23 Oct 2022 07:53:13
What I found strange was the fact that the space for us was wide all game but salah played through the middle ? Klopp even said in his interview we kept trying to pass through the middle and losing the ball. So why not have salah out wide then? Where he could affect the game. I know he's been ineffective there this season so we changed formation but surely having seen what was going on we should have changed things at half time? I don't know what's happened to Fabinho but he looks a shadow of his former self. Without thiago we have no one who can take control in the middle. Injuries have ravaged us again but we should still be winning those games. Terrible error from Gomez again. Virigl should be scoring 2 from those chances. Whys Jones playing the whole game when he's just back from injury and was dithering on the ball the whole game? The press looked lethargic and off but maybe you can understand that given the 3 games in 6 days. Alisson was once again superb. what a keeper we have. Its part a quality and injuries thing but also a mentality thing because we played superb and with so much snap and energy against city and then we look like we can't be bothered for the 2nd half against West ham and the whole of the forest game. Its a frustrating time to be a red that's for sure. For once I'm actually looking forward to international football to give us all a break from tearing our hair out.

1.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:12:45
Klopp lost us the game with a very poor team selection IMHO.

Whilst I accept that TAA hasn't played well. Millie should have played midfield. Jones shouldn't be near the first team (poor man's Thiago - can keep the ball, but never releases it, dwells too long on it, doesn't get his head up, doesn't play anyone in) .

I might be open to the argument that the manager picks the team, but the team win the game. But even with the subs, Klopp should have swapped Jones for Millie.

2.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:21:57
I think the games coming thick and fast has not helped us mate. As you say injuries are ravaging the team and we are relying on players nursing recent injuries, prospects and old legs to play 3 games a week.
Yes we should be still beating forest but their result was earned the hard way, just like last weeks, when we beat City.

3.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:24:04
I said exactly the same thing. I personally think, he thinks the leagues gone and has one eye on CL qualification on Wednesday. I know we have injuries but there’s 4/ 5 days before we play again. Play your best 11. Too many passengers in this team. Jones simply is not good enough. Fabi looks like he’s wading through treacle, Salah out of position, Carvalho too lightweight. You know it’s a poor game when ya keeper is MOTM.

4.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:38:26
We unfortunately have injuries and Klopp is trying to rotate which he has too. If he plays Nunez and he pulls muscle/ hamstring then we lose him for far longer than one game. After saying that the team he played had enough to win the game no excuses
Up the pool.

5.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:38:33
Bob Paisley had a saying that players legs should go on another field.
Klopp is like shanks, he always kept his old players around like a bad smell.
I like everyone else thought that Klopp got it wrong in the Summer by insisting the Midfield was okay and we are being proven right.
I think Elliot Jones and Carvalho need time,

6.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:46:04
Of course injures have effected us but the truth is from August we have played 5 away league games and we’ve lost 3 and drawn 2 of them. Also throw into the hat the demolishing we had out in Napoli.

The only away game we have won this season was against Rangers.

Injuries have effected us but we can’t beat the champions at home one week and then hide behind excuses the others.

7.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 08:56:30
Some of the first team players and the subs aren’t good enough it’s as simple as that. We sold/ let go 3 strikers in the summer and signed 1 so we are short straight away. We tried to sign Tchouaméni in the summer so it’s obvious Klopp and the team know we needed midfield reinforcement and the money must have been there but we are told there’s no other midfielder that fits our system/ caliber apart from an last min injury prone Italian loan!

We are relying on old and ageing players or kids that are just not ready to grind out those hard wins. We never know who or how many injuries we are going to get in a season but what we do know is who is going to fill those gaps and am sorry but the likes of Jones, ox, keita, are just not good enough! Add to that is the clear drop off from the likes of VVD, fab, hendo, Salah, the player of the season by a mile is Allison which says it all really!

8.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 09:24:52
Longthing, let's not forget the standout forward of the season so far - Firmino. Without him and Allison, that 3 in the losses column would be bigger.

9.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 09:48:54
In fairness Bobby performed against Bournemouth
& Rangers. And bailed us out against Brighton and Everton.

Sod the super league, FSG need to get us in a league with just us, Bournemouth, Rangers and City. We seem to have the beating of those.

10.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 10:05:27
I agree Bobby has had a decent season so far. But why can’t he turn in an average performance against Forest? He hasn’t been over used this seasand yesterday he totally stunk the place out. He was a liability yesterday.

11.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 10:09:02
Klopps never been a tactician he just outworks opponents so when our work rate drops we lose. That’s what we are seeing now. So when you start talking about tactics and changing things it just simply will not happen.

12.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 10:11:47
I like Salah through the middle; though he was isolated yesterday; especially with Firmino being so poor.
The trouble is, when Salah goes in the middle, we have no width on the right especially with TAA not starting. Saying that, we had no width on the left either.
I also think Salah missed the physical presence of Nunez yesterday. Firmino and Carvalho can't do what he does.
We can't afford the injuries and the loss of form to experienced players that we have had. Can we afford to buy to rectify that? We'll have to but it mightn't happen in January.
I think we need lots of finger crossing for the rest of the season ?.

13.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 10:34:47
Salah has been ineffective for the majority of the year. He almost looked like he was coming back to life playing through the middle but that has most often been towards the end of games as opposed to starting when teams can zero in on him.

14.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 12:18:37
The injuries are becoming a HUGE issue to the pint if just picking players who can play rather than picking them based on any strategy whatsoever. I mean, we have only two fit strikers in Salah and Bobbie who actually plays deeper so essentially, we have ONE git striker in the squad yesterday. Anyone could have told you we would struggle to create chances. Forrest didn’t have to do that much cos well, they had only one striker to deal with. It was what it was.

No point beating a dead horse here. Thiago woke up ill the morning of the game. That’s just bad luck. We didn’t deserve to win that gale even tho, we had chances so we just have to take the L and love in to Ajax hoping we have some bodies back this week.

{Ed025's Note - that’s what you get oli when you don’t invest when your squad is very weak. Players who cry off with any excuse is not helping either mate…earache my arse..

15.) 23 Oct 2022
23 Oct 2022 13:03:45
Despite how many men we had missing, Man for man not a single member of Forrest’s starting 11 get into our starting 11 yesterday and we could add the bench to that as well.

99% of yesterdays squad will be required to go up against Ajax on wed.

On any given day any team can win a football match and yesterday we didn’t lose to a better team. Let’s stop making excuses for the team and players we love and call a spade a spade.

Away from home this season our so called superstar mentality monsters have been crap.

We can make every excuse under the sun for them but the buck stops with them and Klopp.