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19 Jul 2018 11:40:23
Danny Ward off to Leicester possibly for 12 million pounds?
Didn't see that one coming. Good fee for someone who barely played for us, but an exciting adventure for Wardy who will be 1st choice if Schmeichel goes to Chelsea.
Probably means Karius stays as backup to Alisson.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 19 Jul 2018 11:45:28
Good for him! I have felt sorry for him in recent years. All the best if this is true.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 11:48:57
schmiecal to chelski?


3.) 19 Jul 2018 12:00:00
12m!

behave.


4.) 19 Jul 2018 12:09:15
We're losing our number one goalkeeper to Leicester.

From being 3rd choice to being No.1 and now a possible transfer in a matter of few days. Things change fast in football.


5.) 19 Jul 2018 12:20:45
Sounds like Roma and Chelsea will be fighting it out for Kasper Schmeichel now.

A shame about Ward. Klopp really has messed him about and stifled his development. He should have been sent back on loan last year, after helping Hudderfield to the Premier league, but Klopp decided he needed to have 3 goalkeepers, because clearly two wasn't enough.

Not like Ward played very much, a very bad decision from Klopp in my opinion and another broken promise. He really does have a habit of this, which is a little worrying, because you can gain a reputation by acting like this.

I only hope the lad goes on to have a decent campaign in a new setting. I think Ward will turn out to be a decent buy by Leicester, and, fingers crossed, Liverpool's goalkeeping nightmare will be ended by the arrival of Alisson. Great keeper, little concerned by his habit of parrying the ball back into dangerous areas but that will hopefully be eliminated by some regular coaching.

Still, with or without a CAM coming in, what a team we have this season. Hopefully we can go and win a trophy because it has been so long since I have seen our side celebrate a cup final. This might be the season we do though, I will keep my fingers crossed.


6.) 19 Jul 2018 12:27:47
Just read that and was about to ask Ed if it's true. Would be a very good move for him.

So Tim Krul or Boaz Myhill for 3rd keeper?
Or bring back Cavalieri? :)

{Ed001's Note - I have been hinting about it for a couple of days.}


7.) 19 Jul 2018 12:37:35
Good luck to the lad. He deserves to be playing especially after Klopp has messed him around so much!


8.) 19 Jul 2018 12:55:30
Effectively Klopp added a couple of million to Danny Ward's value by "making him Liverpool's number 1" for a few days.

That's business.


9.) 19 Jul 2018 13:46:46
LFC-S+MANGO Roma apparently had an agreement with PSG for Alphonse Areola in place incase Alisson deal went through so looks like if Schmeichel is to move it would be to go to Chelski rather than replace Alisson.


10.) 19 Jul 2018 13:52:26
If we can get 15 million odd for migs that's 27 off alisson's fee already.

That leaves karius and garabara as back up.

Thats good business indeed.

Good luck to ward. I hope kasper leaves and he gets his chance to show what he can do in the prem.


11.) 19 Jul 2018 14:19:59
So did Klopp actually come out publicly announcing Ward as number one? Missed that interview. Any links, be an interesting watch.

Otherwise is everyone getting this Ward no.1 info from the same set of journos, twitter etc that I see always slammed down as utter bollox? Then becoming a super keyboard warrior ready and waiting to type ‘embarrassing’ as much as possible.


12.) 19 Jul 2018 14:39:17
Man, how bad is going from Courtois (spelling) to Schmeichel? Chelski getting ripped apart!

Hope Becker lives up to his price. I really wanted to see Ward in action at the big stage. Hope he gets his chance in the EPL!


13.) 19 Jul 2018 14:57:00
I know mcfurgen, I’d like to see this interview too. For all we know Klopp said Ward will be given the chance to fight for number 1 shirt. Which is fine. If Ward never wanted to play for Liverpool why did he sign a contract with us? Posters are always complaining that our young players don’t get their chances. Maybe Klopp brought him off loan and gave him a chance and he wasn’t good enough?


14.) 19 Jul 2018 15:20:05
Really disappointed that Ward is going. We should have kept him and given him a chance.
It should be Migs who we should sell on.
Ward is much younger and can still learn.
Migs has had plenty of chances under 2 managers and has rarely been up to the very top end of the Premier League.

For me this is a real bad move by the club and Klopp.

Migs should have been sold or even used as part exchange for AB. The Italian league would suit him much better and away from premier league spotlight.

Now let's see if we can change the goal keeping coaches!


15.) 19 Jul 2018 15:37:13
Explains why he wasn't in the squad against Bury.


16.) 19 Jul 2018 15:49:09
But what do you do if nobody wants to by mignolet?


17.) 19 Jul 2018 15:48:40
I don't understand what all the hue and cry about Klopp telling Ward he has the chance of being his Number 1, is all about (regardless of whether it is documented as true or not) . As manager, what is he supposed to do? Tell him that "listen you're stuck in the No. 2 or 3 position here for life"?

I've never managed a sports team in my life but I run businesses (with a whole bunch of employees) since 36 years. And the number 1 lesson I've learnt about getting performance out of, and retaining, employees, is to keep motivating them and keep showing them the next step up that is there for them to take. Aspiration to move up in life motivates everybody! And I'm sure it's like that in all team sports where squads of players are involved.

