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17 Jun 2020 07:15:43
Morning eds1
Do you know was If there’s any injuries ahead of our game with Everton?

{Ed001's Note - Adrian, Salah and Robbo have knocks but are expected to be fit. Ox also looks like he could play after his ankle injury. That just leaves Shaq and Clyne as expected to miss out.}

1.) 17 Jun 2020 08:20:28
It’s been a while since we’ve had a team news update before a PL game Ed mate, very much missed. Let’s hope we get it done over the line soon as possible mate 😄.

{Ed001's Note - Arsenal can speed things up tonight with a result.}

2.) 17 Jun 2020 11:09:17
Pep is up to his usual mind games, moaning about how his players are not ready. If Arsenal is up to it, it should be one helluva game. We'll get a hint of what Arteta is capable of.

3.) 17 Jun 2020 10:29:04
If Arsenal draw with City I'll be amazed, but still, anything can happen!

4.) 17 Jun 2020 10:30:48
Thanks Ed, buzzing for the game on the weekend.
Must be frustrating for Shaq - is this an new injury do you know or one that’s been lingering?


{Ed001's Note - it occurred in February so not that new.}

5.) 17 Jun 2020 11:00:17
Yeah they could mate but can’t see it tbh can you?

{Ed001's Note - it is a strange world right now mate, anything could happen.}

6.) 17 Jun 2020 14:55:11
It’s interesting how Naby Keita constantly gets slated for picking up injuries and yet there is nowhere near the same level of abuse for Shaqiri despite the fact that Keita has played more games for Liverpool than Shaqiri.

7.) 17 Jun 2020 15:25:36
Thunderbird 2, that's probably down to cost of player and expectation of impact he would make.

8.) 17 Jun 2020 18:59:11
And to be fair to Shaqiri he did score a winning goal against Man U. So that puts a lot of credit in the bank.

9.) 17 Jun 2020 19:00:39
We all know shaq is gone, it almost feels like he has downed tools cos he is not a starter or a klopp favourite . On the other hand if he has genuinely been injured we don't need him we have players already that can't play ten games on the bounce .



28 Oct 2019 16:07:33
Hi Ed’s
Do you have any info about kesiktas wanting to cancel karius loan?

{Ed002's Note - There may be a possibility of it happening but it is complex.}

1.) 28 Oct 2019 20:31:41
I thought he was performing ok recently?

Or are there other reasons.

2.) 29 Oct 2019 08:08:40
The new Besiktas President has his own views on balancing the books and what shape success should take. What is the penalty to Besiktas for canceling the loan, Ed002, if they go through with it?

{Ed002's Note - Without seeing the contract I don't know - but rules are much stricter than they were.}



11 Jun 2019 18:14:21
Hi eds1
Is Danny Ings still joining Southampton after he’s loan is now finished?

{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware it was all done before the end of the season.}

1.) 11 Jun 2019 18:58:59
Was the fee already agreed before the loan eds1.

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

2.) 11 Jun 2019 19:42:45
I know people will disagree but i still think Origi should be joining him. don't think he's up to competing with the front 3 over a long season.

3.) 11 Jun 2019 19:59:02
Little Naby I agree. Not knocking the lad for how he finished the season but he’s not good enough.

4.) 11 Jun 2019 23:38:10
Cue the fume when we don't bring in a £70 million front man to sit on the bench and instead give Origi a new contract.

5.) 11 Jun 2019 23:54:25
Little Naby not sure what more you want from the guy he was excellent in the close season and earned his place in this squad. You won't get top drawer players happy to sit on the bench and frankly it causes more problems than good, look how many want to leave city!

6.) 12 Jun 2019 09:17:27
He wasnt excellent Never, what player were you watching? Peoples minds are being muddled by the fact he scored a couple of goals on our way to number 6,oh and let's not forget the derby goal my granny would have put away. There was a time i really wanted it to work out for Origi but he's not good enough. How many teams were beating down our door to sign him last summer and January? And this isn't about wanting a shiny new £70-80m player to replace him, i would honestly rather see an academy player like Woodburn or Camacho play ahead of him because at least one they they MIGHT be good enough.

