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17 Jun 2019 17:13:48
Any truth to the rumours we are negotiating with Barcelona for dembele eds?

It's likely he'll leave Barcelona this summer with coutinho but some journalists are reporting we have been in touch with barca.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any negotiations.}

1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:40:41
3! Dembele questions in the space of two hours - all answered with the most minimal of fuss.
Just another thank you for all the you do and are (Ed) dies!

2.) 17 Jun 2019 22:11:35
If the stories about his off field behaviour are true- and let's face it, we don't know for sure do we- but if they are, then the club will be aware, and they will surely steer clear of his lad at £90m, however gifted he is.

3.) 18 Jun 2019 08:23:06
I hope not, Barcelona are like any club and made a desperate signing to appease fans that Neymar had gone, the lads not all that at all, hope we don't touch him.

4.) 18 Jun 2019 11:01:12
Hi Eds,

You say there has been no negotiations but is it a player we have an interest in?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any discussions with Barcelona and again he would be a Salah replacement- or is he a Dembele replacement - who replaced Pepe who replaced Salah.

5.) 18 Jun 2019 12:29:34
Lol ed02. But again he plays on the opposite side to salah, same with sane. Dembele was looked at last year i remember, or there was a lot of talk. Macca predicted we'd sign him.

I think to call the lad "not all that" is way way off the mark. He's a fine footballer and i think he'd be brilliant in the premier league. A club like liverpool and a boss like klopp is just what the lad needs. Too young to write him off. Some are debating whether wilson should get a shot and the two lads are pretty close in age. Only one has played for dortmund and Barcelona the other has played for derby.

If we can sign him we should. I would see him more of a Danny Sturridge replacement than a Salah one. DS came to us as a forward/ winger who scored goals.

{Ed001's Note - the lad is an idiot of Neymar proportions though. Steer clear please.}



05 Apr 2019 10:13:05
Question for ed001 if possible,

I was curious about Keita. He's had a full season to adapt to the UK and seems to have really struggled. On the pitch he's not really shown that he can bring anything new or different to the team, which I assume was the purpose for buying him.

I'm sure that his lack of integration with the other players off the pitch and him not bothering to learn English are at least two key things.

My question is will Liverpool look to sell in the summer or does Klopp still feel he can coax something out of him?



{Ed001's Note - I expect him to stay. He was very close friends with Mane, it was hoped that would make him buck up his ideas. He won't be given for ever to sort his head out though.}

1.) 05 Apr 2019 11:37:32
I was really excited with the news we had finally agreed a deal for naby and was expecting him to have had a better season than he's having so far. I just cannot believe, if as pointed out by ed01 he has a poor attitude why he wouldn't grasp the chance he has with both hands. He has so much potential and so many positive attributes it would be such a waste of talent. Fingers crossed he pulls his finger out, so to speak.

2.) 05 Apr 2019 11:43:59
"Was" ed? Or am I reading too much into that sentence?

{Ed001's Note - no you're not. They are certainly not as close as they had been at RBS. Mane has grown up, Keita has not yet done so.}

3.) 05 Apr 2019 13:15:24
Something doesn't seem right with him, its almost like his not even trying. I really hope he comes good.

4.) 05 Apr 2019 13:52:35
Ed, thanks for the reply.
Makes me a bit sad tbh. For Keita. i know he has his baggage (described by ed002 previous) . Maybe we forget at times these guys might be millionaires but still are young kids in a foreign land.
Doing it with the expectations and then also not being as close with who may have been your guy once you arrive must be tough.
Hopefully things will get better for him and then - for him in the Liverpool team.

{Ed001's Note - it is his own fault, he has not made the efforts needed to get on. He had a year before joining to learn the language, it has now been nearly two years, and yet he has not bothered. For me that should have been written into his contract and should be included in all future contracts that a player has to learn English. You don't want a player being an Antonio Valencia and never bothering, it is not good for team spirit.}

5.) 05 Apr 2019 14:12:18
I read an interview by Mane today on the LFC website that states that Naby is a regular visitor to Mane's house, so they must still be at least civil to each other. From Mane's comments there doesn't appear to be any falling out or anything. But, hey, who knows?

{Ed001's Note - as close mate, I never said they were not friends, just not like they were. They were completely inseparable, best mates who did everything together. Mane now has other friends, they have not fallen out, they are just not as close.}

6.) 05 Apr 2019 19:04:24
Well he's starting tonight. Let's all hope he does the team proud.

7.) 06 Apr 2019 03:27:49
geez, started a fire under the worry worts there ed1. . .
keita will come right. I hope he'll come right, I don't think he's been a pile poo this season. So not a giant leap towards filling his potential with us. Mane is also older. ed1, for different reasons wouldn't you say Keita needs to mature just like Mane to improve his game?

{Ed001's Note - exactly what he needs.}

8.) 06 Apr 2019 10:20:46
Let's hope the goal last night inspires him to have a big end to the season minimum of 7 matches left this season let's go and smash them.

9.) 08 Apr 2019 14:14:52
Thanks for the reply ed. I got super busy so didn't read this until now.

I work as a psychologist in US sports and one of the first requirements of the teams I work with for incoming foreign players is to learn English.

Interestingly I consulted for a German Bundesliga team a couple of years ago and speaking English was also a requirement there too as it's considered a universal language which will benefit players wherever they go.

It really surprises me how often teams don't enforce a rule of players speaking the native language. It's pretty vital for team integration and communication and in my professional opinion I've advised it's not a good idea to simply have a couple of players speaking the same language as an incoming player because it creates cliques and tension.

