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28 May 2018 05:54:01 you think we will target any goal keeper this summer? Thank you.


{Ed002's Note - I don't think there is any doubt at all that at least one goalkeeper will be added this summer.}

1.) 28 May 2018 08:37:41
I am just hoping that if/ when we go for another first choice keeper we don't do a half job. Don't go out and get a Butland or someone of that standard just to fill a hole. Do a proper job, get a proper number 1, Oblak, Alisson or anyone of their sort of calibre.

2.) 28 May 2018 09:31:00
Fans may want Oblak or Alisson. But I doubt both Butland and Fabianski will come to replace Mignolet, Ward and Bogdan. Karius will stay cuz no club is willing to rescue his career.

3.) 28 May 2018 09:29:38
Butland will surprise a lot of people. Similar lines to Robertson and the Ox 👍.

4.) 28 May 2018 09:49:47
Really, stop talking about RESCUING the career of Karius, no one is judged by a single game, however horrible it may be. Bring the summer and next season already. Since Karius and Van Dijk started playing, we have been a different team in defence, 17 clean sheets for the season, third after United and City, on 19 and 18, ahead of Chelsea and Tottenham on 16, how bad is that?! Karius has 10 clean sheets in 19 games, remember those as well. He sucked, badly, on Saturday, still has 10 more years left to play and could grow to be a rock if he manages to get through this nightmare.

5.) 28 May 2018 09:52:51
Hopefully Ron if he arrives.

6.) 28 May 2018 10:00:41
Just guessing of course, but the clubs thinking may be that although Butland isn't currently top quality, he is generally pretty decent, and perhaps he can be coached to an acceptable level- and maybe they think there are more urgent priorities for the transfer funds this summer?
What was also interesting was that the much-maligned Keylor Navas barely put a foot wrong all night.
I wonder if people think he is now of acceptable quality, after watching him play well?

7.) 28 May 2018 10:06:50
Navas stayed planted to his line when we scored and we barely troubled him. He’s not the answer.

8.) 28 May 2018 10:09:55
whz, stats do make sense, but please count all of his blunders, not only clean sheets.

9.) 28 May 2018 11:24:22
If we buy a new number one, there will be no point keeping Karius. He'll just sit on the bench and maybe get a few cup games.

10.) 28 May 2018 12:49:23
Yes, well, I didn't say that he looks world class to me, or hedoesn't do any blunders, but, believe it or not, Oliver Kahn failed to control a pass of his own teammate, you can check, its a Bayern - Goteborg 1997/ 98 champions league match.

So I was just saying something in the lines of "Stop talking abour Karius as if he's the worst keeper in the top 5 leagues", because he is far, far, far, far from that and there would be many clubs that would take him as their number one.

11.) 28 May 2018 12:42:53
Hi ed would there be a change in the goalkeeper coach.

{Ed002's Note - I would not have thought so, he is close to Klopp, provides input from the bench, gets the subs ready and deals with the fourth official. I am not aware of any plans to change him but maybe the club will look for a whole new backroom staff - but as I say I am not aware of that being the plan.}

12.) 28 May 2018 12:58:32
Fully behind your comments whz.
We xan be different and actually support the kid at his lower point.

13.) 28 May 2018 13:01:40
Ed- that’s a major concern for me.
We could get Oblak or Allison but they could get the same GK coaching input we’ve had in place since 2011.

The GK’s will have to do what Achterberg is coaching them to do if they know he has influence on JK and selection.

I think we need to look at this area of coaching as cananyone day any of our keepers have got better under his watch?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of what Achterberg has done wrong. I assume you think he told Karius to roll the ball to Benzema? And did he tell him to let the shot slip over the line? Karius was the choice of someone else - shouldn't he be held to blame? After all it was him the on a number of occasions has made statements about who is number one, number two and number three - switching each time? Would you have been saying this if Liverpool had won the last game 3-0?

14.) 28 May 2018 13:25:23
For me, im in full support of what ed01 said.

If there is a need to change, get a top class goalkeeper.

If not, just stick to Karius.

To add on to this. If we stick with Karius, give Ward a chance to be back-up. If Ward wanna leave, get someone in as an able 2nd choice. Butland is fine.

15.) 28 May 2018 15:27:47
Guys im all for supporting karius in his summer of need. Guy needs some well wishes after what happened.

I hope he comes back stronger.

