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25 Aug 2017 13:41:43
Can't reveal who told me this as I've promised not to say, but AOC has today told Arsenal he wants to sign for Liverpool this summer and will reject all contract offers they make. It's just down to Liverpool to make an acceptable offer to Arsenal and AOC now which it is expected will happen.

Information comes from a corporate box regular at the Emirates but that is as far as I'm willing to elaborate.

Ball is In our court now. Let's hope LFC don't balls up again.

MK Scouser

1.) 25 Aug 2017 13:54:18
I hope this is true because AOC will definitely be an upgrade over Milner.
With Klopp talking about moving Milner to midfield, I'd rather have AOC play there. Milner is horrible in the midfield.


2.) 25 Aug 2017 14:03:28
That's our problem. Ball ends up in our court and we don't offer the money.


3.) 25 Aug 2017 14:11:57
Having seen Chelsea table a 30m bid, I'm sure we will go in with about 25m and be surprised when it doesn't happen. I don't think AOC will improve our starting 11.


4.) 25 Aug 2017 14:17:35
At this moment, even Snoogy Doogy is fine with me.


5.) 25 Aug 2017 14:24:50
This is one I hope we do balls up. We don't need another jack of all trades and master of none.


6.) 25 Aug 2017 14:27:50
Thought he was odds on to join chelsea? Id be happy with the ox joining us.

{Ed025's Note - your easily pleased then ste..


7.) 25 Aug 2017 14:28:54
At this moment I thin AOC would be an upgrade on Lovren at CB ;-)

{Ed025's Note - so would avi cohen..


8.) 25 Aug 2017 14:34:19
To be honest I'd take Ox as his utility will improve and deepen this squad. However his utility does not stretch far enough to him covering Mignolet, Lovren and Moreno.


9.) 25 Aug 2017 14:35:50
If the reports are true that he is unhappy playing as a wing back that should rule out Chelsea's approach unless they are looking at him from a homegrown stand point ed002?

If his preference is a CM/ wide man that suits Liverpool imo. certainly gives us more depth which will be needed with European football to contend with.

{Ed002's Note - It is not really like that. Chelsea would expect him to adapt and he has the benefit to English sides of being homegrown (sounds like a line fron Country Joe's "Paradise with an Ocean View").}


10.) 25 Aug 2017 14:34:59
Ed025 - I just think he would excel playing under Klopp. or maybe its the desperation at the late stage of the window.

{Ed025's Note - the latter for me ste..


11.) 25 Aug 2017 14:54:04
the OX has turned down arsenals offer there going to make a desision in the next 24hrs weather to let him leave or keep him. if they keep they won't get a penny next summer.


12.) 25 Aug 2017 15:46:47
Whilst I don't dislike him, if he's turning down supposedly a large pay rise at arsenal it's obviously a move for football reasons solely. The issue here for me is that, in order to choose Liverpool for this reason would surely imply he's got assurances from klopp about playing time and position and I'm not sure I'd have him over those within the starting eleven.


13.) 25 Aug 2017 15:52:50
More than 30mil on an average player with 12months on his contract left seems like crazy money.

He won't be in our starting 11 so not saying Kent is better but is rather give him a chance then spend that amount on ox to sit on our bench.


14.) 25 Aug 2017 16:01:04
I don't mind him as cover/ to challenge for Mane and Salah, and it means we have an experienced winger in case of injury/ rotation requirements (without needing to move Firmino wide), but don't really see him as a great midfield option.


15.) 25 Aug 2017 16:13:20
The idea of him playing in centre midfield actually makes me feel a bit sick. Having seen him play there for Arsenal and England it's a recipe for disaster. He's a very ordinary footballer at best, free transfer to sit on the bench, fine, but 30 odd million starter in centre midfield? No way. There's a reason he isn't an automatic starter in the middle for Arsenal, it's because he's completely ineffective, he lacks the positional sense, the passing ability and doesn't have the all round game.


16.) 25 Aug 2017 16:20:56
Talk of him turning down 180k p/ w is astonishing, more the fact that anyone is willing to pay that.
I would take him at 20m and below in today's market, as he can cover a few positions but is he better than Milner? at this moment I would say no.
He is still young so has improvement in him but that isn't guaranteed and his injury record would worry me.


17.) 25 Aug 2017 17:07:35
To win titles you need more than 1 player per position. (of the same calibre)
If we take Mane, Salah off are we comfortable with who we have on the bench to inject that pace.
I think not.
Id welcome Ox with open arms and id be gutted if we did have an interest in signing him and then we miss out.
Everyone doubted Mane, look at him go.
I think he'd work brilliantly with Klopp.


18.) 25 Aug 2017 17:14:09
I'd have him, just hopefully not for stupid money. Our biggest problem this year will be strength in depth. Having Ox grujic etc playing cup games would hopefully see us through till the latter parts of cup competitions.


19.) 25 Aug 2017 17:31:54
Think he thinks he'll be a starter? Odd!


20.) 25 Aug 2017 17:35:06
The point is Kopette that Oxlade has these delusions that he is going to be a centre midfielder, quite against logic and reason. Personally I'd be happy with Ryan Kent backing up Mane and Salah than wasting £30 off million on him. I'd also contebf that you need top quality in central defence and centre midfield to win titles, that is something we severely lack. Oxlade answers neither of those issues. We've done too much signing of squad filler and bench fodder over the years.


21.) 25 Aug 2017 17:58:14
Thank so for the Info MK I hope was sign Ox would be a good addition imo.


22.) 25 Aug 2017 18:13:19
Get a grip boys, he's a really good player that will excel under Klopp. I believe he will be a great player for us. at least he sticking to his guns and wants a move to better his career. Fingers crossed he wants to come, and we can sort a good deal out.


23.) 25 Aug 2017 18:52:59
Tel1949 isn't that what Coutinho doing?


24.) 25 Aug 2017 20:06:27
Mr Dennis, yea but Barcelona are m*cking about. Offer 150mill up front :-P.


25.) 25 Aug 2017 21:26:31
Defence should be the priority.


26.) 25 Aug 2017 21:34:07
That we could end up selling Coutinho and replace him with a very ordinary and poor footballer like Oxlade Chamberlain is actually a depressing thought.


27.) 25 Aug 2017 23:19:53
So let me get this straight. when we were linked and he went to Arsenal we griped. Now he's loads improved and we don't want him.


28.) 25 Aug 2017 23:48:09
Never griped when he went to Arsenal wasn't that fussed, about as good as Walcott and wasn't fussed by him either. Oxlade hasn't improved loads by any stretch of the imagination. He's a very ordinary footballer. And possibly the worst option we could consider for centre midfield, he makes Christian Poulsen look effective.


