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02 Jun 2025 08:46:37
How long do you give it till bayer are hacked right off of us lot trying to get it wirtz cheap as possible, dragging on a bit now. We know the price either pay it or move on.
Reckon those reports of us trying it on with that lad from Lyon are true, think we are struggling to make it happen at the price.
1.) 02 Jun 2025 08:57:55
Sorry I disagree, unless there is a release clause you can't pay the asking for every player going, you try to negotiate to get the best deal for all involved.
If the selling club are unmovable then you have a choice to pay up or move on.
2.) 02 Jun 2025 09:01:14
They're looking to include a player in the deal Mr Bean so it will take time. Have patience.
3.) 02 Jun 2025 09:02:19
It’s called a negotiation.
The numbers being bandied about are upwards to €150m, it’s not pocket change!
The club have to try and negotiate the best deal we can in terms of add-ons and payment terms.
Otherwise we won’t be able to sign anyone else this window.
4.) 02 Jun 2025 09:15:14
Mr Bean. how long do you reckon before we get hacked off with Bayer?
As has been said, this is a negotiation. All reports suggest that all 3 parties want to make it happen, and it's just a matter of finding a win-win-win.
5.) 02 Jun 2025 09:15:54
And how do you know it's not them moving the goalposts Mr Bean? We've see it before with clubs. Don't be so quick to always blame Liverpool! Man utd took over 2 weeks to finally conclude a deal for Cunha yesterday, who had a release clause! These things take time.
6.) 02 Jun 2025 09:18:46
As a follow up, Mr Bean, the oracle of all things transfers (tongue firmly in cheek! ) Mr Romano has said "My expectation has always been for a fast deal, not taking months or weeks".
I would assume that means days, not hours or minutes.
7.) 02 Jun 2025 09:19:21
Haven’t all the reports from so called on the money journalists been the clubs are talking about add ons etc nailing down how much.
8.) 02 Jun 2025 09:27:48
Some transfers will rumble on for the entire summer before being completed. Selling teams will have their valuation but they are not going to publicly say what that is. They will want to get as much out of the buying team as possible so the initial price quoted is likely to be higher that what they are willing to accept. Likewise, the buying club will have their value of the player but they will want to sign him as cheaply as possible so their initial offer is likely to be below what they are willing to pay. The 2 clubs will then negotiate until they hopefully agree on a price somewhere in the middle between the selling clubs initial asking price and the buying clubs initial offer. On top of that you have the payment structure. How much will be upfront, how many years it will be paid over, performance related payments. You can then complicate things further by the selling club potentially taking a player off the buying clubs hands as part of the deal (in this case Elliot and potentially Quansah from what I am reading) which means that the valuation back-and-forth process for valuing the player (s) would potentially be tripled. Then consider that this would potentially be a new British record transfer (and certainly a club record transfer) and you might want to ensure 100% that everything is right for all parties involved before you rush into it.
If it wasn't for the Club World Cup the transfer window wouldn't even open for another month. The window has been open for 1 day and we have already signed 1 player and it looks like we are close to signing 2 more and yet people are whinging about transfers dragging on. I genuinely can't get my head around it.
Obviously I would love for the club to complete and confirm it asap but can we please just stop all chill out a little and let those involved do their thing.
9.) 02 Jun 2025 09:48:17
We convince the best player on the summer market to join, anti-fsg types continue to milk the interim between that and conformation for all its worth. Get your punches in to Hughes while you still can, lads.
(Btw, have Bayer come out to say they are angry with us with haggling? Lot of mind readers on here TBF)
10.) 02 Jun 2025 10:08:59
It's all a smokescreen anyway Bean. John Henry is going to spend the £110m on ivory backscratchers instead of on the club.
FSG bad. FSG OUT!
11.) 02 Jun 2025 10:13:08
Time will tell. I love LFC aspiration to sign Witz but I hate the amount of money and human resources (fringe players) required.
12.) 02 Jun 2025 10:34:53
Everything is agreed, it's a cash deal only, no players are involved, Wirtz is incoming.
13.) 02 Jun 2025 10:45:00
I surprised the fsg out lot aren’t saying it’s a fake transfer and we don’t have the money as fsg don’t ever buy players over 50p.
14.) 02 Jun 2025 10:58:06
We are using the Caicedo money that never actually existed. I wonder if Bayer will notice ?.
15.) 02 Jun 2025 11:13:15
Ohhh cash deal so they an hide it from the tax man.
16.) 02 Jun 2025 13:03:42
@OP, how long do you think it will take ? always keen to get the angler’s point of view.
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22 Feb 2025 16:59:01
It does appear my negativity gets away from me with regards to Liverpool, Arsenal are just too rubbish to capitalise on our rubbishness at times haha.
