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30 Aug 2013 22:12:50
Eds rumours circulating that Hondas deal with Milan has collapsed. Have we lodged any interest with CSKA? {Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of, Everton are still interested though.}

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29 Nov 2015 00:08:41
This might come across as MOTD fever but Bolasie really has been ripping it up at crystal palace for over a year now. With our lack of wingers is it something we could look at? Is he interesting other clubs?

1.) 29 Nov 2015 05:21:05
He is hit or miss. I rather we look at Mahrez or Mane if we go by MOTD fever.

2.) 29 Nov 2015 05:29:00
I'd rather we take a look at mahrez if we're looking to overpay for a winger. Absolutely wonderful player to watch.

{Ed001's Note - I agree Mahrez is breathtaking at times.}

3.) 29 Nov 2015 06:20:05
With pl experience Mahrez is perfect choice, but any winger coming in will block the chances of Kent, Wilson, Ojo etc. i think Kent is likely back in january?

4.) 29 Nov 2015 06:24:05
Reminds me of Lee Chun Yong before he got injured.

5.) 29 Nov 2015 06:36:14
I think the club will go after Leroy Sane. He is young, German and Klopp is a fan i assume.

6.) 29 Nov 2015 09:45:10
Who holds interest in Mahrez eds?

{Ed001's Note - be a question best addressed on the Leicester City page mate.}

7.) 29 Nov 2015 11:55:54
Ed001 I went on the Leicester banter page its only you posting on there? Does no Leicester fans post?

{Ed001's Note - they did but then we had an issue which saw it removed from Google and it went quiet.]

8.) 29 Nov 2015 15:43:00
Everyone talks about Vardy, but if you look at his record 11 goals, many are the result of chances created by a beautifully timed Mahrez pass, lay in, or through ball. Like the one yesterday against United.

Of course, Vardy has been nearly unstoppable, but think Mahrez deserves more credit than he's getting.

25 May 2015 21:17:09
I was willing to give Rodgers more time for a while, but with now Klopp and Ancelotti both available we have tobmake a play for either of these two.

1.) 25 May 2015 22:08:25
Ancelotti it taking a year out and Klopp (according to reports) is taking 6 months out

2.) 25 May 2015 22:11:27
Can't imagine how much their wages would be, but that would two excellent answers to our management problems.

3.) 25 May 2015 22:16:06
Ancelotti is taking a year out with a serious medical condition that requires operation

4.) 25 May 2015 23:26:55
Rafa can take a year in.

With us !

26 Apr 2015 11:39:27
Rodgers decision to persist with Johnson and Gerrard is baffling.

OK so Gerrard I can understand as he is a club legend and it is an emotional decision.

Johnson!? This is a player leaving on a free in a month and is quite frankly rubbish. i'm really starting to believe the fact that he has a 'must play when fit' clause in his contract. Not only has he been dire, Rodgers Is now playing him out of position at left back!! Why is it because of injuries? if so give a youth player a chance! He would struggle to put in a worse performance.

Ive stuck up for Rodgers throughout qhat is turning out to be a poor season. I also think last seasons performance should give him the first half of next season. However Klopp is very tempting.

1.) 26 Apr 2015 12:39:49
If he had such a clause then why was he on the bench not so long ago?

2.) 26 Apr 2015 13:40:16
irish rover ,

he might not have been fit enough , but can you tell us all why he gets played when he is so bad , would it not be better to give a young plater a chance to get valuable experience , also the kid can't be has bad has Glen Johnson who nearly cost us the game against West Brom when he never defended well at the end of the game

3.) 26 Apr 2015 14:24:15
mbrock
I guess you would have to ask all the managers that kept on picking him! If you are not fit enough then why are you on the bench? You could be called upon in the first 10 minutes. Just saying!

13 Apr 2015 21:59:59
Decent performance Not much required since Newcastle are an absolute joke.

I must say Johnson looked like he had one a competition to be able to play today. Even by his standards, my word that was poor!

Eds do you know how far away flannagan is!?

Also what do you think of sissokho. i'm assuming he will be available. I think he would be a good addition to our midfield.