29.) 26 Aug 2017 00:12:53
He was very highly rated on the boards at the time and yes he has improved. Better player currently than Stewart, Lucas, markovic, ojo and any of the young ones who could fill these positions including Grujic. Don't get me wrong, he's not perfect, but he's got plenty of agility and a fair turn of pace, solid ball control and is progressing into a great player. I think with less pressure on him we could see him having the same kind of year Wijnaldum had for us last year, which would be more than worth the money paid.


30.) 26 Aug 2017 00:54:27
His first touch is shocking and his range of passing is terrible. Add to that no defensive nous and no positional sense and you have a player who should be nowhere near centre midfield.


31.) 25 Aug 2017 21:48:29
Ed0025, I enjoy your banter and you can take as well as you give but your Avi Cohen comment was out of line mate.

{Ed025's Note - your right kirkby and i apologize mate, i was looking for a name from the past and his came to mind, i never realized he had passed and would never knowingly disrespect anyone, big faux pas on my part and i feel terrible about that mate..


32.) 27 Aug 2017 08:21:21
Amerigo, where exactly has Ox improved? My friend, you may believe what you like but the rest of us have eyes and can see quite clearly that Ox has not improved one iota. He was a winger, yes but why is he now playing at wingback? Could it be that it is cos he has failed at that position? He has scored 6 goals in 6 seasons. You call that improvement? Really? The guy wants play in CM as a starter. That must be some kind of sick joke. Why? Who will he start ahead of at LFC? Can, Hendo, Wiji, Lallana, Cou? Tell me who? He is definitely not better than Mane, Salah or even kent out wide. Come on, man you will never convince me or many that Ox is better than any of these guys.


33.) 30 Aug 2017 12:19:40
Ed0025, only just noticed your reply. I appreciate your apology and of course I accept it. Understand completely.

On a lighter note, I might need to change my humorous (but slightly facetious) comment of the Blues finishing 7th. I can see them above Arsenal and Spurs for sure and personally hoping they finish above the rubbish so 3rd and 4th wouldn't be too bad for Merseyside! Love the banter between Blues and Reds, know some great Blues lads and hope they have a good (but not above Liverpool good) season. Cheers mate.

{Ed025's Note - nice one kirkby, yeah it would be nice if we could give the mancs and chelsea a run for their money mate, liverpool are looking strong especially in attack but we need a forward badly if we are to be up there..but heres hoping..


 

 

04 Aug 2017 09:14:08
Liverpool are rumoured to have bid €17m for Benjamin Andre. Never seen him play but he is 27 years old, and made 329 interceptions last season; most in Ligue 1.

Not ITK, just sharing a rumour coming out of France this morning.

MK Scouser

1.) 04 Aug 2017 09:42:04
He made 74 interceptions according to football365 who make a mockery of that 329 figure.


2.) 04 Aug 2017 09:58:18
Like I said mate, just sharing a rumour. I have no idea if the stats are right, if the transfer figure is right, or even if that's his real age!


3.) 04 Aug 2017 10:05:17
Wasn't he the guy from Outkast? Andre 3000? If so, that's another pop star that's been linked with us after Lemar. Maybe we're starting a band?

Seriously though, I too have become one of those sad people who spends the entire summer searching for Liverpool transfer rumours and then going straight to youtube when I've never heard of them. From the looks of him, he's someone who can help break down teams and provide a link between midfield and attack, combined with an incredible interception rate.
Looks good to these eyes and youtube.
MDS.


4.) 04 Aug 2017 10:19:25
From what I can find he's been called.

Frances best kept secret.
Poor man's verrati.

Seems tidy and apparently well scouted by lfc but again all just hear say.

Could klopp unearth a gem without breaking the bank, he's done it before.


5.) 04 Aug 2017 10:45:39
So we can;t sign Keita so we are going for 2nd or 3rd best are we? what's the point when we've got Henderson, Crujic, Milner, Can, Wijnaldum and Ejaria looking for places in midfield. Must be better to use what we currently have and then hopefully get our number 1 target next year. Grujic has to get his opportunities to keep his WP. As the Eds has said before we can't just keep adding and adding players.


6.) 04 Aug 2017 15:30:10
Its going to be a long season, and too many injuries, we might need a couple of good squad players, we didn't sign them last January window, I hope that we have learnt our lesson from that basic error .


7.) 04 Aug 2017 17:10:05
I agree red forever. On the one hand we keep hearing that we have a fairly thin squad and on the other hand we hear that if we buy we need to sell. Personally I'd like to see us sign. A top goal scorer to tap in ALL the chances we create. A cb who is strong in the air and has brilliant organisational skills and a holding midfielder who can play the ball well. You could say we have DS and matip and Hendo. Yes we do but they are all a little injury prone. Realistically we should add at least one senior player. right?


 

 

14 May 2017 11:48:50
So Luan, Robertson and Kjaer today then?

I like Robertson and have been suggesting him since January so happy there. I have only seen clips of Luan so I'll reserve judgement (as the clips were underwhelming to say the least) . However I really hope Kjaer rumours are fabricated. He is an okay player, but I don't believe he is an upgrade on Lovren or Matip.

MK Scouser

1.) 14 May 2017 11:53:51
We are not signing a CB this summer according to the Eds. Kjaer is a completely fabricated rumor by desperate papers. Luan also pretty sure won't happen. Robertson probably will be the LB we sign.


2.) 14 May 2017 16:50:25
Whata the point in getting hMions league if qe sign robertson. Not even good ebough for hull.

Nees a better lb than that.

{Ed002's Note - If Gomez were to leave then Liverpool will look to add a centre back. Robertson is a player that Liverpool are looking to buy. Simon Kjaer is likely heading to the South of France (if an issuette can be resolved). Luan is of interest but his ownership needs untangling.}


3.) 14 May 2017 17:42:01
Thanks Ed2. Without yours and Ed1's knowledge we'd all almost certainly be lost. ☺.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Nick.}


4.) 14 May 2017 18:33:27
Shame. No lb fix then.

How are yoy going to improve when you buy players like that.

Listen i know support and don't trash but he's just not good enough in any sense of the word.

The money city and united will spend his summer will see them add aboht 150 mil of quality each. Chelsea and arsenal. Totteham i don't know about with the new stadium.

But we have to buy better than that.

Ed001 has done notbing buy rave avout sessegnon and tierney. Celtic and fulham, they are very attainable.

Robertson has to be one of the last choicea rather leave it.

You all will have a go at me but this is why we have never won the premier league. Simple. Signing no better than what's in the team or academy.

Should only wver sign better than what you have.

Robertson better than gomez, milner or even moreno at lb? Nopes.


5.) 14 May 2017 18:44:51
If Luan is the same Luan as played for Brazil at the Olympics, he's a lively kid with some ability. But no idea what he's been up to in the past year and of course, Olympics football isn't a joke but it's not the Premier League.


6.) 14 May 2017 19:16:20
Not all players cost 100 million mind. sometimes you need to spot something in a player and have some balls to take the gamble.