Im not having a karius out rant here and i've stated before in other posts that the simple fact of the matter is he will never be anywhere near a top class bracket of goalkeepers. Final aside there has been plenty of evidence of this. Age aside his handling and decision making is really poor. He is a decent shot stopper but even then most times he saves shots with his wrists and pushes the ball straight out when it should be to the side. Whether that's down to coaching or not i don't know. But the evidence is there that both keepers seem to repeat the same mistakes over and over. If they are coached to shot stop the way the do it is a serious problem and a new gk coach needs to come in.

To win top trophies on a regular basis you need a world class goal keeper.

The fact of the matter is that there might not be any that want to come this summer or a deal may prove to difficult to get over the line.

If butland is signed he will easily become number 1 at liverpool. He is a better goal keeper than karius pure and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise may just have the red tinted glasses on. 20 million for butland would be a steal in my opinion.

16.) 28 May 2018 15:39:53
I guess it is You'll Never Walk Alone as long you win us silverware. Otherwise don't let the door hit you on the way out.

17.) 28 May 2018 16:07:57
Wolverine, I’m presuming you don’t remember that shocker when Butland virtually threw into his own net against Everton. He isn’t an upgrade on Karius.

18.) 28 May 2018 16:39:14
To be fair FranklyMrShankly. You can pick out mistakes from every gk in the world. Including best in premiership de gea had a a lot when 1st arrived and as good as he was let in a few soft goals this season. I personally feel Butland though not my 1st choice. But possibly most realistic choice, could surprise a few as mane, salah, ox and Robertson have. In a better team with better players, and a management team who seem to install confidence and excitement.

19.) 28 May 2018 17:24:34
If Karius is being picked on because of making critical unforced errors, it makes literally no sense to buy a keeper who not only makes those mistakes, but makes worse and has a history of long term injury. It’s utterly illogical. I’d rather stand by Karius than throw however many millions down the toilet on Butland.

20.) 28 May 2018 17:18:42
Good post Wolvetine and MrShankly I’m sorry but Butland is a big upgrade on Karius. Don’t mention one mistake by Butland as your justification unless you want to put up te longest post of the day by mentioning all Karius’s mistakes.

I remember the great Ray Clemence letting a tame Dalglish shot through h his legs in an England v Scotland game, so they all make them. The only reason I remember it is because it was so rare.

21.) 28 May 2018 18:12:14
It’s more than one mistake though this season from Butland, he’s made multiple mistakes which is why he’s dropped down the England pecking order quite some way, in fact it’s fair to say he has been culpable for a fair amount of the goals Stoke conceded this season when he has played and his performances have been worse than Karius. That Everton own goal was the one that stood out the most, if anything it was worse than the one Karius conceded because he almost almost threw it in the net sideways. Against us he looked ropey and it’s only because we were knackered and only had two shots on target that they didn’t concede. He simply is not an upgrade. Going after Butland is repeating every mistake we’ve made in buying keepers over the last few years. He’s a mid table player at best with a big question mark over his fitness and that isn’t worth wasting the massive fee that Stoke will be demanding.

22.) 28 May 2018 19:40:12
Mr shankly

Im not judging karius on the final. Im judging him on every time i've watched him. In my opinion he is not long term no 1 material.

All goal keepers make clangers now an again.

The only reason i talked about butland is because the chat on here seems to be that he is a likely target.

When you compare butland and karius butland is a better keeper. In my opinion if he is the only keeper we sign he will easily become number one.

He has made mistakes but he also had quite a few worldly games over the years.

Butland has been between the sticks at the alamo this season.

Let me put it this way if karius had been playing for stoke this season not one person here would be looking us to sign him.

Like i said in my first post im not on a karius out crusade. I really feel for the guy and he most certainly wasnt the only reason we lost on saturday night. I really hope he improves and would love nothing more than him to be a world class keeper in 5 years time. Im just saying that i really don't see it happening and so he's not a long term number one in my opinion.

When you talk (hope) about challenging for the league and look at areas that need improving in our team to be able do so its impossible not to look at goalkeeper as one of them.

23.) 02 Jun 2018 14:01:40
I am stating that our GK coach has been in place since 2011 and that in that time our GK’s have not improved.

So no- I’m not suggesting Achterberg told Karius to drop a couple of clangers in the final by any stretch- more a longer term view about how our keepers have or haven’t progressed over 7 seasons.

{Ed002's Note - How do you measure goalkeeper improvement. Karius wasn't at the club in 2011. Aside from Achterberg being an employee of the club and therefore being fair game for the supporters to attack him, I am not aware of anything he has specifically done wrong. Perhaps he is not getting the best material to work with - in which case you need to kick whoever decided to bring Karius to the club out?}



06 Apr 2018 02:52:18
Can I hope for Isco eds? for us next summer.


{Ed002's Note - If you are a Manchester City fan.}

1.) 06 Apr 2018 09:24:33
Another terrible move for the player imo. Wasted 5 seasons being a rotational player at Real and not improved one bit since winning the Golden Boy award. Best of luck to him trying to displace KDB or Silva from the starting lineup. Man City hoarding up all the talent that they can get their hands on.

