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10 Nov 2020 14:54:18
Congratulations to Rhys Williams who has been recognised now as a First Team Squad member and officially listed on the club website as No.46.

What an impact he has had. Can't wait to see how he progresses this season.


1.) 10 Nov 2020 16:54:57
I’ve always had a hope that he’d return and prove that he has what it takes to play, since I used to watch him at U18 level there was a level of talent and determination you’d want to see from a young player.

Think the lower league stint has done him a world of good, he’s grown up both on and off the pitch, easy to forget he’s only 19!

Hopefully can kick on and push for that 4th CB role.


2.) 11 Nov 2020 12:02:38
Well deserved, always good to see graduates from the academy roped in.


3.) 11 Nov 2020 14:53:08
He’ll be getting even more games if these Gomez getting a serious injury on international duty are true.


4.) 12 Nov 2020 21:28:54
Great news. Homemade, homegrown talent (and whatever else they call it) always feels different, and certainly special, in comparison to going out there and buying talent from the market (even though that too is necessary.


 

 

06 Oct 2020 08:49:44
Ed002, just a quick question regarding our squad and what happens now. I've run through the official website and we have 34 players with allocated first team squad numbers. 9 of them are u21 so don't taje up a squad space. However 18 are non-HG and only 7 are HG. Of that 7 i can only see Wilson, Kelleher and maybe Phillips or Gomez (? ) who might count as club trained. Milner, Henderson and Ox certainly don't.

Surely this means one of the 18 non-HG players cannot be registered. Are all transfer windows shut now, or could we see Grujic or Shaqiri move to somewhere like Russia or China?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, I have explained this all summer. Gomez is not club trained. The CL squad will be limited to 24 with one Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, James Milner, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson or Nathanial Phillips dropping out.

Players can move to anywhere the transfer window remains open - Netherlands, Portugal, Russia etc..}


1.) 06 Oct 2020 10:52:12
Shaq won't be going anywhere now.
He's tested positive for C.V..


2.) 06 Oct 2020 12:59:54
Thanks Ed002. Wild suggestion/ question incoming. Could we register Shaqiri in the FA Cup and Champions League squad (but not Grujic), and then register Grujic in the Premier League squad (but not Shaqiri)? Purely hypothetical. I was just wondering if we will have a very upset player sat in the u23's if we can't sell/ loan one of them in time.

{Ed002's Note - You can register different players for the CL and for the PL.}


3.) 06 Oct 2020 18:07:19
Hi hope Shaq gets to play more for Liverpool i think he offers us more if played in the correct position thru the middle.

{Ed025's Note - he is in his best position rax...on the bench..


4.) 06 Oct 2020 18:18:19
A bubble shaped bench. Or a bench shaped bubble.


5.) 07 Oct 2020 05:31:27
He would walk into Everton’s team any day of the week Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - come on hughes,y get a grip, hes on a par with theo walcott who we have just binned, some of you reds do make me laugh, you think all your players are "world class" when in truth besides your first team you are harbouring a shedload of crap!, if he was any good he would be replacing vanilla firmino mate but he cant even get a game in your carabao cup team who were embarrassed by arsenal reserves last week ffs, please lay off the drugs or get treatment for delusions of grandeur friend..


6.) 07 Oct 2020 08:50:00
I wouldn’t agree with that Ed, he was not picked due to potential transfers away from the club, and we weren’t embarrassed by and arsenal team.

{Ed025's Note - thats my whole point SR, the reds are trying to get shut of him as he is dutch elm and surplus to requirement mate, the remark about arsenal was just a reposte in defence of remarks that he walks into the everton team when clearly thats not true, sometimes i should not bite..


7.) 07 Oct 2020 11:49:31
fair enough haha, i can see why you might get frustrated with those comments.

Everton midfield is looking decent, Shaq wouldn't get into that team currently, previously i would argue he could but not anymore!

i think the likes of wolves, arsenal and united should be worried about you competing for the top 4, you might run out of steam at some point but you have a world class manager at the helm and going to give all the big teams a run for their money!

hopefully will FINALLY make the derby's interesting again haha.

{Ed025's Note - yeah lets hope so SR mate..


 

 

18 Jul 2018 12:03:09
Not a rumour from anybody with any inside knowledge, but an Italian Engineer I work with says the general consensus in Italy is that the Alisson deal's done, and he personally reckons that his team (AC Milan) will sell Donarumma to Roma as the replacement. He's just a random Italian dude so take it with a pinch of salt. The Italian equivalent of "Keith down the local says so and so" 😂.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 12:33:57
Allisson bid accepted. £66.8m.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 12:52:12
Sergio down the pizzeria said so MK.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 13:31:46
It was more like "Lorenzo down at the Colloseum said-"


4.) 18 Jul 2018 13:39:02
Lorenzo IS Sergio's cousin and the name of the pizzeria IS The Colloseum, so I was right Adam😜.


