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14 May 2017 11:48:50
So Luan, Robertson and Kjaer today then?

I like Robertson and have been suggesting him since January so happy there. I have only seen clips of Luan so I'll reserve judgement (as the clips were underwhelming to say the least) . However I really hope Kjaer rumours are fabricated. He is an okay player, but I don't believe he is an upgrade on Lovren or Matip.

MK Scouser

1.) 14 May 2017 11:53:51
We are not signing a CB this summer according to the Eds. Kjaer is a completely fabricated rumor by desperate papers. Luan also pretty sure won't happen. Robertson probably will be the LB we sign.


2.) 14 May 2017 16:50:25
Whata the point in getting hMions league if qe sign robertson. Not even good ebough for hull.

Nees a better lb than that.

{Ed002's Note - If Gomez were to leave then Liverpool will look to add a centre back. Robertson is a player that Liverpool are looking to buy. Simon Kjaer is likely heading to the South of France (if an issuette can be resolved). Luan is of interest but his ownership needs untangling.}


3.) 14 May 2017 17:42:01
Thanks Ed2. Without yours and Ed1's knowledge we'd all almost certainly be lost. ☺.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Nick.}


4.) 14 May 2017 18:33:27
Shame. No lb fix then.

How are yoy going to improve when you buy players like that.

Listen i know support and don't trash but he's just not good enough in any sense of the word.

The money city and united will spend his summer will see them add aboht 150 mil of quality each. Chelsea and arsenal. Totteham i don't know about with the new stadium.

But we have to buy better than that.

Ed001 has done notbing buy rave avout sessegnon and tierney. Celtic and fulham, they are very attainable.

Robertson has to be one of the last choicea rather leave it.

You all will have a go at me but this is why we have never won the premier league. Simple. Signing no better than what's in the team or academy.

Should only wver sign better than what you have.

Robertson better than gomez, milner or even moreno at lb? Nopes.


5.) 14 May 2017 18:44:51
If Luan is the same Luan as played for Brazil at the Olympics, he's a lively kid with some ability. But no idea what he's been up to in the past year and of course, Olympics football isn't a joke but it's not the Premier League.


6.) 14 May 2017 19:16:20
Not all players cost 100 million mind. sometimes you need to spot something in a player and have some balls to take the gamble.


7.) 14 May 2017 20:01:35
Buying part of a defence that shipped in 67 goals so far this season is certainly a gamble, especially when his stats are far worse than Milner and he's only been ok. I just don't see the positives in Robinson. Average defending, average attacking ability. If that's the best we can do then God help us. We need quality not another Klavan.


8.) 14 May 2017 20:07:09
Robertson was subbed today in hulls biggest game of the season at half time after getting roasted, if this is true it's utterly embarrassing.


9.) 14 May 2017 20:26:26
LI've we did with Deli Alli 😀.


10.) 14 May 2017 20:49:52
Like pennant, babel, bellamy, johnson, skrtel, voronin, aspas, alberto, ballotelli, poulsen, konchesky, dossena, adam, diouf, diao, jovanovic, cheyrou, pongolle, cole, traore, cissokho, sahin, ngog, borini, xavier, nunez, allen, kyriarkos, lambert, markovic, moreno, insua, kromkamp, josemi, barragan, el zhar, klavan, degen, assaidi, yesil, manquillo, bogdan, jones, merieles, benteke, downing, carroll, enrique (ANOTHER LB), coates,

A few next henrys and gerrards in there.

6 lbs

Atleast 8 of them signed after qualifying for the champions leage the year before and finishing 2nd

No premier leages for us after.

I guarentee i could search all those namea on here and archives permitted the post will be "going to be world class" "drop x player he's better" "sell him we have our replacement anyway".

There all run of the mill players ans that's how you stay a run of the mill team.

Yoy have to buy the best to be the best or atleast better than what you have.

Itz about raising expectation in the club. Alaba should be the target and why not, aim for an a and youll get a b. Aim for a c and well, no premier league tropheys tells you.

Hate not every player costs millions, well atleast 80% do and they get you titles and trophys.
You only say that to justify signing bad players.

Btw bellamy was a hit his second time around.


11.) 14 May 2017 22:24:02
Is there any chance we could buy be looking to buy two left backs this summer? Robertson might make an ok backup but I'd be disappointed to see him brought in as first choice.

This would mean Moreno leaving, of course.

Robertson against the likes of Messi, Dybala etc in the Champions League could be very embarrassing.


 

 

04 May 2017 14:17:44
Ed001 you have said we are looking at right backs and have been since last summer.

However the Sharkopod only referenced left backs, and Pereira who can play on both sides.

Is it basically Pereira or nobody? Or are there other targets you haven't mentioned. Perhaps even the chance of signing 2 left backs and moving Milner to right back?

Just curious as there is a good chance Arnold's long term future is in midfield or out wide. So if Clyne was replaced it would need to be a player for the immediate future and preferably long term.

