04 Sep 2026 09:45:27
Thankfully Endo and Chiesa left out of Champions League squad. Players who don't have the desire to play regularly shouldn't be rewarded by being in competition and match day squads.
Both players gave it a fair shot trying to get a first team spot but haven't been good enough unfortunately. Don't really understand why they didn't push for a move as other teams are interested and I can see both of them getting starting spots in an Italian or German team.
Best of luck to both but to be a successful club we can't hold onto players like these.
Pity Tsimikas wasn't left out as well as the guy just seems to be hanging on so he can leave on a free. Surely has to be moved on in January or even his contract paid out early. Wasn't good enough under Klopp so I can't understand why he's still here.
04 Sep 2026 09:53:58
Endo has recently come back from a big injury, especially for his age. He's Japan's captain, so can't be that bad a player and was trusted by Jurgen. He's got one year left of his deal, so can help when needed. Chiesa, the club should have let go. They had loan deals and even to buy, but only a small fee, so they decided no.
04 Sep 2026 09:56:28
They are both in the squad for the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup.
The Champions League just has slightly stricter rules.
04 Sep 2026 09:58:09
Now why would we leave our left back cover out of the squad... Who was it that was going to take the place?
Tsimikas is not running down his contract for a free move, he loves Liverpool and has never wanted to leave.
04 Sep 2026 09:58:40
I wouldn’t say they don’t have the desire, just not good enough. You make it sound as if they are freeloading, which in reality I’m pretty sure they would certainly want to play and be involved. Like I said, just not good enough.
04 Sep 2026 10:51:23
Tsimikas is a good player, ok, he lacks a yard in pace, but his all round play is good, his positional play in attack mode is much better than Kerkez. And he can cross a ball! I don't really get the hate words against him.
In the same way I didn't really get the past rhetoric with Gakpo, much of which I suspect has had him questioning whether he wants to stay at the club.
He is our best chance of scoring a goal these days. It was interesting to see the love for him when there was a chance he might leave and what that would mean to our frontline. Peace!
04 Sep 2026 11:03:39
All 4 not good enough. Why do people accept mediocrity? Every single one of those players you’ve named has had ample opportunities and been found unable to consistently reach the required standard. Ship all 4 in January.
04 Sep 2026 11:50:35
"Players who don't have the desire to play regularly shouldn't be rewarded by being in competition and match day squads.".
Sorry @Mayo, but this is nonsense and potentially character assassination. You may not rate them as players and that's okay but for you to go from there to then, make the above quote is bang out of order.
How many times has Endo played his heart out for LFC to the point of playing the game of his life in that EFL final at Wembley while carrying a knock and bodying Caicedo, all at the same time.
And Chiesa when he has played has always show fight, desire and eagerness to do well despite almost never getting starts. Pathetic.
04 Sep 2026 11:55:09
Oh and Viva Redspana, I fully agree with all you said about Tsimikas.
Oh, and let's not forget that the Gakpo family suffered a huge tragedy, losing their child, which is a more than harrowing experience and one I personally can relate to cos my sister lost her son, as well.
It almost never gets better.
So considering the above, in addition to all the (unwanted) hate he was getting, maybe Cody was thinking of going somewhere else as a life decision for him and his fam, not just about football.
04 Sep 2026 13:36:49
Why keep a left back who is very poor defensively? His crosses are hit and miss so I wouldn’t be keeping him around for that. If Kerkez doesn’t improve this season then serious thought will have to be given to replacing him next summer. I don’t get why some people are happy to keep certain players just to sit on the bench and contribute very little towards the team. They always get chances in cup games and never stand out enough to put them in contention to regularly start in Premier League games.
If the backup player isn’t pushing the starting players week in, week out, then they shouldn’t be in the squad.
Give that game time to younger players to gain experience.
Luke Chambers and Luke Stephenson both should be given more chances, but unfortunately Stephenson was loaned out. I’m looking forward to seeing McConnell getting a chance.
If you did your research @Olired you would have seen Endo was involved in preseason and was told he could find another club along with Chiesa. Andoni must have seen enough of both to let them know they’re not in his future plans.
Gakpo has shown on plenty of occasions his importance to the team. He’s rarely injured and started the season very well. The other 3 have not, so I don’t know why he was mentioned.
04 Sep 2026 15:08:23
Mayo, that Endo was asked to leave does not automatically mean he lacks the desire to play for us. That was the part of your comment that I addressed as pathetic. End of.
04 Sep 2026 15:52:25
Olired, so sitting on the bench and playing the odd cup games with a few minutes here and there in the Premier League shows desire to you? Give your head a wobble mate.
He's plenty good enough to start for a club in Germany, Italy, France and Spain.
He's not good enough to be a starter or on the Liverpool bench. Of he was told to stay and fight for his place fair enough but it's a red flag not wanting to leave when told he won't play much of a part.
We're pretty much turning into Man United by holding on to players not good enough and not being able to sell. 3/4 players that wouldn't move on cost us a big chance to strengthen the squad this summer.
City sold Reinders and Gonzalez to improve and compete for trophies while we hold onto a player that you said 'bodied Caicedo' in one game 3 years ago ?