 

 

10 Jul 2018 08:47:42
Not my rumours, just things I've read this morning.

Taiwo Awoniyi signs a new 5 year deal and and then joins Monaco on loan for 2 years?

Liverpool have contacted Juventus regarding Marko Pjaca and been quoted a price.


1.) 10 Jul 2018 09:00:26
Strange one about Taiwo, not sure how his development will go there. Will he even make the bench? All the best to him and hope it works out and we get a cracking player back. Cheers mk.


2.) 10 Jul 2018 09:29:38
Interesting one for Taiwo, thanks Adam, I think I read the same article earlier!

Makes absolute sense to me. Looks like Brewster is the one who's going to make the step up from the U-23s to the first team squad this season, and Solanke is pretty raw into the first team too.

Nice to give Taiwo a bit of stability and an opportunity to establish himself at a team that is at least Europa league level.

This may have formed part of the Fabinho negotiations as well.


3.) 10 Jul 2018 12:00:34
Eds or anyone that has seen Taiwo Awoniyi play.

Is this guy any good? Will this guy have a future with Liverpool or should we expect that he will be off soon.


I'm usually pretty good at keeping up with youth players but I have no idea what this guy is like as a player.


4.) 10 Jul 2018 12:56:41
Whilst i would be ecstatic about this happening i think the step up to be playing regularly for Monaco is too great a jump.

From what i read it was more the case he was going to remain in belgium but for one of the top teams e. g. Anderlecht. meaning he would be involved in europe.


5.) 10 Jul 2018 13:45:50
Taiwo Awoniyi must be very well thought of.

Im with george t on this one

Anyone seen him play enough to give an assessment on his potential?


6.) 10 Jul 2018 13:49:02
Monaco seems like a strange place for him to go, alright. The quickest way for him to get a work permit is to get into the Nigeria squad, and he'll have to be playing regularly to do that.

As for his playing style, think of Heskey but with more pace and better striking of the ball. The kid has a looooooooooooot of developing to do, though. He was only starting to finally find some consistency of performance last season, and will need to be starting games regularly to continue that.

So yeah TSR, it would make a LOT more sense for him to go to Brugge, Anderlecht, Liège, Gent or Genk. But of course, if he does end up at Monaco, I'll hope he becomes a roaring success and takes Falcao's place etc etc.


7.) 10 Jul 2018 15:49:44
Literally never seen him play aside from YouTube. I always forget about him every season!


 

 

02 Jun 2018 13:40:11
Looks like Jack Butland is happening lads. Bookies have seen a huge spike in bets this morning. Someone knows something I reckon, and Macca has backed this move to happen since day one.


1.) 02 Jun 2018 14:13:50
Such a shame, not good enough, never will be.


2.) 02 Jun 2018 14:14:32
Poor choice imo. He he a flapper.


3.) 02 Jun 2018 14:27:32
Christ lads. With fans like you around, who needs enemies .


4.) 02 Jun 2018 14:29:34
Remember the last Keeper we signed after he got relegated?
Me neither.


5.) 02 Jun 2018 14:53:29
Piss poor if you ask me. A position that require a top class performer and we go for a bottom half keeper again.


6.) 02 Jun 2018 14:57:06
Not good enough just like Robertson. Trust in Klopp - he doesn’t get transfers wrong.


7.) 02 Jun 2018 15:03:27
In Klopp we trust. Din everybody groan and sigh when we sign Mane? Butland in hands of Klopp will be a De Gea.


8.) 02 Jun 2018 15:11:38
False equivalency comparing a dodgy keeper with an under rated left back. The flaws in Butlands game are easily exposed and will be time and again. We may as well stick with Karius as he is not a better keeper by any stretch. He has looked shaky AF all season.


9.) 02 Jun 2018 15:13:40
Hope not he’s last choice I’d want. got to be oblak Allison imo.


10.) 02 Jun 2018 15:15:23
L. C Karius in the hands of Klopp needs I say more

It is pointless us sending big money on all different position in the team with a 2nd rate keeper standing behind them. I think we need a top keeper to mount a serious challenge which we haven't had in a long long time.


11.) 02 Jun 2018 15:19:30
Remember a few seasons ago I think the bookies even suspended betting on Ribery joining us. Means nothing.


12.) 02 Jun 2018 15:24:39
I don't put much faith in what bookies say, they are simply out to make money for their companies, however if it's Butland, it's Butland that comes and so be it. If it's true then be prepared for endless days of whinging and whining about it.


13.) 02 Jun 2018 15:34:17
If it's Butland let's give the lad a chance.
And I very much doubt he'll be coming as second choice goalkeeper.


14.) 02 Jun 2018 15:39:07
We don't need a keeper. Kieta mane salah Bobby and the ox running at teams. Just win 8-5 every week.


