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06 Mar 2020 16:24:38
Alisson out of Borunemouth game with hip injury, possibly to miss Atletico too.

Glad we have Adrian and not Migs as backup!

Get well soon, Mr Becker!


1.) 06 Mar 2020 17:07:06
No Allison and Henderson, it's all falling apart right now for us. This couldn't of happened at a worse time.

2.) 06 Mar 2020 18:27:31
It’s all falling apart 🤣🤣🤣

Give yourself a wobble mate.

3.) 06 Mar 2020 20:15:26
What a comment to make using that name!

4.) 07 Mar 2020 09:52:41
Of more concern is the Coronavirus affecting not just people but matches. I can see the campaign being cut short and even if they award us the title, it'll forever be tainted and opposition fans will forever level it at us.
Obviously I'm more bothered about people getting ill.

{Ed001's Note - why would matches get cancelled? They would play them behind closed doors and even if it was cut short, we are so far ahead it would not be tainted in anyone's eyes if it was awarded to us.}

5.) 07 Mar 2020 10:51:14
Hahaha flash I thought exactly the same mate.

'it's all falling apart' oh my word, the days of us relying on 1 or 2 players are gone mate, we have a TEAM now of quality players, falling apart my backside, what a stupid comment.

6.) 08 Mar 2020 09:00:50
Ed how far away do you think we are from playing games behind closed doors mate? Praying the whole thing doesn’t get scrapped nil and void. Take it the players will have rules what to do and where not to go to avoid them getting it also?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, the whole thing is just a giant panic so who knows? The chances of the league getting scrapped are almost zero. I don't even know why a story so ludicrous would be believed by anyone.}

7.) 08 Mar 2020 15:58:17
As a guess i think if they pass a threshold on cases/ rate of spread games and events will be behind close doors. I'll be amazed if they get postponed as there is very little advantage.

8.) 09 Mar 2020 02:26:34
It would be sad if we win the league after 30 years and the players have to celebrate in an empty stadium.

9.) 09 Mar 2020 20:01:57
It's not like there won't be millions of people on the streets outside Anfield anyway!



15 Jul 2019 12:44:47
Just read on BBC Sport that Coutinho has agreed a 2 year loan with option to buy to return to Liverpool. Seems to originate from an Italian site (which is bizarre in itself as he's a Brazilian playing for a Spanish side, moving (apparently) to an English side!


1.) 15 Jul 2019 13:14:11
Sounds like BS to me. Still think we're a better team without him and I know we'd all like an Attacking Mid who can change games but I think I'd like one with more pace and with the knack of arriving late into the box and banging in the odd goal or 10 - on past form that's not really Couts game.

2.) 15 Jul 2019 13:14:45
Ignore it Zeddicus mate. All fabrication. I have more chance of signing for us next season that he has mate.

3.) 15 Jul 2019 13:23:07
His agent kia jorachim was on radio this morning saying he's not leaving Barcelona this summer. Although I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

4.) 15 Jul 2019 13:23:51
As if Barcelona will loan him for 2 years with an option too buy for 88million, honestly its laughable .

5.) 15 Jul 2019 13:33:33
Really see no upside to that deal for Barcelona, if it was just an option to buy. A commitment to buy would make more sense, especially if there was also a considerable loan payment made, but a) that's not what the article says and b) I don't think it's true in any way.

6.) 15 Jul 2019 13:52:44
A 2 year loan with an option to buy at the end of the loan would just be ridiculous from Barcelona's point of view. As a player he seems to be in decline.

So if he's worth £88 million now, he'll be worth less at the end of the loan in 2 years time. I also cannot see where he would fit into this Liverpool team.

7.) 15 Jul 2019 14:13:01
Isn't the 88million the amount that Barcelona still owe us? So basically we can have him for 2 years and then keep him. To be fair I'd take him. he would of turned 1 of those draws last season into a win. at least 1. I know he left in bad circumstances, but we all make some mistakes in life. Hopefully there is a chance of him fekir or cornet.

8.) 15 Jul 2019 15:07:52
The team were better after he left. I’d rather a player that fit us better. I’d also rather have the money barcelona owe us, Coutinho is worth far less then that. It’s worth keeping the books balanced so we’re ready when an alisson/ Van dijk comes along.

9.) 15 Jul 2019 15:34:41
Personally I’d take him back in a heartbeat. Proven in the prem and no matter how it’s gone in Spain he is still a class player no matter what anyone thinks of him.