So what if Klopp told Ward "you have the chance to be my Number 1"? I don't see it is a lie. It's logical and motivational man-management. And Klopp seems to be a level headed and fair guy, when handing out starting jobs. Otherwise TAA and Robertson would not be where they are. Clyne got injured, TAA (and Gomez) took over and they were deemed good enough to keep their places, Clyne wasn't. Moreno started the season last year, until Robertson took over and showed he deserved to keep his place. And after Mignolet got demoted, if Karius had underperformed or gotten injured, Ward too would have gotten his shot, I'm sure of it. No need to demonize Klopp as some kind of promise-breaking ogre. (I agree that Ward should not have been in the team last year, because he is way better than a No.3, and should have been loaned out, but that's a different matter alltogether) .

{Ed002's Note - It is to do with him repeatedly saying things like this - he has done it over and over. He should simply shut up about it.}


18.) 19 Jul 2018 15:49:09
But what do you do if nobody wants to by mignolet?


19.) 19 Jul 2018 16:22:44
Surely the Belgian reserve keeper will be in demand, if the price is right. Those suggesting either Ward or Karius for our backup have not considered what a 25 year old player needs in their career.


20.) 19 Jul 2018 16:41:31
ArAy1969, I agree with every single word you have written. Excellent post.


21.) 19 Jul 2018 16:28:43
Yes Ed002, I've read before where you have stated that he should stop saying it. But do you mean not saying it out in the press or the public domain, or do you mean that he should stop saying it to players because he is lying and has no intention of ever trying to deliver what he is suggesting? Wanted your clarification, if you don't mind.

{Ed002's Note - He should stop saying any such things in the public domain. It makes him look rather stupid.}


22.) 19 Jul 2018 17:11:16
The problem is that Klopp has made promises to players many times before and has let them down on numerous occasions. If he keeps doing this then he will gain a reputation as a liar, something he and the club will not want. Players will be hesitant to join us if they learn of Klopp's tendancy to promise and never stay committed to those promises. Would you work for someone who had a tendancy to behave as Klopp has in this regard?

Listen, I love Klopp as much as the next Liverpool fan but I am not blind to his antics. Klopp has outdone expectations, a Champions League final was never expected last season, but there are areas he can improve. Hopefully that will come with time.

Either way, it has been a great transfer window, regardless if no one else comes, but I just hope we don't have more cases of Grujic's and Ward's, who have been let down by the manager.


23.) 19 Jul 2018 17:45:10
LFC-S Mango, do you not think it is possible that Klopp made conditional promises to players such as Grujic and Ward who have let themselves down by not performing in training, thereby foregoing the opportunity to feature in the first team? Just a thought.


24.) 19 Jul 2018 17:14:48
Okay Ed002, many thanks. 👍.


25.) 19 Jul 2018 20:01:07
Danny Ward will become a very decent goalkeeper, and we'll remember this day when many regarded his sale as a smart piece of business. He deserved his chance to stake a claim at Liverpool, but he didn't get it. I wish him the very best.


26.) 19 Jul 2018 22:32:31
I think ward will develop. But surely the fact that klopp still trusted migs and karious says how he has trained on.


 

 

28 Dec 2017 04:18:50
Apparently the club is looking at Butland or Alisson of Roma as potential GK recruitments. Alisson is really good from what I have seem of him in the UCL but on the other hand, Im really disappointed Karius or Ward may never get a fair crack at LFC. Really hoped Klopp would give Karius an extended run to see how he does as the talent is clearly there.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 28 Dec 2017 06:20:10
I really wish Ward could get his chance or atleast go out on loan.


2.) 28 Dec 2017 08:08:43
Butland is a great shout and I hope it comes off, he is a personal favourite and more realistic than a Donnaruma let's say, put Gomez next to Van Dijk and let them build a partnership/ triangle, Gomez is going to make some mistakes but he needs to learn and I hope he gets the chance to grow in that position.


3.) 28 Dec 2017 09:30:06
I am over the moon with the VVD signing as central defence has been a problem for us for a number of years. However goalkeeper has been an issue for even longer. If we were to bring in a top keeper (highly unlikely now) in Jan then I think it's a straight shoot out between us and Chlsea (expecting them to spend in Jan) for 2nd. If we continue with Mig then top 4 will be down to who can mess up the least (similar to last season when us, Arsenal and Utd made it look they were trying their best to throw it away every time they had the opportunity) . For me just putting Ward in goal would increase those chances of gaining automatic CL qualification for next season.

{Ed025's Note - liverpool are the second best side in the league jayden and with the signing of VVD and keita i fully expect them to challenge for the title next season if they bring in a decent cat..


4.) 28 Dec 2017 09:26:06
Apparently trapp is of interest aswell have you heard out ed?

{Ed025's Note - he has been mentioned adam but thats about it at the moment mate..


5.) 28 Dec 2017 10:27:50
Thanks ed.

{Ed025's Note - no worries mate..


6.) 28 Dec 2017 10:48:08
If we were to sign Trapp after the VVD signing then there is a genuine chance that we can challenge for the Champions league this year. Our attack would frighten anyone in the competition and with a potential back line of Trapp Clyne Gomez/ Matip VVD and Robertson we could have a chance to keep most teams out at the other end. Albeit I do not know whether Trapp is cup tied.


7.) 28 Dec 2017 12:58:44
I can't say I've watched Trapp but reputationally he didn't sound like a top class keeper. I'd prefer we do what we did with VVD, identify the best possible guy and pay what's needed for him.

{Ed002's Note - Getting the money from where?}


8.) 28 Dec 2017 13:32:49
Sorry ed, I'm assuming we'll have the money to make at least one major signing this summer, I'd use it on a goalkeeper.