15.) 02 Jun 2018 15:39:31
If it’s Butland that comes then it’s just more of the same. He’s nowhere near a top class keeper as he’s shown.


16.) 02 Jun 2018 15:48:05
Is that ‘give the lad a chance until he drops an absolute howler in an important match’? You cannot tell me he’s a significant improvement on either of Mignolet or Karius.


17.) 02 Jun 2018 16:15:29
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. its also not moaning and every one of us would get behind him if we sign him. doesn't escape the fact as a goalkeeper he is no better than what we have. And saying Klopp will make him better? How? don't believe Klopp coaches GKs!?


18.) 02 Jun 2018 16:38:31
Not good enough. We haven't had a decent keeper since Reina and it has cost us. Seeing as we're able to offer champions league next season and having reached the final this year, it makes us a more attractive proposition. As such, we should be going all out for someone that is top class. Butland isn't IMO.


19.) 02 Jun 2018 16:42:16
This will be our best signing of the summer by far. I am well excited. Let's hope it happens quick.


20.) 02 Jun 2018 16:47:19
Butland is just an Englishmans karius. Could be worse thought. Could be going for Hart. It's shame we are scrimping on the most important position. But I've seen teams with crap keepers win trophies.


21.) 02 Jun 2018 16:52:59
Here we go again, pushing players out before they’ve even signed. Where have we seen this before? Ox, Salah, mane, VVD, Robertson. All have been tarnished with the ‘ ‘not good enough, never will be’ brush.

Wouldn’t be my pick but I’m not a scout or a top class manager. Butland hasn’t been the same keeper since he came back from injury though he was one of the best in the league a couple of years ago, he’s not short on ability, just needs to get back to his best form.


22.) 02 Jun 2018 16:55:57
Who needs a decent keeper when we will be scoring 5 plus goals every game.


23.) 02 Jun 2018 17:05:39
Farmerfc1515, if that’s the case. Save £40m and play rush goalies instead.


24.) 02 Jun 2018 17:54:16
Rush Goalie!
Haha hahaha
Take me back down memory lane 😂😂😂😂😁😁.


25.) 02 Jun 2018 18:09:34
Haha. Why not! Who needs goalposts as well, just use some bloody jumpers.


26.) 02 Jun 2018 18:09:37
Rush goalies one of the greatest things ever. Fact!


27.) 02 Jun 2018 18:45:32
Ice hockey teams have the option of taking the keeper off to bring on another player. Be fun thing in footy.


28.) 02 Jun 2018 18:47:50
“Robertson is sh*t and will never be good enough”

“Oxlade Chamberlain is sh*t and will never be good enough”

Round and round we go. Trust in the manager? 🤷🏻‍♂️🔴.


29.) 02 Jun 2018 19:02:53
Don't judge butland on last season. Came back from a serious injury.

Imo he has potential. would prefer a of the shelf but not devastated if it's him.


30.) 02 Jun 2018 20:29:27
Absolute madness to spend 80m on a keeper. Everybody goes on about Allison yet we stuck 7 past him. Oblak isn't leaving Madrid. If we do get Butland so be it. Klopp doesn't buy to many duds.

{Ed0333's Note - I totally agree mate. Listen I’m no goalkeeping expert but Becker didn’t look anything like the beast the world keeps telling me about against us. I know he’s highly thought of on here by Ed’s and reds and he maybe be outrageously good but to spunk a world record fee on him would be in my opinion risky. Far better to have 2 decent keepers vying for number 1 and spending the money on Fekir, Dembele etc.


31.) 02 Jun 2018 20:50:42
Typical keyboard warriors on here. Butland, who has yet to make a mistake for Liverpool yet, getting slated in favour of a keeper who has made more mistakes than he’s made saves.

Butland is light years better than Karius and I can’t understand everyone saying he will be no improvement. If we picked up a keeper from the Conference he would be an improvement on Karius.

{Ed0333's Note - good evening Mr Butland didn’t know you frequented the site.


32.) 02 Jun 2018 23:15:13
Redmersey, Butland is a bang average keeper (at best) who is lower table fodder. Fact is that a top class keeper like DeGea wins Man United 15 points a season and that’s what we should be aiming for. Butland has cost Stoke more than that this season with a combination of throwing the ball into his own net, dropping crosses, letting in easy shots (particularly at the near post) and lacking concentration at vital moments as well as the fact that he’s as nimble as a Tiger 2 Tank. So when you say that he hasn’t made mistakes, you could not be any further from the facts. He’s made loads of them. Typical of pretty much every English keeper around. He’s turning into Joe Hart at an alarming rate. So he’s not a significant upgrade on Karius and every mistake that Karius has been pilloried for, Butland has done. Except we’ll pay £40m for the privilege of seeing an Englishman doing it instead.