10.) 15 Jul 2019 16:11:55
A two year loan with an option to buy isn’t that crazy, I think that’s what bayern had for James Rodriguez.
But I don’t think this would happen it will upset too many people.

He doesn’t suit our current play style as he holds onto the ball too long but he’s one of the best in world at breaking a team down when they play deep. A master of cute flicks and passes. His assist to Sturridge when he turned his back on the ball and let it roll over his heel was just ridiculous.

11.) 15 Jul 2019 17:11:36
If you wouldn't have Coutinho back because of the way he angled to leave the club, fair play, understandable, but saying he couldn't improve the team or that he is in declined is outrageous. Do I think Barcelona would approve the above transfer? Nah. Would I have him back? Yes.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but I disagree, he is not that good and we are better without him. Most overrated player around right now, for some reason people are blinded by him and seem to think he is much better than he is. I do agree he has not declined, he just isn't good enough.}

12.) 15 Jul 2019 17:26:48
The way I read it was that he "approved" of the opportunity to do it, no that it was agreed to by either of the teams involved or that it was nailed on.

13.) 15 Jul 2019 17:29:23
We would have won the league with Phil in the team last season. I'd love him back, though i'm certain this is utter nonsense.

14.) 15 Jul 2019 19:46:08

He wouldn't have got a game with that recurring back injury. ;)

15.) 15 Jul 2019 19:47:38
Never thought he was good enough. We won the lottery when he left not just money the team improved he was a noose around its neck. Can’t believe we still talking about him. There is no one in our squad I would drop for him.

16.) 15 Jul 2019 19:54:50
SG4EVA. With Coutinho in the team, we may have won a game or two that we drew, but some of those 1-0 and 2-1 wins were down to having 11 players completely grafting for the cause.

What I'm saying is that we may have won one of those draws, but also dropped other points due to him taking another valuable member's place.

Who would you have him play instead of? Mane? Henderson? Wijnaldum? He doesn't have anywhere near the level of commitment that those bring to our team.

17.) 15 Jul 2019 21:02:22
The main thing people remember when you mention Coutinho is his goals from outside the box and quick feet in tight spaces. Besides those what else has he got? He doesn't put in a defensive shift, he can sometimes be a bit selfish and shoot when there is no chance instead of keeping possession and he developed a back problem wearing the weight of the red shirt 😂
I mean if it was really stress that caused his sore back, his back should be broken with how it’s worked out for him in Spain.

18.) 15 Jul 2019 21:30:28
I really want Coutinho back. He can rotate with the front three and if he does well maybe we can change from 433 to a 4231 as we did with Shaqiri.

19.) 15 Jul 2019 22:56:40
Epic potato we had coutinho we didn't score 90 point or win the champions league. Those players you infer aren't as good did and went a whole season only losing away to Manchester City. Two great teams competed and Liverpool finished second if you want to blame anything blame the weather against Leicester the red card that wasn't against Leicester and the stone wall penalty that wasn't against Leicester. Rather than suggesting a player that wasn't good enough to compete at this level previously is now all of a sudden the reason why a team that well surpassed the teams he's competed in is the reason they didn't win the league. Pfft come on pull the ovther one.

20.) 15 Jul 2019 23:23:26
EpicPotato, I'd have Coutinho in the team ahead of Wijnaldum any day, Gini seems to be afforded the luxury of being useless away from home because he grafts a lot. Often people bemoaned our midfield last year for no creative spark and no goals, Couts gives you that.

People keep saying we were better without him, only because we used his money to buy VVD and Alisson, surely it's not because we finally rid ourselves of Coutinhos terrible football? He was great for us, him feeding Mane, Salah and Bobby would be great in my opinion mate.

21.) 15 Jul 2019 22:50:10
Ed001 bang on the money he was a decent player in a n average team for years. Passing is ok his finishing is poor except from the one shot coming in from the left. Liverpool and klopp did great business in seeking him to Barcelona. I'd like to see the club strengthen the depth of the squad to compete in all competitions but that shouldn't be taking an expensive step back to take on a player that's average at best. The deals for the Dutch cb and that Fulham lad are a great step forward. 16 and 17. Hope that Brewster plays more thieves season and then there's origi and shaqiri so maybe that depth is there. Be an interesting season as the squad will be closer now and be European champions. Ox coming back lallana stays fit keita settles in ( glimpses of geniuses at times last year) . So it's a no for coutinho would like to see more goals from midfield but I'm being picky. Expect a quiet month.