Thanks again for the reply ed.

{Ed001's Note - this is the first time I have known of a Liverpool player not being required to speak English. Normally it is enforced strictly. I wonder if there is more to it with Keita, it is possible he just struggles with it and so there is not being pressure put on him because of that.}



26 Mar 2019 21:15:13
Federico Chiesa is taking English lessons.

Make of it what you will but the last time I posted this it was about coutinho about 6 months before we signed him.


1.) 27 Mar 2019 00:52:59
Ground , Italian footballer taking English lessons!

2.) 27 Mar 2019 01:20:29
Definitely going to Chelsea then - if he was really committed he’d be learning Scouse!

3.) 27 Mar 2019 10:43:42
Would love to see Chiesa in a Liverpool shirt. He is extremely mature as a player considering he's only 21. Scored a hat trick against Roma this season. Reminds me a lot of Sterling at the same age. It's only a matter of time before he starts scoring 20 goals a season.

4.) 27 Mar 2019 13:34:34
Heard a lot about this fella MK but never watched him play. Other than the sterling similarities do you know much else about him? I know he's very well thought of.

5.) 27 Mar 2019 14:10:08
Istanbul I've only seen him a when I've been watching Roma play Fiorentina. He has a low centre of gravity, protects the ball well at pace, and is pretty handy on either foot. He's predominantly a right footed right winger though. Very composed on the ball and in front of goal. He needs to work on his crossing and his one touch passing from what I've seen but he's such a superb talent. Those deficiencies can hold him back though as if a defender just stands off him he doesn't have the quality to deliver from deeper areas or the one touch passing brain to consistently play around them with a one-two. They rate him massively in Italy though and his potential is there for all to see. Klopp would get the best from him for sure.

{Ed002's Note - As a replacement for Salah then?}

6.) 27 Mar 2019 14:36:58
Question Ed002,

at what stage do the players we sign stop becoming replacements and start becoinmg additions to the squad. If we want a team to compete on all fronts without straining positions shouldn't we be looking to add more quality depth?

Obviously on the right its different with Shaqiri being there unless he was moved more central.

{Ed002's Note - The expectations of many of the fans are completely unrealistic with them thinking numerous £100M players will be added to give the squad depth. Liverpool are not in the position to make such purchases at all. Squad depth comes from having players who are content to come in and play when required and not players who demand playing time. Liverpool need decent cover for certain positions, not the “marquee” signings many of the fans expects the change in stance to try and buy the league cannot go on much longer.}

7.) 27 Mar 2019 16:11:59
C'mon Ed002 don't burst, we are only asking for Dybala, Chiesa, Icardi, Werner, Fekir, Depay, it is all doable. My uncle's mate's mechanic is in the know. Because his mailman's dog groomer once cut the arse hair of the gatekeeper's leopard at Melwood.

8.) 27 Mar 2019 16:17:04
Ed002, I didn't think Chiesa would have been a big Marquee signing, however I've just seen his €70 asking price. *gulp* I miss the days when you could get players like Torres for 24m.

Thanks Eds.

{Ed002's Note - I did not realise they dropped the price so far - a higher price was told to at least two sides who have held discussions with Fiji about him. Another side is looking for discussions as soon as they can - I will be able to find out what they are asked as well.}

9.) 27 Mar 2019 16:40:50
Maybe Ed002. If someone comes in with a huge offer and Salah wants to go, we'd be silly to force him to stay. Chiesa would be an ideal replacement. He's played 96% of Fiorentina's games according to Transfermarkt so I doubt he'd be interested in anything other than being an automatic starter. 12 goals before we're even in April is a good return considering he plays for a mid table team.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about a move to Liverpool. Last week Dybala was @nailed on@.}

10.) 27 Mar 2019 16:49:10
Yeah of course Ed, I've already got Dybala 7 on the back of my replica shirt 😉.

11.) 27 Mar 2019 09:48:19
I don't think he is going to Chelsea they bought Pulisic.
He is a really Good in fm 2019! I bought him for Inter de Milan and Won the Serie A and Italy Cup.

12.) 28 Mar 2019 12:45:36
No reason not to keep tabs on the likes of Chiesa, Werner, Sancho, etc.

Not because we should spend 100m on backups, but because players' agents are talking to other clubs all the time (that's their job), and any sensible club will stay on top of the transfer market in case they need to find a replacement for any player at any time.

And yes, I'm talking specifically about our number 11.

After Torres, Suarez, Coutinho, etc I'm sure none of us are naive about how the football world works.

{Ed002's Note - What are you talking about ‘keep tabs on’ - how would the club do that?

13.) 28 Mar 2019 20:42:11
ed002, ever heard of a clubs scouting system, bit unfair all this sarcasm to genuine posters. blue nose getting a bit snotty?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - you clearly have little understanding about the entire business which is perhaps why you have registered a new account to bitch and whine like this. Perhaps just an ignorant red nosed glifnard?}

14.) 28 Mar 2019 21:29:42
I think what everyone means is we were close to buying Fekir for a 50-60 million fee. I know Shaqiri has come in since but he could very well be sold next window as well, which would free up a space.

There’s no doubt we need to strengthen we all know that. However I can see a 50 million player arriving next window, it’s just how the windows are now.

To be honest I’m hoping for someone like Brandt, would be ideal for us and would slot into system easily.



