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26 Jan 2016 17:46:18
Ed's Any idea how FSG measure the success or failure of the transfer committee? Surely they must at least be looking to change the line up, Or review scouting process?

Any business losing as much money as we do on transfers wouldn't just carry on regardless, The lack of footballing knowledge from our owners keeps me up at night,

Can't help but feel a DOF is badly needed but I wouldn't trust the owners to look at the right men.

{Ed001's Note - not a clue sorry.}

08 Dec 2015 16:41:09
Ed's and fellow reds, After selling a striker at a huge loss, due to him not fitting the style of our play Andy Carroll.

{Ed002's Note - It was nothing to do with the transfer committee nor Rodgers - try blaming Dalglish.}

1.) 08 Dec 2015 17:30:08
Ed why have you cut the rest of the text that went on to say why did the committee make the same mistake with Benteke?

{Ed002's Note - Because the people you need to blame were Dalglish and Comolli. There was no transfer committee - your phrase of "utterly useless" is about Dalglish - not about Roberts. There was no transfer committee at that time.}

2.) 08 Dec 2015 22:28:00
Carroll, only for his injury problems and having too much time on his hands due to these injuries could have been a great signing? thoughts?

3.) 08 Dec 2015 23:06:45
Looked the business at Newcastle, still stick by I was happy we bought him but very shocked at what happened after.

I still remember his 2 vs city and I thought he'd settled then.

He just seemed to lose any pace after we got him, he looked powerful and not quick but abit sharper at the toon bit such a donkey at our place. He wasn't even powerful in the air.

Remember his goal against us from about 40 yards out as well.

4.) 08 Dec 2015 23:24:29
Is that a wind up, Begball?

Carroll was an awful signing then, and worse now.

In ways, Carroll hindered Suarez' development early on, being forced to play with an immobile target man, leading to lazy crosses and long balls thrown into the box, neutralizing Suarez' skills and talents.

It took us turfing Carroll, changing our formation/approach, and bringing in some skilled attacking players like Sturridge/Coutinho, for Suarez to flourish and develop into a world beater.

People have been ripping Firmino, but I see Benteke similarly hindering his play. After being a monster at City, Firmino has been forced to start each subsequent game with Benteke. The entire team plays worse when Benteke starts, but Firmino especially, as he is effectively neutralized -- no outlets, no one to combine creative runs/passing.

5.) 09 Dec 2015 05:03:52
Carragher had some very pointed remarks to make about Carroll and his lack of effort both on the field and more particular in training. If true, then I can't see how Carroll could have ever been a success.

{Ed001's Note - Carroll is a drunken bum who should never have been bought.}

12 Sep 2015 20:56:56
ED's please give us some good news. How long do we have to go with BR at the helm? poor performance after poor performance, Dare I say it, but it's becoming quite embarrassing now,
Record loss to Stoke, West hams biggest win at Anfield, In the last 2 games against the mancs they didn't have to break a sweat to win, When was the last good performance, half a match against Arsenal?even going back to last season.
If I am bad and my job I will be told I need to improve, If I don't or can't that's it I'm gone. Will the owners need to pay him off? Can they honestly just sit back do nothing?

{Ed001's Note - I really don't expect them to act yet, though I have no idea why.}

1.) 12 Sep 2015 21:03:44
Rodgers should only be judged this season when he as all his players fit and his best team out.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? So a manager is now not expected to manage the resources at his disposal? Ridiculous suggestion. He should be judged on his pitiful tactics regardless of the fact that despite spending nearly 300m he still can't put out a team that has a clue what they are meant to do.}

2.) 12 Sep 2015 21:04:02
Last good performance was vs. Man City on the 1st of March, imo.

3.) 12 Sep 2015 21:07:34
Well ed1 as u say they never do what u want them to do so hopefully a bit of reverse pyschology there will make them act!

4.) 12 Sep 2015 21:16:52
Mighty Reds, another in the line of BR apologists who make senseless comments to defend the indefensible. Your BFF is a failure and he's proving that every time. That's a fact that can be proven easily. On the other hand, your comments have no basis in fact nor reality.

5.) 12 Sep 2015 21:18:39
Changing your manager is just trying a quick fix all the time that doesn't gurantee anything.

