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27 May 2018 13:36:43
Absolutely gutted for the boys - not for the result but for the manner of it. I was really hoping for some beautiful attacking play worthy of our run to the final, but while the first 30mins promised much, the way Salah was dragged down and injured, and the way we played so poorly after he left, and watching Karius crumble on the big stage was devastating.

I sincerely hope the whole team can pick themselves up from this, as we seem to be on the brink of something truly special. The biggest disaster of all would be if we let something like this impact the momentum going into next season.

Now for some home truths

- I've always felt the gap between our front three and the rest was ridiculously big. So it proved last night, not just in talent but also in style. Our game relies on Firmino dropping deeper to act as playmaker and to create space, with a pair of wide attackers able to use their pace and movement to take advantage, get into the box and score. We clearly don't have anyone else in the squad able to do that apart from Mane and Salah, and with only one of them on the pitch the opposition can shut us down all to easily. We need a top top wide attacking forward in the transfer window to allow us to remain a threat if any of the front three are injured/ need a rest. It's critical. RM must have been laughing when we took off Salah and brought on Lallana. They knew we wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

- I've been proud of Gini and Milner individually this season, they've given everything, but it is also clear that they both need the front three to click or we look toothless. Without Mane, Salah and Firmino on fire, our midfield is exposed for what it is - workmanlike. We need someone able to pick the game up and create danger if the front three are struggling, and hopefully Keita is that player. Kroos and Modric schooled us once Salah went off and we can't let that happen again.

- GK. I've been one of Karius's backers, mostly because Mig's was clearly not the answer, but I think Karius will take time to get over this, and the team will need time to trust him again. I think it's critical after the final that we go all out for the best GK we can get to start next season. Karius may come back, and I hope for his own sake he grows to live this down and succeeds in the long run, but unfortunately we can't go into next season with him as our no.1, there's too much at stake

- Finally, I think Klopp missed a trick. It was clear going into half time we were struggling with Lallana out wide. I think he needed to shake it up and put Ings or Solanke on earlier and dropped Firmino into the 10, with Lallana in midfield. We should have realised we lacked any threat, trusted our FB's to push up to create the width and pace instead and really gone for them but that's always easy to say in hindsight.

I hope above all we get over this performance and learn, continue to grow and strengthen the squad. We've had some incredible memories from this season and we can do better still if we don't let this get to us.

YNWA lads. Thanks for a wonderful season and here's to the next.

SGRed

1.) 27 May 2018 14:53:04
ings wasnt on the bench so you can expect klopp to put him on really can ya.


2.) 27 May 2018 16:55:41
I don't have qualms with lallan being brought on, throwing an inexperienced player into a game like that would be hard. I think we should have matched their diamond and played firmino and mane up top. We know they'll roam around anyway.


3.) 27 May 2018 17:08:03
I don’t think Ings was in the CL squad 😄.


4.) 27 May 2018 18:17:24
Win as a team, lose as a team. Don't care what the results is they are my team and I am proud they made it to the final. "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win. ". -Bill Shankly.


5.) 28 May 2018 01:07:30
My bad - of course Ings wasn’t an option, i guess the point was, we didn’t have another wide forward that Klopp could replace Salah with, we were forced to changed our system and we went from being on top to being under pressure the rest of the match.


6.) 28 May 2018 07:10:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Reality is Klopp watches his players daily and is in a better position to judge. We lost, we will recover and hopefully use this as a great catalyst to go again. Onwards and upwards.


7.) 28 May 2018 08:57:25
Inexperienced players - Trent alexander and Robinson were pretty inexperienced.


8.) 28 May 2018 10:08:10
Woodburn should've been given a spot on the bench and would've been a better option than Lallana. He's the kind of player who can come off the bench and produce a bit of magic, like on his Wales debut for example. The fact we had 3 defenders and 2 midfielders on the bench certainly didn't help. I still don't think Klopp did all he could've to get back into the game, waiting until the 83rd minute and then bringing on Can was pretty pointless. If you need a goal, bring on a striker for dog's sake. Or even Moreno could've had more of an impact, and of the options that were on the bench I'd actually have brought him on to play inside-left instead of Lallana.


9.) 28 May 2018 10:45:30
I would personally have put on Solanke and played Firmino more as a 10 but everyone’s a genius with the benefit of hindsight.