Sorry if it has been answered but I can find nothing on the boards or the sharkopods.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Pereira is a right back who can play left. He is the main target for right back, with TAA and Milner as cover. The priority is left back this summer, right back is seen as secondary. I really do not know of any other option right now for the right back berth. I will ask and see if it is a bit like Chilwell last season or if there are others being scouted.}


1.) 04 May 2017 14:32:19
Does this mean Clyne's being pushed out? RB is a position we can improve significantly by replacing Clyne with Periera.
The link up between Periera and Mane will be deadly.

{Ed001's Note - yes, we are looking to replace Clyne.}


2.) 04 May 2017 14:38:38
Ed001, with the situation you described at right back is it likely that we'll see Clyne move on?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


3.) 04 May 2017 15:10:49
Great news, feel for clyne as he at least puts the effort in unlike others but he's really not suited to the team.


4.) 04 May 2017 15:23:17
I think I am right in saying ed002 said he doubts pereira will move to us. So there must be more we are looking at.


5.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?


6.) 04 May 2017 15:15:25
Ed001,any clubs interested in Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of much interest right now mate.}


7.) 04 May 2017 15:17:53
Hey ed01, hope you are having a good day!

A question in a similar vein - we are being strongly linked to recruitements in CB and CM, which is kind of understandable with european footie coming next season. Now, it is by no means certain that new players will arrive in those positions, but IF that happens, which members of the current squad would in your opinion be most in danger of being dropped to the bench, or moved on? of course, best case scenario will just see increased competition and rotation, and starters being selected on merit, but I am very curious what the current hierarchy is, so to say.

Cheers!

{Ed001's Note - I do not expect a centre back to arrive this summer, if one did, it would probably be a bad sign for Gomez though.

As for CM, it is likely that Lucas would be leaving.}


8.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?

{Ed001's Note - not yet, but the clubs likely to be interested are those in the lower half of the Prem. If I had to put money on it though, it would be on a return to Palace.}


9.) 04 May 2017 16:02:50
Clyne likely to leav this summer then ed? didn't see that coming mate.

{Ed001's Note - possibly. Even probably.}


10.) 04 May 2017 16:22:39
Its is a pity Klopp couldn't convince his fellow countyman Lahm into not retiring at the end of the season and bring him in on a free for a season or two. He can cover left back, right back and the central midfield position that would be left by Lucas, plus a whole lot of experience. there isn't much he hasn't won.

I know he is 33 now, but so is Dani Alves and watching him play top flight CL football last night you wouldn't think so, set up both of Higuains goals too

Just a thought, Jurgen.


11.) 04 May 2017 16:52:31
Cheers ed

Has him leaving always been the plan then or has it developed recently?

{Ed001's Note - we tried to replace him last summer.}


12.) 04 May 2017 16:52:49
Leaving this summer Ed mate? Didn't know that Klopp is that discontent with Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - why? We had told you last summer the club were looking for a right back.}


13.) 04 May 2017 17:18:36
What is it in Clynes game that Klopp doesn't like?

{Ed001's Note - because he is not good enough.}


14.) 04 May 2017 17:42:32
Peirera likely ed?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}


15.) 04 May 2017 17:46:36
Right mate, cheers! Is Pereira better?

{Ed001's Note - my mother is better.}


16.) 04 May 2017 17:58:29
Ed 1 that's the best reply I've ever seen on here.

{Ed001's Note - many a true word spoken in jest.....}


17.) 04 May 2017 18:04:09
Haha that's harsh 😂.

{Ed001's Note - harsh but true. I can tell which players are particularly bad thanks to the missus, who hasn't a clue about football, but counts the number of times I swear at a particular player for doing something wrong. She has had to get an abacus to keep track of Clyne's mistakes......}


18.) 04 May 2017 18:07:50
are we interested in her then ed lol.

{Ed001's Note - funny you should say that, she is currently in the process of moving back to the UK just in case.}


19.) 04 May 2017 18:08:57
Nice response to Scouserseb lol people who rate Clyne really do grind my gears, he's bang average in nearly every department. Really disappointed that you say we aren't looking for a CB though Ed, the defensive problems will continue as long as Lovren is first choice.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to give Gomez a chance to develop into first choice over the season. You can't change fullbacks and centre backs in one summer, so it has to be a bit by bit job. With a bit of luck, Gomez will mean we do not need to worry next summer either.}


20.) 04 May 2017 18:20:19
Thanks for all the replies Ed001. You are a star!

{Ed001's Note - aww thanks. I am blushing now!}


21.) 04 May 2017 18:20:23
Ed001 is spot on regarding Clyne, I did mention not long ago that Klopp wants TAA in the team next season so that could spell the end for him.


22.) 04 May 2017 19:02:25
Palace fans I know don't rate him either and may not want him back.


23.) 04 May 2017 19:21:27
Surely West Ham would be interested. Have barely played a real RB all season. Clearly bilic doesn't rate byram, tho I suppose bilic may be off anyway.


24.) 04 May 2017 19:27:18
Hey edd may I ask if your back together is the wedding back on. Very happy for you if it getting married maybe we can do a whip around and get you a present big love xx.


