football - a sport played in every country across the world.
The no-relegation idea is a non-starter.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 18:25:57
Ed002, can you remind me how many "elite" clubs there are and how many of the 12 are in the "elite" group? Cheers.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - 21 and 10 (although some clubs could still back down from the proposal).


 

 

19 Apr 2021 07:02:39
Thanks Ed002 for the information as tough to take in as it may be for a lot of fans.

Please remember Ed002 doesn't create this scenario. He merely supplies us with the facts and maybe his opinion, which we are all entitled too. This page would be 50% without the input he gives. Please be respectful with your replies.

Have a great week! 👍👍.

The Irish Rover

1.) 19 Apr 2021 10:16:44
Spot on Irish. Ed002 deserves he utmost respect for telling us what he knows, explaining it clearly and being absolutely honest about it. He’s been telling us this was on the cards for years and years (RTFP! ) . So let’s not be surprised and don’t abuse Ed (or any of the Ed’s for that matter) about this.


 

 

15 Apr 2021 06:58:24
I can't fault the effort from the team. In the main we played very well and created plenty of not just chances but really good chance.
Firmino was a bit anonymous first half but was better second. Mane looked a lot better also.
I guess that game just highlights a real part of our problem this season, not just injuries but also unable to put away chances. We could have been going in level on aggregate at half time.
Anyway, suck it up and move on. In any other year we would look at our remaining PL games with favour. Top 4 is a must, if we don't the team have no one to blame but themselves.

The Irish Rover

1.) 15 Apr 2021 07:22:09
Spot on, IR. I knew if we got eliminated, it would be a case of what might as been. The poor first leg perf did us in, for sure and oval sure Klopp is livid with himself and the team for such a poor performance. We have to learn from this cos the lessons are there to be learnt.

As for the game itself, I thought we are good for the first 75 minutes and then, our legs went. Had Salah scored in the first 90 seconds, who knows? We love on.


2.) 15 Apr 2021 07:37:38
we needed two goals and Klopp started both wijnaldum and Milner and only God knows why. Madrid came to sit back and hot us on the counter and succeeded well. simples. What did we learn that we did not in the previous years, that when salah doesn't score we don't have goals and the ones on the bench are simply not good enough?


3.) 15 Apr 2021 10:17:35
He started Milner for his drive and leadership. Something that was massively lacking in the first leg.


4.) 15 Apr 2021 11:22:15
I thought mane lacked effort and desire in parts. In the second half for one of our corners he walked into the box and didn’t even make it for the kick. I generally think we need a striker coach because we couldn’t hit a barn door at the min.


 

 

10 Mar 2021 07:16:11
Bobby Firmino still only 29. If he were to be sold, where would he go? Who would be the suitors for such a niche player and realistically how much would we get? If his value isn't that high are we better of keeping? A better sub than we have at the minute?

The Irish Rover

1.) 10 Mar 2021 07:34:42
Think he will stay. If there is a potential buyer, the price will be around 25 million euros max. We are better of keeping him for another season as a replacement would cost way more. Means either Mane or Salah would need to be sold if the club is intending on making major changes to our forward line (needs to happen sooner rather than later) .
Ideally we sell Mane for 75 million and sign a younger LW and a forward using the money.

{Ed077's Note - who would you bring in with that money from Mane sale IB? realistically}


2.) 10 Mar 2021 08:25:46
Eds77 the front line need freshening up and I know we have jota but it still needs younger players coming in. Am sure in this big wide world a club like Liverpool can find a player who can score more than 6 in 27 like bobby. We also need to replace origi who offers zero every time he plays.

{Ed077's Note - the issue with your frontline is that all of them are of similar age. Maybe it would be wise to sell Origi and Mane (or Salah), replace them in the first 11 with Jota and sign someone like Ismaila Sarr or Raphinha or someone like them to cover the wings and a younger striker to rotate and gradually replace Bobby?}


3.) 10 Mar 2021 08:50:45
IB and Longthing76, BUT can that striker do all the other things that Bobbie does? That is the real question except you think Klopp should change the whole system to fit this new player you are talking about. Scoring goals as a CF is not that important in a Klopp system cos if it was, Bobbie would have been sold years ago. Should we get people in to help him take the load off cos he plays too many games? Sure, I'm all for that BUT Klopp may not want to replace Bobbie like for like cos of the other stuff he brings to the table.

Also, remember that when Bobbie plays well, Liverpool play well cos when the whole team presses and squeezes the oppo., he has the support from midfield hence, does not need to drop as deep as he is doing now. That is not happening hence, one of the main reasons he is struggling, IMO.