10.) 28 May 2018 15:19:41
Yeah SGRed that would've been worth a shot as well, and of course hindsight is 20/ 20 but my main point is that Klopp did nothing at all. Seemed like he was as stunned as the players were by the combination of the three shocking moments, but that is exactly when you need a manager with a cool head to put any kind of plan in place to try and save the game. Don't get me wrong, I love Klopp, but it's a definite weakness of his.


11.) 28 May 2018 23:34:44
Agree Jurgen Meister. Kloppo gets his subs wrong often when we're losing.

First of all, Ings should've been on that bench as the most like-for-like for the front 3. Of course, not in quality but at least in mobility and versatility. He would've been my choice when Salah webt off injured. We needed to keep the width and stretch them.

Even when we went 2-1 down I would've brought Clyne on at RB and pushed TAA forward. Take Milner off as his legs were done and slot Lallana in the middle. Lallana always struggles playing wide.

Oh well, game is done and I'm not a coach lol.

{Ed0333's Note - so glad your not our coach Greg.


 

 

 

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11 Nov 2019 14:06:30
Can I just say what a fantastic side we all have the pleasure of supporting. I don't think I've seen a better Liverpool team, or a better bunch of lads.

From Allison and VVDs coolness under pressure, to Trents unbelievable cross pitch passes to the marauding Robbo, to Fabinhos imperious control of midfield, Gini's ability to rope a dope, Hendos passion and energy, and of course our unbelievable front three, a sublime mixture of pace, guile and the sheer joys of scoring bucketloads of goals. Special mention to Ox, Gomez, Matip, Origi with his gifts off the bench, to many many others.

These are the most special times to be a Liverpool supporter and may we remember these moments until our very end!

SGRed

1.) 11 Nov 2019 14:14:51
Absolutely agree SGRed well said.


2.) 11 Nov 2019 15:27:04
Spot on, SGRed. Since last season, I have had a lot of respect and admiration for this team and all it has had to endure and rise above over the last 18 months to 2 years. I often have to pinch myself when I realize what our team has and is currently accomplishing right before our very eyes.


3.) 11 Nov 2019 19:34:27
Yep. Well said sgred. Best team I've seen. I can see us winning another European Cup.


 

 

30 Aug 2019 05:02:35
Congratulations VVD and Becker, awesome to see two out of the four top player awards going to Liverpool players.

Also the first Ballon D'Or for a defender and first from the PL. No small feat, and fully deserved for both after completely transforming our defence and making Liverpool one of the most feared teams in Europe again.

Makes a big change from years past when we'd only look on at Barca, RM, Bayern, Juve and could only dream of playing regularly at their level.

Good times.

SGRed

1.) 30 Aug 2019 06:05:38
Not the actual ballon dor just the UEFA player of the year (based on CL season) . Nice to see them win it and fully deserved. 4 of our back 5 making the best 11 shows how important our defence really was in winning no.6. The year before our front 3 all hit 10 goals each and they carried us, last year they didn't get near those numbers but our defence took care of results. Clean sheets against napoli bayern Barcelona and crucially spurs were the difference. And seeing Virgil sitting alongside Messi and Ronaldo before claiming his award shows the level he's at. And it would be fantastic to see him scoop the ballon dor come the end of the year.


2.) 30 Aug 2019 06:10:24
VVD didn't win the Ballon D'Or - He won the UEFA Men's Player of the Year Award.

The Ballon D'Or has been won by defenders such as Cannavaro and Beckenbauer.


3.) 30 Aug 2019 06:52:26
And I’m pretty sure Michael Owen did win the Ballon D’dor didn’t he? So an Prem and LFC player has won it before.

{Ed025's Note - yeah in 2001 westwood..


4.) 30 Aug 2019 07:47:07
Ronaldo won it when he was in the premier league as well also 2008 I believe. Nevertheless I understand what your point is SGRed and I agree it’s great to see the players getting accolades for last season. Hopefully the team as a whole pick up a couple more trophies as a collective this season.


5.) 30 Aug 2019 08:33:12
My bad - jumped the gun there. 😉.