30 Sep 2018 00:19:42
Why is Salah so poor at minute? Anyone know? His decision making is terrible right now.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 01:43:59
He's probably not recovered from last season. I don't mean physically, I meant mentally.
The guy has been embroiled in all kinds of rubbish from image rights disputes, to being hounded for being given an "honourary" citizenship of Chechnya. Then you've got to remember that he's expected to score another 40 goals this season.

Mans got a lot on his mind, let him chill and he'll start scoring again.

2.) 30 Sep 2018 02:17:28
Pressure and opposition.

He's getting like 3 seconds to make a decision before someone sweeps in and gets to him.

I'd chuck him up top with the Shaq on the right.

3.) 30 Sep 2018 07:04:26
I thought he played well last night. until the final ball.
He looked fairly sharp at times yesterday and is still getting himself into good positions wanting the ball, I will start to get worried if he goes quiet and the chances dry up.

4.) 30 Sep 2018 07:48:03
Think he needs a stretch on the sidelines to be honest. Similar to what Klopp is doing with Keita and Fabinho- ease him back gently. I do vaguely remember mind he was a bit off the boil at the start of last season because people were criticising his finishing so I think he will come out of it.

5.) 30 Sep 2018 09:22:16
He had a similar start at the beginning of last season.

6.) 30 Sep 2018 09:36:36
Has nobody come to the conclusion that for Salah to overcome this new hurdle that, rather than leaving him on the bench or changing his position, he simply needs to play through it.

Time on the bench will do very little, Salah simply needs to find his rhythmn again, get used to the pressure that opponents are putting on him and figure out ways of overcoming it on the pitch. Once he figures it out I have no doubt Salah will get back to his best.

In all honesty, I think the front 3 all need to play through this so that they can re-find that deadly connection which made us a formidable team last season. Everything feels forced now, or very last minute, there is little of the linking and interchanges that we saw last season that led to goals. Give them time, to assess and figure out new plays on the pitch and we will have the front 3 of last season once again.

This year will be a challenge but, I have to say, our midfield has really stepped up their game. Wijnaldum and Milner, in particular. It is almost like the signings of Fabinho and Keita has pushed them to be better, regalvanised them. Our defence seems to have a better understanding of their responsibilities, although I think our fullbacks need to be very careful that they do not push too far up and leave spaces in behind, ala Chelsea match yesterday.

Alisson, what a breath of fresh air that lad has. Without him, Chelsea would have gone away with three points. He is a very good shot stopper but, even better, he is excellent at ball distribution which is an added weapon in our arsenal.

This season looks promising and I hope, pray to anyone willing to listen, that we finally win a trophy. It has been a very, very long time after all. Once we overcome that hurdle, I think you will see a Liverpool side that plays with freedom, expression and everything Klopp's style of football is truly about.

Stay positive guys, think about where we were 5 years ago and look at us now. The difference is truly astounding.

{Ed001's Note - spot on. It takes games to find form and Salah took nearly half a season to explode last season.}

7.) 30 Sep 2018 09:38:28
He's scored 1 goal less than he had at this time last season.

8.) 30 Sep 2018 11:44:25
Agreed, we we’re all worried about the chances he was missing by this time last year. We need the front three firing, and as soon as salah takes a couple chances he will be fine. I think we need Keita to cement his place first, meaning they can’t double up on salah as easily, as then we will have Firmino mane and Keita to worry about still.

9.) 30 Sep 2018 12:13:33
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't describe him as "poor".

The final ball and finish is missing atm, but his link up play is still good, his movement is good, his pace still terrifies defenders, he isn't hiding from the ball. I thought in the first half yesterday he played far better than either Mane or Firmino and was surprised when he was subbed after 65 minutes. He's not playing badly, it's just the finish is missing. That can happen to players for periods, it's not a major disaster.

He will start scoring again.

10.) 30 Sep 2018 12:20:02
Not worried just think whack him up top for a few games get him a couple of goals and then we can rejig things.


11.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:18
He just needs to score a couple of good goals to get going again, I remember all the posts this time last year saying he was a flop because he didn’t score enough and his final touch was terrible etc.

12.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:38
for me, salah needs to find more ways to impose himself on the game. He's starting to link up more around the box and create space / angles for himself and others, but too often he fades out of the game when his team mates aren't feeding him the ball. If he just gets himself involved in and around the box he'll continue to open more and more opportunities for himself and his team mates. Then when defenders get touch tight to cut out his link up play, then the space will open up behind. Just rekon he has to keep playing to figure that out. not sure whether a spell on the sidelines would help, cos I think he needs to play his way through this.

13.) 30 Sep 2018 18:16:16
Salah was poor? Really? I just disagree. Being football player, Salah is a nightmare playing against, and he was giving chelsea some serious problems. Currently only problem is his finishing. His movement and dribbling is superb. If he scored atleast one, we would all be praising him. Give the man some rest and get of his back. This will not help, esp with stupid media already writing about 'poor' Salah.

14.) 30 Sep 2018 18:20:21
I think Mo is doing okay and although I might be interpreting this wrong I am convinced he has been affected by the Egyptian FA argument and the fact that one of those persons made a lightly veiled threat against his mother. Khaled Lateif, an EFA board member, warned Mo, that while he no longer resided in Egypt, his mother did.