7.) 12 Jun 2019 12:36:35
It isn't a long season to Origi - along season playing every game then yes! When asked to do a job, he's done as best as poss.

8.) 12 Jun 2019 14:19:31
If he gets a new contract and sticks around i'll support him as a Liverpool player. I just don't think he should get that contract and we should sell him now while his stock is at its highest. We should be at a stage now where we have better than Origi on the bench. he'd struggle to get in a matchday squad for most of the top half of the table teams.

9.) 12 Jun 2019 14:35:49
He's the only natural finisher out of our front three, that said, I wouldn't start him over Mane, Booby or Mo but he can offer something different if we rotate him.

10.) 12 Jun 2019 15:04:01
I like having Divock as an option.
I liked his performances on the left the few times he played there.
IF he stays it will be because the club see his utility and he thinks he can do it.
That's all you can ask for.

11.) 12 Jun 2019 16:14:20
Little Naby and Pegleg, could you please tell me how many teams were beating down Andy Robertson's door when we signed him? And how on earth are you able to determine that Origi's stock is at the highest right now, at 24 years of age and coming back into form and reckoning?
You guys epitomize the exact thing that's wrong with modern fans, but I'm particularly disgusted because this kid has done everything he's been asked and has just played a major, major part in maintaining our title pursuit last season and winning us our first trophy in almost a decade.
To justify your nonsense you suggest that it might just be better to play Camacho or Woodburn. ahead of Origi, because, as you implied, they might just be better! It is truly pathetic that you feel the only way to measure our progress or readiness to win major trophies is by having better players on the bench than Origi. There was a time Machedo won Manchester United the league; John O'Shea; Felipe Anderson; list goes on.
I don't think we deserve anything with "fans" like you! I see now why Ed002 loves Liverpool fans! Keep it up!

12.) 12 Jun 2019 16:52:44
Noski wind your neck in lad. No need to bite their heads off. If you disagree that's fine but chill out man. People are allowed to have different opinions to you.

13.) 12 Jun 2019 16:56:39
I don’t think Origi is up to the task really, but I don’t think Bobby is either. Before everybody shoots me down, if you took him out of our side last season and replaced him with peak Torres, Saurez or Fowler, we win the league, I have no doubts about that. I love Bobby, he’s a fantastic player but if everyone thinks back to before we signed him, he was an attacking midfield player, not a forward. I would love to see him move back into midfield. Everyone seems to think we need a “Fekir” type player to open defences and score goals from midfield, I think Bobby can do that no problem. Sign a world class out and out striker would be my preference.

14.) 12 Jun 2019 21:02:17
Noski i don't epitomise anything, im supporting LFC 30 years and usually hate criticising one of our players but the lad is not good enough. IN MY OPINION. if you think he is then fine but i know most L'pool suppoters i know agree with me. if we hadnt completed a miracle comeback against Barcelona there would be very little people on this site in favour of keeping Divock.

15.) 12 Jun 2019 21:49:03
We beat West Ham away 3-2 Divock scored
We beat Everton at home 1-0 Divock scored
We beat Barcelona at home 4-0 Divock scored
We beat Spurs in CL final 2-0 Divock scored
He played 673mins and scored 7 goals and has a goal average of 1 every 96mins in 2018/ 19
He will sit on the bench and wait his chance and doesn't sulk.
When we needed him this season he was there.
Jose Mourinho speaking on RT said after the CL final that players like Divock are like gold dust. Jurgen it seems wants to offer him a new contract and people on here want rid of him?
He cost Liverpool £8mil, would people prefer we sold him and spent £50mil for someone else to sit on the bench and disrupt the squad because he's not getting a game?

{Ed025's Note - sounds like a brilliant player polecat, so if he had of played more maybe you would have won the league?, does that mean that klopp picked the wrong team at times?...maybe jurgen is not as good as i thought mate..