{Ed002's Note - Flanagan is fit but messing around over a new contract.}

1.) 13 Apr 2015 22:43:11
Not sure I agree it was decent. I thought defensively we were really poor other than Ming. 10 shots we allowed on our goal to one of the worst sides ever played against us in Enfield. I agree re Johnson - even by his poor standards he was absolutley awful, does he actually get 150K for week? Shocking. Lovern does give him a good run for his money though in terms of who is doing more poor errors per minute on the pitch (very lucky with the penalty). This one will go to the wire.

But as long as everyone here are more than happy to get rid of Skertl in the summer (as it was agreed here in recent weeks, he is the source for all our problems this season), let Can play in his position (btw I didn't hear any ManU fan complain about Valencia playing out of his position this year), get rid of the 'terrible' back 3 system and play back 4 with Lovern and Toure as the centre of defence, well good luck with that. I think BR decision to play back 3 with Can, Skertl and Sakho, was one of the managerial brilliant decisions of this season in the PL, nothing less and all the eds in the world cannot convince me I am wrong on that.

Going forward we were wasteful as ever. World class goal from Sterling and two schoolboy misses from him. City, Chelsea or United would have been 5:0 against this Newcastel side half time today. We just don't know what to do with the ball in the last thirdas much as we are good in brining it to there. But a win is a win.

2.) 13 Apr 2015 22:45:55
Who's doing the messing Ed?Flanagan or Club?
Barry inLouth

{Ed002's Note - See above.}

3.) 13 Apr 2015 22:49:54
Our season in a nutshell.Can is NOT a CB because he lacks the attributes to play there and Loveren who had a solid game might as well have played on his own because he was exposed YET BR keeps playing him there and that amongst many other things (including Allen who was poor IMO, bar his goal)nearly cost us todayand even BR admitted that we were poor in possession. Sterling clearly is a talent BUT his is an unfinished article, young and needs MASSIVE improvement in his decision-making, first touch and finishing amongst others. If I was a big club, I will not be interested in Sterling for the money we may want because I would see him as one for the future who will get games BUT defo not an automatic berth like he would be here. If he is smart, he should stay here because this is the best place for him. All in all, a good 3 points BUT we are still in recovery, still nervous in defence and need drastic inprovement going into Wembley

4.) 13 Apr 2015 22:57:26
Seems to be a running trend at Liverpool at the minute! "Messing around over a new contract"

5.) 14 Apr 2015 01:51:25
Might of been a good decision to go to a back 3 but also a terrible one to stick with it for so long.

6.) 14 Apr 2015 05:36:26
Fanobip, I can't believe that you used the words managerial brilliance and Brendan Rodgers in the same sentence. Is it really managerially brilliant to continue to play our worst CB and have Sakho and Can play out of position to cover for his inadequacies?

7.) 14 Apr 2015 06:42:16
Johnson spend most of the game trying to get away without any real sweat, if he do a little turn to win a foul instead of a committed run down the wing, he will do little turn every single time. A lukewarm approach to playing. All 4 defenders were pretty poor today as well.

8.) 14 Apr 2015 08:45:19
BrisbaneLFC, unlike many here I try to judge players, managers and matches based on what I see in a game and not on what I once thought or said about them and I am happy to change my mind even if this means what I said in the past seems a bit stupid (for example I did say first part of the season that I didn't rate Couts because of his poor finishing).

So while I was highly critical of BR first part of the season (and said he should go), I have a lot of respect for what he has done in 2015 (with a squad that when players are injured and banned like yesterday looks soemtime like a championship squad defently not top half of the PL table squad, albe it partly his responsibility with some fo the signings) and yes this include moving to play back 3 with Can Skertl and Sakho which workedvery well for many games.

Likewise, while I was critical about Skertl previous seasons I think he was our best defender if not our best player this season and unlike what you suggest he covered more for Sakho and Can and others errors than they for him. The suggestion that he is the reason our forward game is stuck is just a joke in my view.