7.) 14 May 2017 20:01:35
Buying part of a defence that shipped in 67 goals so far this season is certainly a gamble, especially when his stats are far worse than Milner and he's only been ok. I just don't see the positives in Robinson. Average defending, average attacking ability. If that's the best we can do then God help us. We need quality not another Klavan.


8.) 14 May 2017 20:07:09
Robertson was subbed today in hulls biggest game of the season at half time after getting roasted, if this is true it's utterly embarrassing.


9.) 14 May 2017 20:26:26
LI've we did with Deli Alli 😀.


10.) 14 May 2017 20:49:52
Like pennant, babel, bellamy, johnson, skrtel, voronin, aspas, alberto, ballotelli, poulsen, konchesky, dossena, adam, diouf, diao, jovanovic, cheyrou, pongolle, cole, traore, cissokho, sahin, ngog, borini, xavier, nunez, allen, kyriarkos, lambert, markovic, moreno, insua, kromkamp, josemi, barragan, el zhar, klavan, degen, assaidi, yesil, manquillo, bogdan, jones, merieles, benteke, downing, carroll, enrique (ANOTHER LB), coates,

A few next henrys and gerrards in there.

6 lbs

Atleast 8 of them signed after qualifying for the champions leage the year before and finishing 2nd

No premier leages for us after.

I guarentee i could search all those namea on here and archives permitted the post will be "going to be world class" "drop x player he's better" "sell him we have our replacement anyway".

There all run of the mill players ans that's how you stay a run of the mill team.

Yoy have to buy the best to be the best or atleast better than what you have.

Itz about raising expectation in the club. Alaba should be the target and why not, aim for an a and youll get a b. Aim for a c and well, no premier league tropheys tells you.

Hate not every player costs millions, well atleast 80% do and they get you titles and trophys.
You only say that to justify signing bad players.

Btw bellamy was a hit his second time around.


11.) 14 May 2017 22:24:02
Is there any chance we could buy be looking to buy two left backs this summer? Robertson might make an ok backup but I'd be disappointed to see him brought in as first choice.

This would mean Moreno leaving, of course.

Robertson against the likes of Messi, Dybala etc in the Champions League could be very embarrassing.


 

 

04 May 2017 14:17:44
Ed001 you have said we are looking at right backs and have been since last summer.

However the Sharkopod only referenced left backs, and Pereira who can play on both sides.

Is it basically Pereira or nobody? Or are there other targets you haven't mentioned. Perhaps even the chance of signing 2 left backs and moving Milner to right back?

Just curious as there is a good chance Arnold's long term future is in midfield or out wide. So if Clyne was replaced it would need to be a player for the immediate future and preferably long term.

Sorry if it has been answered but I can find nothing on the boards or the sharkopods.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - Pereira is a right back who can play left. He is the main target for right back, with TAA and Milner as cover. The priority is left back this summer, right back is seen as secondary. I really do not know of any other option right now for the right back berth. I will ask and see if it is a bit like Chilwell last season or if there are others being scouted.}


1.) 04 May 2017 14:32:19
Does this mean Clyne's being pushed out? RB is a position we can improve significantly by replacing Clyne with Periera.
The link up between Periera and Mane will be deadly.

{Ed001's Note - yes, we are looking to replace Clyne.}


2.) 04 May 2017 14:38:38
Ed001, with the situation you described at right back is it likely that we'll see Clyne move on?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


3.) 04 May 2017 15:10:49
Great news, feel for clyne as he at least puts the effort in unlike others but he's really not suited to the team.


4.) 04 May 2017 15:23:17
I think I am right in saying ed002 said he doubts pereira will move to us. So there must be more we are looking at.


5.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?


6.) 04 May 2017 15:15:25
Ed001,any clubs interested in Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of much interest right now mate.}


7.) 04 May 2017 15:17:53
Hey ed01, hope you are having a good day!

A question in a similar vein - we are being strongly linked to recruitements in CB and CM, which is kind of understandable with european footie coming next season. Now, it is by no means certain that new players will arrive in those positions, but IF that happens, which members of the current squad would in your opinion be most in danger of being dropped to the bench, or moved on? of course, best case scenario will just see increased competition and rotation, and starters being selected on merit, but I am very curious what the current hierarchy is, so to say.

Cheers!

{Ed001's Note - I do not expect a centre back to arrive this summer, if one did, it would probably be a bad sign for Gomez though.

As for CM, it is likely that Lucas would be leaving.}


8.) 04 May 2017 15:24:06
Has any clubs shown interest in Clyne ed? Where do you see his likely destination?

{Ed001's Note - not yet, but the clubs likely to be interested are those in the lower half of the Prem. If I had to put money on it though, it would be on a return to Palace.}


9.) 04 May 2017 16:02:50
Clyne likely to leav this summer then ed? didn't see that coming mate.

{Ed001's Note - possibly. Even probably.}


10.) 04 May 2017 16:22:39
Its is a pity Klopp couldn't convince his fellow countyman Lahm into not retiring at the end of the season and bring him in on a free for a season or two. He can cover left back, right back and the central midfield position that would be left by Lucas, plus a whole lot of experience. there isn't much he hasn't won.

I know he is 33 now, but so is Dani Alves and watching him play top flight CL football last night you wouldn't think so, set up both of Higuains goals too

Just a thought, Jurgen.


11.) 04 May 2017 16:52:31
Cheers ed

Has him leaving always been the plan then or has it developed recently?

{Ed001's Note - we tried to replace him last summer.}


12.) 04 May 2017 16:52:49
Leaving this summer Ed mate? Didn't know that Klopp is that discontent with Clyne?

{Ed001's Note - why? We had told you last summer the club were looking for a right back.}


13.) 04 May 2017 17:18:36
What is it in Clynes game that Klopp doesn't like?

{Ed001's Note - because he is not good enough.}


14.) 04 May 2017 17:42:32
Peirera likely ed?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}


15.) 04 May 2017 17:46:36
Right mate, cheers! Is Pereira better?

{Ed001's Note - my mother is better.}


16.) 04 May 2017 17:58:29
Ed 1 that's the best reply I've ever seen on here.

{Ed001's Note - many a true word spoken in jest.....}


17.) 04 May 2017 18:04:09
Haha that's harsh 😂.

{Ed001's Note - harsh but true. I can tell which players are particularly bad thanks to the missus, who hasn't a clue about football, but counts the number of times I swear at a particular player for doing something wrong. She has had to get an abacus to keep track of Clyne's mistakes......}


18.) 04 May 2017 18:07:50
are we interested in her then ed lol.

{Ed001's Note - funny you should say that, she is currently in the process of moving back to the UK just in case.}


19.) 04 May 2017 18:08:57
Nice response to Scouserseb lol people who rate Clyne really do grind my gears, he's bang average in nearly every department. Really disappointed that you say we aren't looking for a CB though Ed, the defensive problems will continue as long as Lovren is first choice.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to give Gomez a chance to develop into first choice over the season. You can't change fullbacks and centre backs in one summer, so it has to be a bit by bit job. With a bit of luck, Gomez will mean we do not need to worry next summer either.}


20.) 04 May 2017 18:20:19
Thanks for all the replies Ed001. You are a star!