22.) 16 Jul 2019 05:11:18
SG84EVA, nearly every game coutinho played for us in a midfield 2/ 3, he was absolutely useless iirc. He drifted around aimlessly far too much instead of getting involved and our tactic was pretty much 'try and give the ball to couts so he can do something with it' because he was never going to try and get it himself.
He was far more effective out on the left, but he doesn't get ahead of Origi as backup out wide for me.

23.) 16 Jul 2019 12:11:30
SG84EVA it's very easy to look at hard working midfielders and say they don't create anything but you would be wrong and you would most definitely not be considering their overall effect on the game.

The it running and pressing creates space for forward players as the opponent have to chase them around. In addition to this they win the ball back much further up the pitch which takes advantage of space.

Do they play the Hollywood killer passes? No but to say they create nothing shows a lack of understanding of the team element of football.

24.) 16 Jul 2019 20:10:27
I've said this numerous times, coutinho flits in and out of games. Does nothing then scores a worldy. It was good business to get rid. If you can't make it in the Spanish league playing for the best team, you won't make it in the premier league. Though you have to give the lad more than one season to produce the goods.

25.) 16 Jul 2019 20:41:31
Cou is history and should stay there, permanently. He is not good enuff cos if he was, why would Barcelona want rid of him? People don't ask that cos all they want is the good parts of Cou's stay here and not the bad parts. We were and are a much better team without him at every level and that much is clear.

"He can turn some of those draws into wins". You mean like he didn't do when he was here? That is just ludicrous. Sorry, I am not interested in Barca's sloppy second's and IMO, neither is Klopp. We are better without him as a team, a group of players and as a club. We have rallied after his departure and come good with flying colors so what would he be doing here when we are already better w/ o him? What will he add that he couldn't add before he left? People are yet to offer any response to this and other pressing questions.



13 Jun 2019 14:41:43
Hey Eds n Reds, can any of you advise as to whether Roma have formally registered any interest with us for Karius?

A story from Fontomac in Italy is listed on the Echo news feed for today.

As a follow up, are the terms of Kariius's loan deal with Besiktas such that it can be broken by us (if we get an offer for his permanent placement, for example)?

Thank you!


{Ed002's Note - If Roma are interested they need to speak with Besiktas and Liverpool. The loan could potentially be bought out. Roma has a failing goalkeeper and interest in replacing him and have to my knowledge three goalkeepers on their list - not including Karius. They also have a new coach but there is a strong chance of a significant change happening there which may put everything on hold for a short-while.}

1.) 13 Jun 2019 17:10:27
OK, thanks for the info Ed002 :)

2.) 13 Jun 2019 18:11:48
Thought Roma has a pretty decent keeper a couple seasons ago, what happened to him?

3.) 13 Jun 2019 18:35:19
He became a Champions League winner Firmane lol!

4.) 13 Jun 2019 20:27:02
Think last decent keeper they had before big boy Becker was Szczeny.



09 May 2019 09:16:44
I've just called Anfield to check if they plan to show the final this season like they did last year. I was told that there are no plans to do so, but if things change then it will go up on the website.

Sounded like a rehearsed answer to me, so I guess it's a wait an see.

Do I book a hotel room or not?! 🤷‍♂️😂

Anyway, thought I'd share that to save other ringing up too.


{Ed002's Note - Thanks Z. They are probably too busy sorting out the hospitality tickets anyway.}

1.) 09 May 2019 12:13:53
I would imagine they will zed. I already have the boat from Belfast booked so I'm hoping so!

2.) 09 May 2019 12:43:57
Well worth booking a room in liverpool anyway there won't be many bars without the game on and the atmosphere will be insane, took the girlfriend to watch the seville game and despite my horrible mood after the game she still fell in love with the passion in the city, 3rd time lucky for her to see us lift a european trophy our hotel was booked 10 mins after the whistle!

3.) 09 May 2019 18:37:30
To be honest Swifty, you’re mrs is sounding like a bit of a jinx to be honest 😂.

{Ed025's Note - love it hopeful..

4.) 09 May 2019 19:11:28
Think we’ll have to use this year as the barometer ed, if it all goes pear shaped he’s going to have some tough choices to make.
Joking aside, just read something that suggested the game mightn’t be shown due to the take that concert taking place at Anfield 🙄. Anyway, the atmosphere in the city will be electric and I’m sure if we all pray, show how deep is our love for LFC and have a little patience, the good times could be back for good and we could go on to rule the world. These days, it only takes a minute to score a goal, could it be magic?, absolutely if our players shine and never forget, everything changes in a game so quickly and even if we fall behind, if we play like giants it could still be the greatest day.