“I’d like to remind @MoSalah that your mother is still in Egypt. You are abroad and can do as you wish. Those who understand, understand. ”

Lateif appeared to make the remarks shortly after Salah posted two videos on his official Facebook page criticising the EFA for the country’s poor World Cup campaign. Also don't forget, Magdy Abd El Gany, another senior member of Egyptian FA, also launched an attack on Salah on Tuesday, this time calling him a pig (Pigs are an animal considered ritually unclean in Islam and believers are prohibited from consuming them) .

“Here is a picture of me with four players and a pig in white, ” Abdulghani said in a caption accompanying an image of himself, Mo Salah and four other footballers. This is disgraceful to say the least! I find their politicisation of football and their constant flouting of FIFA rules to be worthy of sanctions by FIFA.

15.) 30 Sep 2018 18:44:50
A hat trick against City next Sunday and he'll be back on track 😃.

16.) 30 Sep 2018 19:37:35
He’s a guy that’s gone from 0 to 100 in one season. When we signed him everyone, including our own fans ere underwhelmed and not much was expected of him. He has that season and now everyone wants a piece of him.
The stuff with the EFA hasn’t helped but neither has the amount of awards ceremonies and individual accolades he’s won. He seems to be at a different awards night every week.
Nobody from Egypt has ever been under this much scrutiny so I would imagine it’s a bit of a culture shock to him it’s just not normal for so much to be expected of an Egyptian footballer.
I’m sure once things calm down a bit he’ll be able to get his head back in the game he’s been caught in a bit of a whirlwind over the past few months.

17.) 30 Sep 2018 20:49:06
If I remember correctly last season Salah had a slow-ish start and I remember the city game in particular he had 3 or 4 really good chances and failed to convert them. Obvs we know what happened after that and the score line looked like we got a drubbing from city but in all fairness we was right in that game until the manè red. Salah is only human and he will have a few bad patches but let's get behind him as class will prevail and he will come through this with flying colours.

18.) 30 Sep 2018 21:18:10
As most have pointed out the guys got a lot on his plate, last season would be a hard act to follow he's still getting in the right places working hard doing all the right things he will be scoring again soon just let him plod through it, a couple against City and he will be off and running again,

19.) 01 Oct 2018 06:30:53
nobody is really firing just yet which makes it so exciting. When we click, well omg, this has the feeling of something special happening, how many times in our hayday did we score really late, sometimes in injury time, sometimes we were ordinary but we still got points, just like we have done so far this season. Sturridge missed a sitter, so did Shaq, and now Salah. Just means its getting closer to us giving someone a hiding and kicking on, something that looks so much better from the top of the ladder rather than 8 points off the pace. Come on guys, so far ahead of last season already!

20.) 01 Oct 2018 10:07:23
Salah and the rest of the team getting a lot of grief on here the last few days, some hard to please folk about, it was hardly a terrible performance away from home at one of the best teams in the league. Oh, and we didn't lose for those who seem to think we did.

21.) 01 Oct 2018 14:13:10
I remember when Fowler had a drought and when Evans was asked about it he replied as long as he still getting in the positions and having the chances it will come, Mo is still getting in the positions still getting chances so give it time. You all have to admit expecting another 40+ goal season was a dream of sheer ecstasy.

22.) 01 Oct 2018 15:11:53
I'm sorry I haven't time to read the whole thread atm, only respond to the OP, because I take exception to this question being asked over and over. He has not been 'so poor', he's just lacing a little bit of his sharpness that he had in abundance last season but it will come. He is still frightening the pants off defenders and getting into those Oh-So-Salah type positions. I've said it repeatedly benching him would be the worst thing to do and I'm glad Klopp agrees. On the other hand, it is just really nice to have another option now that we didn't have last season. Plenty of games coming and both he and Shaq will be needed.

PS: I think it's time to give Keita a run of starts.

23.) 01 Oct 2018 17:22:41
Relax! Salah is contributing, remains a threat in behind and has more shots on target than every other player in the league. He could have had a couple on sat but the goals will come.

Too many people listening to media hype instead of looking at things rationally. The front 3 in general haven’t quite clicked yet but WHEN they do someone is getting a pasting!



17 Jun 2018 18:00:08
Hola eds,

Question for Ed001 or macca if they're around. Anyone know anything about Milan wanting to take brewster and moreno on loan?



{Ed001's Note - I don't know if the interest in Brewster is still there, they wanted him if he left us. Moreno is someone they have shown interest in.}

1.) 17 Jun 2018 23:04:47
How good is this lad tipped to be my friend?

Seems a lot of hype!

2.) 17 Jun 2018 23:48:51
A kind of hope we trim the squad a little of players who always seem to be there when there are injuries - much rather give solanke, Woodburn, Brewster the minutes. In recent times Flanagan, Gomez and Trent have all been given chances through injury and did well - I know Flanagan hasn't pushed on, but it's always nice seeing a player come through the academy, and I hope we see some more.

3.) 18 Jun 2018 04:12:46
I would rather have a capable squad player in a key position than gamble on an 18 ear old prospect. He can get minutes when we are 4-0 up against Arsenal. Not when 1-1 against Spurs.

4.) 17 Jun 2018 21:55:50
Thanks Ed heard it from a friend of mine in Milan and it was first I'd heard so was initially skeptical.

Apparently they'll be making a loan offer for the pair just after WC ends. Not sure why then since neither players are involved.

{Ed001's Note - they were showing interest in Moreno last summer as well.}

5.) 18 Jun 2018 08:45:31
Tried the search engine to see if the Grulic thing had been addressed in detail but couldn't find something . Is there any serious interest in the kid that could result in him leaving or is the club looking to rid of such as Marko and Allan who play similar positions and facing similar issues such as work permits and any hope of getting game time?