07 Feb 2025 07:52:53
The level of professionalism vvd is showing if his contract is being allowed to run out by the club deserves tremendous respect in todays day and age no bitching and moaning and flirting around with other clubs (mo aswell)
This is what makes me believe that all is ok behind the scenes with these 2 (I hope)
On the other side it would be absolutely criminal to allow these 2 to leave, how on earth can the club justify that. Even if they want 3 years and the last year ends up being a bit iffy it would be worth it.
Where is the loyalty that vvd showed us to wait while at Southampton?
On another note I love Gakpo, took his goal superbly last night!
1.) 07 Feb 2025 08:24:19
Gakpo starts over Diaz for me, looks so relaxed just waiting at the back post.
2.) 07 Feb 2025 08:41:58
conversely, the club are showing tremendous respect by not putting any stories in the media or undue pressure on any of these guys.
all the convos are happening behind the scenes which is how it should be. It's stupid, but perhaps the net effect of this is that fans will assume that the club are doing the players the dirty. when in reality, we don't actually know. and that's how it should be.
3.) 07 Feb 2025 10:03:36
Agreed Mr Bean. I'd add TAA to the list as well. All three of them have been professional regarding theor own contract renewals with everything being done behind close doors.
4.) 07 Feb 2025 10:39:37
Indeed, Faithinworks. That is great from the club which is normal cos news does not come out of the club that they don't want out. I think Ben Jacobs said that LFC is the one club where it's radio silence and nothing gets out that they don't wan out.
So if the journos and ITK's are speculating, putting 2 and 2 to make 22 and neither the club nor the players are saying anything (Salah and VVD stopped talking a wile back while Trent ain't said a word from jump) and people are jumping all over them to run agendas, attack players, the owners and all that then, they would have done that on their own. That's their fault. Don't blame the club.
5.) 07 Feb 2025 16:22:40
Well the club will keep quiet as they are no doubt lowballing them.
6.) 07 Feb 2025 17:06:18
Mr Bean, you are the exact type of fan I was referring to.
7.) 07 Feb 2025 19:44:58
Not all our fans can be the greatest fans In the world Oli.
I think I speak on behalf of all the lesser fans.
Thank you for your Service ?.
8.) 08 Feb 2025 00:58:10
The latest rumour that VVD and Mo have agreed terms but are keeping schtum until the end of the season or until TAA has agreed terms is something that I’d like to believe. It makes sense in the current world of social media and it might account for them stopping throwing teasers when speaking to the media.
23 Jan 2025 10:11:14
Why is it that we are the only club that can't ever spend anything, this isn't knee jerk it's every bloody year. Can't even tie our players down to contracts.
The squad needs refreshing and help, we have been so close on so many seasons and fell short will they ever learn!
1.) 23 Jan 2025 10:40:31
It's because we are a shambolic, pathetic nonsense of a club.
Everyone else is looking up at us and laughing.
2.) 23 Jan 2025 10:50:29
so close? didn't realize we was second chasing top spot.
3.) 23 Jan 2025 11:00:26
We can spend. The lack of signings is not due to being able to spend.
4.) 23 Jan 2025 11:03:54
Cant be saying that mate. Apparently it doesn't matter because we are top of the league.
5.) 23 Jan 2025 11:12:50
Did you leave your teddy in the Mini Mr Bean.
6.) 23 Jan 2025 11:25:16
You want to speak to Arsenal fans Bean. Or Utd Fans or Newcastle fans and you’ll see it’s not just us.
Every fanbase wants signings that will improve the team as does every club but with everyone looking for them it’s quite hard to achieve.
We could always go back to the Bodgers days of signing Benteke, Ricky Lambert and Balotelli. That was fun.
7.) 23 Jan 2025 11:43:01
Some parts of OP's post is valid though. We can't seem to tie down the contracts even though we have deemed them to be a priority, and we have fallen away at the latter stages of the league too many times. I believe we hold the record for being top of the league at Christmas but still not winning the league. Signings would have been nice this season to address the gaps that are clear on the squad but we are far from being the only club who hasn't spent this window. We can only hope that we have enough in the tank to go the distance this season.
8.) 23 Jan 2025 12:10:10
We were too last year amd collapsed, in fact that’s happened a few times! Suggests squad depth to me. When salah vvd and Trent are gone we’ll see what you all say next year
9.) 23 Jan 2025 12:59:20
In the past when we have been top at Christmas (a completely nonsense statistic and arbitrary point of the season) there has often been multiple teams within a couple of points and potentially even with games in hand. We don't make a habit of late season collapse. Yes, we fell away last season but it isn't exactly a worrying trend. One of those seasons you are referring to we finished second on 97 points!
10.) 23 Jan 2025 13:17:23
Ideally 2 or 3 summer signings should set you right for The year. and Jan should only be for long term injury or Proper loss of form by frist team player.
We did not sign anyone of note other then cheisa.
11.) 23 Jan 2025 13:18:56
Continuing. we did not sign anyone for first team squad other then half cooked Chiesa.
That is where we missed a trick or 2.