16.) 13 Jun 2019 00:11:55
My neck has truly be wound in, Campbell. I'm waiting for your Campbocopter to deliver the flashiest signing yet! Clear all the deadwoods and splish and splash!

17.) 13 Jun 2019 01:04:45
Divock is worth his place anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and frankly wrong.

If Klopp sees him as good enough for the best team in europe then none of us are qualified to disagree.

18.) 12 Jun 2019 22:26:22
jurgens good enough to try and get rid last summer Ed025 but he wouldn't go to Wolves. For me if everyones fit he's not even 1st option off the bench i'd have Shaquiri on ahead of him, Ox too if he's on the bench.

{Ed025's Note - hes a different option i suppose naby, but if he does stay i cant see him starting many games mate..

19.) 13 Jun 2019 19:14:28

If Everton had a few players as good as him maybe they wouldn't have finished 43 points behind LFC?

{Ed025's Note - your right would have been 53, its yet another case of liverpool supporters over hyping one of their players, hes bench fodder and no more mate as next season will prove ( that is of course if they cant get shut of him)..

20.) 15 Jun 2019 09:01:21
I love what origi has done for us and his attitude has been great. His goals have all been instinctive which bobby lacks around the box. He's never one to grab a game and produce something out of nothing, all his goals have come from 6 yard tap ins apart from final.

I'd have no complaints if he stays. But I actually feel origi himself might want to leave. His latest quotes suggest he's deciding his next move. He's 24, another season of 700 minutes can't be what he wants.



02 Jan 2019 19:55:41
Hi eds
Is Solankes move to CP not going ahead now?

{Ed001's Note - for now yes.}

1.) 02 Jan 2019 20:23:48
Apparently, there are concerns over his fitness.
My opinion is that it may be difficult for him to go on loan because teams would need him to start playing immediately.
A permanent deal however may be different, because he may be afforded more time.
But that's just my opinion.

{Ed002's Note - That is not the issue - someone making unreasonable demands is.}

2.) 02 Jan 2019 20:54:07
Player looking for Guarantees no doubt then.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not the issue.}

3.) 02 Jan 2019 22:09:32
Probably us demanding an excessive loan fee or insisting Palace cover all his wages.

4.) 02 Jan 2019 22:11:55
Am dumping it’s the club’s demands of playing time and feed.

5.) 02 Jan 2019 22:46:32

6.) 03 Jan 2019 01:52:31
Maybe we are trying to get some sort of agreement about Bissaka.

7.) 03 Jan 2019 05:55:10
Havent seen it asked yet, so here goes. ed2 who is making the unreasonable demands and what are they?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant. He will go elsewhere.}

8.) 03 Jan 2019 15:19:52
Doesn't Solanke have a very demanding father that was also part of the problem @ Chelsea?

9.) 04 Jan 2019 00:33:05
Is it not about CP signing too many loan players this season?

10.) 04 Jan 2019 00:38:46
Like where?



25 Apr 2018 06:55:46
Hi eds. do you know when Lallana it due back. After the injury to the ox we need him ASAP. ?

{Ed001's Note - he is not expected back this season, unless we make the final in which case he could possibly make it. Not sure we 'need' him, good player as he is, we have not missed him at all this season and look better without him. He does not fit the way we play any more.}

1.) 25 Apr 2018 07:06:41
Ok thanks eds
Maybe time for him to move on then.

2.) 25 Apr 2018 07:46:10
I think we are all panicking over Midfield options ed mate. what's your thoughts? We have 3 fit options only now. Anyone from U21 or U23 that might be drafted in?

{Ed001's Note - maybe time to give Trent a run in his natural position?}

3.) 25 Apr 2018 08:14:07
Be a good chance against stoke at the weekend maybe and play Gomez at rb.

4.) 25 Apr 2018 08:19:41
Good shout Ed to be fair. Gomez back to RB. Hendo probably needs a rest? Can you think of any youngsters he might call on or should the 3 senior fit CMs be able to play all remaining games in your opinion?