{Ed002's Note - and what about FFP and the wages? Liverpool need to be fiscally responsible and will continue to spend but that spending cannot simply be “what is needed”.}


9.) 28 Dec 2017 13:35:35
Coutinho of course ed002. Money has to come from somewhere.


10.) 28 Dec 2017 13:43:26
We are continually told Coutinho wants out. If or when he is sold the transfer fee will eclipse the VVD signing. Thus putting us well within FFP.

{Ed002's Note - It really doesn’t work quite like that.}


11.) 28 Dec 2017 15:25:44
Not a fan of Butland too many injuries and I don’t think he holds that much ability. I’ve not watched much of Trapp, Oblak would be a no go but I’d be cheeky and try for Donnarumma, the fans dislike him they think he’s bleeding the club dry, he doesn’t seem to be happy there, Real Madrid have other targets, no other top teams seem to be desperate for a goalkeeper? Worth a shot.

{Ed001's Note - he wants to leave but his manager is the same man as Balotelli so I am not sure it would be a realistic option, sadly.}


12.) 28 Dec 2017 15:07:06
Ed2, this raises the question, are we sailing close to the wind on FFP?

{Ed002's Note - It will be clearer in February when the accounts come but on wages yes.}


13.) 28 Dec 2017 15:08:48
The financial fair play I know little about so just a question to Ed2 if I may (apologies for lack of knowledge) but is the FFP a seasonal thing? does it go on what we earn? so for example, if Manchester City went and won the Premier League and Champions league which would obviously bring in more revenue, would they have more to spend on players/ wages? Hope that makes sense, I have never quite understood how it works.

{Ed002's Note - It is based on what clubs earn but not all earnings and expenditure are releavant - and it is a three year rolling period.}


14.) 28 Dec 2017 15:38:18
How are city and psg able to spend what they like with ffp, I thought it was same for all and not only if you've rich owners.

{Ed002's Note - They can't spend what they like - they have to abide by the rules.}


15.) 28 Dec 2017 17:31:20
Interesting thanks Ed2.


16.) 28 Dec 2017 22:03:53
From memory its at least partially based on your revenue. As in the more money you make, the more you can spend. So if say we were to get a whacking great shirt deal from Adidas then we could spend more in the market under FFP. Is this correct Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Not really.}


 

 

12 Dec 2017 08:51:32
Rumors of Lemar popping up again. Torn on this potential deal. Will probably have to spend nearly all the Coutinho cash on Lemar and get a quality player to boost our first team but again we could go out and buy better defenders by selling Coutinho and giving Woodburn and Ojo more chances instead of splurging on Lemar. Hope Klopp gets this decision right.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 12 Dec 2017 09:44:46
Sorry but unless you want to challenge for the top four and push for the title I’m sorry but kids with potential won’t cut it. I’m all for giving them a chance but if we’re to compete with the teams above us in the league we also need to compete with them in the transfer market.


2.) 12 Dec 2017 10:08:34
I really think Lemar is the ideal signing to replace Coutinho. Comfortable out on the left where Klopp likes to deploy Coutinho. If Salah is going to stay more central like the last few games then Mane can go back on the right where he looked more lethal last year than he has on the left this year! Genuinely believe this signing would help the team immeasurably.


3.) 12 Dec 2017 11:45:20
Were are these rumours popping up again please IB? I no Ed002 said in the Sharkopod we have interest mate but a deal would be hard to get done.


4.) 12 Dec 2017 12:29:30
Fenton, Lemar's form this season worries me. Maybe because he is not giving his 100% after Monaco sold half their team and showed lack of ambition or he has not been able to adjust with his new team mates. But the money being touted around to sign Lemar is just plain ridiculous. I can understand spending 50-60 million pounds but close to 90 million? He is not worth that much.


5.) 12 Dec 2017 12:41:42
Indian in todays market mate that's the price you're going to have to pay unfortunately. I'm not saying I think he's worth that much but I think he's our best option out there if Coutinho leaves! Regarding his form, I trust Klopp to get the best out of any player so that doesn't worry me.


6.) 12 Dec 2017 13:08:06
Like him, but definitely not done enough to suggest he is a 90m player. Yes in today's market 50-60m but think if 90m is asking price we need to move on. There is still mane's and salah out there for far better value.

{Ed025's Note - they wont be asking you to contribute coco so dont worry about the price mate..


7.) 12 Dec 2017 13:51:13
Lemar shouldn't be the priority! Need defenders first.


8.) 12 Dec 2017 13:45:05
Lol Ed025. Your reply to Coco just made me spit coffee on my laptop screen. You owe me one laptop screen cleaning solution.

{Ed025's Note - i will put one in the post IB mate.. :)


9.) 12 Dec 2017 13:56:27
Ed025, Are you aware were or why this has surfaced from again mate today?

{Ed025's Note - not really KR, liverpool will always be associated with good players mate and he is certainly one of them..


10.) 12 Dec 2017 14:55:07
I would rather we raid Leipzig again for Forsberg.


11.) 12 Dec 2017 15:09:34
Thanks forthe reassurance Ed025 Haha I was getting worried it would near empty my account. (I wish)

{Ed025's Note - you save your money coco im sure the club dont need it mate..


12.) 12 Dec 2017 15:48:46
Cheers ed. I just wish I knew what was fact and what is fabricated mate.

{Ed025's Note - im sure we will find out presently KR mate..


13.) 12 Dec 2017 17:31:51
Yes mate im sure we will. I was kinda hoping you might know mate lol🤔.