25.) 04 May 2017 21:44:45
We aren't getting married now Walter. I pulled the plug because he kept accusing me of being after half of his Dubai apartment. I mean sure it had a pretty decent view, but I'm not like that. I only got it valued in secret because I was curious.

{Ed001's Note - if I owned an apartment that would be a good idea MKS.

nrw - no mate, I was just kidding about the missus counting my swearing.}


26.) 04 May 2017 22:55:31
Ahh bless as long as all the edds and posters are happy and healthy.


27.) 05 May 2017 06:24:29
I'm not convinced by all this. If Klopp wasn't keen on Clyne then TAA would be playing. Most of these rumours are rubbish.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise that TAA is not ready this season and is being eased in gradually right? The rubbish is you thinking Couts would be on the bench when Barca's midfield has been on the wane for years and is why they are struggling this season.}


28.) 05 May 2017 10:50:45
If we do not find a RB this summer, will TAA be the starting RB next season? And if we are also unable to offload Clyne, will TAA still be ahead of him?


29.) 05 May 2017 11:27:47
Adding to the fire here, I was told by a friend in January, a business partner of Ryan Bertrand, that Clyne himself was looking to leave, and that Southampton would be looking at Sturridge this summer.

I then asked how much they're going to charge us for Sturridge. I'm thinking at least £40m based on recent deals.

I'll get my coat.

Top bit is true, though - Clyne wants to move back down south.


30.) 05 May 2017 17:54:35
Ed001, so matip with Gomez as maybe first choice, lovren covering. If Lucas leaves, do you think klavan will stay? I know he's just arrived this season, but I'd rather keep Lucas as cover for both and move on klavan?

{Ed001's Note - Klavan is staying anyway, he is back up only.}


31.) 07 May 2017 10:58:49
Honestly don't think Klopp fancies Joe Gomez anymore, last year found minutes for Ojo, Stewart, in the first part of this season both underwhelmed when given some minutes, haven't been heard of since, but Woodburn and TAA found some minutes with some lively performances or cameos given a chance, even with the injuries at the position, Klopp has chosen Lucas over him.


 

 

10 Mar 2017 19:39:21
Not sure on the Chamberlain rumours.

He is clearly a very talented player and seems to be one of the more passionate Arsenal players. He was the only guy who turned up against Bayern. He is very versatile able to play basically any role in our team ahead of Henderson. At only 23 it is very typical of English football that he has already been written off. He has sublime technical ability, great balance and can produce moments of magic on rare ocacssions.

However, there are clearly some things to worry about. His end product for one is truly terrible at times. He can go past 4 or 5 players and then put his cross on the roof of the net! Frustrating is an understatement. What truly gets alarm bells ringing though has to be his injury record. He is out for about half of every season, normally.

Torn on this rumour. To be fair he is allegedly a Liverpool fan and very good friends with Henderson so maybe it makes sense if Can and Milner leave. He could be a versatile impact sub in their place. You have to wonder if it is worth the risk though. Milner although being 8 years older is arguably just as good and can additionally cover both full back positions, but just as importantly is never injured. I'm sure this rumour will split opinion, but I am undecided for now.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.


2.) 10 Mar 2017 21:18:52
He's not good enough and injury prone.


3.) 10 Mar 2017 22:07:29
There are better options out there.


4.) 10 Mar 2017 22:14:18
Oxs would be perfect for us he could play in the Lallana role of outwide but I don't know if he gets in the team.


5.) 10 Mar 2017 22:23:06
His attitude on the pitch is sublime, just what every fan wants to see, maybe not the big money game changing signing but I'm not sure that's klopps philosophy. He is the type of player that lifts people around him and that's priceless. If klopp worked with him I'd imagine ox is the type of player that would go to war for JK. Could be an inspired signing.


6.) 10 Mar 2017 22:15:59
MK the amount of times Klopp has left me with egg on my face and eating humble pie Im getting sick of the stuff lol. I wouldn't judge any decision of Klopps until a fair assessment can be made. If Klopp feels he can work with Gotze again, if Klopp thinks he can better manage the Ox I'll reserve my judgement until after a season or two. All this pie and i don't even like pastry :-P.


7.) 10 Mar 2017 22:16:59
How can you say he is "not good enough" though? He is 23 years old and has never had a chance to progress due to injuries. At 23 years old most people wanted Carragher sold. At 23 years old Sturridge had been rejected by Man City and Chelsea.

Chamberlain is a very talented player, with a lot of potential. The gamble is not whether he is good enough, it is whether he can finally stay fit and find consistency. Both of which are fairly related.

I have no doubt that on his game, 100% fit he is good enough for our team. How often will that happen though? That is the real question here.


8.) 10 Mar 2017 22:19:00
Maybe I'm watching a different player but Oxlade is a bang average player. Hasn't got electric pace enough to be a threat out wide, his delivery is poor and hasn't the guile to be a number 10 and he lacks the intelligence and physical attributes to play in centre midfield. He can go to City, Chelsea or United as far as I'm concerned.


9.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:31
We don't need another running midfielder MK. We have it in with Wiji and Lallana. We need a deep lying midfielder.