{Ed001's Note - there is plenty of rest after next week's game. So they should be enough. If not maybe we could give Williams a chance, at 22 he needs to get a game or two just to see if he is capable of raising his game. You only know for sure when they get a go. Sometimes a kid can stand out a mile but then shrink mentally and fail miserably in the adult game. Other kids look average in youth football but they get a lucky break and suddenly grow as players to look like they belong there. It really shouldn't be an issue to cope for 4 games with the three we have and then they get two weeks to rest before the final (hopefully).}

5.) 25 Apr 2018 08:28:14
Just made a post on another thread saying the same ed, I think it is time to push him up to the midfield, let's see how he handles it, I think he'll do really well plus there's no better time then now.

6.) 25 Apr 2018 08:40:46
Cheers ed. You make so much sense. I would have far less stress and grey hairs if I could talk to you everytime I get a little flustered or concerned in life lol. Have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I would say that is the good thing about getting older that you get less flustered but me ma is blooming ancient and she still gets overly stressed about every little thing.}

7.) 25 Apr 2018 08:44:43
In terms of having enough in the tank it shouldn't be a problem Ed001. But we are also one errant kick from not having enough fit midfielders for the biggest game of the decade.

{Ed001's Note - then you give a youngster a chance and you never know you might unearth a future star. If we aren't going to give them a chance when injuries strike because of panicky fans we may as well scrap the academy altogether.}

8.) 25 Apr 2018 09:09:43
I’d like to see Hendo, Gini and Woodburn against Stoke and maybe Milner coming on last 30mins to rest Hendo for a bit.

We need TAA’s delivery from out wide against Stoke IMO.

9.) 25 Apr 2018 10:42:31
Fully agree ed001, but I'm dissapointed that we have to give them a chance now. I questioned at the time, and continue to question, why they are not as a rule present in every match day squad so they could have gotten some chances in a few of the 16 (yes that's right, 16) games this season where we have won by 3 or more goals? It does get annoying finding ourselves repeatedly unprepared for this.

{Ed001's Note - I expect the Prem will follow Serie A's lead and increase the number of subs available soon enough. Serie A did it because they wanted to help the Italian national side by giving youngsters more chances in the first team. Whether it would actually do that or not is arguable but it would certainly mean managers would have no excuse for not giving kids a chance. Though it would probably just see Guardiola demand another half billion to spend to fill the bench with expensive first team players....}

10.) 25 Apr 2018 13:07:47
Ed001 do you know has Jordan Williams been training with the 1st team? I know he played a bunch of games for Rochdale, but not since October and he hasn't been playing for the U23s. I'd imagine it's more likely Gini will play as the deep mid and one or two of Woodburn/ Jones/ Kane could get a start. I know they're younger but age doesn't seem to be a factor for Klopp if you're good enough.

{Ed001's Note - a lot of the young uns train with the first team and it swaps about, to get them used to being with the group.}

11.) 25 Apr 2018 20:54:55
Jordan Williams is currently on loan at Rochdale so I imagine he wouldn’t be an option unless recall was an option.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

12.) 26 Apr 2018 09:06:41
No Gordo, it was only a loan until January, but he suffered a knee injury at the end of October and hasn't kicked a football since.

13.) 26 Apr 2018 12:16:15
SGRED, I’d argue that Trent’s positioning would still find him out wide when playing RCM, just look at the positions Milner and the Ox take up throughout a game. Means he still gets to put in killer deliveries but also experience a game in midfield at the highest level. Also means if we play Gomez at RB that we can shift to a 3-4-3 when needed without having to bring an extra centre back on like we have been lately.
Cheers (3rd attempt at this post)

14.) 26 Apr 2018 12:17:51
Gordo - I believe his loan finished back in Jan. I just checked the Rochdale website and there is no mention of him (although they do have a Jordan Williams out on loan to Lincoln which threw me for a tick) . But he isn't injured AFAIK so Im guessing he needs to work harder to convince Critchley because he isn't getting into the U23 atm.