{Ed002's Note - I can tell you that whilst in Switzerland and Monte Carlo that another English club have been talking to Monaco about Lemar and another matter in the past couple of days.}


14.) 12 Dec 2017 18:47:32
Ok Ed002. Thanks. You did say there is plenty of interest in him and a deal would be a hard one to get done. Especially if other club ate already making advances. Not likely then by the sounds of it.

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from a number of clubs.}


15.) 13 Dec 2017 03:53:02
We won't be getting Lemar. Pretty confident about that.
Someone like Draxler looks a more realistic and like for like replacement for Coutinho (if he leaves in January) .


16.) 13 Dec 2017 07:07:25
IB you started this rumour mate lol.


17.) 13 Dec 2017 20:01:49
The club has already declined to go to 90m level for Lemar last summer so don’t see why would change.


 

 

26 Sep 2017 15:44:41
Hey Ed001, have we shown any interest in Lascelles or Lejeune of Newcastle? You said Klopp wants 2 CBs by next summer of which I assume one will be VVD. Maybe one of the two Newcastle Cbs would be a good options for us considering they would be cheaper than the alternatives bandied about and from what I have seen of them, they seem disciplined enough to be effective in a high line.

Indian Buzzer

{Ed001's Note - not recently in Lascelles, before he moved to Newcastle we were interested, but not since. As for Lejeune, he was being watched by a lot of clubs, we certainly looked at him, but it was Arsenal (if I remember rightly) that Newcastle beat to his signature.}


1.) 26 Sep 2017 16:06:29
I can't see were you said this ed about Klopp wanting 2 new CB's by next summer?

{Ed001's Note - the plan originally was one this summer, one next, to give Gomez a season to see if he was worth developing rather than buying the second one. That was what I actually said.}


2.) 26 Sep 2017 16:51:05
Ok mate. And were do you think we are at now? Still wanting 2 in? Bloody hell its already sounding like another rebuilding job mate next year replacing Couts, Can and 2 CB's already lol.

{Ed001's Note - right now I think Klopp would just be glad to get one in!}


3.) 26 Sep 2017 17:28:45
Agreed. Possibly in Jan?


4.) 07 Oct 2017 07:58:54
Can is replaced with Keita, Couts might not be leaving but otherwise yes I guess there will be full rebuild in the defenxe wich will take time to adapt after .


 

 

14 May 2017 05:50:37
Is it true we have signed Robertson? Bit of a bummer imo. Never really stood out for me in the Hull side but hope Klopp knows what he is doing.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 14 May 2017 08:36:36
Whether it is true or not, Robertson is one of Hull's best players. Surely will be an upgrade on Moreno? Might not be the player everyone wants but he will have the opportunity to prove that he is capable of wearing the shirt. At the end of the day, we need a LB. Whether Roberston is the answer is yet to be seen but no point in shooting him down if he has not even kicked a ball for LFC.

Our signings should be based on bringing in players who are better than what we currently have and not singing the next player to make him our next highest earner.

If Robertson does join then good for the lad. As long as he wears the shirt with pride and gives it his all for the club on and off the pitch. That is what we require from our players. Nothing more, nothing less.

{Ed025's Note - some really good positive stuff from you today max...you must have got your conkers last night mate.. :)


2.) 14 May 2017 08:52:56
Ed025, there is nothing wrong with being negative, as long as there is substance to it.

This is our biggest match of the season. 3 points dropped today and whatever we do vs Boro will unlikely have any relevance.

Now we have people moaning about a 23 year old Scot we might have signed. What is wrong with our fans?

In Liverpool’s eighteen title winning seasons, there has always been a Scot in the team :-)

{Ed025's Note - some will always look on the bleak side max and maybe thats how they vent their personal frustrations, for me liverpool have had a good season and are on the verge of completing what im sure was the original goal of getting in the top 4 mate..


3.) 14 May 2017 09:14:44
Where is the robertson news coming from? Any truth? If he is coming let's get behind him!


4.) 14 May 2017 09:19:02
He's a descent young player with room for improvement, if he had an exotic name or came from another league abroad people would get excited about the possibility. Give the guy a chance and get behind him if he signs!


5.) 14 May 2017 09:09:16
max

I have to admit that I have seen Robertson play, but in my eyes its not just about bringing in players who are better than what we have, as getting someone better than Moreno is hardly a hard thing to do.

Bringing in players just because they are better than what we have has been our problem for years.

What we should be aiming for is bringing in players who are gong to take us to the next level and challenge for the league title and also players that will cope with the champions league (all being well) .

Is Robertson that sort of player?

{Ed025's Note - liverpool are not in the financial position to buy all "worldies" lavers, sometimes you have to take a punt on a few so called lesser lights who you hope fit into the system, the likes of dele alli and VVD have stepped up to the mark and there are plenty more out there who can do the same, add to that the odd youth player who can come through and for me thats the way forward, its also the liverpool way which has brought them great success in the past mate..


6.) 14 May 2017 09:52:01
Ed

I'm not stupid enough to think that we can go out and spend 80-90 mil on every single player we buy, but to me our defence is our main problem area and i think that is where most of money this summer should be spent.

I'd rather sort the defence out first before looking for more attacking players.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with that lavers but i also see a goalscorer as a priority mate, liverpool create a lot of chances and they are not being put away..


7.) 14 May 2017 10:14:32
Am I missing something here? We're already signing players although the transfer window isn't open yet?
Is this some sort of pre-signing agreement or has silly season already kicked off?