Gab Jesus scores goals for City (also misses way too many) YET he is nowhere near the quality of Bobbie as a footballer or even as a CF cos he is Bobbie's deputy in the Brazil team. Just my opinion.

{Ed077's Note - Klopp has enjoyed success with Lewandowski and Aubameyang leading the line for his teams so I am sure if LFC signed one Klopp can fit them in; Klopp isnt a one trick pony.}


4.) 10 Mar 2021 08:54:36
Maybe the answer is to push Firmino back into midfield, sans Ray Kennedy? Firmino apparently started his career as a defensive midfielder and he’s certainly got the skill set to play in midfield. As for Sarr, I’m far from convinced that he’s worth spunking a huge transfer fee on, his end product is inconsistent and he’s hardly set the world alight in the championship, plus the Watford owner literally hates our owners, so I can’t see any kind of deal materialising.

{Ed077's Note - Sarr was just a name off the top of my heed but LFC and Klopp have shown interest in him in the past.}


5.) 10 Mar 2021 09:04:12
I think before we try replace anyone we wait and see what jota does now till the end of the season to ensure it wasn't just momentum at the start of the season and if he proves good enough to replace one of our front 3 then we consider some change

Factors will be where does he play his best football and who does he play it better than

Harvey Elliot and Minamino are on loan we need to track there progress and decide if another loan (Elliot) or sale of minamino is needed or are they good enough to be in the squad and if so will klopp actually use them

There in a 3 week break after this match for us so I'm hoping we get some form back after that and get a better indication of what and who we need to change.


6.) 10 Mar 2021 09:17:02
All the things Bobby does? One fancy flick per match and miss about ten sitters with his two left feet? I don't get the Bobby love. Two years ago when we were fresh yes but now no he's bang average at best.


7.) 10 Mar 2021 09:22:53
Fair point Ed. I hope we’ll have moved on from Sarr.

{Ed077's Note - Maybe a Raphinha or Neto or even Saka?}


8.) 10 Mar 2021 10:10:03
Personally Ed077, i would sell Mane, Origi, Taki and Shaq (hopefully get 100 mil for the 4 combined) and use the money to buy a ST (Andre Silva maybe) and a LW (Neto, Luis Diaz, Thuram, Ocampos) while giving Elliot a chance as well. Bobby can stay as a creative player rather than as a forward before being moved on in 2022.


9.) 10 Mar 2021 10:15:45
Salah is our most valuable asset. If we sold Salah and brought in Raphina, Neto or Saka as a replacement then I would be bitterly disappointed. All talented individuals but not prolific in terms of goals. I would love Haaland but highly unlikely and what Ed1 said below means it could be risky. Then again and correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t Mane meant to be difficult prior to joining but since he arrived has given us no issues. Mbappe is a non starter for a number of reasons, one being the glaring obvious and that’s transfer fee and not to mentioned breaking the wage structure.

Ed77, you’re right in stating they are all similar age and value will start to drop considerably in a few years. I would happily escort Origi out the door but Mane it would hurt to see leave but maybe it’s for the greater good to generate funds to plan for the future.


10.) 10 Mar 2021 10:29:03
Maybe Jota can already replace Salahs goals?

{Ed077's Note - thats a big ask for anyone. Hasnt Salah been the top scorer in the league twice in 3 seasons and again top of the scoring charts this season? Just 1 player might not be enough to replace the number of goals Salah has scored season in season out.}


11.) 10 Mar 2021 10:46:40
I wouldn't trust Firmino in midfield. Too slow and lightweight.


12.) 10 Mar 2021 11:25:33
Mane would fetch 90 million + surely? His sale alone would fund moves for Raphina and Daka.
Origi, Shaq, Wilson sales would pay for Bissouma.
Matip, Keita/ Ox, plus gini’s wage cover part of a new CB.
Then I’d want us to dip into our pockets and get another CB.
2 CB’s (DCC, Botman, Schurrs, Konate, Kounde)
1 CM (maybe 2) (Bissouma + De Paul, Barella, Neuhaus)
1 winger (Raphina)
1 striker (Daka)

{Ed002's Note - Raphinha (RW) Leeds are expecting offers in the summer and want Michael Olise or Emiliano Buendia to replace him should a significant offer be accepted. I am not aware of any approach or declaration of interest from Liverpool at this time but the suspicion is that Manchester United have discussed him whilst enquiring after another player with his agent.