6.) 30 Aug 2019 15:00:17
Or you just saw into the future SGR ;)


7.) 30 Aug 2019 20:15:30
IMO, VVD should win the Ballon D'Or this season, Messi and CR7 have not even deserved to be shortlisted and even if they were, VVD's performances and immediate impact on not just LFC's brilliant season BUT on Holland as a whole, is all you need. A great player is judged on not just how he performs BUT most importantly, does he make his team mates better.

Nobody can ever deny how much VVD has made his team mates better up and down the pitch, something CR7 and Messi did not do this season. Having said that, I won't be shocked if one of Messi or Ronaldo wins cos it is now political instead of actually being judged on your talent and the substance of your performances.

{Ed025's Note - yeah all liverpool players should make team of the year according to you, klopp should be made pope, bobby prime minister and alisson the new dalai lama, have a day off will you mate ffs..


8.) 30 Aug 2019 20:37:37
Well SGRed was describing the UEFA award which was only created in 2010 in which time he was right in saying no PL player or any defender has won. Ronaldo and Messi a few times and I think ribery, modric and maybe iniesta the only others to win.


9.) 30 Aug 2019 21:27:05
😂😂😂😂 cracker Ed.


10.) 30 Aug 2019 21:52:39
Nice troll job, Bitter Bro a. k. a Ed25. Your whind-up game is getting lame, man. Losing your touch? Not going to bite BUT thanks for playing, tho. Peace!

{Ed025's Note - just trying to help man..peace..


11.) 31 Aug 2019 09:10:49
Top man, Ed25.


 

 

26 Jul 2019 09:30:20
Any idea why no Shaqiri yet in preseason? When does he return? He could be very important in early season given the front three are returning late from various competitions.

SGRed

1.) 26 Jul 2019 10:36:33
I think he is injured.


2.) 26 Jul 2019 10:42:18
He will be back with Keita to join the training camp in france.


3.) 26 Jul 2019 11:48:49
Shaqiri got injured with Switzerland and is out for a while. I don't think he will be back until after the season starts.


4.) 26 Jul 2019 13:34:51
Torn calf muscle wasn’t it?


5.) 26 Jul 2019 16:39:01
Thanks - that’s a real shame, we’re looking very light on top quality forwards for the first 2-3 weeks of the season.

My pick would be to play Ox wide and hopefully Firmino can play through the middle and Origi left.


6.) 26 Jul 2019 18:27:34
SGRed, Ox is nursing a calf problem as well. either way, not too worried cos we always find a way to get it done so I don't see how things will be diff.


7.) 27 Jul 2019 00:49:21
Salah should be ready to start season, possibly bobby too. Also expect another forward signed to maybe play or else origi can. No major stress on my behalf.


 

 

02 Jun 2019 07:02:23
Not the most exciting football I've ever seen, but it also shows Liverpool's growth in maturity over the last 12 months. They knew they had the upper hand in this match once they scored, and they played the percentages perfectly to limit Tottenhams chances and back themselves to score a second. A very professional performance that says volumes about where we are right now - capable of winning matches any number of ways - which is what's required to be the very best.

Congratulations Reds, you've made us incredible proud this season, and thoroughly deserved winners, it would have been a travesty to end up empty handed after the way this teams played this year, but also after last years dissappointment.

I think this will be massive in terms of getting the 'also rans' tag off Klopp and this squads back heading into next season. I expect the confidence boost to be huge for the squad and back us to challenge heavily next year in the PL.

SGRed

{Ed025's Note - the fans were brilliant and the singing amazing where i was SG, pity really that we witnessed the most insipid boring cup final in the history of sport, what should have been a showcase of english football turned out to be the dampest squib ever im afraid, congratulations to the reds of course but its a pity none of the teams turned up..


1.) 02 Jun 2019 07:55:27
That’s what happens when you decide to play the final in June. 3 weeks after season has finished.

{Ed025's Note - i was just hoping for so much more benny, liverpool have played some great football this season and spurs are usually a good team to watch, i suppose the goal came too early but i was surprised that liverpool shut up shop after 2 minutes, im glad the reds got something out of this season though mate..


2.) 02 Jun 2019 07:56:47
Ed025 while it was not an entertaining game in the slightest both Milan Vs juve and united Vs Chelsea were worse finals than this one. I'd place this third on the last of dullest finals ever.