{Ed002's Note - Markovic is still for sale and it will be a case of setting a revised price that is realistic. His loan last season eventually turned out not too bad but when he arrived at Anderlecht he was out of shape and they were obviously not happy with that. Anderlecht did enquire after buying him but the asking price Liverpool had was prohibitive. Allan has been injured - I am not sure if he has recovered now but he will be let go on loan or permanently as there appears to be no other option. Grujic is wanted by Lazio and there have been some discussions between the clubs but there was no agreement before he left for Russia. The player and his father are apparently keen for the move to go ahead so he can get his career back on track.}

6.) 18 Jun 2018 09:54:51
Thanks for the detailed response, it's a shame how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers. Best of luck to them where ever they end up. Thanks again for the quick and comprehensive response.

{Ed002's Note - I failed to mention it is Olympiakos interested in LM.}

7.) 18 Jun 2018 12:00:22
Sounds like Brewster is supposed to be the real deal.

8.) 18 jun 2018 12:55:08
when i read about "how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers" i feel kind of strange, because it sounds like you are giving the club the "harms intentionally those players" tag. you mean, the club spent money, paid salaries and on purpose kept them away from first team action? because i don't feel like markovic wasn't given a chance, he just didn't perform. grujic also played and didn't look like he should be in the first team. allan just couldn't get a wp. etc?
so, all in all, in my opinion, can't blame the club about people not having a successful career, and also, at the same time, blame the club for not buying marquee signings (whatever that is), and then blame the club for taking gambles, and then blame the club for taking a risk with somebody, etc etc etc, list goes on.
truth is, business as usual, don't stare too much. life goes on, both for players and the club. no blame needed on any part. just best of luck to everybody is in order.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point that Liverpool never had a plan.}

9.) 18 Jun 2018 13:42:07
I won't argue on what Liverpool did wrong about every single player, but I don't think they intentionally do/ did anybody any harm. The same window they got Grujic, they also got Gomez, who proved himself worthy and is now a valuable member of the first team - more or less same age, good prospects, etc.
Same window when they bought Markovic, they got also Lallana, Origi, Balotelli - of those 3, one turned out pretty awful, one was pretty decent for a while but got injured and one was so-so and went out on loan. So there you have it - four different cases with four different players, all signed in the same window. My point is, it is more or less up to the player to show that he's the real deal. And, I 100% agree that sometimes the club makes buys that are wrong, but looking back it's easy to say "they didn't have a plan and they ruined the boy". Had Markovic done a Salah first season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Anyway, no need to blame anybody on "failed careers" was my starting point. Of course things can go wrong, as in life in general. And it's easy to say when you look back "hey, that was wrong". Yeah, well, they didn't know that back then. I am sure everybody wanted Grujic to turn out to be a Gerrard, I know I did.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody has ever suggested it was intentional. It was more a case of buying players at the wrong time and having a manager who makes promises which are simply not true.}

10.) 18 Jun 2018 14:37:59
Whz whilst it wasn’t intentional we had no idea what we wanted to do with these players. This was rodgers spending money for the sake of it. 20 mil and when he played Markovic he was played out of position. We then turn off clubs wanting him as we want to recoup our money which is never going to happen. So Markovic has barely played whilst his value has gone down year after year. What’s the point in that?

11.) 19 Jun 2018 01:14:43
I think eds has clarified what was meant to be said, in all honesty the tone was set for the lads the moment we signed them without a plan in place for them to progress. Let's face it with broken promise from management and club that's has not planned a path to at least develop you further the odds are just not in your favor.




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16 Feb 2020 09:37:39
Question for ed002,

I read one of your responses that said Rui pinto "quite rightly" remains imprisoned.

Forgive me if I'm assuming but do you say quite rightly because of the stolen information?

If so do you not think that exemptions have to be made for whistle blowers since without them corruption and hidden crime remain undetected. Essentially imprisoning a whistle blower acts as a deterrent for anyone who wants to shine a light on corruption and crime.


{Ed002's Note - He is a self admitted thief. Some of the information provided has been refutted by the clubs - and some of the information against FIFA and UEFA has been claimed as untrue. Other information was only released in part and taken out of context.}

1.) 16 Feb 2020 13:09:35
That may be true about how the information was released and how complete it was but it has led to an investigation into bigger things - which can only be considered a good thing in football.

It's only my personal opinion but I think a whistle-blower with valid information should be protected from punishment or what motivation is there for anyone to ever blow the whistle when you know it will ruin your life.

{Ed002's Note - The point is that it wasn’t’t all valid information - and some was incomplete.}

2.) 16 Feb 2020 13:16:15
Interesting to note, however, that some of the most serious cheating transgressions in a sport like cycling (Operation Puerto / Lance Armstrong and US Postal) have come about through whistle blowing. Perhaps it just goes to show how weakly the FFP rules are policed?

{Ed002's Note - They are not weakly policed at all. There have been numerous teams punished and warned for infractions.}

3.) 16 Feb 2020 15:26:40
Ed002, how vital was the information released by Pinto in producing the judgment that UEFA have made?
If such information, some of which appeared to expose unlawful behaviour, was in fact necessary, how can this be anything other than a positive thing?
Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - It contributed to the evidence. Some of it has not been validated - one media outlet found some of it inaccurate. Not good enough and illegal.}

4.) 16 Feb 2020 20:51:33
Whatever he done and the outcome, hacking is illegal.
Etihad maybe part owned blah blah blah but as a company have brought a huge amount of work to Manchester especially the airport

Let’s just wait and see and stop talking about another team here please.