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18 Jan 2021 10:37:10
Morning eds1
Obviously we have a game midweek but if everyone come through that game fit what if anything would you change to play Man U this Sunday to get the win?

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't change much but swap Bobby for Taki and bring in Jones in place of Wijnaldum.}

1.) 18 Jan 2021 12:18:07
How long is Jota off Ed? Could do with dropping One of the front three and Klopp doesn’t fancy minamino clearly. Can’t keep this up, something has to change.

{Ed001's Note - couple of weeks at least.}

2.) 18 Jan 2021 12:23:16
Why jones for Gini ed? Cos of the fact he is leaving, or just u think jones is a better fit in midfield.

{Ed001's Note - because he actually tries to shoot. Wijnaldum is offering less and less by the game right now. He slows up our attacks, takes too many touches, stands watching when we have the ball in his area rather than offering an option. He was a passenger for most of the game yesterday.}

3.) 18 Jan 2021 12:46:49
Wijnaldums hesitancy to shoot is so frustrating. He obviously has it in his locker as we saw against Wolves so I just can't understand why he won't pull the trigger. Thiago had a few cracks yesterday too.

4.) 18 Jan 2021 13:03:00
Wijnaldum has always had dancing feet, frustrating to watch.

{Ed025's Note - strictly average.. :)

5.) 18 Jan 2021 13:10:05
When Wijnaldum plays for us he is like a Brazilian forward (Firmino) . When Wijnaldum plays for Holland he’s like a Brazilian forward (Ronaldo) . They must use different goals in international football.

6.) 18 Jan 2021 13:09:22
Agree ed001 the amount of time he got the taken from him yesterday by dawdling on the ball and allowing himself to get ganged up on, wasnt good to watch. by a so called Barcelona bound superstar. Have him.

7.) 18 Jan 2021 13:36:16
That's always a risk with a player becoming a free agent. They become a bit more conservative because exerting oneself too much or being too robust could end up in injury and there goes your move away.



16 Jan 2021 12:34:19
Hi eds1
Hope everything going ok over there mate.
What’s your quick assessment of Neto.

{Ed001's Note - quick, clinical finisher, dangerous running with the ball but lacks understanding with his teammates (which will come in time) and runs into the same spaces they are running into, terrible passer of the ball and tends to play with his head down a bit much. He is better against the packed defences we are usually facing than the rest of our front 3 but not so good as any of them in open play.}

1.) 16 Jan 2021 12:42:47
Sorry I misread that then as Jota!

2.) 16 Jan 2021 13:13:02
Neto is okay. But if your shopping cheap you need go Aldi instead, better quality.

3.) 16 Jan 2021 13:26:13
Terrible passer, interesting I will keep an eye out for that. I agree clinical and good at running with the ball.

4.) 16 Jan 2021 14:26:20
Jota is a terrible passer Mark 100%.

5.) 16 Jan 2021 17:41:49
He can't be a worse passer than Salah. Worse in the PL.



14 Jan 2021 11:02:51
You got to feel for Scott Parker. The prem drop a game on him 48 hours before kick off so all planned training, recovery changed. Then plays the game and gets slagging off from mourinho for fielding a strong team. what's the bloke supposed to do play the kids to make it easier for him!

1.) 14 Jan 2021 13:17:24
Parker was the one laughing in the end good result for them.

2.) 14 Jan 2021 17:46:59
Another stupid move from Mourinho. He does that a lot these days whether is winging up other teams or criticising his own players he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.
Talk about doing your opponents team talk for them! He did the same against us saying we have no injuries.
He thinks he’s clever but he just shoots hi self in foot!

3.) 14 Jan 2021 22:00:17
The better team drew.



10 Jan 2021 17:00:49
So Michael Oliver has admitted he made a mistake in not sending Pickford off after wiping VVD out only a few months late! An apology would be nice but can’t change the passed I suppose. Just hope if this happens again that the refs and var have learnt from it.

1.) 10 Jan 2021 18:26:23
OP, That whole game was a crap show from top to bottom from an officiating stand point. No wonder many fans thought it was a setup cos how is it possible for the whole officiating crew to screw up that badly and not even know the rules of the game, it seemed.