{Ed025's Note - its top for me nevada, mainly because these are two teams who have been entertaining all season i suppose, when everton are in it in a couple of years i hope we perform better than that mate.. :)


3.) 02 Jun 2019 08:11:04
I just feel sorry for all football fans everywhere that they had to sit through that dross and then to top it off, watch us lift the trophy. Dark days indeed. Six of them, to be precise.

{Ed025's Note - love it RITWW..


4.) 02 Jun 2019 08:13:15
Last night wasn't about making a showcase it was about bringing the trophy home, we was so close a year ago, all the hard work was done I the semi final, last night was a great professional performance.

{Ed025's Note - it was all about winning MR i agree but did it have to be such a borefest?, this is apparently the showcase of european football, but it ended up being like a sunday league game and a bad one at that mate..


5.) 02 Jun 2019 08:27:09
Very boring final overall but I don't care how it was done, point is, we did it and I couldn't be more proud of this team! bring on the 7th ;) .

{Ed025's Note - and im glad your so easily pleased mate.. :)


6.) 02 Jun 2019 08:38:04
The way we played is proof that Klopp has learned from his mistakes. Last year we were all over the place causing the players to be nervous and the substitutions were bad too.

This year Klopp had a clear plan and i feel he outsmarted his opponent and made vital subs at the right time (something he wasnt been good at) . It was a boring game but a controlled game.

{Ed025's Note - if the klopp plan included scoring early then shutting up shop and boring the arse off the watching public in the showcase event of european football then it worked a treat..


7.) 02 Jun 2019 08:52:48
I think the 3 week break affected both sides and were looking rusty. That much time to prepare and focus for 1 huge game can also add nerves and pressure. Both teams looked so sloppy at times and the early goal prevented us from risking an open game.

The difference with this side is the defence can now be trusted to soak and deal with pressure. Recent Liverpool sides since rafa left would rarely be able, we always needed to score a few goals. Klopp made the right approach to get the win, 2 early proactive subs too was good to see. 30° heat didn't help the contest either, bound to slow 2 high energy running teams to a degree. I couldn't care less though haha.

{Ed025's Note - yeah har maybe they were tired after playing 90 minutes a week for 8 months, and players like salah, firmino and mane are not used to heat like that coming from where they hail from, its a very tough life being a professional footballer these days mate...i will factor that in from now on..


8.) 02 Jun 2019 09:07:39
I think we’re all forgetting Steau Bucharest vs Barcelona and Red Star vs Marseille. Now they were dour games! I don’t suppose anyone from those two clubs care a jot now. It was a pretty bad games last night but I’ll always remember it for Origi’s goal, oh and number 6 in the bag😃.

{Ed025's Note - i will remember it for being a great night with all singing all dancing liverpool supporters and an atmosphere in the pub being second to none devon, its a pity that the football spoilt the occasion slightly because it was absolutely dire mate, and a lot worse than any of the games you mentioned there my friend..


9.) 02 Jun 2019 09:14:49
I think spurs and Liverpool are getting harsh attention drawn to this poor game. Both sides have given so much entertainment on the way. 2 amazing gutsy semi final comebacks, spurs took city out in a goalfest and we also dominated bayern. Plenty of goals and attacking styles and also dramatic moments to get out of group stages.

Overall it was a cracking champions league, so many moments, United comeback against PSG, ajax toppling juve and real Madrid. 2 of the greatest semis and last minute var decisions knocking city out. Finals with clubs from same country always annoy me.


10.) 02 Jun 2019 09:20:37
I never said they were tired once, just rusty from lack of recent game time. It's obviously easier to play in 10-15° degree heat than 30 no matter where you're from, I'm not making excuses just suggesting possible factors for that dull dreary game.

{Ed025's Note - one of the factors may be that klopp was so desperate to finally win something that entertainment had to be sacrificed, it worked though even though i must say i feel for the fans who paid extortionate amounts of money to go to madrid and witness crap like that mate..


11.) 02 Jun 2019 09:25:55
Did you have a good day out Ed25 mate? did you have your Liverpool shirt on? ;) I know you did, go on, admit it! hahaha hope you had a good one mate.