{Ed025's Note - there are such things as pre-contract agreements flash but i dont believe this is the case here, but inquiries can be made outside the windows mate..


8.) 14 May 2017 10:03:25
Who is VVD? I'm having a mind blank.

{Ed001's Note - Virgil van Dijk.}


9.) 14 May 2017 10:56:53
Lavers, when have we brought in players better than what we had in transfer windows going back?

I do not believe there are even a handful that can be mentioned. Our problem has been signing players at ridiculous fees and wages and replacing what we have with either overpriced or high wage players.

Like I said, Robertson will not be the fan favourite when it comes to signings if it had to be true but surely cannot be worse than Moreno who is struggling to make the bench.

Klopp has done one thing right, each player he has signed permanently so far bar Grujic due to injuries have had a more than decent amount of playing time in the first team this season whereas previously we would sign a players paying way over the odds for them and other instances send them on loan or see them leaving without hardly kicking a ball for us.

If Robertson does join then so be it. In my humble opinion he will be an upgrade on what we currently have available and will not be taking a massive chunk out of the club finances. Having Milner at LB who now clearly has been a stopgap as one of your highest earners is the reason why Liverpool have continuously failed in the transfer market. That is why signing someone like Van Dijk will be yet another unforgettable act of gross negligence.

No more expensive and mind boggling mistakes, we cannot afford to be gung ho in the market anymore and if we want to start building a squad capable of achieving success then their needs to be sustainability.


10.) 14 May 2017 11:48:58
Max

Like you said Robertson can't be worse than Moreno who can't make the bench.

Just IMO for a problem area of the team where we have had a midfielder play all season we need to aim a little higher than that.

Your right we do pay stupid amounts on players but the selling team know we are desperate so they up there price.

We need to aim for players with winning mentalities that can push us up a level.


 

 

 

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27 Sep 2018 05:44:45
Well lads it was a bit disappointing we went our of the league cup the way we did especially against Chelsea but let's remember that we played a reserve back 5 and gave a full first debut to Fabinho who is still finding his feet like Keita in midfield.
On one hand, we lose the opportunity to win a trophy but on the other hand, Klopp and Co can now concentrate on the league and UCL for the next 3 months and then give the FA Cup a real good go.
The most important thing that we learned today is that we have reliable backups to our front 3 that can hold their own against one of the better defences in the league and could have won us the game with better finishing. As much as I would have loved us to beat Chelsea, I would rather we beat them in the league. The UCL and EPL are our priorities and that is the reason why I am not particularly disappointed at getting knocked out.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 27 Sep 2018 07:22:43
We should always be disappointed to get knocked out of a cup. Also, you can't say we fielded a weakened defense and then say theirs was one of the better ones in the league. Theirs was 3/ 4 reserves also.


2.) 27 Sep 2018 08:04:15
Our teams were balanced, both had sub keepers, rested key players, new defences this season.


3.) 27 Sep 2018 10:23:25
I think we went out to an astonishing goal from an astonishing player. (Roll on the Barcelona and Real links for Hazard) . Other than that the two teams were fairly even with both enjoying periods of dominance. Like other fans I'd of liked to have won but I'm not sure it'll be a negative thing at the end of the season that we went out early in the Carabao Cup.


4.) 27 Sep 2018 20:03:04
I am just as pissed that we lost cos I want my team to win EVERY game and as a former athlete and amateur footballer, I despise losing. As per the game itself, I thought we played very well as a makeshift team and we were clearly the better team after we cleaned out our cobwebs in the first half. In fact, we created more chances than they did. Created much clearer chances than they did and Studge would have had a hat trick had he had his head screwed on right. We did not "decide the game" (Klopp's new phrase) when we were in control and that leaves you at the mercy of a Hazard stunner or an offside goal not being chalked off by the forever-incompetent Kevin Friend. We need to reconcile with this reality and learn from them cos if we let Hazard do his thing on Sat then, we will come undone again. Up Da Pool!


5.) 28 Sep 2018 08:43:18
Van dijk and robbo will take care of hazard believe. I think Becker would have saved both goals as well. He would have parried the first one behind the post and saved eden's shot.

Chelsea did also field a weaker team. The worst thing about the whole thing was Ross barkley winning at a field.

{Ed025's Note - thats very bitter of you MM, we have moved on from ross and i suggest you do the same mate..


 

 

09 Aug 2018 12:14:14
Looks like Ings is staying due to no side willing to pay his ridiculous asking price. The club should do the right thing and reduce Origi's asking price for European clubs as no one is going to pay a significant amount for a wantaway striker. The last thing we need is 4 senior strikers in the squad with only one expected to play a significant part in the campaign. If Ings stays, its imperative the club sells Origi for whatever they can get and loan out Solanke.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 09 Aug 2018 12:40:22
It is hardly imperative to sell at prices not suited to the club.
and it has never hurt to have multiple options. i don't think ings and origi are going to argue that they are better than bobby, mane or salah to warrant a first team place.


2.) 09 Aug 2018 13:09:48
Multiple options for what? To see who sits in the stands more for match days? Or keep paying their wages when they will barely get a look in all season? These guys are just losing another year of their careers if we ask for ridiculous sums of money for them when its blatantly obvious Klopp has no use for them and they are clearly not good enough for us anymore.
And the interested parties? Mid table or relegation threatened clubs at best. These clubs ain't paying 20 million plus the ridiculous wages for half decent yet injury prone (Ings) and inconsistent (Origi) strikers. Crystal Palace, Newcastle. Southampton etc know we want these players gone and they will clearly hold the upper hand in negotiations. Michael Edwards and co are in no position to dictate terms especially in the closing moments of the transfer window and play God. Let the poor lads go before Origi and Ings go down the Markovic route. Its doing no one any favours.