{Ed001's Note - so stick with crap because it might not be better when you change it? Makes no sense. May as well have stuck with Hodgson or Souness if that is your (lack of) thinking.}

6.) 12 Sep 2015 21:18:52
I am not a big fan of BR. His tactics for the season is simple. Play through the middle so he bought tonz of CM and tonz of ACM.
Its not easy to penetrate through the middle. He would realize it soon and change it.

7.) 12 Sep 2015 21:19:04
The end is approaching for the fraud masquerading as our manager. Top four squad, championship manager. Worst manager in my lifetime , including Souness , and even worse than Woy based on the money BR has squandered. Shameful.

8.) 12 Sep 2015 21:51:42
However you blame BR, Our Midfield today was poor. Lucas-Can-Milner could never control a team nor dictate the tempo. I am sorry but a new manager would first shuffle the three. We were 5 in the middle and yet couldn't dominate against a 2 men UTD without Morgan.

9.) 12 Sep 2015 21:42:34
There are rumurs FSG lost patience with our performances and results and are seriously considering having two reviews this summer or even take more extreme measures and extend BR's contract only for two years this time. They are waiting to hear from the third party they are getting advice from, aka Sir Alex Ferguson, before doing that though. They really respect his views about these matters. One thing is sure, there will not be a knee jerk reaction.

10.) 12 Sep 2015 21:58:41
Are you for real mighty reds, 3 seasons and 300m and we shouldn't look for a quick fix. You must be a unt fan hoping we keep him so we continue to fail.

11.) 12 Sep 2015 22:22:21
No I don't see the point of panic we are two points off fourth, I understand the anger today but any team without there captain, best player and one of the best strikers in the world would of struggled today, I am not a huge BR fan but he deserves more than 5 games this season,what I said was a change of manager guarantees nothing.

12.) 12 Sep 2015 22:57:49
Mighty Reds. That is the worst post ever. It deserves the most disagrees this site can muster. Fsg, respect this club and free it from the arrogance of Rodgers.

13.) 12 Sep 2015 23:16:54
No, but at least if there's a change then we might get to see encouraging signs like actually not playing our bad performers every week - Skrtel, Lovren, Mignolet (although I've no idea who replaces the GK).

14.) 13 Sep 2015 00:01:45
@ Mighty - No Premier League team can excuse that poor a performance based on being missing Henderson and Sturridge. If that's our level without them, our level with them won't be anywhere near good enough.

Have you watched us play this season? We've been dreadful every game. We're only two points off fourth, how nice. But if we keep playing like we have so far, in a month we'll be at least five or six points off fourth, and another month after that probably ten. And at least fifteen off by Christmas.

Performances have to improve soon, or else BR needs to collect his p45.

15.) 12 Sep 2015 23:35:45
Lads, go easy on Mighty Reds. You'll only hound him out and he'll just end up over on our page, spouting his keek.

16.) 12 Sep 2015 23:49:34
Mighty reds:
After 5 matches we are two points behind fourth place. The way we play is only going to make the gap increase. Rodgers deserves more than 5 games you say but the problem is that adding on last season the total is now 43 (League). This might not be a problem but for the fact that there is nothing in the team to encourage the fans. We have now conceded SIX goals in two matches but we will have the same 'defenders' for the next match. What really annoys me is that the fans know that things are not right but the owners (the people who can do something) don't appear to notice. I don't know why they are involved with LFC but it is also time for them to consider whether they are suitable and what they intend to get out of the club.

17.) 12 Sep 2015 23:51:35
Mighty Reds, you are parroting the same stuff the BR acolytes and "positive" fans said all last year until we went into free fall and got smashed by Stoke. BR deserves nothing and the owners stupidly keeping him changes nothing about it because for now, only they can tell you why they allowed this shambles to continue so stop spinning with the whole"let's stay positive" stuff. We are over it already. It's time for him to walk or we endure being the butt of all the jokes for another frustrating season. If you wanna stick with terrible perfs from a poor manager, have at it. But don't tell the rest of us not to disagree with you because based on what we are seeing, your argument has no leg to stand on as to why we should be patient with him

18.) 13 Sep 2015 00:49:47
What I said was that a change of manager guarantees nothing Redohio. The only time for a managerial change is in the summer, but without Coutinho,Henderson and Sturridge today was always going to be tough. We was unlucky in the second half we created the better chances, poor ref decision for there first goal, people are going nuts when we should be more patient.