{Ed001's Note - aww thanks. I am blushing now!}


21.) 04 May 2017 18:20:23
Ed001 is spot on regarding Clyne, I did mention not long ago that Klopp wants TAA in the team next season so that could spell the end for him.


22.) 04 May 2017 19:02:25
Palace fans I know don't rate him either and may not want him back.


23.) 04 May 2017 19:21:27
Surely West Ham would be interested. Have barely played a real RB all season. Clearly bilic doesn't rate byram, tho I suppose bilic may be off anyway.


24.) 04 May 2017 19:27:18
Hey edd may I ask if your back together is the wedding back on. Very happy for you if it getting married maybe we can do a whip around and get you a present big love xx.


25.) 04 May 2017 21:44:45
We aren't getting married now Walter. I pulled the plug because he kept accusing me of being after half of his Dubai apartment. I mean sure it had a pretty decent view, but I'm not like that. I only got it valued in secret because I was curious.

{Ed001's Note - if I owned an apartment that would be a good idea MKS.

nrw - no mate, I was just kidding about the missus counting my swearing.}


26.) 04 May 2017 22:55:31
Ahh bless as long as all the edds and posters are happy and healthy.


27.) 05 May 2017 06:24:29
I'm not convinced by all this. If Klopp wasn't keen on Clyne then TAA would be playing. Most of these rumours are rubbish.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise that TAA is not ready this season and is being eased in gradually right? The rubbish is you thinking Couts would be on the bench when Barca's midfield has been on the wane for years and is why they are struggling this season.}


28.) 05 May 2017 10:50:45
If we do not find a RB this summer, will TAA be the starting RB next season? And if we are also unable to offload Clyne, will TAA still be ahead of him?


29.) 05 May 2017 11:27:47
Adding to the fire here, I was told by a friend in January, a business partner of Ryan Bertrand, that Clyne himself was looking to leave, and that Southampton would be looking at Sturridge this summer.

I then asked how much they're going to charge us for Sturridge. I'm thinking at least £40m based on recent deals.

I'll get my coat.

Top bit is true, though - Clyne wants to move back down south.


30.) 05 May 2017 17:54:35
Ed001, so matip with Gomez as maybe first choice, lovren covering. If Lucas leaves, do you think klavan will stay? I know he's just arrived this season, but I'd rather keep Lucas as cover for both and move on klavan?

{Ed001's Note - Klavan is staying anyway, he is back up only.}


31.) 07 May 2017 10:58:49
Honestly don't think Klopp fancies Joe Gomez anymore, last year found minutes for Ojo, Stewart, in the first part of this season both underwhelmed when given some minutes, haven't been heard of since, but Woodburn and TAA found some minutes with some lively performances or cameos given a chance, even with the injuries at the position, Klopp has chosen Lucas over him.


 

 

10 Mar 2017 19:39:21
Not sure on the Chamberlain rumours.

He is clearly a very talented player and seems to be one of the more passionate Arsenal players. He was the only guy who turned up against Bayern. He is very versatile able to play basically any role in our team ahead of Henderson. At only 23 it is very typical of English football that he has already been written off. He has sublime technical ability, great balance and can produce moments of magic on rare ocacssions.

However, there are clearly some things to worry about. His end product for one is truly terrible at times. He can go past 4 or 5 players and then put his cross on the roof of the net! Frustrating is an understatement. What truly gets alarm bells ringing though has to be his injury record. He is out for about half of every season, normally.

Torn on this rumour. To be fair he is allegedly a Liverpool fan and very good friends with Henderson so maybe it makes sense if Can and Milner leave. He could be a versatile impact sub in their place. You have to wonder if it is worth the risk though. Milner although being 8 years older is arguably just as good and can additionally cover both full back positions, but just as importantly is never injured. I'm sure this rumour will split opinion, but I am undecided for now.

MK Scouser

1.) 10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.


2.) 10 Mar 2017 21:18:52
He's not good enough and injury prone.


3.) 10 Mar 2017 22:07:29
There are better options out there.


4.) 10 Mar 2017 22:14:18
Oxs would be perfect for us he could play in the Lallana role of outwide but I don't know if he gets in the team.


5.) 10 Mar 2017 22:23:06
His attitude on the pitch is sublime, just what every fan wants to see, maybe not the big money game changing signing but I'm not sure that's klopps philosophy. He is the type of player that lifts people around him and that's priceless. If klopp worked with him I'd imagine ox is the type of player that would go to war for JK. Could be an inspired signing.


6.) 10 Mar 2017 22:15:59
MK the amount of times Klopp has left me with egg on my face and eating humble pie Im getting sick of the stuff lol. I wouldn't judge any decision of Klopps until a fair assessment can be made. If Klopp feels he can work with Gotze again, if Klopp thinks he can better manage the Ox I'll reserve my judgement until after a season or two. All this pie and i don't even like pastry :-P.


7.) 10 Mar 2017 22:16:59
How can you say he is "not good enough" though? He is 23 years old and has never had a chance to progress due to injuries. At 23 years old most people wanted Carragher sold. At 23 years old Sturridge had been rejected by Man City and Chelsea.

Chamberlain is a very talented player, with a lot of potential. The gamble is not whether he is good enough, it is whether he can finally stay fit and find consistency. Both of which are fairly related.

I have no doubt that on his game, 100% fit he is good enough for our team. How often will that happen though? That is the real question here.


8.) 10 Mar 2017 22:19:00
Maybe I'm watching a different player but Oxlade is a bang average player. Hasn't got electric pace enough to be a threat out wide, his delivery is poor and hasn't the guile to be a number 10 and he lacks the intelligence and physical attributes to play in centre midfield. He can go to City, Chelsea or United as far as I'm concerned.


9.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:31
We don't need another running midfielder MK. We have it in with Wiji and Lallana. We need a deep lying midfielder.


10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:40:48
He's still a young lad.
Best is yet to come from him.


11.) 10 Mar 2017 23:10:11
His attitude stinks. Remember that little strop he threw on the field in the first leg against Bayern? Sorry but I only want players who are fully committed, with a good attitude and will not strop on the field.


12.) 11 Mar 2017 01:14:11
Not for me thanks.


13.) 11 Mar 2017 01:22:10
Da Red man that strop showed nothing but his commitment. He tried to close down 3 passes with no help from the rest of team who had given up.

Don't think we need him though.


14.) 11 Mar 2017 01:27:39
Daredman you know why he did that because no one was trying to get the bull back with him . Oxs would be a good signing there's a player in him it just needs to be unlock.

I remember people saying hendo and Lallana are bang average look at them now.