10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:48
He's still a young lad.
Best is yet to come from him.


11.) 10 Mar 2017 23:10:11
His attitude stinks. Remember that little strop he threw on the field in the first leg against Bayern? Sorry but I only want players who are fully committed, with a good attitude and will not strop on the field.


12.) 11 Mar 2017 01:14:11
Not for me thanks.


13.) 11 Mar 2017 01:22:10
Da Red man that strop showed nothing but his commitment. He tried to close down 3 passes with no help from the rest of team who had given up.

Don't think we need him though.


14.) 11 Mar 2017 01:27:39
Daredman you know why he did that because no one was trying to get the bull back with him . Oxs would be a good signing there's a player in him it just needs to be unlock.

I remember people saying hendo and Lallana are bang average look at them now.

People did not what mane because of his attitude and have we seen anything bad from mane

And if you let him go to a rival and do well you look really silly.

Have we got a replace for Lallana because I have not seen one in are team . Gini naver like him

I'm not saying he should be a top target but if you can get him for 15-20mil you can't go wrong.


15.) 11 Mar 2017 01:28:19
Would rather some of our youngsters get a chance than injury prone new signings.


16.) 11 Mar 2017 09:28:48
Problem is can he stay fit?

How does he stay fot in a klopp team thag works harder than almost any other?


17.) 11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.


18.) 11 Mar 2017 15:19:04
You lost me at "ahead of Henderson" Pure nonsense that!

You then further lost me by then saying he could be a "versatile impact sub"!

Contradicting much?

He'd pad out the squad giving us another option off the bench but he's no starter.


19.) 11 Mar 2017 15:59:43
I look at it this way: Is he going to improve our first team? No. Is he going to start ahead of our first choice 11? No. At Arsenal, he has been played wide and in a central role, so not a specialist but bit of a squad player (potential or not) .

Add his injury issues, and that fact that he is English (over-hyped and over-priced), and it looks like a transfer we probably should avoid.


20.) 11 Mar 2017 17:18:36
That's a good argument Seano. I cannot say I disagree.


21.) 11 Mar 2017 21:25:20
Mind bender I think you misread my post. I mean he can play in any position further forward than defensive midfield. Not instead of Henderson. Hence my suggestion that he could be versatile cover or an impact player.

AG I would say that when fit and on form he would be knocking on the door to start ahead of Lallana. That is why I am querying his fitness and consistency though because it is so unreliable. I'm only instigating a debate buddy. Like I say, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject. I don't think he would be the worst signing but as you rightly point out, him being English will inflate his price; even with only a year on his contract. So there is probably better value elsewhere.

Somebody else used the phrase already, but Chamberlain is the personification of a gamble.


22.) 12 Mar 2017 11:51:21
Think Chamberlain would be a very shrewd signing and would probe a lot of people wrong.


23.) 12 Mar 2017 16:46:19
Chamberlain just isn't worth wasting the money on. If it wasn't for the fact he was English he wouldn't even be a £10 million player. We would be better off signing Brandt as he's got more potential and even now is a far superior footballer. If it's simply a matter of choosing a winger because he's 'English', we may as well do our annual trip to Southampton and buy Redmond.


24.) 13 Mar 2017 17:42:52
He wants to play te box to box role, he actually had a very good run at it whenFlamini was't good enough after re signing for Arsenal, and coquelin was out. He didn't show enough for me then to suggest he'd make it. He's a wide player for Asernal when most ohters are fit, and atm, he's been overtaken by Iwobi. I said before if we're getting an arsenal player for a central role, I'd rather it be Ramsey wo for me is much more accomplished.


 

 

01 Mar 2017 18:47:55
There are rumours about now that we will try and sign Francesco Cassata in the summer. He is by all accounts a great young midfielder but that's all I know of him.

MK Scouser

 

 

26 Feb 2017 09:58:02
Helder Costa is apparently of interest. He fits the profile; fast left winger with a good goal return.

He tore us to pieces earlier in the season and has been directly involved in 18 goals this season for a struggling Wolves side (20th in the Championship) .

What are peoples thoughts on him? At 23 years old he is probably more first team ready than the likes of Brandt or Malcom. Plus he is already settled into England and English football so could probably hit the ground running.

It all looks good on paper, but I have only seen him play 3 times so not really got a lot in the way of seeing him play to make a judgement.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - I have watched him a few times now and he does not impress me. Great ability on the ball, but chooses the wrong option every single time. One of those head down and run until it gets taken off him or he launches it into row Z. Then he will get the ball right once and it is a goal. So he is capable. Reminds me a little of a slower but more skilful Aaron Lennon to be honest.}


1.) 26 Feb 2017 10:29:15
Got to say Ed, I watched his highlight reels shortly after posting this and my exact thought was "this guy is like the Portuguese Sterling". He looked so hell bent on not releasing the ball and that is just his 'best' bits!

If this mornings rumours are true we are interested in him as a summer signing. As good as he was at Anfield, after watching his highlights and hearing your opinion I am not overly optimistic!