2.) 06 Apr 2018 09:41:57
reports are that City have dropped interest in him.

3.) 06 Apr 2018 09:49:51
Silva is in twilight of his career. Isco will be his replacement. In two years time Silva will be phased out with isco being a focal point along with kdb.

4.) 06 Apr 2018 09:54:56
Isco is a very good player imo and featured inside the top 10 ACM of Ed01’s list. He is skillful and has a superb vision to pick players. He would excel under any manager. Better than Bale on any day!

5.) 06 Apr 2018 10:24:59
Isco doesn’t have another 2 years to wait he needs to be playing now.

6.) 06 Apr 2018 10:50:41
Isn't Silvas partner still out in Spain and I think his newly born baby had some kind of complications. I wouldn't be surprised to see Silva go back to Spain this summer to be with his family.

{Ed001's Note - it was a premature baby wasn't it? He has always said he wants to go back to Spain to end his career.}

7.) 06 Apr 2018 11:13:02
Ed01 I think so mate. I didn't want to guess as it's obviously a personal matter. I think City might let him go back on his terms as a thank you for his service as long as it's not to a Real or Barca. His head hasn't looked with it since the birth and who could blame him. But that's just my 2 pence worth.

8.) 06 Apr 2018 11:20:09
My little boy Toby was born 10 weeks early, he can out at 3lb 2 and went down to 2b 11. He was in an incubator for 4 weeks, then in care for a further three weeks.

I was working away in London at the time and was only back at weekends to see him. It’s was the most stressful period of my life so if Silva’s wife is back in Spain, I understand how he feels.

Toby had a bleed on his brain, was deaf in one ear
and one of his eyes were not functioning correctly. Thankfully all the problems corrected themselves while he was in hospital and he’s now a feisty little 4 year old and has fully caught up.

If I had the opportunity to speak to David Silva I’d tell him keep strong and have faith. The work the Neonatal Nursers do and their absolute commitment and professionalism to their job is fantastic.

If it wasn’t for the nurses, I wouldn’t be enjoying my gorgeous son today and taking him to Little Kickers in his LFC football kit ion a Saturday morning.

9.) 06 Apr 2018 12:16:42
Toby sounds like a great fighter Drogie. Perfect LFC material. Train him well my man :)

10.) 06 Apr 2018 12:19:16
Drogie - good to hear everything is now ok mate. God bless.

11.) 06 Apr 2018 16:16:46
Drogie great to hear the little man is doing well.

12.) 06 Apr 2018 17:20:25
Thank you chaps 👍.

13.) 06 Apr 2018 17:21:15
You are well and truly a gem Drogie, My second fav poster after negative ☺️☺️☺️.

14.) 06 Apr 2018 18:55:12
Thank you mate, that’s what I love about this site 👍.

15.) 07 Apr 2018 08:52:16
God bless little Toby the Red and little Silva 👍.



08 Jun 2017 01:54:54
Have we turned to de Vrij?


1.) 08 Jun 2017 04:52:19
I did. For a four pack. It's going to be a loong summer.



06 Jun 2017 07:06:36
No airport or cousin rumour till now. hope they start soon🤓🤓.


{Ed025's Note - you can be sure they will liverbird..

1.) 06 Jun 2017 10:27:40
I can confirm my cousin is currently rumoured to be at an airport, I will keep you updated.

2.) 06 Jun 2017 11:07:28
Turned out to not be true, he was at a train station.

{Ed025's Note - love it angry..




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10 Sep 2018 15:24:06
Ed02 I have a question for you. a goalkeeper has got a back pass. can he handle it after he touches it with his leg? not direct handling when he recieves the pass. but to touch it with his leg and then hold it is it allowed? Thank you.


{Ed002's Note - No.)

1.) 10 Sep 2018 19:14:16
I've got a better question. Has Anyone ever seen a Baby pigeon? coz I ain't.

2.) 10 Sep 2018 19:24:34
No but i know they're called a squab (aren't they? )

3.) 10 Sep 2018 20:14:34
yep I have and they start off black then turn grey.

4.) 10 Sep 2018 20:20:53
Hey now you mention it I have never seen a baby pigeon!

5.) 10 Sep 2018 20:45:39
I saw a dead baby pigeon once. So can confirm they definitely exist.