Also Contract renewals. either the players are asking too much that club will not pay them. Or
The parties have decided to delay the announcement either way.
12.) 23 Jan 2025 16:18:06
I will ask again, who improves us who is available in this window? Let’s be very honest not many. We could do with a defensive midfielder who can cover Grav, but who do you go for in January? We could do with a left back but who do you get in January? I would rather wait and get the right player than spunk a load of cash just because everyone else is. As for the contracts I would think Robbie might be right. Once they have all agreed something either way we will know. Who’s to say we haven’t been working on these for months? No one knows what’s going on behind the scenes. I for one prefer it that way.
13.) 23 Jan 2025 17:15:04
CharliesGrummpyDad, I agree, January is hard to do business but City don't have an issue getting things done, they went and smashed it this window, why? because they needed to. We need to and what have we done? absoutely bugger all. We needed to do some deals last summer but again, nothing. What's the excuses going to be when/ if next summer is yet again another fail.
14.) 23 Jan 2025 17:30:44
Being top at Christmas is completely irrelevant, it’s the same with being top on October 4th or March 21st. The only time being top really matters is when the 38 league games are finished. Saying we were top on a random day 2 years ago has no bearing on the current squad or the way things are playing out now.
15.) 23 Jan 2025 18:13:45
Salah. how have city smashed it? They got a forward who will more than likely need a few months to get up to speed with prem, and £40 mill inexperienced def. From what I have read he isn’t physically ready for prem. so both look like signings they won’t see best of till next year. If they had got 2-3 midfielders then I would say they had smashed it.
16.) 23 Jan 2025 18:43:35
Salah, City are 12 points behind us having played a game more. They needed it a hell of a lot more than we did! And who’s to say the players they’ve signed will improve them? Doku didn’t, Savinho didn’t, Nunes, Grealish, Kovacic, Gundagon? All didn’t improve them. If anything their recent signings have taken them backwards.
You also say we needed signings in the summer but the league table would disagree with you.
I’m more than happy for us to wait for the right players. It’s what we’ve done since Klopp arrived and it’s served us extremely well.
17.) 23 Jan 2025 19:19:29
City might have signed a player but they still went 2-0 up last night and lost 4-2. What did that shiny new player do for them?
18.) 23 Jan 2025 20:48:13
Not sure how being top at Christmas is a nonsense statistic, can’t smart my head round that it’s the half way point (ish) means we start well then fall away if it needs explaining to you.
Also one of the only teams to keep doing it!
19.) 23 Jan 2025 21:37:29
Question for the "we need to spend" crowd, keep in mind we have made losses for two years in a row and so spending money could push us past psr regulations.
If it meant a points deduction would you still want to blast £100m and that new ?
20.) 23 Jan 2025 22:19:42
But we don’t keep doing it Mr Bean. We did it last year largely because we’d had injuries and brought the players back half fit.
Other than last year though our struggles have normally come in January before a really strong finish. But City have always been that one step ahead and they’ve always finished strong too.
I can’t recall any season other than last season when we’ve been ahead going into March and fallen away. Unless you want to go back 10 years to the Gerrard slip?
21.) 23 Jan 2025 23:22:44
Aye, City have smashed it and the new smashers haven't even played a game yet!
They're probably preparing for the future though.
22.) 23 Jan 2025 23:31:17
Whilst I’m thinking we do need a signing or two (like all teams really) and that the contracts should have been dealt with earlier I also think that we’re allowed to point at the league tables and say ‘but we must be doing something right’. Seems like some of us only allow negative thoughts.
30 May 2025 16:42:43
Is Alvarez on the list Ed?
{Ed001's Note - he was second choice, he doesn't want to come to England.}
17 May 2025 20:31:38
I don’t think if you want to move you care what happens behind you personally.
18 Mar 2025 07:07:41
Let me guess you’ve got that story from mr potato head on you tube, the absolute worst blurt about. Kid drives me mad.
24 Feb 2025 20:40:54
Say what you like about twitter flash i made a fortune off oxlade chamberlain coming to us after Chelsea had “agreed deal” haha.
02 Feb 2025 15:52:06
Haha jimble, I’m sure his hands are somewhat tied and he’ll get all the blame but still, it’s probably why Klopp would rather have no one over the years than make do.
17 Apr 2025 06:51:39
Be good to see what he can do at a club that buys the absolute best players around.
15 Mar 2025 08:03:13
Dream land …. We’ll be in transition next year.
12 Mar 2025 08:58:21
WY RED - I wouldn’t call pens a lottery when my 10 year old said if it goes pens we hit no chance and as soon as he seen Nunez said he’ll mess it up.
12 Mar 2025 06:52:52
Salah was 1 dimensional, Diaz was rubbish, not got a single striker worth a mention. Wonder where the moneys coming to replace them all.
Plus a left back and right back.
05 Mar 2025 07:51:19
Suarez up top without a shadow of a doubt.