The notion of out of position, especially for young players is very overrated in my view . Players weren't born 'in a certain position' and they should play where they are best for the team on a day. I mentioned Valencia in ManU, I can also mention our own Kuyt who played a defensive role for Hollan in the world cup and they had mroe players to choose from than us. In any case in my view Can so far showed he is better in defence than midfield.

I also think by the way, that while BR press conferences skills were not always his strong side (not that I think it really matters), I think he handle quite well both the Gerrad's last year saga and the Sterling one - two tough issues to deal with. But I am sure I will not find many here to agree with me on that.

9.) 14 Apr 2015 09:21:43
@fanobip, I don't agree with most of your opinions in this thread but at least you're making yourself clear on why you have those opinions. I've wanted rid of Skrtel for 2 years. I don't think Can is better in defence and I don't know how you could say that after last night (he kept bombing forward, it's clear he's good at this but your CB doing it constantly is not what you want your CB doing).

Utd fans I've spoken to have been complaining of Valencia all season saying he's not a RB. Kuyt did a job for Van Gaal alright, WB but he was a hard working and disciplined winger 5 years ago so I don't think that was a huge surprise.

I thought Johnson looked woeful last night and I agree with you on Coutinho's poor finishing but I'd add anyone that didn't think that at the start of the season were wrong rather than your opinion being silly.

The whole Skrtel being our best/worst has been done to death though so I won't say any more than I have found him incredibly frustrating and I would have him at fault for a lot of chances and goals the past few years.

10.) 14 Apr 2015 21:19:39
Your right,skrtel should have gone way ago and agger stay,i'd like to see what lLori can do mind. Quicker flanno comes back the better.

03 Mar 2015 07:51:07
Hi, I'm a new poster but a regular on the site. The forum is fantastic and I think I would be speaking for the majority in saying the Eds do a fantastic job.

I wanted to post about much of the negativity throughout the season surrounding rodgers as manage. I know it's easy to support the manager whilst we are in a rich vein of form, but i must say that i hope he has quietened many of the detractors. The number of dillusional fans expecting us to win the league this season is quite incredible. Firstly last season was freak year. I would wager thay less 5% of fans would have expected us to challenge for the title at the start of last season and would have said finishing in the top four would have been a magnificent acheivement. So to suddenly expect us to challenge for the title again inspite of the fact that we lost our best player and based of form probably the best player in the world is quite frankly insane.

The main aim for this season has to be a top 4 finish so we can consolidate our position in europes elite competition and build a squad that can challenge. This is not going to happen overnight. Making the top 4 would be an unqualifies success and i can quite understand the looney fans whi think otherwise.

We cleary have an intelligent coach/man manager/ tactician who deserves support and time. Yes he has made mistakes and makes some off the wall comments. But he is young manager who is still learnig his trade at one of the most prestigious clubs In the world.

The instant success that some fans demand had really grated on me this season, and I have many debates with my friends where I have been exasperated by the lack support for the manager/players.

People forget that only a few seasons ago we had hodgson in the dugout marshalling konchesky and Poulsen!! The turn around has bren quite magnificent and a large part of that is down to the manager.

I have no doubt that given time Rodgers will leads us on for a titles challenge n the next couple of seasons and hope that FSG keep the faith.

Neel

{Ed001's Note - sorry but anyone who thinks finishing so far behind Chelsea is a success is the loony! I don't think anyone expected us to win the league, but we had every right to expect us to challenge for it again after the summer's outlay.}

1.) 03 Mar 2015 08:36:59
I think its looney to suggest that we should be much closer to Chelsea when we sold our best player and had our next best goalscorer out for the season. I suggest that Chelsea would not be so far ahead if hazard was sold and costa was injured forbhalf of the season.

Admittedly we had a bad start but this can only be expected from signing a number of bright young players.

Also ed would you say at the start of last season you expected us to challenge for the title? honestly is that what yo were expecting?

We clearly overacheived last season because we had the most lethal strike partnership in the league. That overacheivement has obviosly gone to a number of fans heads

{Ed001's Note - surely it is not loony when clearly the only reason we are so far behind is because the manager made mistakes, which you have agreed with. So you are saying we should accept mediocrity and it is loony to want otherwise purely because our manager is not up to the task of getting the best from the team at his disposal then?

