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24 Jan 2018 18:33:20
Ed002 hope you are well,
I was reading the posts and we are talking about transfers between Madrid, Barca, top six etc. What will happen to transfers if the breakaway league happens?
Thanks
Matt in FL.

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{Ed002's Note - This was discussed right at the start of the of the process and it is agreed that it will carry on as now - no different to buying a player from outside of UEFA (e.g. Brazil or China).}


1.) 24 Jan 2018 21:00:12
I try not to get carried away when I see Dramatic headlines and you guys have probably been through this so sorry to ask but if there any truth to the article that says we have agreed terms with lemar this evening?

I was superred81 but was finding it hard to login then went and miss spelled lemar, well my phone did. I think this deal would really make up for losing pc. Both for the team and the fans.

{Ed002's Note - The player or his club?


2.) 25 Jan 2018 09:33:28
With FIFA banning players from playing football in their games that move to the breakaway league, how will it affect players been transferred back into teams left within FIFA.

{Ed002's Note - The discusseion a couple of years ago led to the decision that it won't.}


3.) 25 Jan 2018 10:12:31
Ah OK thanks ed.


4.) 25 Jan 2018 15:13:05
Unfortunately it will be the death of football, watching the same teams play each week is not what football was meant to be.


 

 

07 Aug 2017 02:16:01
If Couthino goes, the sun will still rise. I'm interested in the Eds opinion on who will come in as I've read on here a striker. No one is bigger than the club.
Matt in FL.

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{Ed001's Note - I do not know of any striker set to sign.}


1.) 07 Aug 2017 07:32:14
I think it's Barcelona just applying pressure and trying to unsettle Coutinho through the media so he demands a move. If we were to sell him I think I'd lose faith in our owners, especially if nobody exceptional replaces him. I'm still positive about it though. For now.


2.) 07 Aug 2017 07:45:22
Agree I'd be very disappointed with the club.
Klopp said at the end of last season we will be getting new players an now he's saying he's happy with his centre half's! Come on klopp you must be joking mate.


3.) 07 Aug 2017 07:54:31
I think am starting to sway towards eds1 feeling about klopp!


4.) 07 Aug 2017 08:16:55
Fowler, Klopp said he would bring in new players. He did not say which players they were or what positions he was looking to strengthen. If you thought he would bring in the players at the positions that you wanted (CB, for example) and for some reason he did not, you drew that conclusion on your own and nothing else so Klopp is not to blame for you drawing the wrong conclusions.


5.) 07 Aug 2017 08:39:03
I'm a big believer in the FSG model of buying quality young players and developing them into title challengers. Even in today's incredible spending I believe a model like this can compete. Key to it however is keeping the stars once they develop.

I ve been a big supporter of FSG to date but if we sell coutinho regardless of who we buy to replace I believe the model will be dead. I would still be very thankful they came along saved the club, built a bigger stadium and significantly improved the squad. It would be time to go in my opinion if coutinho is sold as they would have taken us as far as they could.

At the moment this is all intense speculation so my support continues until something actually happens.


6.) 07 Aug 2017 09:13:58
Dave that comment has to be contradiction at its finest. You're a big believer in the model but if 1 player is sold then the model is dead 🤔.


7.) 07 Aug 2017 09:29:38
Where's the contradiction? The model is based on developing and keeping the players. If one is sold then the model is not being followed, and is dead. Logic is obviously not a strong skill with some on here.


8.) 07 Aug 2017 09:38:09
Jayden, you are missing the point of Davey's post which I agree with. he is saying that we should be able to keep our best players after we have spent time and money in developing them. Right now, we developed Cou into the player he is today, period. He has also made the effort to improve his game as well and he was a massive player for us last season esp. at the end here where his goals and assists (playing at Stoke while severely ill) that helped get us over the line for CL. He is IMO, our best player due to the immense creative influence he has on our team. If we sell him now, we are a selling club and a feeder club for the RM's, Barca's and Bayern's to come in and take their pick and BOOM goes the model.