Ings: 10-12 mil pounds
Origi: 15 mil
Markovic: Loan and then let go for free next summer
Ojo: 5 mil (if we are lucky)

Interested clubs will actually pay these prices, not the ridiculous figures the press and LFC was throwing around for the sake of it. Otherwise its another round of pointless loans where we get no transfer fees and continue paying a portion of their wages.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 13:10:09
Good, not a bad option to have in the squad, 442 with Ingsy and Studge is a nice tactical change to have. Solanke and Origi need to leave on loan and permanently respectively.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 14:57:51
The poor lads would go if some one bids mate. There has been no bid. So we keep them. You don't have to pay their salaries out of your pocket. The club will pay them and do what is in the clubs best interest. We don't want to sell for cheap and that's that.
There are cup games to play in. I don't know about I want to win both the cups this season and the league and the cl. So we need players.


 

 

24 Jul 2018 13:21:53
Respect to Casillas who has posted a video highlighting the mistakes he made as a GK over the course of his career in support of Karius.
Wish more GKs will come out to support Karius. The abuse hurled by the select LFC fans at Loris is unacceptable and they should be ashamed of themselves. Do these persons not understand what YNWA means and how this Karius abuse is tainting the club's image to the football world?

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1.) 24 Jul 2018 13:54:18
Its nice of him to do that but he shouldn't need to. He has done because there are so many gilfnards on social media who think its ok to hurl abuse at someone who made a mistake. (Im still of the opinion that the first one is more great play from benzema, he anticipated, gambled and it paid off) .
There are too many persons, some liverpool fans some not. Who think its ok to throw personal abuse and threats to a player who made a mistake in their job.
If we had cameras on these persons i can guarantee we would see at least one mistake a day from them.

I was hoping he stayed but now i think the damage has been done and because it was seen as the done thing and ok to abuse him (it isnt) the twatterverse have probably ruined the boys confidence. So i hope he gets the oppurtunity to build a career and life away from anfield.

Also, some people seem to forget he helped get us to the final in the first place!


2.) 24 Jul 2018 14:12:29
If I were karius I would erm turn off my computer?


3.) 24 Jul 2018 14:58:02
Sorry Robbie but that is one of the most naive posts that I have read. The fact is that Karius should not have to turn off his computer - the abusers should do that if they have nothing better to do than attack players as they do.


4.) 24 Jul 2018 15:11:53
I think or at least hope, it was intended as tounge and cheek.


5.) 24 Jul 2018 15:21:14
I think Iker remembers the warm reception he got from the Kop last season. Nothing but praise for Liverpool since then (even though we clap all goalkeepers obviously) but still.


6.) 24 Jul 2018 16:03:23
That was not Benzema's skill it was Karius' terrible mistake, let's not dress it up. It was bloody woeful. Does he deserve the abuse though? Of course not. I hope he turns his career around and does well over the next 10 years, wherever that may be.


7.) 24 Jul 2018 16:05:13
Can Karius have his own tab at the top?

I completely agree that he or anyone should not be abused and the media should leave him be but we don't need several posts a day of pretty much the same thing regarding him. I'm sick of hearing about him.


8.) 24 Jul 2018 16:11:44
Quality from him. I really liked him when he came through at real Madrid. I think he peaked to early but had a very successful career.


9.) 24 Jul 2018 16:33:17
When I was young page we got by without computers. Collecting conkers, hardening conkers, playing conkers, picking up broken conkers and crying and I turned out fine!


10.) 24 Jul 2018 17:45:08
Apart from your conked obsession, eh Robbie 😉😂.


11.) 24 Jul 2018 18:20:11
If you're famous, you're liable to get abuse from somewhere on the internet, and if you have an internet persona you're going to get the most hits there. I'm with Robbie. If you're a footballer, you're not a normal person in a normal situation. If you don't like heat, don't holiday in Dubai.

I used to get peeved by the constant posts about Mignolet before Karius was flavour of the month, JTaylor. I was very much assured that this is a public forum where you can read it, contribute and like it or kindly go elsewhere. The season will start soon and Karius as a subject will be a funny little footnote on Liverpool's epic ass.


12.) 24 Jul 2018 20:21:52
Can we stop talking about karius now? Been done 2 death and is so boring. he's been replaced. end of story. I don't agree with any abuse 2 players. but let's move on now. Thanks.


 

 

23 Jul 2018 03:56:18
Really feeling sorry for Karius. The guy's head is all over the place, the fans refuse to get behind him and the jeers and will not be doing him any favours. Klopp needs to take this situation more seriously and look for a good loan move for Karius away from the limelight and the thankless task of being a LFC goalkeeper.
A loan move to a mid table side in Bundesliga like Mainz or Bremen makes sense, away from the BPL. There is still a good GK somewhere in Karius but his confidence is shot to pieces and he simply seems to be going through the motions until Klopp swings the axe on his LFC career.

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1.) 23 Jul 2018 05:04:31
Agreed. Think he needs to leave for the sake of his family and his own mental health more than anything else at the moment. Horrible that people are jeering him but their their will always be cretins that won’t get behind a player. If I was him I’d want to leave and start again.