I was fully expecting a title challenge with the players brought in and the players already at the club. There is simply no excuse for anything else. It was a bad start brought on by poor management. Now, for me, Rodgers should have come out and admitted he got it wrong, rather than coming out with pathetic excuses, which he is still making.

We never overachieved at all last season, sorry but I disagree. We achieved exactly what we deserved. If we had won the title, that would have been overachieving. Winning nothing is far from an overachievement. There was absolutely no reason we couldn't be right now in second again, other than we got off to a bad start, which is all in the hands of the manager. So no, it is not loony to expect more.}

2.) 03 Mar 2015 09:09:13
I don't think it can really be argued that we didn't overacheive last season. However I respect that you certainly believe we should have challenged for the title after finishing 7th the previous season! Your argument is too simple and is bordering on the cliche that coming second is last which is contrite to say the least!

How many times does Mourinho come out and admit he was wrong. He didn't win anyrhing for a few years surely he made mistakes? or is he also a bad manager? how about ancelotti surely thay should have beaten their rivals to the league last season with their resources- I didn't hear comments from him saying he was wrong?

Also do you think that if chelsea lost hazard, madrid lost ronaldo, barca lost messi it would have no impact on their team the following season? signing players is all good and well but even if we signed ready made so called stars it would take time for them to settle in. and we didn't even sign stars we signed bright young talents! case in point angel di maria, juan mata, andiry shevchenko, fernando torres! new sigings don't always pan out as expected.

{Ed001's Note - are you a wum or just being deliberately obtuse? Did I say we should have challenged for the title after coming 7th? I said we didn't overachieve, not that we should have challenged, but that we deserved to come second. Nobody mentioned anything about it being the first loser other than you, who is providing all the cliches of apologism you can possibly find.

What on earth has Mourinho or Ancelotti got to do with an idiotic decision to change a winning system to one that has failed on previous attempts to implement it with us? Did either Jose or Carlo do that? Not sure I remember either of them making such a basic error. Or are you loony enough to suggest that Brendan now bears comparison with two managers who have won the Champions League on more than one occasion, despite him never winning anything?

That is the manager's job, to choose the right replacements, to bring them into the team when they are ready, and to manage their performances to get the best out of them. Do you think Jose would be outside the top 4 with Chelsea if they had sold Hazard and lost Costa to a long injury at the start of the season? Not a chance. Why? Because he would have managed them better. So why are you defending Rodgers' errors at the start of the season? You say he is a young manager who is learning, but you seem to have forgotten that you only learn by admitting you made mistakes and learning from them. Not making snide comments to the media, while putting pressure on young players to sign new contracts and praising yourself for currently not making the mistakes you were making.}

3.) 03 Mar 2015 09:41:46
I don't think you are undrrstanding the point I am making about 'overacheivement'. According to most peoples expectations we were outsiders challenging for the top 4 and due to the players/managers performance we ended up deserving 2nd place in the league. This does not mean that the players didn't overacheive! Anyways that's all semanticss

I agree he has made mistakes but why should he front up to the media and admit them and lose the confidence of his players. Ok I agree he has made definitely some odd and silly comments about winning the champions leaghe and being susceptible to displaying clear nariccissm, but u don't think that means we should close our eyes to the turn around he has made to this team. His admission of his mistake is clear for everyone to see I don't see why he should adminish himself to please the fans!

{Ed001's Note - how would he lose the confidence of the players? What a load of nonsense that is. Do you lose confidence in someone who makes a mistake, fixes it and then admits to it? It tends to lead to respect.}

4.) 03 Mar 2015 10:01:27
I agree it can do, but more often that not in football how many times do we see it? Also who knows what is said behind closed doors, Rodgrs may well have intimated to the players he was trying different things that didn't work. I don't see why he should say it in public. Anyway good to debate with you Ed!

{Ed001's Note - I think that is more of a symptom of the problems in the world of football, along with the constant need to spit everywhere and the homophobia that sees players afraid to admit to being gay. People in the game are afraid to admit anything, they need to change that and grow up a bit. I doubt it will happen as so few footballers have the intelligence required to blow their own nose, let alone think for themselves!}

5.) 03 Mar 2015 10:16:59
I said at the start of the season we wouldn't challenge for the title, but we would make top 4.