{Ed001's Note - I have made a point of watching Wolves in recent weeks as quite a few people were looking at him, I would not be keen on him at the cost he would be. Plus his agent, Mendes. Seems a nice guy in person, but he is a proper superagent that knows how to maximise his players' earning potential. Not the kind of man you want to deal with, as you will not win in a deal like that.}


2.) 26 Feb 2017 10:53:57
Do we gave interest then ed?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, it wasn't our interest that made me take a look, it was Everton's, as they were taking a long look at him prior to the January window.}


3.) 26 Feb 2017 11:08:49
If we actually wanted to sign him, wouldn't it have been better to deal directly with Benfica before he made his move permanent to Wolves last month?

{Ed001's Note - yep.}


4.) 26 Feb 2017 13:10:25
While U've been watching wolves ed how has Conor coady been doing?

{Ed001's Note - ok, he has been moved to right back and does well there. Some of his crossing has been excellent, though wasted as Lambert doesn't exactly overload the box. Not done too badly defensively either. Could do with better players alongside him in defence though, their centre halves are abysmal.}


5.) 26 Feb 2017 15:06:25
Ive watched him a lot this season as i go to the home games when i can and in my opinion he is not good enough for us especially at the high price wolves would want i think he should stay at wolves until end of next season and than if he continues to improve he will get a big move.


6.) 27 Feb 2017 06:44:54
Tearing our defence to pieces do not mean you're good enough to tear proper defences to pieces.


7.) 27 Feb 2017 20:12:09
Ron,
Nearly wet myself at that reply.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2017 20:01:38
PSG want to sign Coutinho so badly, they are going to pay nearly £200m for Neymar so he can be used to tap him up on international duty!

MK Scouser

1.) 18 Jul 2017 20:15:21
I have a feeling Barcelona losing Neymar could maybe make Barcelona make a push to sign Coutinho now?


2.) 18 Jul 2017 20:17:46
PSG buying Neymar is a good thing for us! They get Neymar, while Barcelona get the money to buy Verratti ( their first choice ) and Coutinho stays!


3.) 18 Jul 2017 20:21:15
Had me in stitches there, MK.


4.) 18 Jul 2017 20:38:59
FYI,

Barcelona's first choice target is MARCO VERRATTI.


5.) 18 Jul 2017 21:07:17
Cheers Naby! Seems you altered your incorrectly spelt name for us all too.


6.) 18 Jul 2017 21:12:15
@Welsh

Did you like Ding Dong?


7.) 18 Jul 2017 21:30:01
Brussels, I think sarcasm is dead in the modern world 😂.


8.) 18 Jul 2017 21:41:59
The Neymar transfer is gathering a lot of pace I can see that going through so that might mean the end to Couts.


9.) 18 Jul 2017 21:55:40
Neymar is going nowhere.


10.) 18 Jul 2017 22:24:01
As a front three I don't see them start Messi Suarez and one of the players they currently have. I think they will be buy big for a winger - I don't think they see couts as a winger though.
Find it odd they sell Neymar though, as he is going to improve and the other two decline, now would be the time to cash in.


 

 

15 Jul 2017 22:23:10
Eds can you just hurry up and #AnnounceKeita and #AnnonceRobertson

Tired of this now.

MK Scouser

1.) 15 Jul 2017 22:54:09
Yeah I reckon Robertson will be anyday now, hopefully anyway. Kieta I can see been dragged out a bit but hopefully not.


2.) 15 Jul 2017 23:17:26
Come on mate. Robertson hasn't even signed and your calling him a nonce? Not cool man. Not cool.


3.) 15 Jul 2017 23:47:40
Haha, cracker slowdog! Dunno who thumbed down your comment but they have no sense of humour 😂.


4.) 16 Jul 2017 00:14:38
Brilliant slowdog lol.


5.) 16 Jul 2017 01:22:13
You're quite quick for a slowdog! 😂.


6.) 16 Jul 2017 04:15:04
Hull are trying to get player on loan and there are a lot of negotiations need sorting out first. Kent was not the first player they asked about. They would happily take Ojo and Ejaria.


 

 

08 Jul 2017 09:46:20
Ed001, I saw you mention below about vile bosses etc. Just got me thinking really.

So i wanted to take this opportunity to thank Ed033, Ed025, Ed007 and especially the unpaid Ed002. It can't be easy working for/ with Ed001 😉

You work long hours, get abused by your customers, paid a pittance, and it is clearly all Ed001's fault 😂

(all meant in jest of course 001)

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - you do have a point. I have no idea how they put up with it. Still, at least putting up with me makes dealing with you lot seem easier.....}


1.) 08 Jul 2017 10:14:11
Haha, in all seriousness, massive respect to all of you. Good luck for the next 8 weeks! I'm sure you'll be driven mad with repeat questions. Oh, any news on the VVD deal? 😂.

{Ed001's Note - hahahaha. Git! I have grown to dread the transfer windows to be honest. I miss the days when transfers could just take place any time and there was none of this hysteria.}


2.) 08 Jul 2017 10:37:33
Tbf these days are much better than 3-4 years back when no one had an account and people could just whatever tripe they wanted.
And you know you love putting up with us Ed001. Don't pretend.