What made it worse was the PGMOL coming out and telling lies to cover their arsed even tho they knew no one would believe them. Had they just owned up to it, it would have been less painful to bear. As for the apology, not needed cos frankly, I’ve been over it for months now. As for learning from it, one can only hope cos they are still screwing things up.

2.) 10 Jan 2021 18:40:21
Get over it, it’s football. Some you win, some you loose.

{Ed025's Note - exactly pegleg, some will always look for excuses as to why their team is not performing, so they will go back in history to look for a reason even if its not a valid one, typical liverpool supporters im afraid, and one of the reasons they have this reputation mate..

3.) 10 Jan 2021 18:47:33
at least he admitted he made a mistake. most referees would double down. at least he's man enough to admit it.

4.) 10 Jan 2021 18:57:27
That's why in my opinion mr Oliver is still the best ref in the league a d by a country mile.

5.) 10 Jan 2021 20:33:11
It is probably ok that Oliver admitted something that we all know but at the same time lad's it won't effect the result and the game is over. So in all honesty lad's who cares.

6.) 10 Jan 2021 21:59:19
Bang on barry, not sure why he talked about it again its long been done and we all should have moved on by now.

7.) 10 Jan 2021 23:06:23
Pegleg, nowhere is anyone moaning about anything nor is anyone blaming anyone for our sticky patch nor did I look excuses for it.

We are just commenting on what Oliver said so calm down cos the last time I checked, NOBODY was appointed to tell people what they can or cannot comment on in this great forum. Pretty sure you weren’t.

8.) 11 Jan 2021 08:03:47
Everybody makes mistakes. Unfortunately for Oliver whatever he gets wrong is scrutinised to a pathetic level, abused and mocked into the bargain. He made a mistake, he admitted it, move on.

{Ed001's Note - that's all very well and good, but he could have admitted it at the time. He deliberately did not do so because then it could have led to an FA charge and been in his record as a black mark against his refereeing. Forget whether Oliver is at fault or not, there is a clear problem with the way the PGMOL are working with referees. They are putting undue pressure on them which means they are afraid to admit mistakes because it means they will be dropped from the big games and earn less.}

9.) 10 Jan 2021 19:05:38
Eds25 I would normally agree with your post but am not having this one mate! Am sure VVD will look back to history and wonder why he missed a year of football. And am not looking for excuses at all! like I said an apology would have nice but not expected what do want to happen is to learn from it so it doesn’t happen again.

{Ed025's Note - your looking at it as though pickford meant to do it longthing, it was not premeditated just an accident, he also apologised i believe so i dont know what else you want mate? maybe a local flogging or a few extra points? i think you need to get over yourselves..

10.) 10 Jan 2021 20:20:05
Ed25 that’s why we call you bitters. Always looking for a way to put Liverpool supporters down to make yourselves feel better.
I think you’ll find that all teams have their fair share of these types of supporters. Everton included. The typical Liverpool supporter as far as I can see is the type that supports the team through thick and thin and loves the club. Your bitterness might not let you admit it but it’s true.

{Ed025's Note - i dont always put your supporters down BP, i think you do that perfectly well yourselves mate, calling people bitter for telling the truth is just another facet of your smugness imo, but hey if you can live with that so can i..

11.) 10 Jan 2021 20:20:44
The original post was about an officiating error and that the ref Michael Oliver has admitted to getting it wrong on the day.

What’s that got to with making excuses about Liverpool’s current form?

He’s a Liverpool fan, talking about Liverpool on a Liverpool website.

{Ed025's Note - thats fair comment KR, i just dont want to down the road of blaming everton for liverpools dip in form again, it was not a conspiracy by everton and the officials to derail liverpools season mate and we seem to be going over old ground to suit some peoples agenda..