19.) 13 Sep 2015 01:41:01
Mighty reds , a new manager does guarentee something a change from BR and his bad tactics what he does eason after season m he has had the money to buy the players for his system and he can't get it to work , that shows he does not have a clue , a new manager will change things for the better at 1st and then he will settle in , its a known fact when a new manager comes into a club the players all play better to impress the new man to keep their places , also a new manger will bring new ideads because the ideas of the manager we have now don't work , there is loads of things that will change with a new manage and that i guarentee

20.) 13 Sep 2015 02:56:31
I ran out of patience around November last year, Mighty Red. I can appreciate you seem to think Rodgers is the way forward, but honestly I think you have to be trolling at this point.

21.) 12 Sep 2015 23:29:02
Respected ED'01,

Hope you're in a good mood sir even after Ron and Mighty Red being a total pain in the backside.I just have a few question sir.Here it goes:-

1)How long will the owners put up with this dross??

2) You said that the site is monitored by LFC and many others of such kind,

Where do the information go sir??? To the owners or Ian or BR and his staff?

This is for Ron and Mighty Red,guys since we played them today,i'm going to enlighten you guys with something.

- (March 22nd 2015) LFC 1-2 UNITED

- ARSENAL 4-1 LFC

- BLACKBURN 0-1 LFC

- LFC 2-0 NEWCASTLE

- ASTON VILLA 2-1 LFC

- WEST BROM 0-0 LFC

- HULL 1-0 LFC

- LFC 2-1 QPR

- CHELSEA 1-1 LFC

- LFC 1-3 PALACE

- STOKE 6-1 LFC

- STOKE 0-1 LFC

- LFC 1-0 BOURNEMOUTH

- ARSENAL 0-0 LFC

- LFC 0-3 WEST HAM

- UNITED 3-1 LFC

W-5
D-3
L-8

*GOALS FOR -14 GOALS AGAINST - 26

* good OF -12

Now our wins came against a championship side(Blackburn),against a Newcastle team managed at that time by the self professed best manager in the PL John Carver,relegated QPR,fluke wins against Stoke and Bournemouth.

Two scoreless draws against West Brom and Arsenal.We didn't deserve both the results and especially should have lost to Arsenal.A 1-1 with Chelsea after they had already won the title.

Now to the losses,United outplayed us,Arsenal absolutely destroyed us at Emirates,embarrassed the club and it's fans against Villa,Palace and especially Stoke(worst loss in 50+years,in between we lost to relegated Hull City,coming to this season two embarrassing losses against West Ham(won after 52 years at Anfield) and United 3 times straight(conceded 8 and scored 1)

So in conclusion,I want both of you to reply to these facts and not my opinion.This continued for months now and will keep going until your hero BR is our manager.

I request to the ED to please post it if he can't reply as I have put lot of effort into this.Thanks for airing my frustration.

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - there is nothing wrong with Ron, I disagree with him on a lot of issues but there is nothing wrong with that. I don't know Mighty Red to find him a pain.
1. They will give him until Christmas, in my opinion, though it is just one man in charge, so it is very difficult to be sure. Mike Gordon might lose patience at any time and just say enough is enough, but I think he has made the decision to give Rodgers every possible chance to recover.
2. FSG employ people to look at sites like this and report back to them.}

22.) 13 Sep 2015 03:53:25
Wrong again, Mighty! Your post makes no sense. You say getting a new manager guarantees nothing. YOU THINK? Of course it guarantees no success but it sure guarantees that things need to change and that the club is trying to fix the issues there. So a change should not be made because it guarantees nothing, right? If that was so, why do coaches get fired all the time for poor results? Nonsense! You may not know this or do know but are taking the Mickey out of everyone or trolling, managing is a results business where you are paid to win games. That is your objective. If you're not doing that, why should you still b in a job? because you dress well, have a tan and have whitened teeth? It was a dreadful mistake to keep him and nothing will change that. No club in the top 4 would have kept him after last season especially after that shalacking at Stoke. Only FSG would have kept him for the same rubbish we are still seeing. The owners are solely responsible and if they won't act, then the fans should rise and take our club back from owners who lack ambition and a manager who is out of his depth. Isn't that how Roy got the sack when fans were chanting for him to be sacked?