Patson Daka (S) the player signed a new contract at RBS last season when he was assured of the chance to replace Haaland - a chance he has taken very well under Jesse Marsch. RBL could be interested in taking him in the future but the timing is not right now as RBS have no intention of selling. He is a player who would depart for AFCON which puts many clubs off. His agent and his assistant (Freddie Kanoute) have offered him around without the permission of RBS - this will be driven by the far higher wages offered elsewhere and certainly Lomdon-based clubs have been approached including Crystal Palace who have previously made an offer for him and Spurs. I suspect West Ham and Arsenal will also have been approached.}


13.) 10 Mar 2021 12:03:10
Honestly don’t get the clamour to sell Salah over Mane. Salah is a 20 a season player, they’re not easy to replace and it’s hardly like there are goals in the rest of the team. Mane should be the player sacrificed, end of story, he’s not been at it this year and yet Salah is still scoring in a struggling side.

{Ed0666's Note - to be fair Salah does take the pens as well so that’s really helpful but I’m with you mane is the one we need to cash in on as I’m not sure he wants to be here anymore.


14.) 10 Mar 2021 12:59:38
Ed666, I would rather sell Mane than Salah. When you say you don’t think he wants to be here anymore, what makes you say that? Has he informed the club, rumblings, agent is actively seeking a move?

{Ed0666's Note - it’s no secret that Madrid have come in for mane once if not twice while he’s been a Liverpool player and the player wanted the move but Liverpool rejected it. I know he was pissed at the time but buckled down and produced scintillating performances thereafter. But in my opinion he’s not the mane he was and it’s evident in his demeanor. You’re telling me the guy is trying hard this season? I know players are generally are exerting less energy purposely as to not get injured but I exert more energy in the shower than mane does on the pitch. His body language is chalk and Cheese to what it was last season. Don’t get me wrong on his day he’s unplayable but when he’s like this average full backs can deal with him. This is gonna sound controversial but I don’t think him and salah can work in tandem anymore. So many of their passes to each other are woeful they cannot seem to put each other in for a goal scoring chance which wasn’t the case two or so seasons ago, they were finding each other with unnerving regularity which certainly isn’t the case now. Jota may not be mane quality but at least he puts in a shift and scores goals. I know I’m gonna get lambasted for this reply but I’m currently at a yoga resort and people are telling me to live my truth everyday so blame the hippies if you don’t like my unadulterated transparency. Oh while I’m at it Gini, shaq and Keita can do one aswell because if you talk about no effort their top of the list also.


15.) 10 Mar 2021 14:39:59
I agree with everything you say there eds666.

{Ed0666's Note - if only you were female and a Meghan fox lookalike I’d marry you Longthing! But judging by you’re username you’re far from what I desire


16.) 10 Mar 2021 14:59:51
Peteprice, if that is all you see when Bobbie plays then, you are watching him with your eyes wide shut.


17.) 10 Mar 2021 15:32:22
I actually agree with everything you said ed666 to the very last word.

{Ed0666's Note - two posters agreeing with me on the same day? Is this a wind up? Can I marry you aswell Alonso??


 

 

 

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21 Apr 2021 09:27:01
Doing that would be a major risk! No CL, less money and less from sponsorship. Its a balancing act the club need to get right.

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18 Apr 2021 12:06:48
The point being that if Matip is on the list because of his injury record, which I agree with then the OX should be on it too? He is as equally unreliable as Matip and Keita imo.

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17 Apr 2021 16:32:52
Sure Matip could be useful if he fully recovered also. Ox should be on the list too.

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13 Apr 2021 19:59:46
MK. Salah went partying in Egypt, his brothers wedding when he clearly wasn't meant to. Elite footballer all the same! Maybe we shouldn't throw a player under a bus when our own have done the same.

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10 Apr 2021 18:34:00
J6, I would guess that it could be the usual talking to the player (Konate) without the clubs consent which is against the rules and a form of cheating in football.
It is something that club has done before under Klopp a few times and indeed did it last season to Werner, then proceeded to not even attempt to buy the player. Another RBL player, they must be ecstatic.

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08 May 2021 08:30:19
I would rather lose to Utd and beat Burnley, 2 points gained and seems more possible, 69pts.

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07 May 2021 06:52:48
Ed002 bringing the football back to the 80s. When football was a simple game 😃.

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06 May 2021 06:54:00
Seems like a "Harry" comment?

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06 May 2021 06:50:52
I think you are expecting £50 million more than I would value our players.

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06 May 2021 06:49:18
We will have as many games next year if we make the Europa Cup albeit to lesser teams for a fair part of the competition. I don't think we will have the depth in our squad, quality wise to challenge on all fronts. I would want the League again if possible and as far as we can in the Europa League. The FA and League Cup come way down on my desire.

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