{Ed001's Note - something like that Reet. Though you are right, it is much better with the accounts.}


3.) 08 Jul 2017 10:43:17
Hysteria? What hysteria?

#KeitaAnnounced.

{Ed001's Note - arrrrggggghhhhhhhhh.}


4.) 08 Jul 2017 10:52:35
The only Ed, Ed01 fears is Ed025 ( true legend ) 😄😄.

{Ed025's Note - he will be running scared next season IYKM, when the blue boys go marching on and once again claim their birthright of being the one and only true force on merseyside mate.. :)


5.) 08 Jul 2017 11:43:16
ED 25.
I know they have signed Jack Dunn but I think your expecting a bit too much of Tranmere.

Get A grip! 🤤.

{Ed025's Note - now now dermot you know we are the "peoples club" mate and i know you are scared...but you had your day in the 80,s and i know it will probably be 2080 before you challenge again but you should be applauding us for carrying the flag for merseyside..


6.) 08 Jul 2017 13:18:41
I have to say, i don't know how the Ed's do it! I know i couldnt, well not without a bottle of brandy in my hand and an unbreakable laptop.


7.) 08 Jul 2017 14:50:16
Everton certainly did reflect British life in the 80 ED.

The Tuffees then striker and present day coach thought Saturday night started at 3pm. Out and about tearing around and if he didn't get his way he'd finish off with a tear up, break the od jaw and be done for assault.

Definitely the peoples club.

Not to be outdone but later in time we bought a cannibal/ pitball,

Now that's a tear up to rival Mcgregor v Mayweather.


8.) 08 Jul 2017 20:35:05
Carrying the flag of perennial failure and mediocrity, more like it. There, fixed it for ya, Ed025.


 

 

30 Jun 2017 09:06:21
When the cost of replica shirts hits £200, a season ticket exceeds £2000 and your sports TV channels cost £100 a month, I just want everyone to remember this window where they demanded their football clubs become completely unsustainable and pay ridiculous fees and wages on players, because 'it wasn't their money'. Not just LFC fans, but Premier League fans.

I actually worry about football. It's going too far. When the bubble bursts, only the top clubs who get their pan break away league move, and the sensible clubs who spent within their means will survive. We better hope we are in one of those categories when the time comes because we are not right now.

I do not begrudge anyone an opinion, but any of you demanding we spend £70m on this or that player, have no rights to complain when your match day cost goes up. You want Liverpool to spend more, then be prepared to pay more in one way or another. If you fail to understand that blatant correlation, then I fear for you.

MK Scouser

1.) 30 Jun 2017 09:18:25
Agree. When I saw the length of the post and heard the tone of the message, I knew it was you MK.


2.) 30 Jun 2017 09:22:22
I'm not sure what you want from fans MK? Do you want us all to criticise the club for spending money and prefer us to opt out of signing players and slide down the league on principle?

Ideally I'd love a global cap on income and costs in football, because things are ludicrous, but it won't happen. Unless of course the whole thing collapses in on itself and high profile clubs start going under. But considering the biggest football clubs in England and Europe basically demonstrated themselves to be recession proof, I don't think that'll happen either.


3.) 30 Jun 2017 09:26:49
Adam, I fear you may have missed the point.

I believe that the majority of the posters here are not "demanding" we pay £70m for a player.

The majority of the posters here, and fans in general, want their team to buy players that will improve the first 11 and the squad.

Whether that player ends up costing £7m or £70m essentially comes down to the two teams negotiating over him.

I, and I believe most fans, would fully trust the administrators and negotiators at the club not to stretch the finances beyond our means. let's not forget that FSG saved us from going into administration in the first place, so I very much doubt they would themselves push us back to the brink by overspending a la Leeds and Portsmouth in the last 10-15 seasons.

Just like you, I do not begrudge anyone an opinion. But my opinion is that those demanding we DO sign a £70m player, and those demanding we DON'T sign a £70m player are both equally wrong.

We should be debating and demanding the RIGHT players to improve our chances of success, irregardless of what they cost. The cost is just an arbitrary (albeit increasingly obscene) number negotiated by two parties (well three parties if you include the agent! ) .


4.) 30 Jun 2017 09:35:54
I think MK is pointing out that the fans who actually go to matches and provide the atmosphere are being priced out of the game, these are the true core of a club. When the football manager generation start calling for £70 mill transfers they fundamentally misunderstand the full nature of football and the consequences of a club when it loses touch with its grass roots.


5.) 30 Jun 2017 10:35:34
I strongly disagree with your post HBR. I come from a long generation of scousers but I now live in the south. That doesn't mean I am any less of a fan than the tourists who come over and pay extortionate fees for a ticket yet probably couldn't name our previous 5 managers. Anyone who buys a shirt or in some way puts money into lfc has as much right as any fan who buys a ticket.