5.) 09 May 2019 21:35:04
The game is not going to be shown at Anfield due to the commitments to the concerts being held. The merchandising for the final has been hampered also by these previous commitments.

6.) 09 May 2019 22:21:10
It was a fantastic atmosphere last year and something nice to do for those fans like myself who missed out on tickets in the ballot.

Fingers crossed I’ll be in Madrid this year so won’t have to worry about it!

One thought is that the ground is hosting a take that concert on the Thursday after. Perhaps too little time to clear the necessaries to show the final and then set up for the concert? (I doubt it but you never know) .

7.) 09 May 2019 23:16:28
I put all that effort into shoehorning as many take that songs into that reply and no one even noticed. Honestly, I don’t know why I bother 😤😂.

8.) 10 May 2019 01:07:04
I thought the same hopeful until we scored 3 just after she walked in from work tuesday so decided she might not be all bad!

9.) 10 May 2019 11:18:13
There will be plenty of bars in the city centre to watch it and the atmosphere will be amazing. Also read that they might be showing it at the Echo Arena like the last couple of finals.

10.) 11 May 2019 15:02:37
It could be due to the concerts that we are having at Anfield this years off season for the first time make it unavailable.



08 Jan 2019 10:57:45
One for Ed001 and Ed002 if possible. I see that Godin is potentially being touted for Man Utd.

Do we hold any interest at all? Given his age and experience, do you think he would be a good choice to rotate with VVD and Gomez? I would expect Lovren to make way.

Is the fee being asked for him high in this market (ie >€30m) or less than that? I'm not sure of his contract situation.




{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any interest from us and I have no idea what price is being asked sorry. I am a bit out of touch at the moment.}

1.) 08 Jan 2019 11:56:06
Thanks Tris. I know you’ve been a fan of Godin’s. In your view, would he be a good addition for us, even at 32? Would he work well with VVD and Gomez given their relative speed?

{Ed001's Note - I love Godin and training with Gomez and VVD would be great for them to learn the dark arts of defending, as Godin is the master of them in the modern game. However he is not really suited to our style of play on the pitch, so, much as I love him, it would maybe not be as good a signing as it would seem on the face of it. Moving to a higher paced league at the age of 32 would be difficult enough for him, without asking him to play 15 yards further up the pitch than he usually does.}

2.) 08 Jan 2019 12:25:48
Sorry, forgot to add, whether you think we need another CB at the expense of Lovren and/ or Matip? The way I see it we now have a very good squad and just need to tweak round the edges to ensure the replacements for our first 11 a) can play in the same way to allow for better integration (not like Sturridge for example) and b) are of a slightly better quality than some we have.

To find very good players who are happy with rotation, in my view you either go for players are the start or end of their careers.

{Ed025's Note - the problem is zed that you dont have "a very good squad", you have a very good first team but i think yesterday showed that the squad is just about how weak as it can get mate, just my view of course..

3.) 08 Jan 2019 12:41:04
Thanks Tris. He sounds like one to keep tabs on and nab in a few years time when he moves into coaching!

4.) 08 Jan 2019 13:03:52
This squad we have is good when we don't have to use them. On paper it's solid but in action it's atrocious!

5.) 08 Jan 2019 13:04:22
P. s. I think our first team is outstanding, not “very good” 😉.

6.) 08 Jan 2019 13:03:39
I take your point Ed025, but the team yesterday wasn’t a team we would put out in the premiership. The Man City team, for example, was an adult lot of regular starters. Maybe very good is pushing it, and we definitely don’t have 2 players for each position. I honestly think our biggest issue is having 3 other attackers in the same mould as our regular 3. Sturridge and Origi play a different type of game which unbalanced the rest of the team too. I have high hopes for Brewster, especially as he had been modelling himself on Bobby, and would like to see how well Kent could do back in our team, not forgetting Woodburn too. However, I suspect we will see Origi and Studge gone by the summer and at least one new player brought in. Would still love for that to be Fekir.

7.) 08 Jan 2019 16:18:09
Top and bottom is first 15 are quality the rest are bang average.