12.) 11 Jan 2021 00:30:53
Ed025 it is in the past now but for me that challenge on VVD is what is everything that is wrong with VAR it was an awful challenge and that Pickford never got a ban after it just shows what VAR normally does covers up for the refs mistakes. If Oliver had come out straight away and admitted then he would have got the ban but what makes it worse is they said it was not a sending off challenge and now the top ref in the country says it is. But if truth be told it was not Oliver that made the mistake it was the guy in the Var who could see the replay. I do think that the refs need to be vastly improved in this country.

{Ed025's Note - yes it was a poor challenge grino and i said at the time he should have walked, but this looking to play the blame game is getting beyond a joke and is causing nothing but grief between the two sets of supporters, let sleeping dogs lie and move on i say mate..

13.) 11 Jan 2021 06:43:19
I dunno Ed025, something tells me that if we had 2 players who are the best on the planet in the roles they play (VVD and Thiago), we probably would have a good clear gap at the top of the table. Both of them were taking out by horror tackles in one game and VVD certainly is a leader on and off the pitch.

{Ed025's Note - it happens in football john and injuries are just part of the game, but the inference that it was a deliberate ploy by everton and the officials is just not true mate..

14.) 11 Jan 2021 10:00:29
Ed025 I agree it’s past now Oliver coming out with that 3 months later help someone nothing my point was more against the officials rather than the challenge. I think if VAR was not here he would have got a ban after the game but because they messed up so badly they just backed up the officials what they seem to do far to much. It’s like VAR’s there’s just to back up very well paid officials. You could all so look at the sheff Utd villa game end of last season that goal was awful or the Man Utd pen against villa when Fernandes should have gone but VAR just backs up a terrible decision.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all agree that VAR is a joke grino, as you say the officials are using it as a crutch and the standards of refereeing are slipping as a result, it needs suspending until it is perfected for me, its costing teams points and that could result in costing teams their status in the top flight mate..

15.) 11 Jan 2021 10:43:09
Ed25, once again, no one blamed anyone for anything in the OP’s comments nor my comments. Neither of us even mentioned Pickford, VVD or anyone. Nor did either of us use this incident as an excuse for our sticky patch. You mentioned Pickford and VVD and drew those conclusions on your own do not sure why you are coming hot us, really?

Also, what was this interview supposed to accomplish? What was the goal? To apologise for Oliver’s mistakes 3 months after the fact when everyone already moved on? Why did he not apologise at the time if he had the courage he is being lauded for now? Don’t be fooled, my friend. IMO, all this was orchestrated by design.

IMO, this was a media stunt to rehabilitate Oliver’s battered reputation cos I can bet you a steak dinner that this was a pre-emptive move by him and his PGMOL handlers cos he will possibly be in charge of the Utd game on Sun. They know the pressure he will b under so this was a move to diffuse it a bit, IMO. I could b wrong.

{Ed025's Note - it just seems we are going over old ground oli, whats done is done and i dont want to play this blame game over and over again, we all know oliver got in wrong on the day but we have to move on mate..

16.) 11 Jan 2021 13:42:58
if Pickford had been sent off or not Virgil would still have been out for the season as the tackle still happened. The refs seem to be of substandard in all games really. VAR was supposed to look at clear and obvious errors to stop howlers but they have taken it to micro manage games. we are still in a pretty good position.

17.) 11 Jan 2021 14:59:49
Ed25, if you want us to no longer visit old ground and stuff, you should prolly focus your anger on those who clearly have not moved on from this incident cos they keep reminding us of it every chance they get. And by this, I mean the dreadful media, FA and Oliver himself.

Not one poster on here has mentioned this crap in months. We have moved on do much that we have been top of the table for a few weeks now.

But these guys keep bringing this stuff up and won’t let sleeping dogs lie. Maybe you should go after them instead coming at LFC fans who keep getting traumatised each time they bring it up cos that is the ONLY reason we speak about it. Cheers, mate.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that its fuelled by the media RM and your right on that score, i just dont want these pages spoiled by it coming up everytime there is an injury to a liverpool player mate, we have all moved on i hope my friend..