{Ed002's Note - It is because he wants to leave and has done for some time. You should understand that Coutinho has been looking for this move for more than a year.}


9.) 07 Aug 2017 09:40:06
How is it a contradiction. Im a believer in the model of buying young and building a quality team. That for me only works if you keep your best players regardless of what's offered.

Yes it is dead if we sell coutinho. Today's it's coutinho, next year it's Mane. Ultimately if good money is on the table we are sellers. Good business but it will not win you titles. Ever.

If Fsg don't sell on continue on the path I hope they are on, then it's all good in my opinion. We continue to build a grow.

I'm not contradicting at all. I'm laying out 2 different scenarios. One a recipe for success. The other a recipe for disaster. The next month will decide.

{Ed002's Note - Players are simply transient employees of the club. If you want them to stay loyal and not move on then look to more local and homegrown players.}


10.) 07 Aug 2017 10:03:43
Davey I've re-read your comment and your 2nd comment and I will happily suck back. I happily admit I misinterpreted your initial comment. My bad. Apologies.


11.) 07 Aug 2017 10:07:06
Funny how ed2 says couts been looking for this move for a year but when Keita wanted to leave his club to join us we are the big bad bogey men . This won't be posted as ed 2 doesn't like the truth.

{Ed002's Note - This is the typical coward that changes his name and writes trash like this. I have explained for more than a year about Coutinho and I have explained before about the illegal approaches Klopp has made in respect of Keita. It seems I might well be the only one who cares about the truth. You find it "funny" as you simply don't understand.}


12.) 07 Aug 2017 10:09:03
Spot on, Davey. If we allow Cou's shananigans to go and let him have his wish, then we are screwed as any other player will do the exact same thing to us and then it becomes untenable.


13.) 07 Aug 2017 10:21:06
I get what you are saying Ed but if Man United, Chelsea, Manchester City had liverpools position of a star player on a 5 year contract and reasonably happy they would not sell. Coutinho s head is turned I have no doubt but he can easily be brought back onside. He s lived in liverpool long enough a it cannot simply be the case Barcelona come calling and it's no longer a place of work he can accept.

Costa situation and suarez situations are different. They are untenable positions. This isn't that. The club has to show strength here.

I don't see real madrid selling Ronaldo during his unhappy times.

FSG are at a major crossroads and have a decision to make.

Ultimately coutinho is not the important part of this decision. Like you say he is a transient employee who will leave someday. However the decision to sell a top player under five year contract who has spent years at the club is the key to it. Do we as a club sell players in this position?

If we do this then there is no sustainable model in place to become genuine title challengers.

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has come calling because for more than a year Coutinho has been trying to find a way to make the move Davey.}


14.) 07 Aug 2017 10:45:49
Anyone remember when we sold the young, talented Michael Owen and then next year won the Champions League with possibly the worst squad ever to win the competition?

(Granted we did have Stevie G to thank for most of it. )


15.) 07 Aug 2017 11:06:23
Ed fair enough he's wanted, and being looking for the move for over a year! Was the signing of the contract just to guarantee getting the highest fee possible.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea why he signed the contract - probably pressured in to doing it. But the club has known all along about his discussions with the three international colleagues and his agent courting Barcelona.}


16.) 07 Aug 2017 11:08:49
Regardless of them looking for an out the board managed to tie him to a contract during that time. We have to think long term with the decision made on this one because the implications for liverpool a far far greater than selling a player.

Well I could argue the point all day but the kids are pestering me to take them to the park. Take care Ed.


17.) 07 Aug 2017 13:34:02
It has been known for a long time that Coutinho's dream club was Barcelona.

So now Barcelona have come calling, and he wants to go.

Exactly how is that FSG's fault?

Maybe FSG are also to blame for problems in the Middle East, not to mention North Korea?


 

 

30 May 2017 01:23:36
Ed's, with Tuchel in Dortmund possibly leaving does that rekindle interest in Pulisic from Klopp? And if you could indulge, what went wrong for Tuchel?