Although Rodgers spent a lot of money in the summer, we also need to remember that we sold our best player to enable us to do it.

I would rather we kept saurez and only spent 40mil, then i'd have expected us to challenge for the title.

Last year we deserved to be where we were and although we have fallen behind this year we are fast approaching all the other teams above us.
6 games ago we where 15 points behind city in 2nd and now we are 7 points behind.

As sky have been showing this week are point ration in the 2nd half of the season is 2.50 and above a game, but before xmas we are 1.50 ish per game when playing Rodgers idle type of football.

If we start next season playing the way we are now i'd expect us to challenge.

6.) 03 Mar 2015 10:25:28
Ed1 do you think Liverpool will "cut the worm from the apple" as ed2 would say?! Rodgers I'm talking about
Tha ka

{Ed001's Note - I believe he has done enough to keep his job intact from what I have been told. There is still a belief in the need for someone in a DoF role that can work with him though.}

7.) 03 Mar 2015 10:29:00
I hate to say it but if Maureen lost Costa and Hazard yet was given 100m, chances are he would have bought a lot wiser than we did.

8.) 03 Mar 2015 11:37:30
I think the fact we are on such a good run of form now only highlights the fact Rodgers is a poor manager even more, the fact of look at what's actually possible with this squad, so why where we playing so poorly at the start? Why did Rodgers take so long to change the system? Why buy so many players to challenge on all fronts then play a second string team against Madrid? Why are we so so poor in Europe? Why are we so behind Chelsea in the league?
This season for me shows Rodgers has it in him to be a brilliant coach but he is so far out of his depth at this level without a DOF. He can coach and manage some players brilliantly and turn them into superstars Sturidge and coutinho for example, but look at all the ones he has alienated as well and as a result cost the club many millions and effectively put us out of the market when it comes to needing a top player to fill a gap that the accedemy can't.
I like Rodgers (I have met him a few times, nice man) but he really needs help for him to be successful at Liverpool.

9.) 03 Mar 2015 17:20:57
Ed1 you have sais a few ties over the last couple of months that the owners are sick and tired of Rodgers and his antics, that he keeps opening his mouth again and again and keeps making the same mistakes again and again! Then why are they going to stick with him in the summer?? Surely they would replace him??
Thqnks

{Ed001's Note - they still might, no final decision has been made, it just looks likely he has earnt himself another year, with help above him.}

10.) 04 Mar 2015 00:05:14
BR will be FULLY evaluated and IMO, he will b offered a series of recommendations which include a DOF and other things (media help, and so on)to help him focus only on coaching (which he is awesome at) and cut out his mistakes to a minimum. If he agrees, he stays and I`ll b happy with that. If he refuses (which is also likely) then he should be shown the door because all big clubs now don`t have managers, they all have people above them so if BR thinks he`s bigger than Pep, Mou, Simeone, Pello, Ancelotti, De Boer and the rest then for sure, he should go because he ain`t biger than those guys and sure ain`t bigger than LFC.

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24 May 2015 19:14:54
That is what he said! Wrting is on the wall

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03 Mar 2015 10:01:27
I agree it can do, but more often that not in football how many times do we see it? Also who knows what is said behind closed doors, Rodgrs may well have intimated to the players he was trying different things that didn't work. I don't see why he should say it in public. Anyway good to debate with you Ed!

{Ed001's Note - I think that is more of a symptom of the problems in the world of football, along with the constant need to spit everywhere and the homophobia that sees players afraid to admit to being gay. People in the game are afraid to admit anything, they need to change that and grow up a bit. I doubt it will happen as so few footballers have the intelligence required to blow their own nose, let alone think for themselves!}

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03 Mar 2015 09:41:46
I don't think you are undrrstanding the point I am making about 'overacheivement'. According to most peoples expectations we were outsiders challenging for the top 4 and due to the players/managers performance we ended up deserving 2nd place in the league. This does not mean that the players didn't overacheive! Anyways that's all semanticss

I agree he has made mistakes but why should he front up to the media and admit them and lose the confidence of his players. Ok I agree he has made definitely some odd and silly comments about winning the champions leaghe and being susceptible to displaying clear nariccissm, but u don't think that means we should close our eyes to the turn around he has made to this team. His admission of his mistake is clear for everyone to see I don't see why he should adminish himself to please the fans!