{Ed025's Note - i had a great time salah, the booze was flowing from 4pm and the atmosphere in the allerton oak was amazing, i never wore red though thats a bit beyond the pale for me but in the ensuing frenzy of the origi goal i may just have joined in a chorus of allez allez allez, i do remember the highlight of the game though....it was a throw in on the half way line mate.. :)


12.) 02 Jun 2019 09:26:02
as a neutral can imagine it wasnt a great watch. That all italian final and the manU v chelsea finals were both utter dross in terms of teams cancelling each other out and not playing. This one was more like two rusty teams. Ah well I don't care!

{Ed025's Note - i dont either faith, i had a cracking day until i got home and found out i had lost my key, i had to get the enemy up from her slumber and she had a face like harry kane mate.. :)


13.) 02 Jun 2019 09:45:35
Red Star Belgrade v Marseille must be the worst final of all time, Red Star played for penalties. It was shocking and must have put millions of kids off ever playing football again.

{Ed025's Note - that game was a feast to the eyes compare with yesterdays debacle greenflash..


14.) 02 Jun 2019 09:49:05
That's a good point actually ed. I remember in the Europa league final against Seville in his first year we were 1 up and cruising, we weren't capable as a team back then to suffocate and kill a game. It's not pretty but winning is what we needed. I'm sure every single red who made that great commitment to be in Madrid will have enjoyed every second of it. It's the neutrals who have been left frustrated with that showing

It's sad to see the chaos and costs that these finals are now demanding. I saw that a fella was selling his ticket a few hours before kick off outside the ground. He was given 10,000 in cash there and then by somebody for it. Complete madness.

{Ed025's Note - yeah its complete madness har...£10,000 to watch that sleep inducing pile of crap...thats 3000 beer vouchers and at least 20 doner kebabs mate.. :)


15.) 02 Jun 2019 09:41:05
Course he was desperate, we could have gone for it and maybe lost, you would then be saying Kloppo blew another final. Can't win!

{Ed025's Note - fair point mate..


16.) 02 Jun 2019 09:57:05
Ed25 Hang on a minute, are we suddenly looking for style points now in a CL final? Rubbish, bro. As any coach or player will tell you, a final is only great IF you win and for us and Klopp, nothing else matters so the people who want entertainment for a final can go watch the 2013 CL final between Dortmund and Bayern.

I actually thought is was a decent game, not great of course. People saying it was a borefest should give their heads a wobble, IMO. I have much WAY more dire CL finals than this one. If you are looking for a borefest of a CL final, I propose you go watch the 1998 final btw Real Madris and Juve, 2003 final btw Milan and Juve or the 2010 final btw Inter and Bayern well, if you can get through any of these games w/ o jamming a fork through your hand, just to check if you still have a pulse while watching.

{Ed025's Note - if you really thought that was a decent game red wolf then you need to visit goodison a bit more mate, it was a pathetic excuse for a game of football and even the more biased of reds will say the same, my point was that it was a good opportunity for us to promote the english game in europes elite competition, but instead of game of thrones...we gave them crossroads..


17.) 02 Jun 2019 10:04:54
Hahaha, about right mate, glad you enjoyed your day Ed! I had a quiet one in, well, not so quiet but you know!


18.) 02 Jun 2019 10:42:08
This might have already been asked and answered but with half the tickets only being allocated officially to clubs how exactly is the other 30000 or so spread out? I understand that UEFA officials etc and the stadiums club too get a share. But who else gets large allocations or is it too complicated to nail down? It's so wrong to see the way UEFA and FIFA are sucking the love and passion away from the fans so blatantly. The Europa league was a disgraceful setup, finals being hosted in areas that realistically will be competed by sides from other side of continent. Kyiv last year too, and United Chelsea travelling to Moscow. Qatar hosting the world cup has zero football sense, only monitary. Steps need to be taken to stop this as it's only getting worse every year.

{Ed025's Note - im with you har..


19.) 02 Jun 2019 09:52:45
My guess Ed025 is that the fans in Madrid gave even less of a toss about the quality than us here at home, just imagine how they would have felt at the final whistle - the cost of being there would be truly irrelevant. Early goals in big finals often spoil the game, both teams had their finest moments on the way there, to moan too much about the actual final seems a bit churlish I reckon.

{Ed025's Note - maybe its just me johnny..


20.) 02 Jun 2019 14:42:33
sucky about your key 25!