Better question: if a deaf person sees you yawn, do they think you're shouting?



22 Aug 2018 11:01:03
Ok ed02 sometime back I asked you like around February. who dk you feel is better? Eric Bailly or VVD?
I personally feel its not even a contest to be honest! every manu fan i meet feels their guy is honest but some of the numbers of ours since vvd has joined defensively has been really good. your opinion will be the actual thing so what your opinion mate?
Thnx for your good work! always appreciate u guys eds.


{Ed002's Note - I have no recollection of that but I would think most people would agree that van Dijk would be the better player - or certainly the player most clubs would prefer to have.}

1.) 22 Aug 2018 12:49:37
He’s a special player; the fee we paid is a reflection of his ability.

Certainly no bargain but an exceptional signing. Probably our best with Salah in the last 10 years.

2.) 22 Aug 2018 13:22:51
Has anybody seen him in the flesh. The guy is an absolute monster in real life. He Looks big on TV but blimey the lads built like an American Fridge Freezer.

3.) 22 Aug 2018 14:24:53
I absolutely love Big Virg, he's added so much since he's come in and I'd say he's got the edge in that contest (although, I'm sure there's an element of bias there) .

I do also really rate Bailly too. I think he's had some issues with injuries, but he's their best defender in my estimations. He's also pretty young, so he should only get better.

4.) 22 Aug 2018 16:23:43
Bailly is too rash and lacks the technique of VVD. VVD is a colossus of a centre back. Best since Hyypia.

5.) 22 Aug 2018 17:26:47
Eric is the best partner in the league.

Vvd is the best leader in the league.

If we had snatch Bailly from villa and could have partnered him with vvd then oh my giddy ant, best partnership in the world.

But fear not Gomez could get to Bailly level in a few years.

{Ed025's Note - have you lot ever seen bailly?, bloody useless..

6.) 22 Aug 2018 20:12:27
He's brilliant ed, not a leader, but name a better partner for vvd.

He had Lovren looking like Maldini. Lovren, Bailly, these players need good leaders next to them to make them flourish.

{Ed025's Note - i must be watching the wrong bailly KB..

7.) 22 Aug 2018 20:43:33
I’m with you Ed there. I’ve watched Bailly closely since he joined Utd because I was being told he will be the best in the league. I’ve not seen 1 bit of evidence to suggest that will ever happen.

{Ed025's Note - me neither bobby, utd shipped 3 against a very average brighton attack in the first half last week and he was the main culprit mate..

8.) 22 Aug 2018 21:56:15
Not my cup of tea, has a tendency to rely o blame pace to recover instead of anticipating danger . Eds did mention a while ago that most if not all moder defenders struggle with that.

9.) 23 Aug 2018 02:45:01
Wow Kloppsboss you’ve made some OUTRAGEOUS claims there “he had Lovren looking like Maldini”.


{Ed0333's Note - Oh let kloppsboss be fantastical Ron...Salah will be back soon to real him in 🤣

10.) 25 Aug 2018 11:24:15
Sorry must of watched the wrong team get to the champions league final, shut out man city and barely concede a goal from when vvd joined.

My point is Lovren is good, Bailly is better, if vvd turned Lovren into a better defender than we all expected then what could he do with Bailly next to him.

{Ed002's Note - Remember he only had to play half a season and was on strike for the rest of it.}



14 Aug 2018 14:43:10
Ed01 actually there is a bit of a problem. there has been no broadcaster assigned for champions league in my country. its pretty annoying. i just wanted to know does our lfc tv go broadcast live champions league matches? it doens not broadcast pl matches 😣😣😣.


{Ed001's Note - I don't know but UEFA will broadcast it on their site or give details mate.}

1.) 15 Aug 2018 01:50:19
Not live but they post the full match a day or so after as soon as the TV rights allow by region.



13 Aug 2018 05:56:28
Mo Salah scored at 19th min to indicate to the world that this is number 19 for us! And ed01 i think i get it now. the reason karius looked bad for us. you literally have nothing to do for some 50 min and suddenly bam a shot. you need 100% conc. eh?


{Ed001's Note - yes mate and he didn't have the concentration level. Plus he just isn't at the same level as Alisson anyway. At their best Alisson is head and shoulders above Karius, even if he was stood on Mignolet's shoulders at the time.}

1.) 13 Aug 2018 08:12:21
I can't wait to read the review is it coming today ed? im really excited for this season. wow keita looked absolutely delicious 😋😋.

