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27 May 2018 13:36:43
Absolutely gutted for the boys - not for the result but for the manner of it. I was really hoping for some beautiful attacking play worthy of our run to the final, but while the first 30mins promised much, the way Salah was dragged down and injured, and the way we played so poorly after he left, and watching Karius crumble on the big stage was devastating.

I sincerely hope the whole team can pick themselves up from this, as we seem to be on the brink of something truly special. The biggest disaster of all would be if we let something like this impact the momentum going into next season.

Now for some home truths

- I've always felt the gap between our front three and the rest was ridiculously big. So it proved last night, not just in talent but also in style. Our game relies on Firmino dropping deeper to act as playmaker and to create space, with a pair of wide attackers able to use their pace and movement to take advantage, get into the box and score. We clearly don't have anyone else in the squad able to do that apart from Mane and Salah, and with only one of them on the pitch the opposition can shut us down all to easily. We need a top top wide attacking forward in the transfer window to allow us to remain a threat if any of the front three are injured/ need a rest. It's critical. RM must have been laughing when we took off Salah and brought on Lallana. They knew we wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

- I've been proud of Gini and Milner individually this season, they've given everything, but it is also clear that they both need the front three to click or we look toothless. Without Mane, Salah and Firmino on fire, our midfield is exposed for what it is - workmanlike. We need someone able to pick the game up and create danger if the front three are struggling, and hopefully Keita is that player. Kroos and Modric schooled us once Salah went off and we can't let that happen again.

- GK. I've been one of Karius's backers, mostly because Mig's was clearly not the answer, but I think Karius will take time to get over this, and the team will need time to trust him again. I think it's critical after the final that we go all out for the best GK we can get to start next season. Karius may come back, and I hope for his own sake he grows to live this down and succeeds in the long run, but unfortunately we can't go into next season with him as our no.1, there's too much at stake

- Finally, I think Klopp missed a trick. It was clear going into half time we were struggling with Lallana out wide. I think he needed to shake it up and put Ings or Solanke on earlier and dropped Firmino into the 10, with Lallana in midfield. We should have realised we lacked any threat, trusted our FB's to push up to create the width and pace instead and really gone for them but that's always easy to say in hindsight.

I hope above all we get over this performance and learn, continue to grow and strengthen the squad. We've had some incredible memories from this season and we can do better still if we don't let this get to us.

YNWA lads. Thanks for a wonderful season and here's to the next.


1.) 27 May 2018 14:53:04
ings wasnt on the bench so you can expect klopp to put him on really can ya.

2.) 27 May 2018 16:55:41
I don't have qualms with lallan being brought on, throwing an inexperienced player into a game like that would be hard. I think we should have matched their diamond and played firmino and mane up top. We know they'll roam around anyway.

3.) 27 May 2018 17:08:03
I don’t think Ings was in the CL squad 😄.

4.) 27 May 2018 18:17:24
Win as a team, lose as a team. Don't care what the results is they are my team and I am proud they made it to the final. "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win. ". -Bill Shankly.

5.) 28 May 2018 01:07:30
My bad - of course Ings wasn’t an option, i guess the point was, we didn’t have another wide forward that Klopp could replace Salah with, we were forced to changed our system and we went from being on top to being under pressure the rest of the match.

6.) 28 May 2018 07:10:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Reality is Klopp watches his players daily and is in a better position to judge. We lost, we will recover and hopefully use this as a great catalyst to go again. Onwards and upwards.

7.) 28 May 2018 08:57:25
Inexperienced players - Trent alexander and Robinson were pretty inexperienced.

8.) 28 May 2018 10:08:10
Woodburn should've been given a spot on the bench and would've been a better option than Lallana. He's the kind of player who can come off the bench and produce a bit of magic, like on his Wales debut for example. The fact we had 3 defenders and 2 midfielders on the bench certainly didn't help. I still don't think Klopp did all he could've to get back into the game, waiting until the 83rd minute and then bringing on Can was pretty pointless. If you need a goal, bring on a striker for dog's sake. Or even Moreno could've had more of an impact, and of the options that were on the bench I'd actually have brought him on to play inside-left instead of Lallana.

9.) 28 May 2018 10:45:30
I would personally have put on Solanke and played Firmino more as a 10 but everyone’s a genius with the benefit of hindsight.

10.) 28 May 2018 15:19:41
Yeah SGRed that would've been worth a shot as well, and of course hindsight is 20/ 20 but my main point is that Klopp did nothing at all. Seemed like he was as stunned as the players were by the combination of the three shocking moments, but that is exactly when you need a manager with a cool head to put any kind of plan in place to try and save the game. Don't get me wrong, I love Klopp, but it's a definite weakness of his.

11.) 28 May 2018 23:34:44
Agree Jurgen Meister. Kloppo gets his subs wrong often when we're losing.