10 Aug 2015 12:33:05
Perhaps I'm being too optimistic, but I was actually quite encouraged by our performance yesterday. I have said to anyone who'll listen, To challenge for the title you have to be able to set a team up to stop the opposition to some degree, You can't just go gung ho every game because you will come unstuck, change your game plan to suit your opponent.
If a boxer goes for the KO all the time and leaves his chin out to dry, sooner or later he's getting knocked out.
Did we just see a plan B from BR?, I hope so. Pretty sure we'll go into the Bournemouth game differently.

Also I find it hard to understand people saying Coutinho was playing badly before the goal? He looked the most likely all day, At least he was trying to create that spark we lacked going forward,
His game is very much risk or reward as he is so attack minded, so stands out a bit more when a few forward passes don't come off.

Would we prefer he trotted around playing safe little 5 yard passes side and back?

1.) 10 Aug 2015 12:42:16
He was nearly subbed for Ings had the gaol did not come. It should have been one of Henderson / Milner instead.

2.) 10 Aug 2015 13:32:22
There were a few encouraging signs, the defense at least looked organized at some points during the game, we still cannot defend crosses very well though. We didn't create many chances but for me that is a testament to Stoke who played well. But yes the defense at least kept a decent shape which I am very pleased with.

3.) 10 Aug 2015 13:50:14
Dave we won't be challenging for the title.
HowEver with the money spent again you would expect to. Rodgers says we are fighting for champions league place. Seems like the only manager to spend huge amounts and be acceptable to scrap for fourth

4.) 10 Aug 2015 14:40:26
Thats not the point.

We all know we have bad days but it seems as though half of our games now are 'bad days'.

What was it, like two shots on target? what's that about? In fact that's not even shocking bwcause we did it a lot last season.

Point is it wasnt just one of those 'bad days'. Those days where you try things and it just doesn't come off.

All it was was just really, really, really bad, and another sign that we still don't know what the hell we're doing. We didn't grind out a win, we got very bloody lucky and deserved nothing more than a draw.

5.) 10 Aug 2015 14:49:13
EG, Coutinho missed most of the pre-season. That's why he was the one who would make way.

6.) 10 Aug 2015 15:02:07
Big Al, That is ridiculous. You can't say we should be challenging for the title because we spend so much when everyone else has spent more, it's nonsensical.

7.) 10 Aug 2015 15:31:37
Who has spent more than us in the last two years. Don't talk about net spend either. We sold two players for big bucks and then let Rodgers buy a full team of players he wanted for a crazy amount of money. You give me 200 million and I will fight for the league.

8.) 10 Aug 2015 15:34:00
muscatred - Who spend more than us this summer? Only Man Utd. Also, who has spend more money over the past three years, since Rodgers has been in charge?

It is ridiculous to suggest that having spend over £300 million pounds, you still don't think it is fair to ask him to challenge for the title.

9.) 10 Aug 2015 15:36:17
Muscatred not many have spent more than Brendan has.

10.) 10 Aug 2015 16:11:29
I don't think they have spent more tho. Maybe on wages?

11.) 10 Aug 2015 16:11:42
Kizz

Well I agree but Countinho is the only one who could score a goal or produce a moment of magic.

12.) 10 Aug 2015 16:17:06
Woolback- we won when we didn't play our best. Therefore we did 'grind out a win'. If anything there was no luck at all because we've seen coutiniho do that several times and so definitely no fluke!!

13.) 10 Aug 2015 16:31:15
Whingers going to whinge

14.) 10 Aug 2015 17:03:07
Muscat

I am sorry but spurs spend next to nothing and played some good football against UTD.

15.) 10 Aug 2015 18:28:29
How many points have Spurs got?
How many goals have they scored?

I know what I'd rather have, a 1-0 win always beats a 1-0 defeat

16.) 10 Aug 2015 19:00:04
From Rodgers appointment (summer 2012) Liverpool have spent a lot, £292m in fact. That is outstripped by Utd (£344.6m) and Chelsea (£318.6m). City, surprisingly, have only spent £259m but they will overtake Rodgers before the end of the transfer window. Only Arsenal will go into into September with a lower spend than us £202m.