{Ed001's Note - how would he lose the confidence of the players? What a load of nonsense that is. Do you lose confidence in someone who makes a mistake, fixes it and then admits to it? It tends to lead to respect.}

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03 Mar 2015 09:09:13
I don't think it can really be argued that we didn't overacheive last season. However I respect that you certainly believe we should have challenged for the title after finishing 7th the previous season! Your argument is too simple and is bordering on the cliche that coming second is last which is contrite to say the least!

How many times does Mourinho come out and admit he was wrong. He didn't win anyrhing for a few years surely he made mistakes? or is he also a bad manager? how about ancelotti surely thay should have beaten their rivals to the league last season with their resources- I didn't hear comments from him saying he was wrong?

Also do you think that if chelsea lost hazard, madrid lost ronaldo, barca lost messi it would have no impact on their team the following season? signing players is all good and well but even if we signed ready made so called stars it would take time for them to settle in. and we didn't even sign stars we signed bright young talents! case in point angel di maria, juan mata, andiry shevchenko, fernando torres! new sigings don't always pan out as expected.

{Ed001's Note - are you a wum or just being deliberately obtuse? Did I say we should have challenged for the title after coming 7th? I said we didn't overachieve, not that we should have challenged, but that we deserved to come second. Nobody mentioned anything about it being the first loser other than you, who is providing all the cliches of apologism you can possibly find.

What on earth has Mourinho or Ancelotti got to do with an idiotic decision to change a winning system to one that has failed on previous attempts to implement it with us? Did either Jose or Carlo do that? Not sure I remember either of them making such a basic error. Or are you loony enough to suggest that Brendan now bears comparison with two managers who have won the Champions League on more than one occasion, despite him never winning anything?

That is the manager's job, to choose the right replacements, to bring them into the team when they are ready, and to manage their performances to get the best out of them. Do you think Jose would be outside the top 4 with Chelsea if they had sold Hazard and lost Costa to a long injury at the start of the season? Not a chance. Why? Because he would have managed them better. So why are you defending Rodgers' errors at the start of the season? You say he is a young manager who is learning, but you seem to have forgotten that you only learn by admitting you made mistakes and learning from them. Not making snide comments to the media, while putting pressure on young players to sign new contracts and praising yourself for currently not making the mistakes you were making.}

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03 Mar 2015 08:36:59
I think its looney to suggest that we should be much closer to Chelsea when we sold our best player and had our next best goalscorer out for the season. I suggest that Chelsea would not be so far ahead if hazard was sold and costa was injured forbhalf of the season.

Admittedly we had a bad start but this can only be expected from signing a number of bright young players.

Also ed would you say at the start of last season you expected us to challenge for the title? honestly is that what yo were expecting?

We clearly overacheived last season because we had the most lethal strike partnership in the league. That overacheivement has obviosly gone to a number of fans heads

{Ed001's Note - surely it is not loony when clearly the only reason we are so far behind is because the manager made mistakes, which you have agreed with. So you are saying we should accept mediocrity and it is loony to want otherwise purely because our manager is not up to the task of getting the best from the team at his disposal then?

I was fully expecting a title challenge with the players brought in and the players already at the club. There is simply no excuse for anything else. It was a bad start brought on by poor management. Now, for me, Rodgers should have come out and admitted he got it wrong, rather than coming out with pathetic excuses, which he is still making.

We never overachieved at all last season, sorry but I disagree. We achieved exactly what we deserved. If we had won the title, that would have been overachieving. Winning nothing is far from an overachievement. There was absolutely no reason we couldn't be right now in second again, other than we got off to a bad start, which is all in the hands of the manager. So no, it is not loony to expect more.}