First of all, Ings should've been on that bench as the most like-for-like for the front 3. Of course, not in quality but at least in mobility and versatility. He would've been my choice when Salah webt off injured. We needed to keep the width and stretch them.

Even when we went 2-1 down I would've brought Clyne on at RB and pushed TAA forward. Take Milner off as his legs were done and slot Lallana in the middle. Lallana always struggles playing wide.

Oh well, game is done and I'm not a coach lol.

{Ed0333's Note - so glad your not our coach Greg.




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21 Jul 2018 09:36:51
A massive shout out to Klopp and the management at the club for what they've done to this team over recent years. Can't list all the changes but remember we've gone from Balotelli, Borini and Lambert to Mane, Firmino, Salah, and from the likes of Joe Allen to Keita, from Skrtel to VVD, Migs to Alisson.

We are building something special lads, and while Rome wasn't built in a day and one can argue Man City still has an edge, we've come a long way. A few seasons ago, hoping for top 4 was just that. hoping. Now it feels like we really have the tools to challenge.

Can't wait for the season to start.


1.) 21 Jul 2018 11:55:38
Agreed with all of that except the part about skrtel, he was a great defender in his day imagine him partnering vvd.

2.) 21 Jul 2018 11:43:15
Plus with a bit of luck thrown in.

3.) 21 Jul 2018 14:35:35
Skrtel was never a great defender.



10 Jul 2018 21:39:23
A couple of thoughts from the preseasons so far

- Fabinho looks very composed and Keita has something about him, brings a real energy to midfield. I think both will be very useful additions.
- Lallana looked good today, got stuck in all over the park and linked play well
- Solanke, Origi, Chirivella and Woodburn all look a bit off the pace to me. Obviously early days though.
- on the other hand, Wilson, Ojo, Camacho and Jones have all played well. Kent wasn't too bad today either but end product was a bit missing. I am hoping at least one of Ojo and Wilson get meaningful game time this year, and maybe even both.
- Karius's confidence looks down. It was a tough shot to catch but still a bit of a howler. Ward looked good though.
- Sturridge has been a bit of a surprise package for me, he's looked very lively in more of a playmaker/ no.10 role. could he potentially be moulded there? I'm guessing not due to his work rate in defence but you never know.


1.) 11 Jul 2018 14:52:27
I put a post up a month ago saying "lallana is a klopp type player. Gets stuck in and wins the ball back a lot, especially for a small bloke he does well"

And someone replied "when did lallana ever win the ball back, he's not a tackler"

And everyone was agreeing, loads of thumbs up and loads of thumbs down on my post. It's like they only started watching Liverpool last season. Ads was injured and not match sharp all season. But, the season before he was brilliant until he got injured. One of the best players in the league. That's no exaggeration. I think we were top of the league for a while, a lot of pundits fancied us. Ads is always getting stuck in. It's his game. He is a brilliant tackler, wins the ball back and turns it over quickly, he's a clever player.

People who think he is not a tackler are simply wrong. Watch some old games on YouTube.



24 May 2018 15:45:45
I just watched the '05 final again in full as a warm up to the weekend and it's amazing to see the contrast from the 1st to the 2nd half. AC Milan were imperious in the first half but the mood In the second was completely different, right from the start.

The first thing that struck me was YNWA ringing around the stadium before the second half kicked off. not half hearted, but full of pride and belief despite being three nil down. You could sense the mood shift, and you could see it in the Liverpool players immediately. Right from the whistle you could see them respond to every roar as they surged forward, and the nervousness of the Milan players was immediately visible. What was going on? Did they really think they had a chance? The first seeds of doubt were sown, and I bet none of that would have happened if the fans had slinked off at half time.

By the time Stevie scored his goal, which seemed almost inevitable looking at it now, and as he waved on the crowd as he ran back to halfway, the fear in the Milan players was palpable. They knew. A brilliant moment summed it up on the 57th minute after Smicers goal, where you can see Ancelotti looking on shell shocked from the sideline, then the camera pans across on the Liverpool supporters in the background, going nuts. The third goal was inevitable in their minds. No nervousness or fear, just pure energy and belief, driving their side on relentlessly.

The point i guess I'm making, is when you look at those teams on paper, that game should never have happened. That was one of the greatest and most experienced AC Milan sides I've ever seen. But this isn't simply a game of 11 on never has been. The Liverpool players began to believe in themselves, because we the fans believed in them. AC Milan learnt to fear, because we believed it wasn't over. The fans were a huge part of the story that night.

People can talk all they like about Real Madrid's experience, and how our players haven't experienced a final before. but we have lads. We've been there and seen Liverpool do it. We are the experience in the club and we've seen and heard it all before. If we roar on every attack just like the fans did in 2005, the players experience won't matter. Our lads will believe in themselves, their lads will fear us, and we will drown them in the maelstrom that will follow.