8.) 08 Jan 2019 18:35:36

Alisson/ Mignolet --- Ederson/ Bravo


A. Arnold/ Camacho/ --- Walker/ Danilo
Robertson/ Moreno --- Mendy/ Zinchenko
VanDijk/ Matip --- Stones/ Otamendi
Lovren/ Gomez --- Laporte/ Kompany


Henderson/ Fabinho --- Fernandinho/ Delph
Milner/ Keita --- DeBruyne/ Gundogan
Wijnaldum/ Chamberlain --- D. Silva/ Foden


Salah/ Shaqiri --- Sterling/ B. Silva
Mane/ Lallana --- Sane/ Mahrez
Firmino/ Sturridge --- Aguero/ G. Jesus

We have nice depth.

{Ed025's Note - kidding yourself mate..

9.) 08 Jan 2019 17:35:38
I think the problem is that we have about 15 players who have been fully integrated into the Klopp playing style. Some of the others are good to very good players who can't/ won't play the way we need them to (Sturridge, Origi, Moreno) and we need to address this. The squad is a good size but not all of them are a good fit for how we play.

10.) 08 Jan 2019 19:14:34
Based on last night's performance Moreno, Sturridge and Origi should have played their last game for LFC. I would rather the youngsters given the chance than play those 3 bafoons. I have never seen such a lack of effort from Sturridge, Moreno is just a terrible player, how he has got to such a high standard is beyond me. He makes Djimi Traore look good and Origi is just a headless chicken. The sooner those 3 are booted out the better.

11.) 08 Jan 2019 19:57:26
Ed025 no offence but we are top of the league. I like you a lot but I'm afraid to say our squad is rubbish is a regretful comment.

{Ed025's Note - your first team is great hessle and i would suggest even better than city,s, i never called them rubbish mate i called them weak and i stand by that, you may get away with it and win the league anyway...but if you get injuries to 1 or 2 key players it could easily go tits up as i dont think you have the quality of back up that the likes of city have, just an opinion of course..

12.) 08 Jan 2019 21:48:56
Completely agree ed025.

Our squad depth is on paper full. Yes we have a lot of players. But good squad depth is when a player can come in to replace a player and the team play a similar style, the way City have it setup they’ve got exactly that.

We take off mane or Salah we bring on someone with half the pace and not the same energy levels to press in Sturridge, Lallana or Origi. City take off sane or sterling and they bring on Mahrez pretty much the same type of player.

We are along way from having the squad depth to play the same style of play our first team play let alone level and that was clear to see on Monday.

{Ed025's Note - your right jordz, and thats what i have been trying to explain mate..

13.) 08 Jan 2019 23:59:05
Defo still need more signing for the bench. Players have to leave of course.

14.) 09 Jan 2019 00:21:08
I think you Ed, like a lot of other rival fans look at a game last night and try to use it to have a sly dig when you know the truth really.
Fact is our squad is very good. If you take out 10 of any teams best 11 and replace them with a mixture of squad players and development players they would struggle to beat a full strength premier league team away from home.
You are never going to have to play that many squad players and kids at the same time in a game that actually means something.
You might be missing 2 or 3 first team players at any one time and we have more than enough to cover that in most positions. Of course there are players that are world class that we’d miss like VVD, Alisson or Salah so if they were all missing at the same time we’d suffer but not anywhere near as badly as you’re trying to make out.
Wishful thinking on your part I’m afraid mate.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know why you think i would wish that bobby..

15.) 09 Jan 2019 14:38:55
Bit of Ed25 bashing here! He is right, look at Liverpool's last 2 season's they have shown they are capable of only challenging on 1 front, not 2 or 3. Last season - UCL was the focus. This season - the prem, and they've done very well at different times.

I'd say we have maybe 8 "top" players IMO (Salah, Mane, Bobby, Alisson, VVD, Robbo, Gini + Fabinho) 8 "good" players (Hendo, Gomez, TAA, Keita, Shaqiri, Milner, Ox, Lovren) . The rest are average, very young, or terrible (not naming any names! )

16 top/ good players (when all are fit) does not make a good squad!

The last two years have seen a great improvement, but still a long way to go. Squads are built not bought! (Unless you are City! )

16.) 09 Jan 2019 20:05:42
I hate the argument that if you lose your best 1 or 2 players you are not as strong. that is as obvious as saying snow is white.
If any team lost VVD or Salah or Allison they would be severely weakened.
Monday was stupidity not lack of depth. it was reserves it was a load of kids away at a strong PL Team. and they lost 2.1.
Klopp put 1 or 2 other in, we win.