33.) 02 Jun 2018 23:05:00
I’m not a fan of butland myself as I would be worried about any of the relegated keepers. But we have to ask, behind that defence that went down, would any keeper have looked good?


34.) 03 Jun 2018 08:59:52
Frankly you have been up and down this site slating butland for a couple of weeks now, has he done something in particular to you. 😂

He is a good keeper that just needs to recover his form and confidence. He can be a much better keeper than karius, just needs to prove it. In fact karius maybe needs the close competition to improve himself. Im not opposed to this at all.


35.) 03 Jun 2018 09:56:46
My mate's a avid Stoke fan and recons Butland was a big contributer to their relegation.

For my twopenny worth either upgrade or stick, Butland at best is a slight upgrade and certainly not worth throwing a fair percentage of the budget at.

Becker on the other hand plays the style Klopp wants is young and highly rated by more informed people than us, I can't remember the goals he shipped against us but none were like last weeks.


36.) 03 Jun 2018 10:56:18
Don’t look at next club betting markets, they are so volotile and normally limited to low amounts, it wouldn’t take much to send odds tumbling.


 

 

 

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18 Nov 2020 08:45:46
Anyone know if Thiago is mates with Cavani? Have a look at his tackle on Richarlison from last night in Brazil vs Uruguay 😬.


1.) 18 Nov 2020 18:19:17
That was a bad one, MKS. Hope Richarlison is okay.


 

 

16 Nov 2020 09:40:34
I hope Henderson does the sensible thing and retires from International football after the Euros. Milner did at a similar age and he's stayed at the top of his game into his mid-30's as a result.

Hendo gets no respect in the England set up anyway. Best captain in world football isn't even captain of his country. Walk away Hendo. Scouse not English.


1.) 16 Nov 2020 10:42:31
You know what mate I couldn't agree more. Playing for your country these days isn't the big deal it used to be.


2.) 16 Nov 2020 10:46:43
MKS, I wouldn't mind that at all, bro. Vardy did it and look at what he is doing now. Same with Milner who by doing so, has extended his career another 5 years and counting. He should do so esp. since Southgate does not look like he gives two flips about players' safety with the way he bungled the whole JG situation, saying he was in the red yet did nothing to protect him.


3.) 16 Nov 2020 10:51:28
The problem is that playing for your country should be an honour but in England case it seems not to be, you should never retire from international duty, it should be a privilege and honour to represent your country whenever your country needs you.

But as we know the England setup is pathetic and has been for a long time, they even did not employ Clough because he spoke the truth and its not improved since. Bunch of amateurs who could not arrange a P! ss up in a pub! I actually applied to be England manager after Taylor . unfortunately with living in many countries the letter from the FA, though sympathetic, was lost.


4.) 16 Nov 2020 11:06:36
It doesn't help when they try and squeeze three international games in the two weeks, is it not normally 2?

As for England it should be the pinnacle but I just have no interest in friendlies (that they shouldn't be playing right now imo) and the nations league which is equally pointless. But playing for your country means your among the best players for your nation. England's problem is we don't have England's best mangager/ coach but a yes man who doesn't have the best tactical knowledge.

I know it would never happen but I would shorten the season and play internationals in a period at the end of the season. It doesn't break up the domestic season and I think more people would be interested.


5.) 16 Nov 2020 13:48:14
Other players see playing for their countries as an ho nor and a dream. England players seem to see playing for England as an unnecessary obstacle in their way, IMO.


6.) 16 Nov 2020 14:32:58
I used to love watching and supporting England but I have totally lost all interest now which is sad. I would sooner watch Midsummer Murders as it has a good Director/ Leader, has a plot in the storyline and has more attacks in it.


7.) 16 Nov 2020 16:05:52
I watched the England game last night in Dublin and the analysis on Henderson was embarrassing. Saying how he shouldn't get in the team as Declan Rice is the better player. They were also insistent that he is a DM, despite not playing that role at LFC for some time. It was Niall Quinn, but still really irritated me at the lack of respect he gets.


8.) 16 Nov 2020 17:03:26
How would you know Salah? How many times have you played for your country?


9.) 16 Nov 2020 17:19:39
Niall Quinn is a real oul know-it-all in his analysis. So is Ray Houghton for that matter. Both forever saying what the player should have done, in split second scenarios, as if they themselves were world-beaters every game when they played!


10.) 16 Nov 2020 18:45:53
I agree with you both, MK and Salah, but I'm assuming that neither of you have played at international level, I know I haven't! None of us know the feeling of representing our country to know the pride they must feel. Personally I hate internationals and always have done. As the saying goes, I would rather Liverpool win a corner than England win a game!
And, King Carlos, Clough didn't speak the truth. He condemned Liverpool supporters after Hillsborough, mate.


11.) 16 Nov 2020 19:05:14
You have to remember that playing for your country puts your international profile up. And doesn't it feel like your on the way down once you retire from international football. It should be ghe other way round, you retire when you feel you're on the way down.