5.) 17 Feb 2020 01:59:54
hacking and releasing to the public is not whistleblowing.



31 Jul 2019 09:10:51
I wanted to share a conversation I had recently with a very well known Italian ex professional who had multiple high profile moves in his career.

There's always a lot of talk around football about greedy players having their heads turned by more lucrative contracts elsewhere so I asked a friend of mine about his moves.

Granted this won't apply to every player and the moves he referred to were in the 90s in a slightly different player culture.

Me: were any of your transfers because of money?

Him: just one. But not for me. The club needed the money and they knew I was worth a lot. I did not want to leave but I agreed to leave to help the club financially.

Me: what about the bigger wages that came with moving to juve, Milan etc?

Him: I never cared for this. My agent did. I wanted to play football in a team that competed which valued me. In truth I would have stayed in XXXXXXXX for my whole career. I loved it there. Even without the promise of winning the European Cup or a scudetto.

Me: did the other teams pay you a lot more than XXXXXXXX?

Him: Many times I think. I was never worried about this. My agent said its better than the last contract, I trusted him to make financial decisions. I made the football decisions.

Me: You ever regret anything?

Him: No. Even the times when the coach did not like me and i did not play. All these experiences, bad and good, made me the player I was.

It's not always players who get their head turned by money. I'm sure some do but most don't. I'm pretty sure fowler said something similar in his book. So when we hear of player x wanting x money or being lured by the promise of riches elsewhere let's not be too harsh there's a good chance they are not the greedy party.


1.) 31 Jul 2019 10:07:57
Thanks for sharing! Times has changed sadly.

2.) 31 Jul 2019 12:16:44
Thanks for sharing Nevada. Very interesting to hear this from a players point of view.



18 Jun 2019 02:35:38
Hi eds,

Had Liverpool been scouting Sandro tonali?

He won't be moving for another year yet anyway but a friend mentioned an English club had scouted him quite a few times last season, I wondered if it was us.

For anyone who doesn't know the name he's seen as pirlo's successor due to his incredibly impressive passing range and vision.


{Ed002's Note - I have explained this before but another English club has put a lot of effort in to trying to organise a move but he wants to stay in Italy.}

1.) 18 Jun 2019 08:33:59
A minor point, but I can't see his name without thinking 'Tonenail'.

Like I said, a minor point, but I won't lie - it does bother me.

2.) 18 Jun 2019 10:31:10
Lol zed hahaha! Excellent.

3.) 18 Jun 2019 12:03:17
Zed, if you'd use your clippers more often, you wouldn't have much of a problem. And wouldn't be as bothered as much. 😝.



05 Jun 2019 08:13:35
Question for ed002 please,

Is the "radical changes" to the champions League being proposed by some teams the beginning of the breakaway league?

Do you know what the changes are that are being proposed?

Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - The changes that the "elite" clubs want is the breakaway - UEFA have blocked this until at least 2024. The expanded Champions League/World Club expansion are all tied to UEFA and/or FIFA. The latest proposals from UEFA were discussed with the "elite" sides who had no interest and then it was taken to the European Club Association with the elite sides saying no and pretty much all Premier League sides saying no. Taking it to the individual league associates saw abstainments and the Premier League saying no. There are several proposals and they change regularly with the intent of fending off the breakaway. I have explained the proposals before - the clubs, or at least some, are looking at a fixed entry list which is seen by UEFA as a variant on the breakaway but UEFA missed the point that the clubs would also stay in tehir own leagues.}

1.) 05 Jun 2019 22:19:49
Thanks for the reply. I was interested at what the Dortmund exec said as it was the first public hint of the breakaway league which is what sparked my question.

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know what he has said - I have been in paris all day.}

2.) 06 Jun 2019 07:27:53
Think there's a meeting in Malta today. Seems to be a lot of opposition to the plans.



02 Jun 2019 23:53:05
Do we really need to add a creative midfielder to the team?

Ox and Keita have that role. Sure Keita hasn't been that great this year but I'd like to give him another year. See if his attitude and approach changes now that the first trophy is won (surprising how many bad attitudes change when some success comes along ) and dammit OX deserves his place in midfield until we see some evidence he doesn't deserve it.

Same goes for a striker Brewster and origi can be backup for Firmino until they show they don't have the talent or don't want to stay.

I do think we should add some cover for Salah and mane (maybe someone from youth teams? ) And cover for full backs but otherwise we are fine. well in my opinion. Feel free to thumbs down if you disagree.


1.) 03 Jun 2019 00:09:59
I half agree I really do think we need a player to cover the front 3 we have been lucky with injuries up top but I wouldn't like to think we only had origin and Brewster if Salah or mane get injured or dread to think may be both could I guess ox could play there and for now we have shaquiri but might not at the start of the season I would definitely buy a cover player there.

{Ed0333's Note - Brandt would have been an ideal solution for that scenario. It can only mean Mr No 6 has something up his sleeve?

2.) 03 Jun 2019 01:51:31
Yeah I think midfield is not a worry. Keita offered hardly any influence this season and OX nothing either. It's clear to see keita is a talent, I'm expecting him to show his quality next year and OX hopefully can get back to his pre injury form. That right there is like at least 1 new player if not 2 inc. keita . A versatile pacey young front man to strengthen depth in wide options be my priority.