People did not what mane because of his attitude and have we seen anything bad from mane

And if you let him go to a rival and do well you look really silly.

Have we got a replace for Lallana because I have not seen one in are team . Gini naver like him

I'm not saying he should be a top target but if you can get him for 15-20mil you can't go wrong.


15.) 11 Mar 2017 01:28:19
Would rather some of our youngsters get a chance than injury prone new signings.


16.) 11 Mar 2017 09:28:48
Problem is can he stay fit?

How does he stay fot in a klopp team thag works harder than almost any other?


17.) 11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.


18.) 11 Mar 2017 15:19:04
You lost me at "ahead of Henderson" Pure nonsense that!

You then further lost me by then saying he could be a "versatile impact sub"!

Contradicting much?

He'd pad out the squad giving us another option off the bench but he's no starter.


19.) 11 Mar 2017 15:59:43
I look at it this way: Is he going to improve our first team? No. Is he going to start ahead of our first choice 11? No. At Arsenal, he has been played wide and in a central role, so not a specialist but bit of a squad player (potential or not) .

Add his injury issues, and that fact that he is English (over-hyped and over-priced), and it looks like a transfer we probably should avoid.


20.) 11 Mar 2017 17:18:36
That's a good argument Seano. I cannot say I disagree.


21.) 11 Mar 2017 21:25:20
Mind bender I think you misread my post. I mean he can play in any position further forward than defensive midfield. Not instead of Henderson. Hence my suggestion that he could be versatile cover or an impact player.

AG I would say that when fit and on form he would be knocking on the door to start ahead of Lallana. That is why I am querying his fitness and consistency though because it is so unreliable. I'm only instigating a debate buddy. Like I say, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject. I don't think he would be the worst signing but as you rightly point out, him being English will inflate his price; even with only a year on his contract. So there is probably better value elsewhere.

Somebody else used the phrase already, but Chamberlain is the personification of a gamble.


22.) 12 Mar 2017 11:51:21
Think Chamberlain would be a very shrewd signing and would probe a lot of people wrong.


23.) 12 Mar 2017 16:46:19
Chamberlain just isn't worth wasting the money on. If it wasn't for the fact he was English he wouldn't even be a £10 million player. We would be better off signing Brandt as he's got more potential and even now is a far superior footballer. If it's simply a matter of choosing a winger because he's 'English', we may as well do our annual trip to Southampton and buy Redmond.


24.) 13 Mar 2017 17:42:52
He wants to play te box to box role, he actually had a very good run at it whenFlamini was't good enough after re signing for Arsenal, and coquelin was out. He didn't show enough for me then to suggest he'd make it. He's a wide player for Asernal when most ohters are fit, and atm, he's been overtaken by Iwobi. I said before if we're getting an arsenal player for a central role, I'd rather it be Ramsey wo for me is much more accomplished.


 

 

 

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18 Nov 2017 18:50:36
Great game from the lads today. 3 goals scored, clean sheet, Salah starting to look like Fowler with pace etc.

What is Salah's ceiling? He has 14 Goals in 18 games! He started the season scoring about a goal every other game, and then in the last 2 games he has scored 4! If he carries on at this rate, we could be looking at a record breaking Premier League goals tally. He is easily looking like a 40 goal a season player in al competitions. That is terrifying!

What an absolute monster. Thank god he's a Liverpool fan. Sign him to a 9 year contract and give him the key to the City. Build a god damn statue if that's what it takes; DO NOT LOSE THIS MAN! I am not exagerrating when i say, he may actually become the best player we've had in my lifetime.

Wow. I'm going to get a drink to calm myself down. Pinch me.

MK Scouser

{Ed0333's Note - Post of the day so far. I love it when people make me laugh.


1.) 18 Nov 2017 18:58:48
Yet some are begging for an out and out striker. HA HA.

Salah putting most out and out stirkers to bed.


2.) 18 Nov 2017 19:04:47
MK mate I know what you mean I love him just love him. You know what excites/ scares me is that with no exagerration he could have easily had close to 10 more goals to his current tally so far. He hits the 40 goal barrier this season I would happily carry him around Anfield, actually to hell with it around Liverpool like some sort of royal prince.

{Ed0333's Note - I’m with you Alonso Salah’s goal tally would have been unbelievable had he even scored 50% of the glorious chances he’s missed. But I’m not complaining mind, he is incredible and he’s ours.


3.) 18 Nov 2017 19:17:35
Salah has been immense this season and the guy always plays with a smile on his face. Mane has also been a top top signing for us. But people are kidding themselves if they say they wouldn't want a world class goal scorer in between them. Did Luis playing up top effect Messi or Neymars tally, has Aguero effected Sane, Sterling, Jesus or De Bruynes. What about costa last season with Hazard and Pedro. No they just added more goals and complimented them and won them leagues. But yeah we are 5th so why would we need a top striker.


4.) 18 Nov 2017 19:29:33
Not saying a top striker is the priority though as it's clearly not. However I wouldn't turn one down. I think we average something like 20+ shots a game. Games like today are great but it's the games where we fail to score or capatilise on our chances which are the ones that result in us not challenging for titles and is where a top striker could be the difference.


5.) 18 Nov 2017 19:32:56
Jayden. add a stirker and you might take Slaha's presence away.

Salah is basically our striker. Who is this striker that is going to be scoring 14 in 18 matches for us. HA HA.


6.) 18 Nov 2017 19:44:28
Let's be honest, Salah pretty much is our striker. What is the difference between Salah who starts out wide and drifts centrally, or Lukaku who starts centrally and drifts out wide? People care too much about theoretical positions and where the dots are on a magnetic tactics board.

All i care about is that we now have 4 players on the Premier league top scorers list. Salah (9), Mane (3), Coutinho (3) and Firmino (3). Only City with 5 players have more individuals in the top 20. Mane and Coutinho have been missing as well so would probably have double under normal circumstances and Lallana would probably be there too had he been fit.

We have more than enough goal scorers. I couldn't care less what numbers or positions they play if I'm honest. It's all in peoples minds. We're like a swarm of locusts going forward since signing that Egyptian God. Can Amy locals tell me if The Mersey is running red?

Speaking of Salah though, who's up for an E-petition to get him to knight the Queen? I'd love to see Queen Lizzy down on one knee as he gave her his blessing.

What a man. We love you Mohamed Fowlah!


7.) 18 Nov 2017 19:44:50
A lot of Salah’s goals are caused by Firmino vacating the centre forward area allowing Salah to take that space and get in a position to score goals. If you had a traditional forward instead of Firmino that space would be occupied by that forward and a lot of the space in which Salah currently operates would vanish. Instead of complaining about what we don’t have maybe we should be praising Klopp for creating the circumstances where Salah can be this affective.


8.) 18 Nov 2017 19:52:22
I don't get why people are so obsessed with getting a striker. It's firmino that creates the goals with his movement, his touch and his ability. I wouldn't want yo see him replaced up there. When he's on form we r great. He's the perfect foil for mane and salah.