12.) 16 Nov 2020 19:07:07
Correct Rome 77. If you don't like international football that's fair enough but please don't think you speak for everyone or even footballers. As Rome says you guys have absolutely no idea how a player feels but I would GUESS if he wasn't happy he wouldn't put himself up for selection.


13.) 16 Nov 2020 19:49:30
The champions league destroyed international football.


14.) 16 Nov 2020 22:25:03
Too many times thunderbird. :)


15.) 16 Nov 2020 23:56:38
No interest whatsoever in international footy. Major tournament or otherwise it just bores me. I’m proud to be British and have served in the RAF but when it comes to footy, if I was a pro player I would declare myself stateless. Out of curiosity Ed’s can a player refuse international call ups in this manner without punishment? I know Matip didn’t play during an AFCON a few years back but I thought that was a precaution?
Can a player retire from internationals whenever they feel like it? Does a countries FA have to accept said retirement and can enforcements be made of a player refuses? If so What if a dual nationality player refuses to pick a country to represent? Would that be more sensitive than say if Alan Shearer just decided he didn’t want to play for England at all back in the day? Hypothetical example obviously.
Sorry for the multiple questions but never actually thought about this before.

{Ed001's Note - players can choose to quit at any time. It is clubs that can't refuse to release players.}


16.) 17 Nov 2020 00:36:42
All the ad-hoc friendlies are a waste of time - I would cancel all the mid season matches, use that time you save to shorten the PL season slightly, then play one meaningful international tournament in the ‘off-season’ every year. You could do the World Cup and Euros on alternate years, and perhaps an equivalent of the six nations in the years in between?

It would increase interest massively if the matches were more meaningful, and also reduce the frustration and injuries if held after the league season.

It would probably also help the quality of the international game if the players got to spend some proper time together, and the PL s performances could also be used to pick the squads for the international calendar every year, making it a real honour to be chosen.


17.) 17 Nov 2020 08:06:03
Thanks Ed. So what was with the whole thing with Matip not being able to play for us during the AFCON he refused to play in? I think I read somewhere that an country’s FA does not need to recognised a players desire to not play international football or retire. I know obviously trying to force a player to play wouldn’t be beneficial to anyone but just interested in the actual rules and why the Matip thing happened if no such rules exist?

{Ed002's Note - The situation with Matip was that he had not formally retired from international football at that point. He needed to write to the applicable FA and state that he would no longer be available for selection.}


18.) 17 Nov 2020 18:12:59
Crystal. Thanks Ed02.


 

 

12 Nov 2020 21:03:26
I personally think we should move for Declan Rice in January. Very good player who can play midfield and centre back. Would be great as short term centre back cover and a long term midfield option with Henderson, Wijnaldum and Milner all in their 30's now. I'm fairly sure he counts as home grown too. Alternatively, if Fabinho will be used at centre back for the season, Rice can play the holding midfield role and free up Henderson to play further forward.

Obviously Klopp will have his own solutions in mind. Just throwing out my opinion.


1.) 12 Nov 2020 22:02:53
Not a bad suggestion at all MKS, if you're looking at it from a long term view. He's only 21 and he can give any team a good number of years of service given his recognized talent. But I doubt it would happen because he's not going to be cheap at all. Home grown players are going with hefty premiums (almost double it seems sometimes) . He'd cost north of 50 million and I don't see the urgency with Fabinho and Thiago in the team. We are not a free spending team and even less now than before because of the CV financial repercussions.


2.) 13 Nov 2020 01:39:43
Yeah, good idea mk. Chelsea were linked in the summer but I guess they spent money elsewhere. I bet he'd be expensive though. Good player. And versatility is something klopp seems to like.

{Ed0666's Note - where’s all this money coming from to sign expensive shiny young toys?


3.) 13 Nov 2020 06:57:59
If Uniteds quarterly accounts are anything to go by, LFC won't have any money for shiny toys for a while! The financially losses due to C.V. for one of the world's biggest commercial clubs puts it into perspective what Ed002 has been saying.


4.) 13 Nov 2020 11:04:42
Personally think were better off praying Matip can stay fit and pair him with Fabinho for the premier league games. Let Hendo do the sìtting in the middle with Gini and Thiago ahead of him. For the rest of the Champions league games i would rest as many of the big hitters as needs a rest as i can't see any way we won't get out of that group now. Its all about the league between now and Jan. Rice in fairness is a very good player, but £50-60m for a player in this climate who would struggle to play in a few months is just not going to happen.


5.) 13 Nov 2020 13:29:23
MKS and Robbie, are you guys serious? Chelsea wanted him at all costs as a CB and even they would not pay the 75m that WH was asking for so how are we going to afford another shiny new toy when we are penny-pinching due to the C.V.? Also, On the short term? There is no short term signing at 75m or even at 50m esp. if he is not better than the CB's we have out injured, IMO so that is a non starter, IMO.