Other than possibly replacing and improving the outgoing surplus squad members we don't have to change much. I'd like to see Lewis take morenos role, robbo hardly missed minutes since he's broke through 18 months ago, Milner always can cover if needed too. I'd only sign a CB if any of lovren or matip wanted to leave, I doubt they would though. An experienced back up keeper if migs leaves and maybe some competition for Trent at RB if the right kind of player was available. I really don't think we need to change much, just strengthen the depth of quality an add more competition for places.

3.) 03 Jun 2019 06:57:05
Keita is more of a number 8 its a number 10 we need and. We do need a players to come in to fight with the front 3 for a starting place so they can be rotation up there without a great drop in quality.

4.) 03 Jun 2019 07:28:17
Both Brewster an ox coming back from long term injuries, I love ox but worry about his injury record, if he could stay fit all season or most of it will be great, Brewster is raw could b great or could be another Jordan Ibe so a bit of a gamble, man city's squad is stronger than ours in key areas they have quality backup I hope we can rectify that with cover for left an right back, a fekir or bruno Fernandes type midfielder - attacker, an cover up top, let's take into account studge, lallana leaving also Moreno, Clyne its imperative we replace wid solid quality .

5.) 03 Jun 2019 08:05:18
Yeah grino but we've never really used a "10" in a 3 man midfield under klopp. Coutinho on 1 or 2 occasions maybe but we lose midfield balance. Start of season he tried shaq there against Southampton. He made 2 goals and we led 3-0 at HT. He subbed him at the break and bought on Milner i thinkto regain shape. And said after the game he made a tactical error. In the last 2 or 3 months, fabinho has been left to anchor alone with two 8"s ahead of him. This has been a successful change in shape. Hendo in that time, scored 1 assisted 5, gini scored 3 or 4, keita scored 3 and assisted another 1 or 2 I think. Fabinho has shown he doesn't need someone sitting deep along side him anymore. I think klopp prefers this type of running aggressive type midfield as opposed to the playmaker options. We won 14 of our last 15 games after tweaks in midfield. I'm not sure if we need to be changing what is a working effective midfield. Ox suits that perfect too.

6.) 03 Jun 2019 09:07:14
If you want to include Gomez in that as well he's been out since Christmas so 4 nearly new players back Gomez, Ox, Brewester, and Keita who has had a stop start season since he came here. I think we are pretty stacked in midfield so I would make too many changes for the foreseeable future been watching our boys since the 70s and have seen some brilliant time and some not so good but I think we have a really special manager who everybody want to play for and is now building a dynasty here in our beloved club. I'm here to enjoy the ride klopp is about to bring us on, so in klopp we trust.

7.) 03 Jun 2019 09:15:48
Anybody who thinks we don't need a creative option simply has to look to those draws we accumulated last (or is it still this) season. Particularly Man U, Everton, Leicester and West Ham. We can’t have ridiculously expensive subs, but equally, playing 50 games a season means there is room for someone to come in and spread the load around and in particular, give us an option when we need a spark from somewhere.

8.) 03 Jun 2019 11:10:55
hailstones I think are midfielders are great but they are all very similar. and we did get a few lucky goals late in games everton, spurs games come straight to mind. A player like fekir would give us a new dimension, all so give us the option to rotate with Bobby. Brewester coming up all so gives us a new type of forward. and if we could get a wide player who we could trust to play as many games as salah and mane we could attack on all fronts rather than just going for 2 cups makes life hard. If we won't to keep growing we need to keep adding silverware every season. There is still a few bits of deadwood in are squad that are not add much compared to the wages they get. for me a fekir type player a wide player and a right back to cover Trent and a new keeper if mings leaves would be great window and move us forward again.

{Ed001's Note - they are similar for a reason, they allow us to play the way we do. They can press high and win the ball back in dangerous places where they don't need to be as creative. Winning it high up while the opposition are looking to attack means there are wide open spaces to play a ball through.}

9.) 03 Jun 2019 11:18:53
Keita showed glimpses of his class. Once totally settled as n not niggled with injury i think he will go on to be one of the best cms in the league.

10.) 03 Jun 2019 13:19:11
Agreed ed01. The midfield is a, hard to get through. B, hard to bully, and c, are all good on the ball under pressure. They are the perfect midfield to give our amazing front 3 the platform to play off. All intelligent midfielders too.

{Ed001's Note - we bought two players in last summer who are more creative in Fabinho and Keita, in different ways. There is also Shaqiri who is creative. Not sure why people think it is such a weakness in the side now.}

11.) 03 Jun 2019 14:09:00
Yeah we don't need to change midfield at all. I don't see an out and out AM as any use. Our midfield gets a raw deal. Someone just blamed 4 draws on our midfield? That's such a clueless idea. Trent was missing this period, Milner and Henderson had to cover RB, fabinho played a couple of times CB. Firmino missed 2 of those games. Sturridge slows us down and crowds spaces that bobby creates. Keita was being forced to play even though he was very off form, . We were very disjointed all over the park. This was a period where our full backs weren't getting any assists, salah sturridge and origi were invisible. It's funny we never had to rely on this midfield for goals or assists, full backs and front 3 always the main threat but the minute we hit a blip, the likes of Henderson were blamed. This team plays to its strengths due to our current midfield. Our absolute main strength attacking is through wide areas. So many goals come from their. Firmino thrives on dropping into those pockets between mid and attack leaving central areas for salah and mane to run. A #10 would leave us more bare in midfield and stifle our fullbacks freedom. Firmino would no longer be able to play his false 9 role.