{Ed002's Note - It is more a matter of refraction. Snow is actually not unliske sugar, a pale transluscent violet.}

17.) 09 Jan 2019 20:18:07
If we were honest the only position we have any decent cover is in midfield where we play 3 players, and have Henderson, Milner, Gini, Shaq, Fabinho, Keita, Lallana and Ox (when fit) .

Our goalkeeper cover is Mignolet so I will leave it at that.
Defence cover includes Matip, Lovren and Moreno
Forward cover Sturridge, Origi
I would even say Uniteds bench is often better than ours. Let alone City’s.

18.) 11 Jan 2019 06:07:53
Same as polar bears, their fleece isn't actually white, it just reflects the colors around them.




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22 Sep 2020 10:24:10
I have a question about Kylian Mbappe.

We continue to be linked with him for next summer (according to the Echo, I know! ) and from what little I have seen, he would be amazing as a replacement for one of our front 3, if one of them were to leave next year.

However, my question is about him as a player. He clearly has electric pace but does he have the other attributes to his game that mean he is a world class player even without the pace?

I remember all to recently a certain Mr Owen who, once niggling injuries had put paid to some of his pace, wasn't half the player he was in the late 90s and early 00s.

Does Mbappe have the all round game that justifies his world class tag? I've not seen enough of his games to comment so thought I'd ask you chaps.


1.) 22 Sep 2020 10:41:14
He's great player mate, fantastic in fact but is he world class? In my opinion no, he isn't. I've not seen every single game but I've seen enough to comment. Imo he seems lazy as hell in certain games he's completely invisible. He comes across to me as, if it's a big game he wants to make a name for himself, if it's an average game his heart isn't in it. What do I know? I may be reading him wrong but from what I have seen, that's my opinion of him.

Plus I don't like how his attitude is coming across recently, I thought he was better than that. He seems to of let things get to his head somewhat and that I really don't like, thinks he's made it already and all.

He would improve any team, I have no doubt about it but it'd take a good manager to keep him in check.

2.) 22 Sep 2020 11:18:22
Salah, he has “made it”. Look at what he’s won. That’s the career most players only dream of. Most people regard him as one of the top 5 players in world football.

3.) 22 Sep 2020 11:53:35
from the little i've seen of him, he is very very good. pace is a huge advantage sure, but i think he is special.

4.) 22 Sep 2020 13:41:05
Navy, define 'most people'? You mean the media because of his potential?

5.) 22 Sep 2020 14:28:30
Salah did you watch the world cup? Mbappe was world class in that I think most people would agree.

6.) 22 Sep 2020 14:38:10
I wonder what type of player he would be without his pace. Im not totally sold on him being the best player since Messi as a lot of the hype suggests. His speed and his finishing seem his best assets but Im not sure if he will be so highly rated if his hamstrings start going on him.

7.) 22 Sep 2020 15:45:53
He's a fabulous player. Fast, tricky, powerful, with a very clean strike off both feet. Liverpool would be lucky to have him but equally he'd be lucky to be at Liverpool.

8.) 22 Sep 2020 18:04:44
Mbappe is a special player but I believe unattainable for Liverpool unfortunately.

9.) 22 Sep 2020 18:47:52
Mbappe has been special since he was 14/ 15. City reportedly put in a 40m euro bid for him while he was at the Monaco academy. Need I say more?

As for him signing for LFC well, some are allowed to dream. I dream with my eyes open and it ain't happening.

10.) 22 Sep 2020 23:43:51
Mbappe is world class I would say according to 99% of people who have seen him play at least a few times. I think you are in the 1% here Salah.

11.) 23 Sep 2020 07:40:09
I'm happy to be he 1% Sean mate, I bet I'm also 1% of people who have actually watched him in games that aren't the world cup/ big games.

12.) 23 Sep 2020 12:22:35
Then you'll have seen more of him than me Salah. From what I've seen though, I do think he looks absolutely brilliant. Lightning fast, really powerful, skillful enough and decent finishing.

His pace and power being his biggest attributes, getting him chances others wouldn't.



13 Mar 2020 08:56:41
This is not just a 44 year old Liverpool fan praying for the best, hoping to replace his hazy memories of winning the league with new ones, but I really cannot see the league season just being abandoned.

A few things could happen, IMHO:

1) I do believe we will squeeze in at least one or two more games

2) The postponement of Euro 2020 is looking increasingly likely, which gives the option of finishing any games during June if needs be.

3) There are SO MANY ramifications, especially financial, to SO MANY clubs, that its really unlikely. There will be numerous legal challenges, not least from us and Leeds, should this happen. As someone else said, it makes zero sense to abandon this season just in order to protect 20/21.