I also don't think he is good enuff t CB or in midfield to suit the way play cos he plays in a very defensive system and that won't fly here, IMO. Nope, we have solutions in-house and we should use them.


 

 

03 Nov 2020 14:23:59
Regarding the penalty at the weekend, i'm honestly not interested in the was it or wasn't it debate. The simple fact is that 4 players went down easily at the weekend. Kane, Wilson, Ayling and Salah.

Now the Wilson and Salah incidents are both penalties by the rules, but both players exaggerated and feigned pain. It doesn't hurt that much getting kicked on your studs. Masuaku and Gomes probably came off worse. However they mis-timed their challenges and kicked the man.

The Kane penalty is clearly cheating. Kane initiated the contact and then threw himself over. That is absolutely not a penalty in any world. But it was given so whatever.

The Ayling dive was by far the worst of the weekend. Luckily it wasn't given but it was what i'd call an actual dive. That's not going down softly or letting the ref know you were fouled. That is a stone wall dive.

Here is my issue. Wilson, Ayling and Kane are all English. Not one of them has been vilified by the press. In fact, Garth Crooks put Wilson in his team of the weak and described his penalty win as "craftiness" and "astute".

Kane and Ayling were not mentioned or called out at all in the same article and were even available as drop down options for "pick your own team".

Salah on the other hand was singled out twice within the same article with his penalty win described as "cheap nonsene" and a "dive". He was not available as a drop down option despite having an identical impact to Kane (winning and converting a penalty), and his team didn't lose 4-1 like Ayling's Leeds did. In fact, Garth even threw in a statement that Henderson should have a word with Salah!

Oh yeah, get the nice English captain to have a word with the nasty foreigner, yeah? Can we just call the Salah agenda out for what it is? Blatant Xenophobia. Maybe it's subconscious or maybe it's intentional. It's not a Liverpool thing at all so do not go there please. Gerrard went down easily for at least 10 years and never got labelled a serial diver.

This is now so clearly about Salah's heritage (and maybe even his religion) . Frankly, i find it disgusting. If Garth genuinely believes Salah dived then that is fine. But why wouldn't he also call out the 3 English players who were just as guilty if not more so? It's disgusting and yet people will continue to turn a blind eye when it's English players who are being "astute".

{Ed025's Note - i dont think it was because of his heritage MK, more the theatrics of it i think, when someone brushes your foot and you perform a triple salko followed by three twists and finish with a pike people are bound to notice mate..


1.) 03 Nov 2020 14:55:12
I agree MK. I don't like going around calling people this or that but when something like this has happened alongside the other incidents you mentioned, yet Salah is the only one vilified, its hard to ignore.


2.) 03 Nov 2020 14:56:06
To be fair it happens nearly every week, however not all players are talked about as much as Salah. It was a peno but if he had not of made such a meal of the contact the likely hood is it would not of been given. Salah is one of the best players in the word with a very high profile so he will be talked about, its only natural.

I think its taking advantage of the situation, it won us the game but what comes around goes around so I'm sure it will come back to bite us at some point and we will have to hold our hands up and day "alls fair in love and war"

Just my humble opinion of course.

{Ed025's Note - players get a reputation NB if they continually offend, salah was one of the worst for it a while back but seemed to have seen the error of his ways lately, unfortunately that pathetic one last week puts him back on par with the grealish,s and richarlisons of this world mate..


3.) 03 Nov 2020 14:59:58
It is as if Salah is the first and worst player to dive ever. The powers at be clearly do not want it out of the game, it’s happened for the last 20 years and stricter punishments could be imposed if they really wanted.


4.) 03 Nov 2020 15:10:46
But Ed025, is Salah the only player who did it this weekend? Watch Wilson go down for the penalty after Gomes challenge. He throws himself down, rolls around etc. Soon as the decision was given he was straight up to take it. Gomes's was a legit reaction of pain. He hobbled away from the challenge. Wilson was not hurt at all. He was barely touched.

I'm not debating whether its a dive or not in the Salah/ Wilson incidents. That's subjective and will go around in circles. What i'm debating is how influential media figures can be allowed to describe two very similar incidents in totally different ways. Why is the English player praised for winning a crafty penalty whilst the foreigner is called a diver? In the same article by the same author!

Go and read it on BBC website mate. It's shocking. He named Henderson in his team of the week and then used 2 of the 3 paragraphs on Henderson to have a go at Salah. In fact i think he has only included Henderson in the team in order to shoe horn in an attack on Salah.

I just want consistency and transparency from the media. Xenophobia exists in all walks of life but we surely want football to transcend such tribalism.

{Ed025's Note - oh it certainly exists MK and its a blight on society not just football mate, salah being high profile and previously having a reputation (deservedly) makes him an easy target for the gutter press and pathetic punditry from has-been nomarks who are paid to court controversy..