Right now you're all thinking 'But Muscatred, we've spent almost as much as them, we should be about as good as them by now!'. That's only correct when you forget the state of the teams three years ago. While those teams mentioned were all title challengers full of world class talent Rodgers inherited the worst Liverpool team in 50 years, if you don't believe me, fact check it.

17.) 10 Aug 2015 20:47:01
Big Al, I think you'll find that the majority of managers and owners would be perfectly happy with a top four finish given the financial rewards that are at stake. Look at Arsenal, no league title for a long time but they consistently get a top four spot and AWs job is never seriously questioned. I'd love to see Liverpool winning the title again but in the modern game, top four is considered an excellent second best.

25 Jul 2015 10:51:18
Why does BR not understand that to be a successful manager in the premier league you need a solid defence, and the ability to go away and play a defensive counter attack style from time to time, Mourinho can do it, and is multi title winner, United and Arsenal's successes came from a solid defensive base. You could drive a double decker bus through the middle of our defence?
And still no changes, I don't think Benteke will be BR's downfall, it will be his inability to set a team up other than to attack/press. STILL NO PLAN B?????

1.) 25 Jul 2015 11:11:07
Are you serious? Have u seen the strength of our bench? If we go into the season with a midfield 3 of can milner Henderson with coutinho firmino and benteke then we will have the likes of markovic, ibe, lallana, ings and sturridge will be in the mix when he's back. Ibe and markovic add pace. Are u seriously trying to suggest that benteke doesn't offer anything more than ings or sturridge? That he is a similar player? If things aren't going well bow we can easily switch to a more direct style, which benteke can play to perfectly. So don't say we don't have a "plan B" because we have a better backup plan than most of the other top teams

2.) 25 Jul 2015 11:38:30
Did you read my post??? You haven't mentioned the centre of defence once??? Benteke gives us variation in attack but what about our central defensive partnership?? Sakho our best defender is apparently interested in a move to Lazio, which leaves Skrtel and Loveren, They were all over the place at times last season and this has not been adressed. they were all over the place yesterday against a malaysian XI?

Are u seriously trying to suggest that benteke doesn't offer anything more than ings or sturridge?

Where did I say that?

Some think that we will need to change our style of play to suit Benteke which I agree with.

My point was about the defence and was quite clear so respond to that.

3.) 25 Jul 2015 11:59:52
Why do you have to sign players in order to improve the defence/team?

You don't.

Training, teamwork, tactics, coaching are the bedrock of a good defence - George Graham proved it many times.
Pre-season performances don't mean a lot either. Just wait until we've kicked a ball this season before you slate the manager/team/defence.

4.) 25 Jul 2015 12:12:26
jowens if i read dave above right, the post is about no plan B for defence. Most of us know there is a plan a,b,c to z for midfield/attack, read the posts , we argue over it all the time.

during pre-season (and it is only pre-season) our best centre half has played a minor role and scored a booming header. his replacement has been played in majority of games and has been poor (by many accounts) at either end.

at the moment is does look like we are short in DM and people will argue over Lucas/Can/Allen/A.N.Other. it is a priority position that needs sorting quickly, especially due to us conceding so many goals.

there are positives in the full back areas, clyne settling in, moreno getting sharper, joe gomez a revelation. negative probably wisdom getting next to zero chance so far.

put out any mix of our mid/forwards and we will score, maybe even for fun. which is exactly why it is vital that we get our defence solid. skyrtle and lovern are preferred by some, others prefer Sakho and Ilori. time will tell which pair are more solid.

5.) 25 Jul 2015 12:57:25
Skrtel was all over the shop a few times again last night and that won't change. There was a time where Lovren plays the offside and instead of Skrtel just stopping and let the guy run offside, he stupidly follows him and keeps him onside which led to a tame shot at goal. The guy is useless at communicating and anticipating runs. In the same game, instead of dropping off on a long ball to see where the bounce would go. He goes to win it rashly, the guy just bodies him off the ball and is thru on goal until Lovren comes in and saves the day. For an experienced defender, he defends like a schoolboy. I know semi pro defenders that defended better than him in my time. Trust me folks, if I can see that, you bet other coaches have seen that and they will target him all season.

6.) 25 Jul 2015 13:03:34
Ron

Graham was a very good coach in terms of setting up defences. But the first thing he did was get himself some raw material to work with. Dixon, Adams, Bould, Winterburn.