{Ed025's Note - i know faith i went back before but its not been handed in, probably some hot totty took it so she can sneak into my house and have her wicked way with me mate.. :)


21.) 02 Jun 2019 15:24:08
Yeah, Ed25. It's just you, IMO.


 

 

18 May 2019 06:04:12
Interested in people's thoughts as to how Liverpool should approach the final. My own view is to go aggressive rather than a more balanced approach.

I feel like Tottenham are a very dangerous side and like to press and put sides under pressure, so if we play it too casual there's a risk we lose the upper hand and just give them encouragement. Their players are likely to feel underdogs and like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity so if we let them get their confidence we could make things much harder for ourselves than we should.

I'd like to see us go hard after them from the first whistle and let them know who's boss and try make sure they don't have time to breath. Press high and hard and try to get the first goal early like we did vs Barcelona.

SGRed

1.) 18 May 2019 06:49:26
That last bit sounds like a dirty movie haha.

{Ed025's Note - love it sandon..


2.) 18 May 2019 07:41:24
My tactics would be to go smash them. Run like nutters for 90 mins and give Spurs no respite while playing the skillful type of game we've played all season. Most players have a nice holiday after the final so no excuses for not putting in maximum effort. After the final whistle, Id like to see the Liverpool players shatered yet ecstatic.


3.) 18 May 2019 08:00:10
tell robbo and trent if they both play to just pressure tripper and rose who can't defend.


4.) 18 May 2019 08:14:19
Totally agree to chasing everything.

Love the dirty movie reference! Toxteth does Tottenham?

😂😂.


5.) 18 May 2019 09:15:41
Personally I’m slightly apprehensive if the match descends to a Championship play-off -style slug fest. A de luxe version of the Leeds v Derby game the other night is what we don’t need really but it’s probably going to happen at some point.
Two English teams and all that.
I’d rather a more controlled game, play Gomez at CB (tough on Matip, I know) and a high line, controlled press out of possession, keep our heads and don’t tear arse around everywhere like headless chickens.


6.) 18 May 2019 09:27:23
Don’t care as long as Jurgen gets to drop a few BOOMS!


7.) 18 May 2019 11:06:20
OP if you know anything about LFC under Klopp, you would know that we always start big games fast and intense right from the first whistle. All you have to do is watch all our big games this season esp. at Anfield as well as the Barcelona game to know this. Even vs Spurs at Anfield, we started the exact same way and rocked them in that first half.

Also, remember when we played Madrid last season in Kiev, we had them on the rack for the first 25 minutes (they couldn't get out of their own half) until Salah was targeted by Ramos IMO (I say that cos he targeted Karius as well and got him concussed), and injured him.

Therefore to your point, I am certain that we will come out flying out of the traps vs Spurs cos it is simply who we are. We do not play any differently. Also, we are capable of playing high tempo football AND keeping things under control hence, controlled chaos if you like. This is what Klopp implemented at the start of the season to get us to the point of winning the PL and making the CL final and win it. So don't fret, our boys will be super-prepared for this huge task cos Spurs are NO slouches. Cheers, my friend.


8.) 18 May 2019 11:13:22
Spurs have an incredibly fit team too don’t they? I agree with the approach suggested but they may be able to keep up with ha a little more than others can. On another note Goodluck to Watford today hoping for a Troy Deeney hatrick.


9.) 18 May 2019 11:15:17
The thing with spurs is they are capable of running all day the break will of done them good.


10.) 18 May 2019 11:54:46
I wouldn’t change anything for the final, play like we’ve played 90% of the season.

In sport a good mantra is “do what your opponent least wants you to do”. So on that basis Spurs have been complaining about fatigue and mental exhaustion. That will be ramped up 10x in the final, their legs will feel like lead when they go on that pitch.
So in agreement with the others, I would play high intensity football, I would get shots on goal early whilst nerves are jangling.
This is their first final, this is our second (with this squad) . We are wiser this time.


11.) 18 May 2019 12:25:13
If we play to our potential then we will win.

We should play with intensity coupled with discipline.

It would have been a bit of a concern last season but our team has grown this season.

It is a final and anything can happen but so long as we have a fit Bobby Sadio and Mo up front then I am pretty confident that we will get number 6.

If we do get number 6 it will be an interesting debate as to whether we or Citeh had the better season.