5.) 03 Nov 2020 15:11:40
MK, in addition to the examples you just gave, Grealish blatantly dived to win a pen vs Leeds but the ref did not buy it and VAR confirmed it. Did not even get a booking. Did you hear about it in the media? No. I wonder why? We have players blatantly diving with no contact hence, cheating yet when Salah and Mane go down or embelish a bit after being clearly fouled and kicked people cry foul. That is my beef. The lack of consistency and obvious bias is deafening here.

Whether it is cos of these players’ heritage, I cannot say for sure but what we do know is that there is an English bias in these situations cos the players you mentioned who dived hence cheated (shocking, I know) are all British. Hey, If it walks and quacks like a duck, it definitely not a bald eagle.


6.) 03 Nov 2020 15:43:42
Maddison's was very similar last night aswell.


7.) 03 Nov 2020 15:44:08
Why are we still talking about the Salah pen. Surely we're not finished discussing the VVD and Pickford tackle yet lol. On a serious note though let our rivals constantly talk and moan about it. Teams other than us have plenty of decisions go their way that they are happy to turn a blind eye too. The pen was given and it was scored, we won the game and it doesn't matter how much opposition fans bitch and moan about it the decision or result isn't going to change.

{Ed025's Note - its ironic that you mention the VVD incident JK, we had to delete all the posts pertaining to that incident due to the whining and bitching from liverpool supporters for weeks!, liverpool supporters definitely live in glass houses mate..


8.) 03 Nov 2020 16:27:09
Ah come on now Ed025,i don't usually go in for all the "poor us"lark but where the difference of attitude from pundits to Salah, compared to "ol Harry our Captain"Kane and say the likes of Rashford it does be comical at times where identical incidents will be classed as "clever forward play" for one and "something we just don't want in the game"while they look at the ground as if someone has died for Salah. Sometimes this would be done in the same programme! As for Salahs reputation i would argue Sterling, Kane, Rashford, Werner, Auba, Vardy all go down as easy if not easier than him so basically allour main rivals forwards but not one of them gets vilified like the scruffy beard muslim foreigner.

{Ed025's Note - love it JH, that did make me LOL mate...quality..


9.) 03 Nov 2020 18:35:42
Has anyone else notice how Rashford is holding his head anytime he is tackled knowing play will be stopped. That needs to be nipped at the bud and quickly.


10.) 03 Nov 2020 18:25:35
Forwards seem to get all the stick for going down easy but it annoys me just as much when a defender is under pressure and goes down at the slightest touch. Worst part is the commentators call it clever play by relieving the pressure on his team. I miss the days when a player would jump up with his leg hanging off because he didn’t want the opposition to know he was hurt. Nowadays they roll around like they’ve been hit with a lump hammer. Embarrassing if you ask me.

{Ed025's Note - your right scoot..


11.) 03 Nov 2020 19:34:36
There were two other dives in the spurs game, one by son one by kane, that weren't given as penalties or dives but we're truly embarrassing, and not a word of it in the media.


12.) 03 Nov 2020 19:54:25
Scoot

you bring back memories of Stevie Highway at his best, pop straight up chewing on the gum as if he had just pulled his boots on. When men were real men :)


13.) 03 Nov 2020 20:01:25
I don't think it's English pundits giving a Muslim Egyptian a hard time because of his nationality/ religion. More a case of English players getting the benefit of the doubt. Fine margin between the too but it is a distinction.


14.) 03 Nov 2020 20:21:08
I didn't think I could be less impressed with Crooks (or the BBC generally for that matter. Guy Mowbray being careful last week when talking about Rashford to not to offend the sensibilities of people who want children to go hungry) but he outdid himself with his Team of the Week column this year.

Selected Henderson purely to soapbox about Salah. Pitiful, pitiful journalism.


 

 

20 Oct 2020 19:18:03
I keep seeing the stats banded about regarding how many goals Klopp's Liverpool have conceded with and without Van Dijk.

This is just a prime example of statistical nonsense. If you look at our defence pre-Van Dijk it was far cry from what it is today.

The most used defence by Klopp pre-Van Dijk was Mignolet behind a 4 of Clyne, Matip, Lovren and Milner. Others who played include Karius, Klavan, Sakho, Skrtel and Moreno.

Even in the midfield, we had players like Lucas and Can due to Henderson struggling massively with Plantar Fasciitis in those early Klopp years.

Fast forward to the Van Dijk era, and in almost coincided with the emergence of Trent, Robertson breaking into the team, and Gomez making the position his own after his own injury difficulties. 6 months later we signed Alisson and Fabinho to had greater protection in front of and behind the defence. Henderson found his fitness and started playing 40+ games a season again.

Now we have Thiago in the midfield to help us dominate the ball and in theory do a lot less defending.