I have seen an example of the Egyptian league being abandoned in light of the civil unrest 7-8 years ago, but that's a totally different kettle of fish - for a start the EPL and EFL are amongst the richest leagues in the world, and money does talk with these things.

Interestingly, the markets seem to be pricing in an element of risk. Sky Bet, which has had us at 1-1000 to win the league for the last few weeks (even after the Watford loss) have now 'only' got us at 1-250.

I know what I'm saying is said in a backdrop of hope as well as everything else, but I really can't see it happening.

A delay? Definitely

A postponement? Very likely

Abandoned? No chance!

I would appreciate any views that the Eds may have gleaned from their contacts within the league or clubs, I know there's a key meeting today.


1.) 13 Mar 2020 09:24:20
The postponement that is likely going to come today will push us closer to the peak months of Covid 19.the government are just starting the delay phase so May and June are likely to be worse not better. I was hoping they would start playing behind closed doors so we could get the league finished but I'm getting a bit nervous now.

2.) 13 Mar 2020 09:25:11
I looked through this post for any puns and I couldn't find any, this must be serious! And I don't think you are the only one hoping it doesn't get cancelled, I am almost 30, i would like memories of us winning it!

I think they will postpone for a couple of weeks, take stock, and then go from there. I know every rival fan is begging for the season to be cancelled but it makes no sense.

I would imagine the likes of Leicester and Sheff United would also like to see the league finished. Then Lower down your WBA and Leeds, plus those play off hopefuls.

If it was me, I would play the remainder behind closed doors, or into further notice. If it was viable I would push the current competitions i. e. fa cup into next season. As this would then free up dates in the calendar to condense next season. I would say try push the euro competitions back but that wouldn't be fair on team qualifying through league position this year. I have also heard that the european games may go to one legged ties to free up space.

After their meeting though I am sure this will all become a little clearer.

3.) 13 Mar 2020 09:47:04
Who cares about club finances etc? If one death can be prevented by cancelling all further games, is that not a better situation?

{Ed002's Note - Going back to the initial post, Liverpool could not make any legal challenge as there would be no basis for it. The Bundesliga proposal will also be discussed where if it were cancelled the top two sides would be added to the PL and then next season would be played with 22 sides with an addition two sides being relegated over the following two seasons.}

4.) 13 Mar 2020 12:58:52
Correct me if I'm wrong Ed but the bundesliga proposal also sees them handing next year's European places to the teams that are currently sat in the qualifying spots. If that is the case why would they not hand the title to Bayern as they are currently top.

{Ed002's Note - Because they haven’t won it.}



07 Jan 2020 15:30:42
Any interest from Liverpool in Danny Drinkwater?

Or are we happy with our reserve tea lady?


1.) 07 Jan 2020 21:13:44
Danny drinkwater? .

Fer me, no ;)

2.) 07 Jan 2020 22:55:56
Don’t you mean “Fer tea, no” Robbie 😉.

3.) 08 Jan 2020 05:33:45
Like it zed.

4.) 08 Jan 2020 17:35:14
The problem is Klopp doesn't drink much water!



25 Jul 2019 19:34:29
Would love to read a match review from anyone who caught the game against Sporting last night.

Especially keen to read how Van Den Berg looked - did he get any minutes with Virg or were the changes all at half time?

Also, how did the front 3 do? Is Gini an option to cover Mane or Salah during the season? Is the Ox looking like he is at least physically back to his best? How did Wilson look?

Getting excited about the start of the new season!


1.) 25 Jul 2019 20:54:30
Van Den Berg got about 8 minutes total and only had a few short passes, front 3 were only ok for me, Ox is missing a bit of timing and Gini looked the nest of all 3 for me.

2.) 26 Jul 2019 09:33:14
He didn't get long. Just a few minutes but was cheered every time he got the ball. That must have felt so good for such a young lad.

3.) 26 Jul 2019 09:40:26
Thanks Trent 😀.



07 Jun 2019
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Yeah baby! Wouldn't it be cheaper to just use post it notes as those numbers will be changing a lot over the next few years?!


1.) 07 Jun 2019 21:00:17
I have a plan. Take the 6 of the CL, turn upside down, to make a 19 of the league titles.

Take the 7 FA cups number and use for the 7th CL.

And use the 8 of the 18 leagues for our 8th FA cup win.

Sorted for the next year!