Coaching alone won't be enough to turn the centre back pairings Brenda will play into good defenders. It will make them less bad that's all.

7.) 25 Jul 2015 13:45:54
User013. Couldn't agree more. Firstly you need the raw materials to work with. Skrtel and lovren aren't it.Secondly brendan has demonstrated he is woefully inadequate to sort out our back line. Comparing him to George Graham is laughable.

8.) 25 Jul 2015 14:04:35
Ron, If BR even utters the word defence in any Training, teamwork, tactics, I will happily eat my underpants.

9.) 25 Jul 2015 14:52:11
ohio: and lovren communicates? you just don't like skrtel. no probs I don't like BR. Rafa never had these probs with him. if he would of won that header then what? Some players have NO heart BR buys them. Maybe not the best defender in the league but having to carry the can for poor tactics and players around him that should be further up the field!

10.) 25 Jul 2015 13:58:55
I said exactly the same mate but as ever on this site got called every name blah blah blah. Considering it's an online blog/forum whatever you're very rarely allowed an opinion and they are certainly not respected.
Personally I thought Inigo Martinez and Alderwielde would have been very good realistic targets, then take your pick from the remaining 4 as who stays. Opinion only but I would have gone sakho and Ilori, with Gomez able to slot in also.
I to an extent like skrtel, toure and wisdom but find them unnecessary to be honest when you consider who we could/should have brought in. I'm afraid I think nothing of lovren and the sooner he goes the better.
Dm wise I like Lucas, would have loved to see a Kondogbia type come in, big strong and powerful. However with Henderson and milner I believe Lucas will have a decent enough season.
All in all things desperately needed to change, I personally haven't seen enough during pre season to suggest that anything has. Pre season games mean a lot, especially with us playing nothing but first team players. Whatever they learn from the training ground should be getting used on the pitch, thus far it's an instant replay of the last 3 seasons.
Gonna say I really hope I'm wrong but a season of failure beckons I'm afraid.

11.) 25 Jul 2015 14:12:34
Red

Whet exactly BR has to do in the training ground to help our defenders? Why do we have assistant and coaches then?

Do you seriously want him to write on a piece of paper and give it to the players?

Jeeezzz

12.) 25 Jul 2015 15:10:15
Basically LFC heirarchy employed a manager without a CV that contained actually winning trophies, or even a winning percentage of games played.

I know every ( most at least ) managers have to learn their craft to become successful, very very few do it from anonymity, Rodgers has absolutely no record of success at every side he has managed.

Unfortunately, and sadly for all us die hard fans, and everyone connected to LFC, we will have to wait and endure at least another season of poor tactics, and no plan A, never mind a plan B.

13.) 25 Jul 2015 15:11:19
Didn't we bring in 3 new COACHES to our first team set up???! Seems fairly drastic to me. Just sayin.
None of our cb's are bad, none are fantastic either don't get me wrong. But with the right coaching, communication and set up, they can indeed become "good".

Natural

14.) 25 Jul 2015 15:32:48
Scouse, you are wrong. I don't dislike any player. Skrtel doesn't pick himself hence, BR is at fault, period. I don't care for either of them, really. Winning the header or not is not the point. It is the fact that he was badly positioned that is and has always been the prob. Is that so hard to fathom because I'm not the only one saying it? You say he's tough yet gets bullied by every big man he faces makes no sense. Saying that he never had a prob with Rafa's tactics shows how much you know about defensive systems. Now, Rafa plays a deep defensive system with two DM's just like Chelsea do because they have no pace to play the high line like Skrtel and Agger or Carra did not. BR wants to play the high line yet plays defenders like Skrtel or Lovren who don't communicate along with a GK who is woeful with the ball at his feet. How does that make any sense. Also, your thinking that Skrtel carries the can for BR and other players is laughable because he is the one who doesn't communicate hence, making his fellow defenders poor. I bet you if you put Ramos or Kompany next to him, he would make them look bad as well just like an equally poor Mangala makes him look useless at City. And to finish, if Skrtel was that good, how did he get benched for a semi retired Jaime Carra for the final three months of his final season? Care to answer that?