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{Ed001's Note - Tuchel was not in charge of transfers at Dortmund. This is not the really the place for the Tuchel thing, but he fell out with the people above him due to his inability to agree with them on almost anything and his constant tinkering.}


 

 

 

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25 May 2018 02:43:12
Wanted to share with you all, I just found out my better half is expecting our Third LFC supporter.
The only way my life could get better is if we are up 4 nil by the 33 minute Saturday.
Wish me and the team best of luck.
Looking forward to Saturday
Matt in FL.

420FL

1.) 25 May 2018 06:42:02
Congrats mate!


2.) 25 May 2018 06:58:37
Fantastic news mate.


3.) 25 May 2018 08:02:30
You should've said mate. I've got one for sale. 17 months old. Hobbies include staining carpets with black currant, ripping wallpaper off of his bedroom wall, throwing his mum's £500 Samsung down the toilet, ripping apart a wicker washing basket, breaking his DVD player by ripping it out from under the TV by the cable, and rubbing peanut butter into his parents fresh linen - in the last week.

I'd have taken a Greggs Sausage roll to be honest.


4.) 25 May 2018 09:05:09
Huge congratulations to you and your family mate, great news :) .

{Ed001's Note - agreed, congrats 420, hope it all goes smoothly for your missus over the next few months.}


5.) 25 May 2018 09:10:14
Congrats mate and heres to hoping its one of those games when we are 3 or 4 nil up by half time otherwise I my heart might not hold out.


6.) 25 May 2018 09:13:04
Oh MK, very funny. Don't throw in the towel just yet, our 25 year old has just paid off the last 5 years of our mortgage. They CAN pay for themselves in the long run 😁.


 

 

16 May 2018 02:07:28
Ed025 if you are about, Been on the Everton page and a lot of Blues want Rafa. Im curious of your opinion, and how you feel about his connection with LFC.
I for one think he is a fantastic manager, but at the same time can't see him going to Everton simply as he loves LFC.
And look I am really not trying to be a smartass but is Everton that much better than the Toon? I honestly do not know

PS. Nice to have MK about again
Cheers all
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed025's Note - the clubs are very similar i would say matt, as a manager i think rafa is very good but cant see him at everton after his jibe about them being a "small club" and his links with liverpool mate..


1.) 16 May 2018 06:20:24
Marco Silva to Everton
Artefacts would have been a decent choice but he is Arsenal bound by the looks of things.
No way is Rafa going to end up at Everton!


2.) 16 May 2018 07:39:02
Artefacts would probably manage a more modern brand of football than Big Sam.


3.) 16 May 2018 08:24:01
what artefacts are we talking about? :P.


4.) 16 May 2018 08:56:05
Glad you think so mate. I've always wanted to know where my one thumbs up comes from 😉

Just needed a week away to focus on the more important things in life mate. I was still lurking sporadically!


5.) 16 May 2018 09:31:39
Would kill me seeing Rafa at United or Everton.


6.) 16 May 2018 09:45:17
Artefacts? Someone been watching Warehouse 13?


 

 

13 May 2018 01:18:16
Hello all,
I am happy to say that I got tickets to the preseason against BVB in Charlotte. Any fellow reds going to be there and wanna grab a pint?
As for tomorrow I feel great about top 4.and am quietly optimistic for Kiev. Such a great team to support this club.
Cheers all.

Special shout to Ed 002, you are my second man crush
Matt in FL.

420FL

1.) 13 May 2018 06:59:57
Is your first man crush Fernando Torres? I expect he’s everyone’s first man crush. Cos he looks like a girl.


 

 

06 May 2018 01:37:05
Can you not insult all Americans. Hicks and Gillette were asses. The current American owners are not


Also goes to show that there are more important things than sport, God bless Sir Alex.
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed0333's Note - hey am I missing something?


 

 

30 Jan 2018 03:40:57
So is it me or have the club lost twice in twenty? They are only human. Sure the games were poor, but that doesn't translate that they all suck, the season is lost etc. I for one am excited to see the season finish and let the games play out. Remember this is one of the ways we choose to entertain ourselves.