2.) 23 Jul 2018 05:51:22
Spot on IB and westwood.


3.) 23 Jul 2018 07:18:06
genuinely hope he has the chance to start again, sad that it had to come to this. i think he is strong enough, but this environment is not the best one for his career right now.


4.) 23 Jul 2018 07:42:12
It’s all well and good saying he needs a loan but a loan where? I don’t see clubs queuing around the block to try to sign him, why would they he is clearly low on confidence. Maybe he needs to stay for the season as backup to Alisson and play for the under 23 team to rebuild his confidence.


5.) 23 Jul 2018 08:14:52
I expected better from the kop, I have to say. I think now alisson is here they've given up on karius. Mightvebeen different if he was still no1.


6.) 23 Jul 2018 09:31:08
Karius hasn't played in front of the Kop since the final and hasn't played in England since Alison was officially at Liverpool, what is the Kop responsible for?


7.) 23 Jul 2018 11:17:30
Karius needs to take time out from football and focus on his mental well-being, IMO. To me, football is not important right now. His mental health is. The man is broken and it seems like the more he tries to do right, the more wrong he does. This is a mental/ psychological issue now that have nothing to do with football. He should leave LFC and just take time off to get right in his head and then come back to football mentally tougher and if he can't then at least, we know he won't be lost to us all. See Robert Enke.


8.) 23 Jul 2018 16:54:27
It should have happened as soon as he came back from holiday. There is NO CHANCE of him getting the headspace he needs playing for Liverpool in the premier league.
Secondly if I was his agent or part of his support network I would immediately tell him to leave social media or subcontract his social media to someone else.

This is at least until he recovers. I think it will take him a long time as a human I feel for him.
On a football level I don’t think he’s good enough or ever will be to play at elite level and he’s just been really unfortunate to have his weaknesses exposed in the most high profile way. Football is cruel, it always has been and probably always will. It’s like the law of the jungle out there.


 

 

28 Jun 2018 05:15:33
I know this won't be a popular opinion but I would rather go into next season with Karius and Ward as our GKs than splash a penny more than 30 million for Alisson. He looked good on Youtube but watching him for Roma against LFC and his performances for Brazil in the World Cup makes me believe he just had a handful of world class performances and people are jumping on the 'wrold class' bandwagon.
Not impressed with Alisson at all so far and I think Klopp will give Karius another go which I think is the right decision. Spout all the hatred you want at Karius, but the lad is better than most GKs (especially when asked to play a high line defense) and we will struggle to find anyone better fro a reasonable price. Please no to Butland, Pope etc.

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{Ed001's Note - so a handful of games you have watched is enough to convince you that the people who watch him every week have been convinced by a handful of world class performances? You really have not thought this through have you?}


1.) 28 Jun 2018 05:28:42
First of all, I don't think Alisson is world class by any stretch and I find it hard to believe that any one on this site has watched Roma play week in week out to have a solid opinion on his abilities. My sample size is around 10 games but just don't think he is worth all the fuss based on those 10 games. Karius has had some very good games as well and people want him gone just because of what happened in the UCL final. And most importantly, Alisson wants Real. Let them overpay for him. Even if he joins us, he will be clamouring for a move away to Spain in a few seasons anyways, so why all the bother?

{Ed001's Note - your sample size is a few YouTube clips and about 6 games you said a second ago. Now it is 10? I think I am just going to ignore this conversation, it is pointless. If people think they can judge on 10 games played with completely different teams, then they should be in scouting, as they know better than anyone else.}


2.) 28 Jun 2018 05:55:34
I can see where both Indian and Ed are coming from. My concern is that the only games I have watched him in, the CL semis and the World Cup games, were big games. He hasn't looked great in these games and that's were really top draw keepers stand out, on the biggest stage when they have to be really switched on.
Let's face it, there were games last season when I could have been in goal for us, there was so little to do :) But, when it was really needed, Karius had a shocker I'm sad to say. I also think he had some great games to get us there in the first place though.
Back to the main point, were talking a world record fee for a keeper if Alisson was to come. Does anyone know if he's even interested?

{Ed001's Note - top keepers stand out by being consistently good over the course of a season and pulling off saves that normal keepers would never get to. They do not stand out in international duty, where they are working with defenders they don't know very well. Has no one learnt anything yet from all this judging of players in the World Cups? The attackers are the only ones who stand out as it rewards individual brilliance over teamwork.}


3.) 28 Jun 2018 06:05:49
Despite not being impressed by Alisson against Serbia I’d be happy for us to buy him for £70-£80 million. He has to be an upgrade on Karius and it’s not my money.


4.) 28 Jun 2018 06:34:07
I understand WC fever Ed, and I don't claim to have seen him much, it's just a massive amount of money, granted, not my money.
In agreement with you, let's not forget a few purchases after a youth world cup a few years back, Pongolle and LeTallec anyone?

{Ed001's Note - you can run through a huge list of players who looked great in World Cups but never the same for their clubs.}


5.) 28 Jun 2018 06:50:59
Would you stick with Karius for the First XI, Ed001?
Or give Ward a shot, or what?
And I'm not trying to start a war here, lol.