We are Liverpool, and for all those who will represent us in the stadium this weekend, do us proud. Roar on the reds and never stop believing, its our job to go help them bring home the cup.



1.) 24 May 2018 15:55:00
I bet the players watch that game as prep for the final.
I bet most of the fans as well actually.
Our fans in Kiev will be so numerous and loud it will feel like a home game.

2.) 24 May 2018 16:22:46
I have the road to Istanbul on DVD and you can bet I am watching it Friday night 😂.

3.) 24 May 2018 16:22:49
Liverpool really just have something special about them as a team the supporters, different to any other. That final was the best game i have ever seen!

4.) 24 May 2018 18:24:11
I sure most of the players don't even like the song and hearing that song 100s of times a season must get on their nerves.
Now if the fans are chanting the names of players I can see that giving them a slight boost.

5.) 24 May 2018 19:20:59
I have a football that was made for that final I payed 70 quid for, I looked up on eBay the other day and another ball still boxed like mine is from the final in 05 was going for £700 great final as will this one be.



02 May 2018 15:25:15
Big match today - but most important lads, stay safe and out of trouble, and sing your hearts out. Good luck Reds.




24 Apr 2018 16:13:07
Big day lads. up the reds and long live the lion king!


1.) 24 Apr 2018 16:21:56
Mufasa or Simba?

2.) 24 Apr 2018 16:50:49
I thought Salah was a Pharaoh?

3.) 24 Apr 2018 17:05:58
Arsene Wenger?




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21 Jul 2018 14:18:02
I’d describe him as direct and quick and always looking to get forward and create chances. He has a decent dribble but not outstanding, and tends to rely on making runs and his pace more than close control to beat his man.

What I’m not so sure about is his decision making as he can sometimes run down a blind alley, and his finishing isn’t as cool and calm as Wilson’s, but hopefully that develops with time.

I’d say Harry Wilson is the better player right now and I think very likely to make it at the top level. Kent is difficult to judge but given he’s got some gaps in his game I’d guess he may end up more of a championship player.

Just my 2c, others may have a different opinion. Hope that helps.




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18 Jul 2018 15:14:01
I’m with you MK - this window has been brilliant so far, and yes I’d love Fekir too but we’ve plugged our obvious problem areas incredibly well (backup to Hendo at DM, a backup wide forward for Salah/ Mane, a dynamic midfielder with a goal threat (Keita), and a new starting GK) . Anything from here is a bonus.




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14 Jul 2018 13:48:39
I suspect with Shaqiri coming in he may well go on a loan.




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11 Jul 2018 14:55:12
This is why I love this site, a little bit of banter, some good humor and a whole dose of genuine insight from Ed02.

Thank you Sir.




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10 Jul 2018 21:23:12
They will surely go for Neymar, and hopefully Hazard as well.





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21 Jul 2018 10:43:43
I’m putting a tenner on all that Ed. Latest odds are I should win GBP1,465,560, so you owe me big time if Salah gets hurt in the 22nd minute!




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21 Jul 2018 09:24:09
I think it’s a big more flexible than that. With this current squad, Klopp can line up 4-3-3 and go either Fabinho, Hendo, Keita for a more defensive/ neutral setup, or he can go 4-2-3-1 and put Hendo and Keita behind Mane, Firmino, Salah, with Solanke upfront for a much more attacking lineup against defensive sides like Wolverhampton, Fulham and Man Utd ;)

Fekir would be excellent addition and probably would mean one of Lallana, Gini or Milner moving on, but we certainly don’t need him the way we did before Shaqiri and Keita joined.




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14 Jul 2018 09:04:14
I would have preferred Fekir and Wilson to cover the wide forward positions personally, but it’s also 100% clear that we needed a quality senior player to back up Mane and Salah, and if Fekir isn’t 100% sorted then I’m glad we’ve moved for XS. Shaqiri is a gamechanger and has an excellent set piece delivery, and you don’t get that for 13m these days.

Of course attitude is potentially an issue, but Klopp doesn’t suffer fools and this team is tight and won’t easily be disrupted. I think it’s a shrewd piece of business if Klopp and the team can keep him engaged, as it gives us a potential match winner on the bench (or potentially even raise the competition for first team places) for not much money, hopefully leaving us budget to fix a starting position we actually need to change (GK)




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11 Jul 2018 16:16:36
Well said Zed.




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11 Jul 2018 15:02:00
I would personlly rather we went for someone else like Brandt, but if we do go for him then so be it - the guy does have the proven ability to do something special and he’s not coming in as a starter so worst case he sulks and gets sat in the reserves or out the door faster than you can say Sakho.