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1.) 30 Jan 2018 05:11:27
Yes i agree. I hope it is just a blip. Nothing more. The team have been doing great. Dishing out win on games we usually draw last season. The boys just need to get back their confidence. And not afraid to try moving the ball forward and faster. We have enough talent in the team to finish this season. Just want to see them not being afraid to attack, to push forward with pace. YNWA.


2.) 30 Jan 2018 07:06:42
Depends which way you look at it. We've also lost 2 in 2 against the bottom pair in the prem.


3.) 30 Jan 2018 07:37:48
We’ve lost three league games and drawn eight and of those games only the Chelsea and Arsenal matches we came out of it with any credit.


4.) 30 Jan 2018 08:37:29
Dennis, any chance of posting that at the top of the page, the way some go on here you’d think we won 18 of the last 20 and lost two. There’s a bag full of very poor draws in their too.


5.) 30 Jan 2018 08:57:36
I'm with you there 420, yeah a couple of bad results, obviously terrible performances but it is what it is, it's just one of them times where things didn't go as we planned. I'm not overly worried about it but we do need to win tonight, no draw, no loss we need a win now and I think we'll get it.


6.) 30 Jan 2018 09:29:56
So much negativity. We have lost just 3 league games and in the last 16 of the champions league. We haven't got money to throw about like the 2 Manchester clubs. Yes it would be great if could strengthen in a couple of areas but sometimes players go off the boil a little. Interesting set of games over the next month for the top 6.
Personally I still thing we will finish top 4 and get to the the last 8 of CL when anything then is possible.


7.) 30 Jan 2018 12:48:28
Errm too many draws when we should have won, too many games when we havnt turned up, tuening up against city and nearly throwing it away is usual for us as is not turning up against lower sides, and im sorry but not addressing the totally poor goalkeeping situation when the whole world can see we're desperate is negligent.
Lets hope we get 3 points as we need them right now.


8.) 30 Jan 2018 13:09:29
We've lost twice in 20. Or twice in two. Or 6 in 39. There are lots of ways of looking at it, but to me the simplest is that we have Jurgen Klopp as our manager and he makes the final call on transfers, so either trust him to use what we do have to the best of their ability which is easily enough for top 4 or don't and call for him to go.


 

 

 

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26 Aug 2017 00:26:53
How old is Ox? Why don't people think he can improve. Why does everyone slag off any player before they kick a ball for the club, let alone get a season it dare I say 2.

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26 Aug 2017 00:23:38
Mr Dennis Klavan is a decent squad player. If you would have said Caulker.

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24 Aug 2017 02:42:04
Mignolet is not a problem. The team is going to concede and he is not at fault all the time. Our keepers as a group are strong, competition for the job should make them all better.
FFS support the players.
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed001's Note - Migs clearly is a problem, he has reverted back to being dodgy again. We are going to have to revisit that position before he starts costing us games again.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2017 17:57:41
LFCOHIO completely disagree about Gini. He keeps our midfield ticking, runs his ass off, contributes goals and assists. This was his first year with the club. What more does he have to show? I feel he will be vital to the club moving forward. Kind of like Lallana, I see Gini improving this year and next.
Just my opinion
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25 Jun 2017 15:19:03
I've been reading every window how we need a Marquee signing, splash the cash etc. If the club feel VVD is right for the money then quit fing off and sign him. And if he does come get behind him and don'moan the first mistake he makes
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23 May 2018 03:41:09
Greater Orlando area gents. First rounds on me.

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21 May 2018 02:30:26
Ed025, 001, 002 and old school Blair Maybe. Or anyone wearing the shirt. Come on Saturday.
Matt in FL

I'd love to meet any of you personally.

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19 May 2018 16:54:04
Good for him being in to BBC.

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14 May 2018 00:23:10
Macca
True legend mate. Glad to hear from you.
Cheers.

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04 Apr 2018 03:10:37
I watched both games today. Im not arguing LFC is better than the likes of Bayern, Real, Barca, etc. But by no means should the team be frightened of playing any of them. They are more than a match, and our style of play would give all of them fits. Win lose or draw with City and I will savor every minute. You all realize it has been ten years since we have been here. Not to mention history is with us against City.
YNWA
Matt in FL.

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