6.) 30 Jun 2017 10:38:39
Maybe a club salary cap similar to what exists in the NHL would help. It would need to be a bit more stringent and also attempt to be a bit more level but since you can't cap players salary then enforcing a cap on how much clubs can spend on salaries would be the next best alternative.

It would also need to avoid the trap of the cap being x% of the club turnover as that simply shifts the problem and doesn't solve it.


7.) 30 Jun 2017 10:49:06
Exactly HBR, spot on. I have nothing else to say on the matter. It is the working class fan who will pay the price in the long run though.


8.) 30 Jun 2017 11:00:14
Stuie I don't think that is what HBR meant. Fans are the lifeblood though and fans of all kinds are being priced out, but especially the people who provide the atmosphere in the stadium.


9.) 30 Jun 2017 11:59:52
If that's the case then fair enough, I may have misunderstood his but that's how I read it.


10.) 30 Jun 2017 12:13:34
I suppose I'm an idealist who's out of touch with modern football, for me it was about players, fans and managers all pulling in the same direction, now money and merchandising are separating the clubs and fracturing the identities, its definitely not the same as it was at anfield and in my eyes that is more important to results than Van Dijk or Keita will be.


11.) 30 Jun 2017 18:46:55
The money spent on tickets and merchandise would no where near cover the price of one high level player? Seriously how do you think the club earns money just from ticket sales and merchandise? No, it's all commercial revenue ticket sales are what 20m a year?

As for the fact your saying TV prices will go up, Sky are in fact REDUCING the price it costs people to watch Sky Sports by separating the channels by sports and you pay for the sport you want to see. As well there are LESS people paying for sky sports yet the new deal for PL is 4x that of before.

How is that if less people are paying? That's because the money comes from commercial revenue not fans pockets. I assume clubs could make tickets free and it wouldn't really effect revenue, its all about getting fans eyes on advertisements, that's where the money comes from. Just relax, if the club can't afford the 70m they wouldn't pay it.


 

 

28 Jun 2017 21:58:44
Things have got way out of hand with Keita in my opinion. An essentially attacking midfielder who only scores 8 goals and creates 8 ONCE is quite simply not worth a mega money transfer.

I have admittedly not seen him live so maybe he is better than his highlights (that would be a first though) but seriously? €70m on a player with 1 season in a top class league? Would anybody pay that for Forsberg? Or Werner? Because in my opinion they probably had better seasons than Keita. However the media haven't drummed up a storm around them so they are not world class?

You can't go around slinging that kind of money on players who have proven so little. That is money you spend on proven world class players. We will end up in serious debt if we start making mega money gambles. You take gambles at £10-20m. I apologise in advance for anybody who has watched Keita extensively and can genuinely say they see real potential. It really does seem like some people are just getting caught up in a hype band wagon though.

This is just my opinion though guys, I just cannot justify that figure on a guy nobody had heard of 12 months ago.

MK Scouser

1.) 28 Jun 2017 22:15:10
Mate do you really think it makes difference how much he will coast, or how much he has played in a top class league? at the end of the day it's what klopp thinks that matters.


2.) 28 Jun 2017 22:15:27
Err, an essentially attacking midfielder? MK, not that I have seen much of him, but he starts in a DM or CM position. I believe he is often operating in the Henderson/ Wijnaldum mould for them. If he comes (and that's a huge, Godzilla-esque IF), he will be taking Wijnaldum's position I guess.
The numbers are pretty great considering that; I think he had some set pieces in him too, but most impressive is his ability of athleti dribbling, sort of similar to what Mane does upfield.


3.) 28 Jun 2017 22:16:50
There's more to football than just scoring and assisting. Look at Kante, he's not exactly a goal machine or the assist king but he is probably the best midfielder in the league. Keita is similar to Kante just he can score and assist a fair few. In my opinion we should pay up to £60m for him (after looking at today's market) . It's a lot of money but £60m today is like £40m a couple of years back.
I encourage you to have a watch of him as every time I've seen him, I've been mightily impressed.


4.) 28 Jun 2017 22:30:33
I understand your concerns about spending big money on someone you don't think is proven. Seriously though mate how can you debate someone you have never even watched? Or sorry watched his highlights.
Ever since Ronaldo went to Madrid for silly money and ridiculous buy out clauses where put in place the going rate for players was always going to go up that's just life.


5.) 28 Jun 2017 23:07:57
DaRedMan you are absolutely right in my opinion.


6.) 29 Jun 2017 07:18:37
Kante cost £30m only 12 months ago.
Keita is not twice the player.


7.) 29 Jun 2017 07:43:55
Yes Ron and that's was the bargain of the decade!
Is keita twice the player of Andy Carroll? Yeah probably.


8.) 29 Jun 2017 08:08:54
There is a problem with an inflationary spiral in the game, the question is, do we compete and bring in top players and have a seat at the top table m, or do we gamble at the lower end and hope for the best. Just remember, we settled for the gamble option when we brought in Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou instead of Anelka and Duff or when we went for Pennant and Crouch instead of Dani Alves and there are plenty of other examples I could mention. Tell yourselves that Keita isn't good enough when he turns out for a rival team against us and makes the difference for them winning. 8 goals and 8 assists for a central midfielder in their first season in a new league is good going, not withstanding his defensive contribution as he puts himself about a fair bit. There is no question that he is good enough, the question is, can anyone realistically come up with another player who offers what he does for less money?