I guess my point is, these context-less statistical overviews of Liverpool without Van Dijk are thinly veiled attacks on the rest of the team that we can't cope without him. The reality is that this crop of players have never been asked to so to blame them for the goals conceded by a completely different squad, is just shocking journalism at best.

Please don't buy into this fear mongering. We have elite players all over the park and Van Dijk was just 1 part of a well oiled machine that deserves a lot more respect as a unit.


1.) 20 Oct 2020 20:05:52
Well put MK and good to see you back.


2.) 20 Oct 2020 20:06:02
Posts like this is why it’s so good to have you back, MK Scouser. My sentiments exactly. 😘.


3.) 20 Oct 2020 20:44:15
I agree with a lot of that MK but he is our best player IMO. Even if you don’t agree with that everyone has him in the top 3. We can get past this and I trust Klopp to figure it out. But we will need our other main players to stay fit.


4.) 20 Oct 2020 21:50:17
And it's a team that's been together a while now. A few additions this summer but the boys know each other well. They'll know what they need to do.


5.) 20 Oct 2020 22:03:19
Agreed although, I always liked Lucas in midfeild.


6.) 21 Oct 2020 11:12:27
Spot on, MKS. The these mindless stats they put out, they fail to mention that a good size of these games are Cup games where we lose and concede for the most part and where more importantly, the kids/ reserves play and VVD does not.

The real stat they will not tell you is that LFC have the best defence in the PL SINCE that Wembley Debacle at Spurs in 2017 and has only been enhanced since VVD arrived BUT hey, why present this stat if your goal is to assail VVD and LFC?


7.) 21 Oct 2020 21:54:52
Great post MK.

I do think we will need a slice of luck on injuries/ fitness with the rest of the squad now though! 🤞🏼.


 

 

 

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18 Oct 2020 21:21:40
Everton fans i know feel bad about it. It's the Man United fans laughing because they don't have a lot to smile about nowadays.


 

 

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06 Oct 2020 12:59:54
Thanks Ed002. Wild suggestion/ question incoming. Could we register Shaqiri in the FA Cup and Champions League squad (but not Grujic), and then register Grujic in the Premier League squad (but not Shaqiri)? Purely hypothetical. I was just wondering if we will have a very upset player sat in the u23's if we can't sell/ loan one of them in time.

{Ed002's Note - You can register different players for the CL and for the PL.}


 

 

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19 May 2019 17:34:06
Ed025, Everton would still finish outside the top 6 even in that event 😉.

{Ed025's Note - i would have taken that after our mid season collapse MK, but we are back now mate so watch your backs.. :)


 

 

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19 May 2019 14:58:28
Winning trophies is a habitual thing. The likes of the Super Cup, Community Shield, Club World Cup, Carabao Cup etc might not be major trophies, but they are trophies.

{Ed025's Note - so is the one for the egg and spoon race at our lady of the assumption U9,s MK....and would have the same prestige mate..


 

 

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24 Apr 2019 11:22:44
Yes! It begins! I love a good "my mates brother in law rumour"


 

 

 

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24 Nov 2020 18:43:21
(! ) This post has been flagged as false information.

Milner is contracted until the Summer of 2022. He has suggested he wants to get into coaching at Liverpool after this contract.


 

 

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24 Nov 2020 09:55:04
Go full strength. Win this and we're all but guaranteed to go through as group leaders and literally guaranteed to make the last 16. So we then we have 2 dead rubbers to play our u18's if we really want.

Fabinho probably shouldn't play as he's just back from a Hamstring injury but otherwise play the best XI available. Atalanta will want revenge and they are a good side.

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Milner, Williams, Matip, Robbo
Hendo, Gini
Salah, Firmino, Mane
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18 Nov 2020 22:50:38
He only played another 10 minutes Irish.

When i tore my ankle ligament i played on for a similar amount of time before it became too painful. Hobbled back to the changing room and as soon is i got the boot and ankle guard if it started swelling up until it was the size of a grapefruit and i had to go to hospital as i was unable to walk or drive.

So yeah, you definitely can play on even with far worse ligament injury than Thiago suffered. I was unable to play for 12 months.


 

 

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18 Nov 2020 15:34:34
Knee ligament injury. Have you seen the tackle? He's lucky he isn't out for the season, never mind 4 weeks.


 

 

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18 Nov 2020 13:44:23
Sadly due to money and circumstances i've only been to 4 games.
3-1 friendly win vs Leverkusen
1-0 Europa win vs Besiktas
2-1 League win vs Man City
2-2 league draw vs Sunderland

4 happiest days of my life were the first 3 games i saw and the day my son was born. Nothing beats watching your team win in the flesh.

I'm hoping to get to a few more games in the coming years! I did also watch our youth team batter MK Dons first team in a friendly a few years ago. Wilson and Woodburn were immense that day, as was Kelleher between the sticks.