18.) 11 Jan 2021 17:19:03
Ed25 there was an injury to VVD in the Everton, but that could happen in any game, it's just so boring that some Liverpool fans are still going on about it, injuries is unfortunate part of the game.

{Ed025's Note - it really is MR and i thank you for seeing it like that, time to move on mate and let sleeping dogs lie..

19.) 11 Jan 2021 18:40:24
I really think that Oliver was the best ref last season, but he is not the same this time, maybe its VAR,
every ref has dropped a level to be fair .

20.) 11 Jan 2021 17:49:42
It’s the nature of the beast for the derby though Ed025 surely?
Everton fans used to sing about Jimmy Case for years after his horror tackle.
Can you imagine if Kenny or Ian Rush or someone had been put out for the season by a Toffee?
We’d still be singing and arguing about that 40 years later 🤣
It’s all part of the craic Ed.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid the craic at derby,s is a thing of the past juicer, these days your more likely to get a crack mate.. :)

21.) 11 Jan 2021 19:54:54
Or maybe Mighty Reds, the media are the ones going on and on about it and they are the ones that need to move on from this cos they seem to b the only ones reminding us of this incident every chance they get instead. No LFC poster on this forum talks about it anymore.



10 Jan 2021 09:19:44
I’ve just read that the forth and fifth round draws for the FA Cup will be made on Monday evening. This is to make scheduling easier. I do hope klopp takes this competition I bit more seriously this year.

1.) 11 Jan 2021 18:28:24
I would really like to see us winning the FA Cup again,
but as its been posted, the FA Cup is def not the same as it was a few years ago.
Klopp does not like it, and its hard to blame him,
when he sees liverpool, every year getting a tough draw,
while rest of the top six get weak teams,
anyway its a few days till the United game, so I am going to, based on past draws, a few maybe games picked out in the draws coming soon,
Man City V Bristol City, Man Utd V Blackpool,
Spurs V Plymouth, Chelsea V Wycombe Wanderes,
Liverpool V either Everton, Arsenal or Leicester,
one of the top London teams could get Luton Town .
just a bit of fun, while also keen on seeing who we don't get, while checking out who gets the weak teams,
by the way, I can't see us getting a good draw,
we used up our luck against Aston Villa kids .




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07 Jan 2021 09:55:47
The club is a business now and I’ve no doubt they will sell any player if needed to balance the books and I have no problem with this. Players want to leave all the time and won’t look back. Life moves on am afraid!



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01 Jan 2021 19:32:54
Thanks eds2. Can I ask how else is interested in Ben White and roughly how much would BHA want for him. Thanks again.

{Ed002's Note - Ben White (CB) an alternative to Pau Torres for Manchester United, but seen as expensive because of the "English premium". Spurs have sustained interest but the funding will go on other priorities. Brighton will look to hang on to him and would demand at least £50M.}



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12 Dec 2020 10:33:45
It is a knee ligament. So injured knee if it true!



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13 Nov 2020 17:05:50
People can catch it more than once Riomazy!



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15 Oct 2020 17:24:14
I had to read that twice then. I thought Bournemouth had just sign Juan Riquelme 😱😂😂.




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20 Jan 2021 08:43:27
Klopp is a one of the best managers around if not the best. But I also think it is ok to question some decisions he made and am sure klopp would be ok with that.



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19 Jan 2021 19:09:33
Is Ramos leaving then eds2?

{Ed002's Note - He is out of contract but RM want to extend. Eder Militao is leaving.}



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19 Jan 2021 16:53:21
It’s nice to know we are at least trying 👍🏻.



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18 Jan 2021 18:42:55
Am sorry but am very competitive and I want to win and win everything!



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18 Jan 2021 12:17:36
Eds1 can I ask what you thought about the ref in this game. Half time whistle was a shocker!
It feels like we are seeing a stubborn side of klopp that we’ve not seen before. I don’t know what’s going on with him at the min. We obviously trust him because he know best but it just seem like some glaring mistakes in not subbing players at the moment weather it be injury or poor play!

{Ed001's Note - the ref made a huge mistake there but we should have been better.}