15.) 25 Jul 2015 15:45:39
You have hit the nail on the head The Natural. If you have the same defenders under Rafa he would find a way to concede less goals. It might be at the expense of being more gung ho or playing a more counter attacking style but we would concede less. Hopefully the new coaches might be able to instill some defensive ideas. Who knows!

16.) 25 Jul 2015 16:38:55
As I have always said about Rodgers his arrogance doesn't allow him to learn anything new.

17.) 25 Jul 2015 16:57:43
Just to turn it on its head. If Skrtel was that bad why has he played consistently under Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers? Are they all bad judges of a player. So Skrtel got left out for 3 months! doesn't every player lose form. The fact remains 4 managers have picked him regularly. Far better at picking a good player than me i would guess. Some on this forum might think they are better than the 4 managers.

18.) 25 Jul 2015 19:09:57
Let's be fact based.

Skrtel played 54 league matches out of 114 possible under Rafa. His highest total of league appearances in any of those seasons was 21.

In Rafa we trusted. He clearly didn't trust Skittles 100 percent. And that was 5 years ago anyway. And at that time has was the lesser partner to much more talented CB partners.

Neither Woy nor Kenny were around long enough to bring in other options so I'm not buying that anywhere.

As I've said before, Skittles' commitment to the club is beyond doubt and I'm grateful for all his efforts. But he's like a cow on ice and he is not the Rock on which any defence should be built.

19.) 25 Jul 2015 21:58:46
User
Between Roy and Kenny was 2 full seasons. It is more than enough.

20.) 25 Jul 2015 23:50:43
I don't think that he is useless or awful, i am just not sure he will ever succeed at the high press and i think someone else needs to be tried.i haven't seen enough of Ilori to have an opinion and i am not sold on Wisdom fully. Gomes looked great in the two games i watched down here and you can see a future but maybe not yet. Maybe start with Skirts and bleed in his replacement.

21.) 26 Jul 2015 19:42:40
You have just been debunked again, Scouse and your pathetic reason that Rafa and the others played him more just got shredded by User's stats. Face the facts, borough Skittles is a loser and poor and the fact that BR who is useless at coaching defence plays him all the time over better cbs only shows and confirms his incompetence in thesis area.

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08 Dec 2015 17:30:08
Ed why have you cut the rest of the text that went on to say why did the committee make the same mistake with Benteke?

{Ed002's Note - Because the people you need to blame were Dalglish and Comolli. There was no transfer committee - your phrase of "utterly useless" is about Dalglish - not about Roberts. There was no transfer committee at that time.}

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25 Jul 2015 14:04:35
Ron, If BR even utters the word defence in any Training, teamwork, tactics, I will happily eat my underpants.

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25 Jul 2015 11:38:30
Did you read my post??? You haven't mentioned the centre of defence once??? Benteke gives us variation in attack but what about our central defensive partnership?? Sakho our best defender is apparently interested in a move to Lazio, which leaves Skrtel and Loveren, They were all over the place at times last season and this has not been adressed. they were all over the place yesterday against a malaysian XI?

Are u seriously trying to suggest that benteke doesn't offer anything more than ings or sturridge?

Where did I say that?

Some think that we will need to change our style of play to suit Benteke which I agree with.

My point was about the defence and was quite clear so respond to that.

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03 Jul 2015 17:05:18
With all due respect Welsh scouse, I think a few older fans who are used to seeing us win titles (me included) are entitled to feel a little bit frustrated when we haven't won the league for 25 yrs, in the mid 80's early 90's we still had a reputation as being amazing supporters, but it is difficult to see many negatives when you have a team working their socks off and winning everything, That said if a player had a poor game or didn't give there all, They were told, some sections of the crowd used to give Sammy Lee, Whelan and ablett lots of stick, but they would come back stronger the following week. The club,players and fans had high standards.
The modern footballer must love going into a stadium were you can hear a pin drop, playing badly and still picking up his 50k a week. and walking off to a chorus of YNWA.
Maybe it's difficult for some supporters to comprehend that we are a top/mid table club, but some fans don't know any difference.
Having an opinion and voicing it because you want the best for your club is far more positive than paying money into the club by sitting in a seat, smiling quietly win lose or draw. and staying positive while the club spews money down the toilet in the transfer market, and then slagging people of for having a different view. that's Neglect.

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13 Apr 2015 11:09:30
Barry Venison doessn't happen to live in Louth does he?