9.) 29 Jun 2017 09:48:09
Jacko, comparing NK to AC is a false equivalent that is illogical. MK is actually correct in his assessment and I have actually seen Keita play a few times for RBL. He is Kante but with better attacking (goals, assists and shooting ability) and passing ability. He is dynamic and would play the Wiji role if he came to us as IMO, that would be his best position next to Hendo/ Can in the B2B role.

Now, MK is correct that he is not worth his money being asked and RBL is only asking that amount cos they don't want to sell, which is normal. No one would be stupid enough to pay that money at this time which may explain why we are the only ones in for him. In fact, no one was going to pay the 50m we offered at first. People don't even ask why that is? Maybe cos he ain't worth it regardless of his immense talent. If Klopp wants to let himself get stripped naked by RBL then he should have at it BUT that does not mean that what many of us like MK and myself are saying, has no value.


10.) 30 Jun 2017 14:07:50
MK

And how many Deep lying CM has scored more than him. Comparing his stats to Strikers and Wingers are ridiculous. He has had more impact in one season than all three of Hendo, Wiji and Can combined.


11.) 30 Jun 2017 14:11:45
@Ron
Kante would cost £100mill this summer Fact! Price is generally very high this summer compared to last and it will continue to grow!


12.) 30 Jun 2017 17:40:50
Comparing prices of one player to another is essentially pointless in this day and age. is pogba 100 times better than any player signed for 1 million no it's completely irrelevant though. There are way too many factors for each transfer. For a start wasn't kante due to a clause in the contract and him wanting to leave? Also how much would it take to buy him this summer would Chelsea even sell for 100 million pound?

I digress, back to keita he is a seriously big talent don't anybody doubt that. Also forsberg very inconsistent but top top dead balls. actually a little surprised keita only had 8 assists as his balls through a needle is spectacular.

As I said somewhere above I don't think it's a player we overly need but I don't think anyone could be dissapointed if he did come!


 

 

 

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20 Jul 2017 22:54:36
Swap deal with Coutinho? Or Everton finally signing a player above Championship quality?

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19 Jul 2017 10:21:36
Nonsense. Why would we ask permission before agreeing terms with the player? That is not the way this club operates.

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17 Jul 2017 18:28:09
I Dunno Ed. You ever heard of Adrian Durham?

Wet paint watches him dry, he's that boring.

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17 Jul 2017 17:34:19
Fat kid from Bolton? Paddy McGuiness?

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16 Jul 2017 10:35:01
Thanks for the info Ed002. I'm not sure if you've seen it though, but Klopp has been speaking to the press about how Solanke will get chances in the first team this season. To me, whether that is said directly to the player or not, that is a promise of game time which should be honoured by any honourable man.

If that presser was all lies and Solanke is intended for the u23 team, then I feel sorry for Brewster who worked incredibly hard to get there and will be replaced by another teams academy player; but also Solanke who will have read the comments. From what you've just said now though I'm starting to think this was another case of trigger happy Liverpool stockpiling talented young players with no idea how to help them progress.

I can see it now: Summer 2020, 22 year old Solanke joins Reading for just £2m after failing to get a chance at Liverpool 🙄.

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21 Jul 2017 11:27:17
He's been replaced by Salah already. We lose one of our front 3, and sign a new player for the front 3.

As a midfielder he played there about 5 times in the last 2 seasons so a replacement isn't really necessary. I suspect we will push through the Keita deal though.

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21 Jul 2017 10:50:06
I know it will seem a silly suggestion, but Firmino might really struggle next season. We are looking very likely to lose Moreno, Lucas and Coutinho. They are all Firmino's best mates at the club gone in one hit. I know people look at footballers as if they are robots with no emotion, but I think he may have a tough time dealing with it. It's easy to sit here and say 'make new friends' but within a squad there will always be cliques and it's not as simple as just joining a different group.

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20 Jul 2017 13:19:29
There is no doubt he is monster in the air. In a 1 vs 1 headed duel I reckon he'd beat anybody else in the league 9 times out of 10 except Carroll, Kompany and McAuley. We definitely did struggle aerially.

My worry is that he is positionally inept, lacks leadership and struggles to mark players. Give him a ball to attack, sure. But give him a man to mark and he is lost. He isn't a bad player, but I think there is better value elsewhere. £70m is just ridiculous. For that I'd expect the most complete defender in the world; Basically a 100% fit Kompany!

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20 Jul 2017 13:12:40
The last time Liverpool had two out and out wide players to play either side of a striker, we won the league! Never mind SAS. It was all about BAB. I have only seen highlights of Barnes, Aldo and Beardo but to say they were the best in English football history is probably an understatement.

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19 Jul 2017 19:04:12
Ed, Edd and Eddy.

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{Ed025's Note - i could be...dick ed.. :)