When we played 4-5-1 with firmino behind salah we struggled with fluidity. Firmino and salah getting in each other's spaces constantly and it wasn't working at all. I don't see any reason to change from a working successful system back to one which we used when we played our worst attacking football this season.

12.) 03 Jun 2019 14:50:14
ed001 I did not see us winning the ball back so high up as much last season teams new they could not play at the back like that against us even city changed against us. And if salah was out for a good bit of time not sure I would want Shaqiri in there all the time. when you look at city and Sane is on the bench that's a real game changer.

{Ed001's Note - Sane doesn't want to be on the bench and wants to go, so that is not an issue. As for last season, you obviously did not watch us much as we were scoring goals that way a lot. It is not always about actually getting the ball high up, you can win the ball by pressing in high areas and forcing them to kick the ball aimlessly up field. It still leaves the same gaps where they have full-backs advanced and midfield looking forward etc.

If Salah is out for a while there is Ox, Shaqiri, Brewster and Origi, even if we buy no one.}

13.) 03 Jun 2019 15:03:41
Again, fully agree ed01. Its not like milly, hendo and gini cannot create goals either.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. Hell even Matip can get assists now....}




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16 Jul 2019 12:11:30
SG84EVA it's very easy to look at hard working midfielders and say they don't create anything but you would be wrong and you would most definitely not be considering their overall effect on the game.

The it running and pressing creates space for forward players as the opponent have to chase them around. In addition to this they win the ball back much further up the pitch which takes advantage of space.

Do they play the Hollywood killer passes? No but to say they create nothing shows a lack of understanding of the team element of football.




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19 Jun 2019 17:24:56
That's why I said I hope we just sign viable subs Virgil. But anyone thinking fernandes, Pepe etc are coming to be subs is a bit mistaken.




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19 Jun 2019 16:01:50
So we have the highest points total in the history of the club AND win a champs league at the same time and everyone wants to suddenly change the first 11?

Whether flashy or not that first 11 IS capable of winning a title and probably will. But if start changing players we will also affects tactics and team chemistry.

Personally I hope we don't sign anyone for the first 11. We need viable back ups not starting 11.




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14 Jun 2019 15:12:36
That cracked me up ed002 it's one of my pet hates people using party as a verb too.




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30 May 2019 12:13:53
Not that agree of disagree with the idea of having back up players of high calibre but people who say "player X would not want to sit on the bench" well that's exactly what most players (especially attackers) do at Madrid and Barcelona nearly every season. Hell we lost one of our star players because he would rather sit on the bench at Barcelona than be a first teamer at liverpool. Same thing happened with Owen at madrid. There are plenty of other examples at other clubs too. There are even examples at our club both past and present.

Throughout the 90s Milan had world class players sitting on the bench because their first team was packed with world class players.

Players are ok with being a bench warmer sometimes if they are confident of their ability they assume they will work their way into the team, and if you're really good that's exactly what happens. When you're not good enough or have the wrong mentality you remain back up or you leave.

Football has no guarantees and most professional players accept that, even truly great ones.





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16 Feb 2020 13:10:54
That particular skill I've only seen once before and it was another Brazilian. Garrincha used the same manoeuvre to dribble past an opponent once.




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16 Feb 2020 13:09:35
That may be true about how the information was released and how complete it was but it has led to an investigation into bigger things - which can only be considered a good thing in football.

It's only my personal opinion but I think a whistle-blower with valid information should be protected from punishment or what motivation is there for anyone to ever blow the whistle when you know it will ruin your life.


{Ed002's Note - The point is that it wasn’t’t all valid information - and some was incomplete.}



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14 Aug 2019 20:54:34
While at Fiorentina, Gabriel Batistuta had a clause which stated if he was teams top scorer he was allowed to choose one of the jerseys worn by former players which were framed on the wall.

I don't know which jerseys he chose every time but I do know he chose Roberto Baggio once and that each time he sold the shirts at auction giving the money away to charity in his home town in Argentina

That's the most unusual one I ever saw.




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07 Aug 2019 10:45:35
Interesting you say not as strong a squad as city Ed because olin the charity shield game City desperately clung to their starting 11 until late in the game and actually got worse after making subs (penalties aside) whereas Liverpool made more substitution, and earlier and actually improved as the changes were made.

This argument that City have better strength in depth isn't true if you ask me.

Is Jesus better than origi? Bout same I'd say.

Their alternate defence is worse than Liverpool

And while being more talented their best midfielders (silva fernandinho) are on the verge of retirement and the back ups are injury prone with exception of Bernardo Silva.

The only one I will agree is an upgrade is sane, who doesn't want to be there.

In addition to this their squad is smaller due to their reliance on foreign talent so injuries at city hit them harder because they have a smaller squad.


{Ed025's Note - they have also just signed 2 more quality players nevada, and they do have a vastly superior squad mate and your kidding yourself if you think different, its also pointless going back to the charity shield game my friend, there was a winner and a case you missed it liverpool were the latter..



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01 Aug 2019 08:30:56
Personally I'd like to see Wilson given a chance as an impact sub this season.

I know people say his game was lacking in areas last season on loan but he wasn't being coached by klopp and his team. A season with our first team coaches and klopps tutelage could iron out those weaker areas.

With the ball at his feet he seems useful. It's mostly off the ball he needs work and playing with better players and getting better coaching could help that.

If it doesn't work out there will be plenty of opportunities to sell him.