12.) 18 May 2019 17:37:33
Scouse john LB, and our team aren't super fit and can't run for all day? Or the break would not do us any good but would do them good? I don't understand the thought behind your post.


13.) 18 May 2019 17:48:07
Agree with Juicer personally, don't just go out all guns blazing, look to control the game and work the chances. We have a lot of different outlets attacking wise and we have a capable defence. We could go all out, get hit on the counter, and be a goal down early - it's a Champions League final, I think the same approach we had last year (before Salah got Judo thrown), controlled attacking play, is the way forward.


 

 

 

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30 Oct 2019 02:07:12
Elliot is OK

I’d like to see a squad of

Origi - Brewster - Elliott
Keita - Hendo - Ox
Larouci - Lovren - Gomez - Milner
Kelleher (although I’d probably rather Adrian)

Rests our forwards, Fabinho and VVD while still a good mix of youth, but experience in midfield and at CB

Curtis Jones to come on off the bench.

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17 Sep 2019 02:26:20
Mane or Salah are also both capable of playing striker, I’d rather see Shaqiri or Ox used as subs for this game, and then ease Brewster into MK Dons. It’s a lot to ask for him to step into a Napoli away match, even if only a sub.

Hope Robbo is OK but if not I agree 100% should be Milner.

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02 Sep 2019 13:09:43
Hope works out for him - was unlikely to play for us so good luck to the lad and Rangers win something with him and Ojo.

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28 Aug 2019 07:14:07
It’s tough at the junior level, opportunities to break through to competitive first team football are rare, perhaps Bobby is simply looking at Brewster and Glatzel and figuring if he gets a shot anywhere competitive he simply can’t afford to turn it down. Doesn’t mean he’s trying to hold Liverpool hostage.

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06 Aug 2019 14:59:23
Happy with that - if he performs well in PL then we’ll either have a much better player to bring back or someone we can sell for more. Good luck to the lad.

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18 Nov 2019 14:01:36
Agreed Virgil - it’s like picking a favourite child. not very productive when all three are so awesome!

The original question is fair though, what to do if Firmino isn’t available? My own view is we don’t have anyone who can replicate him in the squad so why try?

I’d be playing Mane through the middle and Origi out on the left. He may not be the best wing ever but he’s been very productive cutting inside, and with Robbo on the overlap he doesn’t need to be. Mane through the middle also offers a threat and something different to Firmino.

Origi at CF is a good strategy mostly at the death IMO (and particularly when we’re chasing goals) as he has more presence in the box than Firmino, and isn’t required to play the playmaker role at that stage of the match.

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12 Nov 2019 12:28:11
Hendos always had a great whipped cross in from the right hand side IMO, much like Gini has always had the ability to score get into the box and score goals, I think the big difference is Klopp is now letting them go forward more with Fabinho looking increasingly capable capable of controlling the rest of midfield on his own.

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06 Nov 2019 14:45:55
I’d go with

CWC
Allison
Trent, Gomez, VVD, Robbo
Ox, Fabinho, Gini
Salah, Firmino, Origi
Subs : Elliott, Herbie Kane, Hoever, Van der Berg, Kelleher

Carabao
Adrian
Nico W, Matip, Gomez, Larouci
Milner, Hendo, Keita
Shaqiri, Brewster, Mane
Subs : Curtis Jones, Lallana, Chirivella, Adam Lewis, Gallaher, Lonergan

I hear Koumetio is well rated but don’t know much about him, also there are others like Dixon-Bonner, Abdi Sharif, Fidel O’Rourke, Jake Cain, Christie-Davies to fill out the squads.

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06 Nov 2019 00:56:29
Thankfully neither are really critically important, the real worry for me is injuries

I’d split The seniors down the middle and fill out the squads using u23s, should be able to put together two decent squads of 10 first teamers and 10 kids for each competition. The only really major problems would probably be in the fullback positions and in the forwards where we are a bit light.

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05 Nov 2019 00:33:44
Shocking decision but only because he drew the line twice when the first time didn’t suit, and the naked eye would seem to have validated Firmino was clearly onside.

I can’t believe the technology allowed him to deliberately draw a non-straight line though. That to me is all about the camera angle and perspective.

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{Ed025's Note - that to me is cheating SG..