{Ed001's Note - as soon as I get a chance to rewatch the game yes mate.}

2.) 13 Aug 2018 08:44:37
My eyes rolled when Allison hit that pass straight to as west ham player on the 2nd half lol. But all was well.



12 Aug 2018 05:24:00
Hello eds and fellow fans!

Today's the day that we have all been waiting for. New season. new beginnings. hope can be a cruel thing at times. but at the same time its what that keeps us going. we last won the league title 28 seasons ago. some of us who are of younger gen have never watched us win big things. dominating the world like our beloved club should. we have had some pretty close ones. well this is our big chance. we have a great squad. in fact its been the best squad since. well forever. our owners have backed our guardian. who other clubs call as manager. when we are at our best no team can stop us in the league. but what about when we aren't? last season we dropped massive points against the top 6.the previous we dropped against the rest. we have to. no we all believe in klopp. we all believe in our players. let's give them a hell of a welcome today at Anfield. our boys will do the rest. I know all of you are also nervous. I have been, there is no shame in that. All of you who are lucky enough to go to anfield today. give'm hell. for WE ARE LIVERPOOL.



1.) 12 Aug 2018 06:08:05
well said mate. this season is a big opportunity to do big things. our manager is great, our squad is one of the best it has been in a long time and it looks like the whole squad is hungry for silverware. i think we need to start the season well and go into the man city game (matchday 8) within reach of going top if we beat them and the best way to do that is to give the lads a good welcome. YNWA.




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28 Sep 2018 12:59:58
Still going to be ok? sorry for pestering but that press conference has me worried ೦1.


{Ed001's Note - they are not sure but he should be ok. Hard to tell with the mind games that go on.}



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25 May 2018 05:15:12
What will happen to ox then?




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24 May 2018 05:56:01
Wanted to request u ed01.while making our season review right. make four parts.1-summer transfer window,2-season till end of December,3-winter transfer window, 4-season from jan till our cup victory! Is that ok?


{Ed001's Note - I very much doubt I will have time for that mate, sorry. I will have to see, but the World Cup is going to cut into my free time during the close season.}



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18 May 2018 03:08:00
Is tarkowski any better than lovren? other than that. why would we pay high figure for dembele when he is imjury prone? and may not even get into front three? rest all i wouldnlove to see here. hope you are fine Macca.




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01 May 2018 14:58:39
Dead leg will depend on the player. of the player doesn't feel 100% it's always better not to play them.





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05 Oct 2018 02:02:42
Im going to go today!


{Ed001's Note - enjoy mate.}



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05 Oct 2018 02:02:11
Im really sorry ed. but it hurts to even think about it. must have been difficult for you to watch it again.


{Ed001's Note - nightmare mate. Still it is the only game so far this season that has been an issue.}



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28 Sep 2018 00:55:47
Please don't defend Klopp for it. i find it really wierd that kose is getting blamed for the same thing then klopp is getting praised? what u smoking media?




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27 Sep 2018 13:08:33
We definetly need VVD ed. im confused who the most important player is! A. Becker? vvd? bobby? salah? mane? well. let's just agree that we need our team! every Liverpool fan will want epl above eberything. if playing once a week helps. then so be it. but ofcourse i want us to win everything too. but as ed02 pointed out. league winning is really important for the club as owners r backing on it. we need to lesses the debt no matter what.




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27 Sep 2018 06:57:36
Just take positives from the game reds. we know now that kante doesn't fit for this system. plus that Azpilicueta can be prone for odd poor pass. and sturridge did ok. no where near Bobby though. though they did play a few starters just like us did other than hazard we don't have to worry about rest. and pressing is a weakness to jorginho's game. just watch their encounter against city. we are better than any team at pressing. we can have a field day. and about negatives. olwe desperately need vvd. and lovren or matip can't be above joe. clynes attacking instinct isn't as great as taa's. won't even go about moreno's. mane might be rested for shaqiri this week according to me. we also have to think about cl game this midweek. Mignolet was good for me. did 2 stops well. nothing he could do about noth goals . maybe he could have parried the ball to the other end for their goal but im not complaining. it hurts but let's move on . we have a chance to obtain revenge . without rudigers pace their defense is pretty slow. since emerson won't start. can target that flank as alonso isn't the quickest. and david lui is david luiz. well on to next!


{Ed025's Note - heres what i gleaned from the game liverbird...liverpool,s first team is excellent but the squad not so much, van dijk is the best signing the reds have made in many a year and is the most important player in the club, forget all this fabinho is taking time to settle garbage...hes a lemon pure and simple, i still think liverpool win win the league but if they get injuries to key players they are in trouble..