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea as it would depend on how they perform in pre-season.}


6.) 28 Jun 2018 07:07:57
Fair enough, yes.
An interesting watch for past Liverpool games - Newcastle away, 1971/ 72.
Supermac's debut, scored a hat-trick against us.
Late on Clemence takes a goal kick, miscues horribly, the ball spoons up with spin and goes about 35 yards.
It reaches MacDonald, who can't control the spin but races on to it anyway and beats Clemence to the ball just outside of the area. Clem comes tearing out, Supermac lobs the ball past him and then gets cleaned out Schumacher-style by the Liverpool keeper.
The ball misses the net, I don't think Clemence gets booked even, and Supermac has to be helped off concussed.
Now that's how to do a keeper howler, brilliant.

{Ed001's Note - but would you have signed him after seeing that? ;-)


7.) 28 Jun 2018 07:19:11
Definitely not, bring back the Flying Pig I say haha.

{Ed001's Note - now there was a sweeper keeper!}


8.) 28 Jun 2018 07:42:21
many years ago i was taken to watch Coventry v Stoke. A certain Gordon Banks was in goal and his mere presence between the sticks put the fear of god into the strikers, to the degree that Willie Carr, when presented with a penalty, misssed the goal by a good 2 yards. that's what we need now, a keeper that makes attackers feel they hve to find the corner!


9.) 28 Jun 2018 08:04:19
Oh, and what about El Hadji Diouf after the WC? What a buy he turned out to be. I remember a few commentators stating he was the best transfer we'd ever done at the time.


10.) 28 Jun 2018 08:19:28
Lev Yashin was blamed by his nation and the world for causing them to lose in the 62 quarter finals, he is still the only keeper to win the Balon D'Or and recognised as the greatest keeper of all time for his record not over one match or one tournament.


11.) 28 Jun 2018 08:41:07
To be fair ed we got a good close up of all those saves he made in that cl semi f8nal he was apart of.

Made saves no other keeper would make for sure! Kept Roma well in. Worked with defenders he knew and was outstanding 🤣

Just taking the Mick mate. I know what your saying!


12.) 28 Jun 2018 08:43:30
Quite enjoyed reading this convo on Alisson and keeper situation ed. Your not one that thinks Karius can improve overtime and become the keeper we need and Klopp wants then? I thought was no chance on Alisson, I guess until Madrid sign him there is always a slim chance.

{Ed001's Note - he may do but not with our coaches.}


13.) 28 Jun 2018 08:55:12
Perfect example of this is Mexico GK sensational at most world cups i have seen him play Club level not very good.


14.) 28 Jun 2018 09:16:44
Same with Claudio Bravo and Keylor Navasc Kloppers.


15.) 28 Jun 2018 10:32:02
I'm yet to be convinced on Allison myself. Mainly by him not dominating his area and how he seems to stay on his line on crosses.
However, if you'd never seen DeGea play for United and only watched him in this world cup you'd wonder was everyone else mad in the head for rating him.


16.) 28 Jun 2018 12:53:29
I think you need a season to judge a player. You need to attend games. And when you've seen someone be shaky since they signed and then go throwing the ball to the opposition In a champions league final and blow it all for your team, club and it's fans, then it becomes fair to say, that Karius lad we've got in net is absolute garbage get him sold.


17.) 28 Jun 2018 16:26:48
Of course you can't judge a player on 10 games but, you can usually spot a world class player from a mile off. Alison has never looked world class to me.

70 mil signings that fail can mean the end for the manager. It's too much to risk on a keeper. Oblak would be better but I think we will end up with butland and that's fine with me. We would be harder to beat we ith Jack in the sticks.


 

 

 

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Not sure he adds anything special to our team. Unless we sign a special talent like Pulisic, I would rather we give Wilson a chance next season to challenge our front 3. If we sign any more players, they should either be upgrades on our current players or capable of challenging for first team spots. Thorgan would just be a squad player like Lallana.

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Thought Leicester were also interested in Clyne right? And i hope we get a sale than another loan for every Tom, Dick and Harry in our squad that has no future at the club. Hopefully a BPL side with a 12-15 million pound bid comes in and takes Clyne off our hands.

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24 Jul 2018 08:52:17
The prices Edwards seems to want for these players look absurd though, and it could create several Markovic situations where the interested clubs simply walk away.

Origi - 15 mil
Migs - 12 mil
Markovic, Ojo, Chirivella - 5 mil each
Ings - 10 mil
GRujic - Loan

That's the best we will probably get for these players. And we should take the money if offers are made. 27 million pounds for Origi is just ridiculous, we ain't getting that from anyone so sell for 15 million or so rather than lose him for free next summer. The valuations for fringe players should be realistic.

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Fuming with Barcelona for wanting our best players. They took our two best players (Suarez and Coutinho) and now want the 3rd amigo as well?
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DDG has always been poor for Spain though. First time he has looked clueless for man Utd. He will be gone this summer for sure.

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12 Dec 2018 07:54:21
DDG wants out. Its obvious. The poor guy has been spending his best years playing for Jose and hoping his team qualify for a top6 finish while playing dinosaur football in front of Smalling and JOnes.
He will be gone in the summer unless something drastic changes at Old Trafford. I think the premier league has seen the last of an in form DDG. And Alisson has come at the right time to pick up the pieces and mantle of the best GK in England.

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I think we need Lovren more than Matip specifically against Man Utd courtesy of a certain Mr Fellaini. Lovren's better against physical brutes like Lukaku and Fellaini.
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12 Dec 2018 06:18:38
I was one of the those that wanted Karius to get another season to prove himself coz we were overpaying for a GK who was not a significant improvement on what we had and spent only one good season in Europe.
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09 Dec 2018 14:18:20
Bournemouth have a good team. Burnley on the other hand.

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