9.) 18 Nov 2017 19:53:56
Max so do you think only 1 player can score in a match 🤦🏻‍♂. Another goalscorer will just add more threat to a team. Or should we just sell Mane as well because he is getting some of Salah's chances too 🤦🏻‍♂.


10.) 18 Nov 2017 20:06:43
Jayden, Salah is scoring plenty. Why exactly would you want to take that away from him? If we do add an out and out striker (who ever that may be), let's hope he will score as many as Salah while trying to provide the out and out strker with chances.

Some people will never be pleased.


11.) 18 Nov 2017 20:22:50
Who cares
Let klopp get on with it. none of us are experts.
If it works then why question it.
Its the defence that we can all question.


12.) 18 Nov 2017 20:26:14
Salah and Mane are proving that maybe we don’t need an out and out striker. Salah is a quality player and looks an absolute steal. He was every bit as good as Dybala last season and he’s carrying that on. Was dead happy when we got him and he just keeps getting better.


13.) 18 Nov 2017 20:39:19
Last time we had an out and out top class striker was the last time we competed for a league title. But like I said we are 5th so that's just as good these days. A striker would compliment Mane and Salah not hinder them.


14.) 18 Nov 2017 20:39:46
"Its the defence that we can all question. "

5 cleans sheets in 8 matches all competitions since start of October.

That is an improvement, surely?


15.) 18 Nov 2017 20:43:22
Sandon if you think we shouldn't debate then why come onto a forum yourself.


16.) 18 Nov 2017 20:54:26
I think you're missing my point lads. With a top class striker in between them not only would Mane and Salah still score the same amount but their assists would go through the roof and so would our goals for. Look at the games Salah and Mane haven't been effective this season. We lost or drew them. Striker is not a priority position but we are here to debate and if a top striker came In I would be over the moon. After all looking at Klopps signings there is probably more chance of a top class striker coming in than a keeper or centre half.


17.) 18 Nov 2017 21:01:20
"A striker would compliment Mane and Salah not hinder them. "

So you want 3 players scoring 14 goals in 18 matches each?

Come on mate. This is not fantasy football.


18.) 18 Nov 2017 21:32:58
Max 🤦🏻‍♂.


19.) 19 Nov 2017 00:55:31
i am impressed with salah, he is scoring goals from right left and centre, long range headers tap ins you name it.


20.) 19 Nov 2017 02:17:55
The best thing about Salah is we did not buy him for goal scoring. More like attacking outlet on either flank. So there is no pressure on him to score which can only be good thing when a player has goal scoring opportunity.


21.) 19 Nov 2017 03:08:13
Hallo Mr Baytay, "I don't get why people are so obsessed with getting a striker. It's firmino that creates the goals with his movement, his touch and his ability. "

You are wrong. We need a striker who can do what Firmino doing albeit not as well but can rack up 25 goals. There are strikers who can still do it. Like Auba, Lewandowski, Suarez, aguero, Jesus, Griezmann even Sturridge when fit can do it.

But Firmino is not in that class. We need players of that class yet cost us at most 40mil. I believe there are players out there just that Klopp and team not thinking laterally.


22.) 19 Nov 2017 08:42:36
What we are saying is if a top striker plays then Salah does not score as many goals. So that means if Firminho scored his chances yesterday then Salah wouldn't have scored his. How does that even work out they are all separate chances. Unless the striker is stood on both Mane and Salahs toes for the whole game he is not going to be in the same place to steal their chances. A top striker could and I use the word could have stopped us dropping important points in the games that Salah and Mane didn't score in like Utd, Burnley and Newcastle etc this season.


 

 

16 Nov 2017 08:49:14
Regarding Perr Schuurs, it looks pretty much a given that he will sign for us now.

He turns 18 at the end of this Month so we can then sign him straight to a pro-contract in January.

I really hope we don't make the same mistake we made with Thiago Ilori! We have to send Schuurs back there on loan. He is playing senior football (albeit not in a great league) . Just being in a game which is competitive will help him learn though.

Unless he is going straight into the match day squad, leave him where he is to develop!

MK Scouser

1.) 16 Nov 2017 10:44:59
Who/ what position is he? Never heard about him but agree with the sentiment.

{Ed002's Note - A centre back.}


2.) 16 Nov 2017 10:48:50
Is he any good mk?


3.) 16 Nov 2017 10:51:22
Excuse my ignorance MK but are we almost nailed on to sign Schuurs? He looks a talent and seems to have the game intelligence and strength beyond his years already captained his side at 17. As you said if managed right and with right attitude he looks a huge prospect.


4.) 16 Nov 2017 11:33:01
Mk why do you say it looks pretty much a given thing he will sign mate please?

At that age he obviously won't be ready to step in now.


5.) 16 Nov 2017 13:23:27
He has been playing in Fortuna Sittard's first team at 17.


6.) 16 Nov 2017 17:10:43
He has had successful trials at Liverpool already and Liverpool want to make a permanent move for him.

The player is interested, Liverpool want a deal, and his club must be okay with it to allow him to have a trial.

It looks like it's only Liverpool who can screw this up from here. Though i wouldn't entirely rule that out 😂.


 

 

15 Nov 2017 14:22:41
Ed001, with Gomez clearly moving to centre back long term, and Arnold expected to move into midfield eventually, is it possible Clyne may play again when fit with Gomez moving inside next to (hopefully) De Vrij?

I suppose the alternative is Gomez stays at right back and we endure Matip for a bit longer?

Or could we see a right back in January? Seems a lot to ask in a January Window, but a centre back and a right back for me, sorts out our defence. Just need Karius or Ward to step up and we'd be massively improved in my opinion.

Just after your opinion mate.

MK Scouser

{Ed001's Note - I expect the arrival of a new centre back, we have been looking for one for a while. I really do not see Clyne getting back into the team and Gomez and Arnold will provide cover there until someone is brought in. Might not be this summer even.}


1.) 15 Nov 2017 14:38:55
Cheers Ed. Assuming Gomez stays at right back then, who would you play alongside any new centre back?

Matip, Lovren or Klavan? (spoilt for choice)

I think on current form I'd pick Klavan, but if Lovren gets his head straight, he's by far the best of that trio.

{Ed001's Note - Lovren.}


2.) 15 Nov 2017 17:52:08
Hi eds1you say in the post above “mite not be the summer even” about getting a right back I think.
Is there a reason for this. I thought we have been looking for a few windows now.
Also have we got money to spend if needed to fix defence poss goal kicker?
As always thanks for taking the time to answer everyone’s questions 👍🏻.

{Ed001's Note - because the priority is centre backs and replacing the two who are leaving. That leaves right back down the list and there are also two players there that can get regular game time in the slot, so it is not so bad leaving it for now.}


3.) 15 Nov 2017 19:00:42
The 2 that are leaving ed? 🤔.