2.) 07 Jun 2019 21:22:25
Hanif, that’s just brilliant, you evil genius 😂.

3.) 07 Jun 2019 21:54:59
I think you need a hobby Hanif.

4.) 07 Jun 2019 22:05:01
Post of the day hhanif.

5.) 07 Jun 2019 23:51:52
People have too much free time . 😂.




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05 Aug 2020 11:23:16
Just to confirm 6Times, it was originally planned for Jul 21, then in Jan 20 it was moved forward to start Jan 21 due to the weather in Cameroon in the summer.

Then on 30 Jun 20 it was pushed back to an unconfirmed date in 2022 - likely again to be Jan/ Feb 22.




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03 Jul 2020 22:46:54
Mainly zero as Ben White is a Brighton player and is only on loan at Leeds for this season 😉.




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26 Jun 2020 15:45:10
Just to add to this, I was 14 when we last won it!

What a complete and utter relief!

Just before C.V. hit I thought to myself "how unlike Liverpool to get to the end of a competition with little or no drama, no 90th minute winner etc. We're walking this league and it should be all over in a week or two and then a gentle stroll for the rest of the season"!

Well, we shan't see a season like this again, regardless of the fact its been 30 years!




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11 Jun 2020 10:45:59
Let's not be hasty about Dembele. Klopp has long been an admirer and he could unlock the real player who lurks under the (current) sick note exterior.

Let's not forget that Gerrard had a lot of injury issues when he was a similar age too. I would personally be more worried about a player in their mid-late 20s having perpetual injury issues (any remember 'Sick Note' Andderton?! ) than one in their late teens/ early 20s.

Certainly a loan with an option (not an obligation) to buy would make a lot of sense. If the £100m+ player still lurks there, then it would be a good deal all round if the purchase price is agreed upon up front (which I presume it would be, Eds, in such a deal? )




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11 Jun 2020 10:42:06
No, no deal extension for Clyne, in fact he's currently training apart from the squad.





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04 Oct 2020 01:21:50
I too miss Ron.

NTW, Sandman, Ron Keague and Ken Aguero are the same person ;-)




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12 Aug 2020 19:58:58
Blimey, I forgot a lot of players! Keita (of course) and Mr Utility in Milner (who could also be 3rd choice keeper at a push! ) and Minamino.

Makes me think that someone else (maybe Magno) and Elliot is enough to cover Salah and Mane - we've got to give them kids a chance!

At a push, I wonder if Neco or Trent could take a wing?




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12 Aug 2020 15:32:35
I'd like us to raise enough from sales (including Matip perhaps) to buy a top level BD. Carlos is the name on everyone's lips, but perhaps, if Klopp sees something in Ben White, and we maintain a decent relationship with Brighton through Lallana going there (albeit not a proper transfer), then he could be the answer as he would likely be cheaper than Carlos and HG to boot.

In terms of the wide positions, I'd like to see if Harvey Elliot can get a little more time. I'm also interested in Magno (as opposed to Sarr) as he seems to have a lot of potential.

I would imagine we would need to raise around £60-£70m to afford the sale price of those two. I can see that coming from a combination of:

Matip (£20m? )
Origi (£20m? )
Wilson (£10m? )
and some other fringe players.

In terms of Thiago, I would hope that he would only be bought if we sold Gini. The price being discussed for Thiago doesn't seem that far off what we should receive for Gini so that should be "transfer fee" cost neutral (albeit I'm aware there's a load of other fees) .

We would then have:

GK - Allison (Adrian)
RB - Trent (Neco)
CB - VVD (Gomez)
CB - White (Phillips/ Fabinho)
LB - Robbo (Tsimi)
CM - Hendo (Ox)
CM - Fab (Grujic)
CM - Gini/ Thiago (Jones)
LW - Mane (Elliot)
CF - Bobby (Brewster)
RW - Salah (Magno)

As well as Neco, Elliot and Jones being given the opportunity as backup to the first team, I'd like to see Brewster work with Bobby and take the Origi role and Grujic being given the chance to deputise for Fab (as long as WP isn't an issue) .

That's my view, anyway, let's see how yours differs!




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27 Jul 2020 20:34:55
Totally agree Ra, and I'm also one of the ones who remembers pre-registration when you got the kids here every holiday - I joined in late 2013 during the year of almosts!




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01 Jul 2020 17:37:00
Thanks for the prompt, WYRed, just ordered the red one for me and the kids. A shame that the black one only seems to be available on Small and Medium at the mo as I really like the look of that one!