{Ed001's Note - C&C Music Factory - Couts and Can.}


4.) 15 Nov 2017 19:06:23
Argh right ok mate, sorry I was thinking Centre backs lol. Yeah let's just get rid and move on mate.


5.) 15 Nov 2017 20:36:46
Thanks mate 👍🏼.


6.) 15 Nov 2017 22:42:25
Quite depressing when you say it like that, Ed. I know Couts has been throwing a strop all season and Can wants out for different reasons. However, one is currently world class and I believe the other will one day join the other.

Will the replacements hit the ground running or be the right pick?

One day I’d love a team of scousers who’d play out of their skin and up the standard so we could keep hold of them instead of having to deal with these prima donnas every other year.


7.) 15 Nov 2017 20:39:27
Thing's that make you go humm! Ed😁.

{Ed001's Note - so you remember them? I wasn't sure if anyone would.}


8.) 15 Nov 2017 21:18:17
Ed001 - so does this mean they are both actually leaving? Irony now is unlike last window, we probably all now want it to happen, let’s just hope we get a decent price for Couts and it’s enough to stomach Can going for a free (abroad hopefully so he doesn’t do the usual and come back to haunt us! )

{Ed001's Note - both want out.}


9.) 16 Nov 2017 10:57:21
Toonred - the entire population of Liverpool is less than half a mil. Even the whole of Cheshire is only just a million. The chances of a team of people from that pool alone being good enough to challenge with the best ever again sadly isn't big.


 

 

14 Nov 2017 22:01:58
Joe Gomez gets home tonight and empties his pockets; Coutinho, Neymar, phone, G. Jesus, keys, Marcelo, wallet.

Square T, you be sure to tell our man he was absolutely incredible tonight! £400m worth of attacking talent almost single handedly nullified at times. Wow, the best performance I've seen from an English defender since Ferdinand was in his prime.

MK Scouser

1.) 14 Nov 2017 22:57:51
Not bothered about England but great training session for Joe

He looks like the real deal

Well done but the game on Saturday is more important so keep focused and same again please Joe

Don’t really care if Pipco has a relapse and misses the game as it’s now more his loss than ours.


2.) 15 Nov 2017 08:47:46
I don't think Jurgen should play Coutinho to be honest. He clearly does not want to be with us and couldn't arsed. Always looks like he is playing for himself than for the team. And anyone notice that since he was back in the team, we went through that slump? Then he gets a mysterious injury again, and our form starts to improve. that can't be a coincidence. He can't be good for team morale at the moment. Say what you like about Emre, the boy at least puts in a shift, despite not wanting to be here. He at least is professional. We should have sold Coutinho in the window. I also did not want to see that happen. But I, like most thought he would at least be professional. How wrong I was.


 

 

13 Nov 2017 08:23:37
Cannot wait to see Lallana back. Even if it is just off the bench, his relentless pressing rubs off on other players in the team.

I saw yesterday he was accused of being a poor passer. I think it is fair to see he doesn't have a great passing range, but he is very good at the neat short game around the box which is what we've lacked at times this season.

He links up so well with Firmino, and i can see him and Salah linking well also as Salah likes playing a ball into feet and making a dart in the box hoping for a flicked one-two. Lallana excels at that. Those little flicks, added to his skilful turns and close control make him a nightmare around the box as you risk fouling him if you over commit. His feet are just so quick.

His goal return also isn't bad because he is willing to put himself in there when things get scrappy, and occassionally pulls a stunner out the hat! I won't say we've sorely missed him, but getting a player of that quality back mid-season is always a bonus. Maybe he isn't even first choice anymore, but he is still a very good player who boosts the squad.

MK Scouser

1.) 13 Nov 2017 08:32:20
Yeah I can't wait for him to return mate, he'll be a breath of fresh air. I feel he's another one who's underrated quite alot. Any idea when he does actually return?


2.) 13 Nov 2017 08:34:24
He is a decent CAM who excells when they team is bossing in possession. He also requires space to operate and I don’t know why people think he works like a magician in tight spaces. No he doesn’t! His passing range is bang average one of the main reason he doesn’t drop into the middle to pick the ball forward. I like him for what he does to the team! If someone think he will replace Coutinho then you are living in dream land. He works hard which is a bonus! He is good in link ups play! He is technically one of the best English players currently!


3.) 13 Nov 2017 08:58:47
I haven't seen anybody say he will be replacing Coutinho Harry.


4.) 13 Nov 2017 09:01:33
I like his energy but in truth, I don't think he's a bad passer at all. I think it's his decision making which is a problem. He can move the ball quickly but far often than not delays the pass or runs past a player instead of moving the ball to a lad further up. He can do some really good things on the pitch and I think he has improved but I think we struggle with a quick counter attack.


5.) 13 Nov 2017 09:30:52
Moreover He is 30 and personally I would have sold him last summer. Woodburn should and must replace Lallana if he has any chance to to make it to first team! 5 year contract for a 30 year old player is not what I would prefer personally!


6.) 13 Nov 2017 09:36:51
I think he started training last Friday Corleone.

Harry, Salah replaced Coutinho. You keep saying Coutinho is a midfielder but the FACT is, he has predominantly been a wide forward for us.

Lallana plays in one of the advanced midfield positions where Klopp prioritises the ability to press effectively. Even at Southampton, Lallana played as basically a second striker behind Lambert. He has never been a midfield playmaker.

In possession, he gets as close to the forward line as he can to link the play, and out of possession he puts pressure on the ball. He is creative, but not really a playmaker.

Our midfield as been like a flat line this season. It makes them turgid in possession, and easy to bypass defensively. Lallana breaks the straight line up and puts pressure on the ball higher up pitch. It gives the likes of Henderson more options for a forward pass, and defensively it means the opposition have to get past 2 banks in midfield before they get directly at the defence.

Lallana gives us balance in the 4-3-3. In that system, he is first name on my team sheet to be honest (with our current squad options) . In the 4-4-1-1 we played at West Ham though, i think Lallana only really suits the second striker position Firmino played in behind Salah. As Firmino is better i wouldn't have Lallana starting in that system.

You are very harsh on him Harry. He is a good player. Though aoe nailed it regarding his decision making which can be slow at times. A balanced team is better than shoehorning in all your stars though. Coutinho would probably start in midfield if he could be bothered but with his attitude the way it is, I'd rather have a Lallana lacking match fitness coming off the bench!


7.) 13 Nov 2017 10:16:56
Cheers MK, good to know he's back in training, hopefully see him on the pitch again soon.


8.) 13 Nov 2017 10:26:09
Harry stop obsessing about Coutinho and bringing him into every conversation. the situation of Lallana returning has nothing to do with Coutinho yet you find a way to make it about him again.


9.) 13 Nov 2017 12:51:10
Harry what is your issue with Lallana being 30?

Why have a handful of Liverpool supporters developed this new found obsession with young players? A footballers best years are generally between 27-33 years of age. It is a time when they are still at their physical peak, but vastly experienced.

Our oldest outfield players are Milner and Klavan. None of our first choice starting XI are over 30. Yet people wonder why we lack leaders and game management skills?

Why do you think Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham win nothing? We're all serial bottle jobs because our teams are comparatively inexperienced to Chelsea and the Manchester sides. We sell our best players when they reach their prime or get 'too old' and then replace them with more young players to groom until they too get sold. I'm sick of it.

30 is not old. We haven't won anything since we had Carragher, Agger, Reina, Gerrard, Bellamy, Maxi, and Kuyt. We replaced them all with kids and look at where it's got us.

Our oldest players in our first choice XI are Mignolet, Lallana and Lovren at 29. They should be our leaders, setting the example to the younger guys, showing composure, managing the game on the pitch. Unfortunately, 2 of our most experienced first choice players are liabilities. Therefore, Lallana is vital to us for his leadership and experience if nothing else.

Only having 2 players aged over 30 at the club is ridiculous and it is no wonder our teams lacks leadership and experience. Leadership isn't exclusive to older players, but it does clearly become more common in the older players. Sorry lads, rant over. That subject just really grinds my gears.


10.) 13 Nov 2017 13:02:04
The last major trophy we won, we had Dudek, Finnan, Hyypia, Hamann and Smicer around 30+years old.

We also had Gerrard, Alonso, Traore, Cisse, Carragher, Riise, Baros, Kewell and Garcia all mid to late 20's. Absolutely unreal that some people expect to get back to that level by selling anyone who dares to turn 29 years old!


11.) 13 Nov 2017 13:38:05
I am not saying i agree with eithers opinion on age of a player but Bob paisley would look to move on players passing 30.I think he once said he would prefer a player to lose his legs on somebody else field.
I agree that in these times that having experienced players in the squad is a good thing but offering long contracts to 30 somethings is a no no for me.


12.) 13 Nov 2017 13:58:54
Bob Paisley moved players on who got too old because in those days it wasn't so much a squad game, and it also wasn't as expensive to refresh your team every 12-24 months.

Nowadays, you can have a 36 year old in the squad who only plays 20 games a season. In Paisley's time, you usually had a much smaller squad so players needed to play more like 40 games a season.

It is also worth noting that in the 70's and 80's, medical science was nothing compared to today. So by 30 years old, most players were in bits playing with pins in joints, injections to fight pain, bad backs, volatile knees etc. Nowadays, players are under far less strain, so what was 30 in Paisley's day is more like 35-40 in the modern game.

Also, Paisley still made exceptions. Dalglish signed at 27 years old and played well into his 30's before turning player-manager.

I agree there is no right or wrong here. It's all opinions. For me though, modern players are protected so much and looked after so well that unless they have individual injury problems, you should easily be able to play until 35-40. Comparing eras throws up too many variables. Alonso retired at 36 and he was still the best midfielder in the world the day he hung up his boots, in my opinion.


13.) 13 Nov 2017 15:37:44
I think experience is important, but don't think lallana brings that, he's not a winner. We need someone who has been there and won things the experience needed to keep us cool when we're 1-0 up with ten left, or to bring us forward when we aren't playing well!


14.) 13 Nov 2017 17:14:11
Gerrard and Carragher had a couple of seasons too many for me. And i believe Bob Paisley would have edge them out sooner if he had been in charge. As for Kenny Dalglish he was actually dropped by Paisley in Bobs last season in charge so who knows if he would have played has many times for the reds if Paisley stayed in charge. No arguments about keeping players on short contracts in there 30s, as no one knows when them legs are going to go.


15.) 13 Nov 2017 19:06:30
Changed your tune on Lallana ey MK. A few months back you thought he should be nowhere near the team because he had a big mouth. Nice to see you broadening your horizons!
This isn't a dig by the way, I was appauled when we signed him. How he's proven so many doubters wrong.


 

 

 

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15 Nov 2017 14:08:12
This is just the media trying to destabilise a player with some controversy as per usual, to sell a story.

What better to generate euphoria and turn the fans against Can, than to suggest he is holding the club to ransom?

Parasites.

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15 Nov 2017 13:58:11
City can't afford him 😉.

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15 Nov 2017 10:53:35
Liverpool are looking to De Vrij and Schuurs.

De Vrij could happen in January as per the Eds.

Schuurs is probably more likely in the summer and would be with the u23's for a season or 2 anyway, in my opinion.

I think Lovren may move on in the summer. I can't imagine he wants to stay here after what has happened in the last year and he has to do what is best for him and his family. They probably don't even feel safe in their own home anymore.

Gomez, De Vrij, Matip and Klavan seems like a decent set of centre backs in my opinion so hopefully the club don't bugger these ones up! What i will say is Klopp really should look to play a deeper line because De Vrij, Matip and Klavan are all more suited to that. We look better on the break any way than when we just pass it from left to right against a banked up defence.

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13 Nov 2017 16:28:34
Firmane, Can and Goretzka can and have easily played together.

Can is slightly more defensive, and also the better passer, whereas Goretzka is better in air and a better shooter.

They are similar in terms of physique, mobility and style of play. Both players like to pick up the ball and drive forward (more with power than skill) . Can tends to start from deeper though and at the end of his runs he usually looks for a pass whereas Goretzka would have an eye on the goal every time.

Both great players. Similar in some ways, but as Ed002 suggested, very different capabilities. Germany won the Confederations Cup with them both playing alongside each other in midfield. So Juventus wouldn't hesitate to sign them both, I'm sure. Hopefully we end up with one of them in red next season; whichever it is! Neither really thrive when it comes to pressing, but perhaps Klopp now realises that not every midfield player has to just run around like a headless chicken!

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13 Nov 2017 15:35:45
Cheers Ed.

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21 Nov 2017 08:48:30
Cheers aoe! For as long as even one person appreciates it, I'll continue to make the effort!

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21 Nov 2017 06:38:18
Cheers for reading guys and thanks for all the replies. Good post by the way Ings n Things.

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20 Nov 2017 21:14:42
Hi Stg. Apologies if it came across like that. I think we'll be just fine without Coutinho. He's barely played this season and we've done fine. I just couldn't sit there and lie about how good he is! Because let's be honest, he is superb.

Johncrow Jr, thanks you mate. Appreciate the feedback.

Tezza-M that's fine mate. Thanks for taking time out of your day to read anyway. Hopefully you'll enjoy the next one more.

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20 Nov 2017 18:07:45
I'm actually writing an article covering all the Coutinho replacements in the Sharkopod. I largely agree with you though Kloppsreds17. Meyer and Lemar are two of the better options. Article should be up in the next 15 minutes. I just need to spell check it 😂.

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20 Nov 2017 13:52:50
Really well constructed post. Disagree on some points, but also you make some great points. We'll done Putney. Enjoyed reading that one.

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